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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
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buzz_bender
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Waxangel
United States32484 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12116 Posts
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Moonerz
United States408 Posts
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tigera6
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On December 04 2021 01:19 Moonerz wrote: Wow foreigners really struggling in TSL so far Not sure if I can facepalm strong enough after that statement; they aren't doing great but they aren't "struggling", for sure Clem and Reynor underperformed terribly. Reynor yesterday threw a game he shouldn't have against Dark but at least the series was entertaining, this one against Ragnarok was pretty atrocious. | ||
swarminfestor
Malaysia2305 Posts
On December 04 2021 01:19 Moonerz wrote: Wow foreigners really struggling in TSL so far It can't be. Serral will win, Xain0n believes it! | ||
ZombieGrub
United States680 Posts
On December 04 2021 00:44 deacon.frost wrote: Considering the bias from Rotti during the casting and cheering for Maxpax it's probably more fanboyism than prediction. Rotti did admit that he was a fanboy but I don't think the MaxPax prediction is that crazy. It's easy to look at 4 MaxPax predictions as meaning we viewed it collectively as a sure thing, but it is individual guesses that varied from "just maybe" to "pretty convinced". Zoun looked clueless against MaxPax, Trap admitted being scared of facing MaxPax when we interviewed him, and MaxPax has more experience against Korean Protosses than Trap has experience against MaxPax (although obviously their inexperience against each other is also a factor). Mostly getting it off my chest because I was surprised at how much Rotti also called the casters out for it | ||
Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On December 04 2021 01:26 swarminfestor wrote: It can't be. Serral will win, Xain0n believes it! Such a low effort comment. Serral winning wouldn't make non korean performance look especially better; foreigners are performing worse at this event than at NEXT or the previous tournaments we had in the last weeks but "struggling" seems a little excessive when Spirit 2-0s Cure. | ||
Moonerz
United States408 Posts
On December 04 2021 01:23 Xain0n wrote: Not sure if I can facepalm strong enough after that statement; they aren't doing great but they aren't "struggling", for sure Clem and Reynor underperformed terribly. Reynor yesterday threw a game he shouldn't have against Dark but at least the series was entertaining, this one against Ragnarok was pretty atrocious. 6/8 in the upper bracket are likely to be KR players. Serral/Special is foreigner vs foreigner. Heromarine vs Spirit is as well. I dont see how that isn't struggling. Thats not to say none of the foreigners in the lower bracket can make a run but based on what we've seen so far I think struggling is a fair assessment. Edit 6/8 likely because Rogue probably beats Showtime -- but we'll have to see. | ||
dysenterymd
1051 Posts
On December 04 2021 01:31 Moonerz wrote: 6/8 in the upper bracket are likely to be KR players. Serral/Special is foreigner vs foreigner. Heromarine vs Spirit is as well. I dont see how that isn't struggling. Thats not to say none of the foreigners in the lower bracket can make a run but based on what we've seen so far I think struggling is a fair assessment. Edit 6/8 likely because Rogue probably beats Showtime -- but we'll have to see. I think Elazer and Lambo definitely have potential to make deepish runs, though Elazer needs Zoun to beat Byun. Otherwise yeah, Serral is the only foreigner who looks like he'll do well (Maru losing also gave him a very nice bracket, nothing's certain but he has a clear path to winners final.) | ||
allmotor1
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darklycid
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tigera6
2903 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12116 Posts
On December 04 2021 01:26 ZombieGrub wrote: Rotti did admit that he was a fanboy but I don't think the MaxPax prediction is that crazy. It's easy to look at 4 MaxPax predictions as meaning we viewed it collectively as a sure thing, but it is individual guesses that varied from "just maybe" to "pretty convinced". Zoun looked clueless against MaxPax, Trap admitted being scared of facing MaxPax when we interviewed him, and MaxPax has more experience against Korean Protosses than Trap has experience against MaxPax (although obviously their inexperience against each other is also a factor). Mostly getting it off my chest because I was surprised at how much Rotti also called the casters out for it Well, nothing wrong about fanboying as long as it's not against Maru or herO/Clasic I would expect at least one of you go for Trap. I get why you voted for Maxpax, he's good, reallygood, but no one for Trap? | ||
Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
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darklycid
3132 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12116 Posts
On December 04 2021 01:52 darklycid wrote: Seriously everyone complains about skytoss being easy or w/e but can we actually recognize how fragile ground toss is, like no wonder toss likes to go 2sg where you dont just randomly die to mutas or fake mutas etc. Part of the issue is that yo uhave to hardcounter mutalisk, before HotS regen nonsense you could have defended with blink stalkers and/or stormuuu. | ||
tigera6
2903 Posts
On December 04 2021 01:52 darklycid wrote: Seriously everyone complains about skytoss being easy or w/e but can we actually recognize how fragile ground toss is, like no wonder toss likes to go 2sg where you dont just randomly die to mutas or fake mutas etc. The 1-1 Roach Ravager timing from Zerg has always been fearsome if you dont have enough defense at home. Even if Showtime went for double Stargate, he would have still die to a Queen Walk with Roach/Ravager support. | ||
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