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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10100 Posts
October 24 2021 22:31 GMT
#281
sick production value HAHAHAHAAHA
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
hjpalpha
Profile Joined August 2017
Germany339 Posts
October 24 2021 22:33 GMT
#282
Replays:
LiquipediaSCV ready | SC2-Liquipedia Admin, reviewer and editor | Wax called me a Liquipedia wizard in one of his articles for 2019 WCS Standings
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
October 24 2021 22:41 GMT
#283
Nice to see Clem making it further into the world stage every tournamnet.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
October 24 2021 23:08 GMT
#284
On October 25 2021 07:33 hjpalpha wrote:
Replays: https://twitter.com/hjpalpha/status/1452402387054993408

thanks for another great tourney, lots of fun and some fantastic games (and some fantastic throws ) ! Looking forward to the next one
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States880 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-24 23:19:48
October 24 2021 23:19 GMT
#285
On October 25 2021 07:29 Calliope wrote:
Nerdtears. It took 11 years, and the foreign terran hope emerged. WP Desplanchito.


Yeah really. It's insane how long it took for a non-Korean Terran to reach world-class level. I thought it was never going to happen. Gratz Clem!!
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
highsis
Profile Joined August 2011
259 Posts
October 24 2021 23:23 GMT
#286
Protoss hasn't won a single tier 1 tournament in 4 years in 14 consecutive finals. Now they are even dropping out of low tier tournaments, it's depressing to see.
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3126 Posts
October 25 2021 02:46 GMT
#287
great tournament overall, the series btw serral and clem were particularly excellent. I've been watching since beta, and it's hard to overstate the level of excellence in micro macro and overall play those two show consistently. congrats to clem for closing it out when it really mattered.
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-25 03:08:57
October 25 2021 03:01 GMT
#288
On October 25 2021 06:20 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2021 06:13 stilt wrote:
Something must be really wrong with serral early, how can he be below 10-15 pop at 8 min while having such a good opening ?

Was it normal to play the winner bracket final after the loser bracket one? It's his 12th game in a row.

These guys play dozens of games everyday, i don't think they take such an efficency hit by having to play a couple more games.
The true problem could be the schedule, but at this point they should all be prepared for it. Offline competition is just around the corner and should end these scheduling concerns once and for all.
As for Protoss, give up on it. Its a race meant to abuse ladder with cheeses that are good for one game or to turtle and punish players who can't keep the pressure on. Neither of theses things happen at pro games. Protoss being redesigned into a tournament winning race is what we can hope for SC3, for now it will rightfully stay in the trash where it belongs as a cheese race.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3448 Posts
October 25 2021 04:05 GMT
#289
On October 25 2021 08:23 highsis wrote:
Protoss hasn't won a single tier 1 tournament in 4 years in 14 consecutive finals. Now they are even dropping out of low tier tournaments, it's depressing to see.

Dont worry, Super Tournament is around the corner, we will see another Ro4 full of Toss, that has been the Protoss consolation prize for almost a year already.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3448 Posts
October 25 2021 04:08 GMT
#290
Catch the last series from replay today, gotta say that I dont know why Serral didnt go for Roach in any of his games. Clem got the timing so much better with the Mine/Tanks vs Lingbane/HydraLurker interaction. In the end, Clem Mines and Ghost are too strong for Serral Lingbane/Lurker composition. Wonder if BLord Infestor would be better, or mixing in more Roach opening.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7023 Posts
October 25 2021 09:03 GMT
#291
On October 25 2021 13:08 tigera6 wrote:
Catch the last series from replay today, gotta say that I dont know why Serral didnt go for Roach in any of his games. Clem got the timing so much better with the Mine/Tanks vs Lingbane/HydraLurker interaction. In the end, Clem Mines and Ghost are too strong for Serral Lingbane/Lurker composition. Wonder if BLord Infestor would be better, or mixing in more Roach opening.


If I remember correctly he did go for some Roach builds in the winner bracket vs Clem and still lost 3:2.
Clem was just a tiny bit better today going 6:4 overall. Two weeks ago Serral won 6:2
It's just daily form
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-25 10:02:28
October 25 2021 10:00 GMT
#292
On October 25 2021 08:23 highsis wrote:
Protoss hasn't won a single tier 1 tournament in 4 years in 14 consecutive finals. Now they are even dropping out of low tier tournaments, it's depressing to see.

