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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
December 04 2021 15:16 GMT
#81
Stephano figured out how to spread creep in your own main base in 2012, what happened?
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7326 Posts
December 04 2021 15:17 GMT
#82
Lambo must be absolutely tilting right now
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12132 Posts
December 04 2021 15:18 GMT
#83
On December 05 2021 00:16 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Stephano figured out how to spread creep in your own main base in 2012, what happened?

Why would you do that though?
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12132 Posts
December 04 2021 15:19 GMT
#84
On December 04 2021 23:46 SC-Shield wrote:
6k-7k viewers seems very low for such a tournament. Timezone issues or something else?

I watched Maru vs Cure 3rd game, I'm surprised how Maru came back

Did you just see this PvZ? You wanna look at this shit? Queenwalk vs airtoss is just so ... bad to watch. And PvZ is quite frequent.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-04 15:23:57
December 04 2021 15:22 GMT
#85
On December 05 2021 00:18 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2021 00:16 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Stephano figured out how to spread creep in your own main base in 2012, what happened?

Why would you do that though?


Because the time it takes you to do that is shorter than the time it takes queens to walk from not the main to the main. So if they're going to do that even once it immediately is worth it.

Plus 99% of maps have third bases below the main so if you spread it right the tumor that's in the main eventually starts to spread for your third and beyond
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12132 Posts
December 04 2021 15:25 GMT
#86
On December 05 2021 00:22 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2021 00:18 deacon.frost wrote:
On December 05 2021 00:16 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Stephano figured out how to spread creep in your own main base in 2012, what happened?

Why would you do that though?


Because the time it takes you to do that is shorter than the time it takes queens to walk from not the main to the main. So if they're going to do that even once it immediately is worth it.

Plus 99% of maps have third bases below the main so if you spread it right the tumor that's in the main eventually starts to spread for your third and beyond

Lambo won with the queen walk, he didn't have to do anything besides to not move command the whole army on a loop through the whole map.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55589 Posts
December 04 2021 15:26 GMT
#87
As per usual herO is a mad genius
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
December 04 2021 15:28 GMT
#88
On December 05 2021 00:25 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2021 00:22 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On December 05 2021 00:18 deacon.frost wrote:
On December 05 2021 00:16 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Stephano figured out how to spread creep in your own main base in 2012, what happened?

Why would you do that though?


Because the time it takes you to do that is shorter than the time it takes queens to walk from not the main to the main. So if they're going to do that even once it immediately is worth it.

Plus 99% of maps have third bases below the main so if you spread it right the tumor that's in the main eventually starts to spread for your third and beyond

Lambo won with the queen walk, he didn't have to do anything besides to not move command the whole army on a loop through the whole map.


Sure but you should be connecting your bases far far before that point
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13325 Posts
December 04 2021 15:29 GMT
#89
Big brain player Lambo baffled by the dude that just masses oracle like a chad
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3559 Posts
December 04 2021 15:29 GMT
#90
They never expect the 2017 strats of mass oracle and phoenix adept.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2465 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-04 15:31:08
December 04 2021 15:30 GMT
#91
Kind of weird masssing with oracles, but herO still can win.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55589 Posts
December 04 2021 15:33 GMT
#92
On December 05 2021 00:30 swarminfestor wrote:
Kind of weird masssing with oracles, but herO still can win.

It was just a smart read. Oracles have way better DPS against queen walks than void rays do.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
446 Posts
December 04 2021 15:35 GMT
#93
Are we seeing the birth of a new meta in PvZ with oracles??
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12132 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-04 15:36:46
December 04 2021 15:36 GMT
#94
On December 05 2021 00:35 buzz_bender wrote:
Are we seeing the birth of a new meta in PvZ with oracles??

The next time they will scout Oracles and delay the walk to have more queens. But it will still result in the queen walk most probably, bleh. But I hope to be wrong
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33665 Posts
December 04 2021 15:39 GMT
#95
On December 05 2021 00:35 buzz_bender wrote:
Are we seeing the birth of a new meta in PvZ with oracles??


It's the Circle of Has

It cheeses us all~
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
December 04 2021 15:40 GMT
#96
Super weird seeing the casters surprised and calling an upset almost every time non Maru/Rogie/Dark Korean beats a foreigner.

Considering the only foreigner who can consistently beat Koreans is Serral...
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3559 Posts
December 04 2021 15:41 GMT
#97
I don't think the oracle thing will become meta, zergs just need to scout it and then you invested alot into units that just delay your other stuff and you die vs a later timing.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12132 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-04 15:45:54
December 04 2021 15:44 GMT
#98
On December 05 2021 00:40 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Super weird seeing the casters surprised and calling an upset almost every time non Maru/Rogie/Dark Korean beats a foreigner.

Considering the only foreigner who can consistently beat Koreans is Serral...

To me it seems like casters are simply foreign biased with few Korean exceptions. I can understand the Maxpax v Trap, but Lambo v herO? If herO is in a bad shape it should have been equal, Lambo isn't that good.

Edit> also it appears herO is kinda getting in shape while menacing the ladder. Well, c'est la vie
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3559 Posts
December 04 2021 15:47 GMT
#99
On December 05 2021 00:44 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2021 00:40 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Super weird seeing the casters surprised and calling an upset almost every time non Maru/Rogie/Dark Korean beats a foreigner.

Considering the only foreigner who can consistently beat Koreans is Serral...

To me it seems like casters are simply foreign biased with few Korean exceptions. I can understand the Maxpax v Trap, but Lambo v herO? If herO is in a bad shape it should have been equal, Lambo isn't that good.

Edit> also it appears herO is kinda getting in shape while menacing the ladder. Well, c'est la vie

I mean the casters probably just don't have the biggest insight into the current lvl of koreans returness, esp. herO who didnt do a bigger splash yet and Lambo is pretty good in zvp and has beaten e.g. trap recently so i'd have favored lambo too here.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33665 Posts
December 04 2021 15:48 GMT
#100
On December 05 2021 00:44 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2021 00:40 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Super weird seeing the casters surprised and calling an upset almost every time non Maru/Rogie/Dark Korean beats a foreigner.

Considering the only foreigner who can consistently beat Koreans is Serral...

To me it seems like casters are simply foreign biased with few Korean exceptions. I can understand the Maxpax v Trap, but Lambo v herO? If herO is in a bad shape it should have been equal, Lambo isn't that good.

Edit> also it appears herO is kinda getting in shape while menacing the ladder. Well, c'est la vie


? Lambo's best MU is ZvP and he has high profile wins against top-tier Korean Protoss players. You'd have to be quite optimistic on herO's return to his old level to consider him an outright favorite right now.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
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