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On July 11 2022 07:13 darklycid wrote: If you missed it, the Reynor vs showtime series was absolutely amazing the final game especially. Second this. That final game is especially awesome.
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Special back to his toxic and disappointing ways. No surprises there
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On July 11 2022 14:10 sudete wrote: Special back to his toxic and disappointing ways. No surprises there what happened?
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During TSL 9's LatAm Qualifier, SpeCial exhibited poor behavior to his opponent. His unsportsmanlike behavior does not reflect the values expected from participants of an ESL Pro Tour SC2 Competition and Team Liquid tournament. As such, SpeCial received a warning enforced by our LatAm admin covering the qualifiers.
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On July 11 2022 07:13 darklycid wrote: If you missed it, the Reynor vs showtime series was absolutely amazing the final game especially. What stream was it streamed on?
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On July 11 2022 22:11 serendipitous wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2022 07:13 darklycid wrote: If you missed it, the Reynor vs showtime series was absolutely amazing the final game especially. What stream was it streamed on? Zombiegrub covered it here (timestamp: 4:27:28)
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On July 11 2022 21:43 olimoley wrote: During TSL 9's LatAm Qualifier, SpeCial exhibited poor behavior to his opponent. His unsportsmanlike behavior does not reflect the values expected from participants of an ESL Pro Tour SC2 Competition and Team Liquid tournament. As such, SpeCial received a warning enforced by our LatAm admin covering the qualifiers. What are the consequences of the warning? I doubt anyone will be dumb enough to pull something like this again in the main event. Is he still on the watchlist next TSL then? Or can you get away with it once per TSL?
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On July 11 2022 10:27 StasisField wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2022 07:13 darklycid wrote: If you missed it, the Reynor vs showtime series was absolutely amazing the final game especially. Second this. That final game is especially awesome. it was indeed
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Further clarification of rulings issued to SpeCial
The following rules and punishment are taken from the EPT Rulebook, which TSL adheres to.
SpeCial breached rule 3.18.2 Public Behavior during TSL 9's Latin America Qualifier
"All players shall abstain, at all times, from poor, undesirable, or negative behavior towards anybody involved with the competition in any way. All players shall abstain, at all times, from any action or inaction that brings anybody involved with the competition in any way into public disrepute, contempt, scandal or ridicule or reduces the public relations or commercial value of any involved party. This includes derogatory comments aimed at ESL or DreamHack, their partners or products in interviews, statements and/or social media channels."
The following rulings were handed to him:
6.3.1 Code of Conduct: Violation of the Code of Conduct will result in penalty points. In the case of repeat or extreme violations, penalties may include disqualification, or banning from future ESL and DreamHack competitions.
6.3.4 Undesired Public Behavior: Players that behave in ways violating the Public Behavior rule will be penalized with punishments between a warning and disqualification, depending on the severity of the offense.
The warning was handed to Special during the end of the qualifier by the LatAm admin. Three penalty points were issued on July 12th by the head admin (Olimoley). The amount of points were decided with guidance from ESL Admin staff and looking at former cases involving penalty points.
Penalty points as defined in the EPT Rulebook:
Every penalty point that a player acquires during a competition or its qualifiers is penalized with a prize money deduction of 1%. The deduction is calculated out of the grand total of prize money awarded to the player at the end of the last part of the competition in question, including both online and offline won prizes. The deducted prize money will be proportionally added to the winnings of the other players (i.e. no prize money gets lost through penalty points).
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Canada8988 Posts
On July 12 2022 02:48 olimoley wrote:Further clarification of rulings issued to SpeCialThe following rules and punishment are taken from the EPT Rulebook, which TSL adheres to. SpeCial breached rule 3.18.2 Public Behavior during TSL 9's Latin America Qualifier Show nested quote +"All players shall abstain, at all times, from poor, undesirable, or negative behavior towards anybody involved with the competition in any way. All players shall abstain, at all times, from any action or inaction that brings anybody involved with the competition in any way into public disrepute, contempt, scandal or ridicule or reduces the public relations or commercial value of any involved party. This includes derogatory comments aimed at ESL or DreamHack, their partners or products in interviews, statements and/or social media channels." The following rulings were handed to him: Show nested quote +6.3.1 Code of Conduct: Violation of the Code of Conduct will result in penalty points. In the case of repeat or extreme violations, penalties may include disqualification, or banning from future ESL and DreamHack competitions. Show nested quote +6.3.4 Undesired Public Behavior: Players that behave in ways violating the Public Behavior rule will be penalized with punishments between a warning and disqualification, depending on the severity of the offense. The warning was handed to Special during the end of the qualifier by the LatAm admin. Three penalty points were issued on July 12th by the head admin (Olimoley). The amount of points were decided with guidance from ESL Admin staff and looking at former cases involving penalty points. Penalty points as defined in the EPT Rulebook: Show nested quote +Every penalty point that a player acquires during a competition or its qualifiers is penalized with a prize money deduction of 1%. The deduction is calculated out of the grand total of prize money awarded to the player at the end of the last part of the competition in question, including both online and offline won prizes. The deducted prize money will be proportionally added to the winnings of the other players (i.e. no prize money gets lost through penalty points).
Ohh, thanks a lot for the tranparency.
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United States33168 Posts
I understand the decision, but I gotta say from a traditional sports POV 3% does seem like a very substantial penalty for a first time unsportsmanlike conduct infraction. But if that's the precedent ESL has set before, I guess esports is trying to establish a very different norm.
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I appreciate the transparency. But now I'm really curious what Special did/said
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I respect the decision; the admins can run the kind of event they want to run.
But I propose a tournament where 50% of the prize pool is awarded as bonuses based on best in-game trash talk.
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I just dont get it tbh
EON was the first one who typed something, not Special
Special was just responding with "learn to gg mate” and he gets the warn?!
What Special typed wasnt even bad.
They both should get a warn for typing or neither of them.
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On July 13 2022 15:43 661 wrote: I just dont get it tbh
EON was the first one who typed something, not Special
Special was just responding with "learn to gg mate” and he gets the warn?!
What Special typed wasnt even bad.
They both should get a warn for typing or neither of them.
EON is not a part of the tournament as he was eliminated during the qualifiers. Therefore, giving EON a warning or penalty points would not matter since they are not participating in the tournament anymore and have no monetary reward to penalize.
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On July 13 2022 17:10 olimoley wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2022 15:43 661 wrote: I just dont get it tbh
EON was the first one who typed something, not Special
Special was just responding with "learn to gg mate” and he gets the warn?!
What Special typed wasnt even bad.
They both should get a warn for typing or neither of them.
EON is not a part of the tournament as he was eliminated during the qualifiers. Therefore, giving EON a warning or penalty points would not matter since they are not participating in the tournament anymore and have no monetary reward to penalize.
I see, appreciate your answer
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Luolis on the verge of taking a game vs Reynor's P hahaha
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he did it ! What a man ! Even if Reynor seemed to suffer from lag, that's awesome
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Definitive proof for the shitposter > progamer narrative
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Getting to switch races between games is absolute bullshit. People veto maps based on matchups.
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