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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
May 31 2022 18:01 GMT
#81
On June 01 2022 02:49 Charoisaur wrote:
Anyone else sad Disruptors seem to have almost completely replaced high templars from the matchup?
HTs are so much better designed and lead to better interactions

Yeah I love some Templar-based PvT, ever since way back in WoL Parting was showing some stellar macro games with that style.

I wonder why it’s no longer in vogue, have top Ts just got too proficient at splitting at hitting their EMPs or what?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3449 Posts
May 31 2022 18:13 GMT
#82
HM must be so tilted at the end of that game 3, he was like, F it all with those balls.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-31 18:15:24
May 31 2022 18:14 GMT
#83
On June 01 2022 03:01 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2022 02:49 Charoisaur wrote:
Anyone else sad Disruptors seem to have almost completely replaced high templars from the matchup?
HTs are so much better designed and lead to better interactions

Yeah I love some Templar-based PvT, ever since way back in WoL Parting was showing some stellar macro games with that style.

I wonder why it’s no longer in vogue, have top Ts just got too proficient at splitting at hitting their EMPs or what?

Probably a mix of the EMP radius buff/upgrade and Protoss players discovering just how insanely good Disruptors are in the matchup
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
May 31 2022 18:49 GMT
#84
Harstem just nonstop throwing his balls in Heromarine's face :D
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
May 31 2022 18:50 GMT
#85
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HEARTHSTONE!!!!!!
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden799 Posts
May 31 2022 18:52 GMT
#86
Awsome game5

Harstem with great map awareness and disruptercontrol
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
May 31 2022 18:53 GMT
#87
Year of Harstem!

I'm glad HeroMarine and Harstem went the distance after the sweeps earlier today. Great to see the big EU names still being vulnerable here and there.
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3449 Posts
May 31 2022 19:06 GMT
#88
Harstem PvT is grossly underated, the man pushed Maru hard into a late PvT game last year, even beat him in the EU server. About the Disruptor, you need some insane micro to get the surround and to dodge the balls, and massing Libs+Tanks to zone them out effectively.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
May 31 2022 19:31 GMT
#89
On June 01 2022 04:06 tigera6 wrote:
Harstem PvT is grossly underated, the man pushed Maru hard into a late PvT game last year, even beat him in the EU server. About the Disruptor, you need some insane micro to get the surround and to dodge the balls, and massing Libs+Tanks to zone them out effectively.

Tanks suck but besides that you're right
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
May 31 2022 20:42 GMT
#90
Nice for Harstem ! I thought this was going to be another bop so I didn't watch, going to catch up on the series !
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States880 Posts
June 01 2022 01:37 GMT
#91
Harstem's elation at the end of game 5 was the kind of passion you love to see in SC2. Really impressive to see him place top 6 already. And if he can take down HM, who's to say he can't do the same for Clem? They have very similar TvP performance. I think most fans are gonna root for Clem to face off against Serral or Reynor in the UB finals though.
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
TossHeroes
Profile Joined February 2022
281 Posts
June 01 2022 02:11 GMT
#92
On June 01 2022 03:01 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2022 02:49 Charoisaur wrote:
Anyone else sad Disruptors seem to have almost completely replaced high templars from the matchup?
HTs are so much better designed and lead to better interactions

Yeah I love some Templar-based PvT, ever since way back in WoL Parting was showing some stellar macro games with that style.

I wonder why it’s no longer in vogue, have top Ts just got too proficient at splitting at hitting their EMPs or what?


Because blizzard buffed ghosts multiple times ie free cloak upgrade and Emp radius made HT quite useless

Disruptor is a more reliable AOE and zoning
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
June 01 2022 02:53 GMT
#93
Heromarine needed to play like Maru in going defensive later in the game when Harstem had so many disruptors. He was a bit too aggressive, and did not set up defensively well enough (no tanks?).

Well played by Harstem!
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3449 Posts
June 01 2022 05:32 GMT
#94
On June 01 2022 11:53 buzz_bender wrote:
Heromarine needed to play like Maru in going defensive later in the game when Harstem had so many disruptors. He was a bit too aggressive, and did not set up defensively well enough (no tanks?).

Well played by Harstem!

There is not a lot of Terran, or anyone, currently playing like Maru TvP into late game, maybe other than Reynor off-race. Most Terran playing TvP with momentum, using mass Bio army to take good fight and ultimately crushed Protoss army before reaching lategame. Harstem army of pure Stalker/Zealot and Disruptor counter that style very well as long as he can track down all the side army drop from Terran, which he did in this game.
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
June 01 2022 06:59 GMT
#95
On June 01 2022 14:32 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2022 11:53 buzz_bender wrote:
Heromarine needed to play like Maru in going defensive later in the game when Harstem had so many disruptors. He was a bit too aggressive, and did not set up defensively well enough (no tanks?).

Well played by Harstem!

Most Terran playing TvP with momentum, using mass Bio army to take good fight and ultimately crushed Protoss army before reaching lategame. Harstem army of pure Stalker/Zealot and Disruptor counter that style very well as long as he can track down all the side army drop from Terran, which he did in this game.


Oh, I agree, but I'm saying that what Harstem did was a full-blown counter to what Heromarine was doing. He needed to sit back, build tanks/libs for defense, and start building CCs etc. Harstem was catching him everytime he moves out, and Heromarine's drops did not do much at all, constantly dying and losing the whole army. His trades were just not good enough. It didn't help that Harstem had so many disruptors - I think Heromarine needed more tanks/libs against that army.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
June 01 2022 08:32 GMT
#96
On June 01 2022 11:11 TossHeroes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2022 03:01 WombaT wrote:
On June 01 2022 02:49 Charoisaur wrote:
Anyone else sad Disruptors seem to have almost completely replaced high templars from the matchup?
HTs are so much better designed and lead to better interactions

Yeah I love some Templar-based PvT, ever since way back in WoL Parting was showing some stellar macro games with that style.

I wonder why it’s no longer in vogue, have top Ts just got too proficient at splitting at hitting their EMPs or what?


Because blizzard buffed ghosts multiple times ie free cloak upgrade and Emp radius made HT quite useless

Disruptor is a more reliable AOE and zoning

Free Cloak upgrade got reverted. They got free 75 starting energy upgrade though
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1382 Posts
June 01 2022 08:34 GMT
#97
On June 01 2022 02:49 Charoisaur wrote:
Anyone else sad Disruptors seem to have almost completely replaced high templars from the matchup?
HTs are so much better designed and lead to better interactions

It's not great having units that are so feast/famine in the game. They create too much volatility.
puking up frothing vitriolic sarcastic spittle
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1382 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-01 14:43:14
June 01 2022 14:29 GMT
#98
Maxpax putting on a clinic against uThermal thus far.

EDIT:

Such a clinic that he made uThermal rage-quit the final game.

3-0 to the Danish prince.
puking up frothing vitriolic sarcastic spittle
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
June 01 2022 14:43 GMT
#99
Why do terrans always get so salty when losing to Protoss?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3517 Posts
June 01 2022 14:44 GMT
#100
Uthermals mentality vs protoss is so massively bad it makes him lose won games
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