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swarminfestor
Malaysia2449 Posts
On December 13 2021 02:03 buzz_bender wrote: Serral is so good in macro that he can beat anyone according to Rogue... didn't Maru just beat Serral in a Bo7 in macro games? I think in ZvZ macro games to be specific. | ||
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HeroSandro
530 Posts
On December 13 2021 02:03 buzz_bender wrote: Serral is so good in macro that he can beat anyone according to Rogue... didn't Maru just beat Serral in a Bo7 in macro games? He can beat anyone does not mean that he will always win  | ||
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tigera6
3397 Posts
On December 13 2021 02:02 buzz_bender wrote: It was Rogue's mindgame trick against Serral to make him think that he is going the gold base so Serral would prep against it. But behind it, Rogue was massing speed lings against Serral, which completely blindsided Serral Also, even if the Ling rush got defended, Rogue can still be ahead if he can take down some drone from Serral with the additional mining from the Gold. Truly masterclass strategy. | ||
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buzz_bender
445 Posts
On December 13 2021 02:04 tigera6 wrote: Also, even if the Ling rush got defended, Rogue can still be ahead if he can take down some drone from Serral with the additional mining from the Gold. Truly masterclass strategy. Yups, Rogue is a true mastermind. I really wish more people appreciate this more about Rogue. His resume/trophy collection is ridiculous at the moment. | ||
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TentativePanda
United States800 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33388 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On December 13 2021 02:06 buzz_bender wrote: Yups, Rogue is a true mastermind. I really wish more people appreciate this more about Rogue. His resume/trophy collection is ridiculous at the moment. who doesn't apreciate it? that's what he is famous for | ||
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2449 Posts
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On December 13 2021 02:13 swarminfestor wrote: Kudos to Rogue. He is now the most accomplished resume player, winning all type of premier tournaments. He got all tourneys offered by Sc except just maybe WESG, Homestory Cup and King of Battles. Still waiting for the OSL, MLG, NASL and of course the mightiest of all, WCS EU  | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On December 13 2021 02:15 Durnuu wrote: Still waiting for the OSL, MLG, NASL and of course the mightiest of all, WCS EU They banned him from WCS Eu though. Code S has to be sufficient. | ||
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dysenterymd
1237 Posts
On December 13 2021 02:15 Durnuu wrote: Still waiting for the OSL, MLG, NASL and of course the mightiest of all, WCS EU Zero EPS, overrated player. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6929 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On December 13 2021 02:17 deacon.frost wrote: They banned him from WCS Eu though. Code S has to be sufficient. Also never carried his team in IPL teamleague | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6929 Posts
He is taking it much better than I thought | ||
Poopi
France12883 Posts
On December 13 2021 02:17 deacon.frost wrote: They banned him from WCS Eu though. Code S has to be sufficient. Well if you didn’t win all WCS EU in a single year you can’t be the most dominant player in the entire StarCraft history, didn’t you know that? | ||
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tigera6
3397 Posts
EDIT: Solid tournament, unfortunately the bracket didnt work out the way we wanted and having too many bops at the end. I think the best match we have seen during this weekend was actually Dark vs Maru, and it was a Bo3 of all thing. | ||
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2449 Posts
On December 13 2021 02:22 Harris1st wrote: https://twitter.com/ENCE_Serral/status/1470076514515488772 He is taking it much better than I thought Serral knows he may lose to Rogue in final. Maybe from now on, he should learn some from Lambo tricky playbooks. As far as I understand at least in ZvZ perspective, Lambo is kind of Rogue in Eu region while Serral is pretty much like Dark or Soo in Kor region. Lastly, Reynor is combination Rogue and Dark in Eu region. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
Congrats to Rogue though, he's easily proven to be the most accomplished Zerg of 2021, which just adds to his resume as the best Zerg in Starcraft 2. Good run from Trap, although a typical exit from him in the Ro4 as well. A bit of a sad showing from the Terrans this tournament, but that happens from time to time. Perhaps if a new map pool comes out things will shake up. It seems to me the longer maps stay in the pool the more they'll end up benefitting Zergs since the meta always has Zerg playing a lot of defense and the longer a map stays the more Zergs figure out counters to everything the other races will do. So, new maps. New meta. New year. Let's see what happens in 2022. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On December 13 2021 03:37 Vindicare605 wrote: These results are both unsurprising and surprising to me at the same time as I look down the bracket. A shame I wasn't able to see all of this because of my work schedule. Congrats to Rogue though, he's easily proven to be the most accomplished Zerg of 2021, which just adds to his resume as the best Zerg in Starcraft 2. Good run from Trap, although a typical exit from him in the Ro4 as well. A bit of a sad showing from the Terrans this tournament, but that happens from time to time. Perhaps if a new map pool comes out things will shake up. It seems to me the longer maps stay in the pool the more they'll end up benefitting Zergs since the meta always has Zerg playing a lot of defense and the longer a map stays the more Zergs figure out counters to everything the other races will do. So, new maps. New meta. New year. Let's see what happens in 2022. we just got new maps. I wouldn't expect the mappool to change for at least a year if at all | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25333 Posts
On December 13 2021 02:04 swarminfestor wrote: I think in ZvZ macro games to be specific. There was a period where Serral was basically untouchable in ZvZ macro games, and they all largely went a similar way. Nobody was better at navigating roach wars thru lurker/viper When there’s a pretty stable meta that includes extended midgame battling into frequent lategames Serral is always going to be tough to beat. I’m not sure specifically what caused that meta to shift to something more volatile and back to being full of gambits and early knife fights, but such a scenario definitely suits a player of Rogue’s considerable skillset Grats to Rogue, although a bloody brutal last day after Serral stomped Trap, not the most enjoyable day of Starcraft but overall a great event. | ||
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