EPTI know we are joking, but imagine how hype it would be to have a 64 player giga-bracket best of 1 tournament with random seeding. Almost everyone that benefit from the curent format is already richer than almost anyone in the history of SC2 anyway, it would shake things up a bit
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
I know we are joking, but imagine how hype it would be to have a 64 player giga-bracket best of 1 tournament with random seeding. Almost everyone that benefit from the curent format is already richer than almost anyone in the history of SC2 anyway, it would shake things up a bit | ||
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
He really earned that win! Surprisingly entertaining week for the regionals | ||
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VladSlymor
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On May 23 2022 04:58 Nakajin wrote: I know we are joking, but imagine how hype it would be to have a 64 player giga-bracket best of 1 tournament with random seeding. Almost everyone that benefit from the curent format is already richer than almost anyone in the history of SC2 anyway, it would shake things up a bit I quite like the stability of those tournaments: we have other shorter/direct elimination tournaments, having the dreamhacks + katowice as the baseline league across the year makes sense to me. Seems similar to what's done in most sports (europe at least) with the stable weekly league on one hand, and then the occasional cups and tournaments. Also, it's not entirely fair to say those upsets don't matter. Anyone of the big 4 not finishing first of its group would significantly mess-up the elimination bracket afterwards and break the seeding for the offline (I actually think last year we never got the big 4 in the end, correct?). | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25771 Posts
On May 23 2022 01:20 Nakajin wrote: It's result like this that make me hate the ESL format. It's a massive upset, yet it will bear almost no impact on the tournament result by itself. It’s really a problem of players rather than the format itself, but yes groups drag and are predictable. Imagine this format applied to the GSL field of 4/5 years ago and it would (I imagine) have been bloody fantastic. A single elim tournament would be more exciting and volatile, but Reynor and especially Serral almost never lose to players an appreciable level below them. You’d likely end up with a more exciting early tournament and a more boring latter stages, with those guys butchering underdogs even more than they usually butcher the other top European players. To just take Clem losing to Shadown, it would be nice if it had more stakes in it, but Clem reliably making it deep has given us some of the most consistently good TvZ rivalries anywhere in the world over the past year or two. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12269 Posts
On May 23 2022 01:20 Nakajin wrote: It's result like this that make me hate the ESL format. It's a massive upset, yet it will bear almost no impact on the tournament result by itself. That isn't really true, it puts a lot of pressure on the people who were competing with Shadown for 3rd/4th place in the group, goblin and Gungfu. Even Vanya's tournament is changed by it. | ||
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warnull
United States280 Posts
I don't understand why Asuna had to attack into spores queens and fungal/microbrial shroud. What's wrong with camping on 20 shield batteries per base and waiting for zerg to attack into you? Neeb plays that style with carriers/tempests and it seems to work well, because as good as queens are, shield battery and cannons are better. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler +(Pilipili overwhelmed MaSa with DTs) | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On May 24 2022 18:15 WombaT wrote: A single elim tournament would be more exciting and volatile, but Reynor and especially Serral almost never lose to players an appreciable level below them. Yeah, after Reynor's loss I decided to look at Serral's Aligulac history. The worst player he's lost to in the last 3 years in a bo3+ is Nightmare. After that, you get into ShoWTimE/Elazer/Lambo/DRG territory, most of which were hotly contested and/or in non-premier events. His stability against players worse than him is incredible. The losses against DRG are actually the most jarring for me, given DRG's ZvZ is notoriously bad and he lost to him twice. There does seem to be at least somewhat of a random aspect to ZvZ where depending on how much you can either make your opponent make safety lings or catch him offguard with more lings and eek out a few more drones, you can just win with overwhelming roach numbers, but it has to be a pretty small effect given upsets are still fairly rare. | ||
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buzz_bender
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On May 25 2022 19:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Yeah, after Reynor's loss I decided to look at Serral's Aligulac history. The worst player he's lost to in the last 3 years in a bo3+ is Nightmare. After that, you get into ShoWTimE/Elazer/Lambo/DRG territory, most of which were hotly contested and/or in non-premier events. His stability against players worse than him is incredible. The losses against DRG are actually the most jarring for me, given DRG's ZvZ is notoriously bad and he lost to him twice. There does seem to be at least somewhat of a random aspect to ZvZ where depending on how much you can either make your opponent make safety lings or catch him offguard with more lings and eek out a few more drones, you can just win with overwhelming roach numbers, but it has to be a pretty small effect given upsets are still fairly rare. I guess you mean Hurricane? Serral has never played against Nightmare. | ||
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MJG
United Kingdom1269 Posts
On May 26 2022 02:28 Xain0n wrote: I guess you mean Hurricane? Serral has never played against Nightmare. It was all just a dream... | ||
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