Protoss is still the highest earning race in 2021 ((Wiki)Winnings/2021), so I would not really worry about them.
Clem was on fire yesterday, well deserved win!
ByuN had a great run and funnily still doesn’t lose to Zest.
WriterMaru
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12379 Posts
October 25 2021 11:20 GMT
#293
On October 25 2021 08:23 highsis wrote:
Protoss hasn't won a single tier 1 tournament in 4 years in 14 consecutive finals. Now they are even dropping out of low tier tournaments, it's depressing to see.


It used to be depressing but at some point it just became helpful, the game doesn't have many years left, I'm happy that I'm no longer as invested into what happens.

There's an occasional good day that you can save. First day of this tournament had Reynor Neeb and Clem Maxpax, that's pretty good.
No will to live, no wish to die
hjpalpha
Profile Joined August 2017
Germany339 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-28 00:40:15
October 28 2021 00:32 GMT
#294
On October 25 2021 08:23 highsis wrote:
Protoss hasn't won a single tier 1 tournament in 4 years in 14 consecutive finals. Now they are even dropping out of low tier tournaments, it's depressing to see.


that is quite wrong, the below list just of tier 1 (aka premier) events that were won by a protoss alone in 2021:
(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2021/22/Masters/Fall/NA
(Wiki)TeamLiquid StarLeague/7
(Wiki)Netease Esports X Tournaments/2021/1
(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2021/22/Masters/Summer/NA
(Wiki)AfreecaTV GSL Super Tournament/2021/2
(Wiki)AfreecaTV GSL Super Tournament/2021/1
(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2020/21/Masters/Last Chance

(thus far in 2021 we have 7 protoss, 7 zerg and 3 terran wins in premier events ... and for 2nd places you get the samesplit (7p, 7z, 3t) too ... protoss is doing very well)
LiquipediaSCV ready | SC2-Liquipedia Admin, reviewer and editor | Wax called me a Liquipedia wizard in one of his articles for 2019 WCS Standings
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
October 28 2021 02:43 GMT
#295
On October 28 2021 09:32 hjpalpha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2021 08:23 highsis wrote:
Protoss hasn't won a single tier 1 tournament in 4 years in 14 consecutive finals. Now they are even dropping out of low tier tournaments, it's depressing to see.


that is quite wrong, the below list just of tier 1 (aka premier) events that were won by a protoss alone in 2021:
(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2021/22/Masters/Fall/NA
(Wiki)TeamLiquid StarLeague/7
(Wiki)Netease Esports X Tournaments/2021/1
(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2021/22/Masters/Summer/NA
(Wiki)AfreecaTV GSL Super Tournament/2021/2
(Wiki)AfreecaTV GSL Super Tournament/2021/1
(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2020/21/Masters/Last Chance

(thus far in 2021 we have 7 protoss, 7 zerg and 3 terran wins in premier events ... and for 2nd places you get the samesplit (7p, 7z, 3t) too ... protoss is doing very well)


I think most people on TL consider Tier 1 events to only include Katowice/Blizzcon/Code S and maybe WESG. At least that's what I think of as Tier 1. They are a clear step more difficult and pay significantly more than any other tournaments. Liquipedia's premier and major distinctions are far too broad.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7023 Posts
October 28 2021 09:51 GMT
#296
Great tournament! Great organisation! Thank you TakeTV and everyone who helped making this happen! Thank you <3
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-28 12:30:12
October 28 2021 12:29 GMT
#297
On October 28 2021 09:32 hjpalpha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2021 08:23 highsis wrote:
Protoss hasn't won a single tier 1 tournament in 4 years in 14 consecutive finals. Now they are even dropping out of low tier tournaments, it's depressing to see.


that is quite wrong, the below list just of tier 1 (aka premier) events that were won by a protoss alone in 2021:
(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2021/22/Masters/Fall/NA
(Wiki)TeamLiquid StarLeague/7
(Wiki)Netease Esports X Tournaments/2021/1
(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2021/22/Masters/Summer/NA
(Wiki)AfreecaTV GSL Super Tournament/2021/2
(Wiki)AfreecaTV GSL Super Tournament/2021/1
(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2020/21/Masters/Last Chance

(thus far in 2021 we have 7 protoss, 7 zerg and 3 terran wins in premier events ... and for 2nd places you get the samesplit (7p, 7z, 3t) too ... protoss is doing very well)

I don't know a single person outside liquipedia staff that takes the liquipedia tiers seriously.
I mean, WCS NA as premier, really?
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3517 Posts
October 28 2021 13:39 GMT
#298
On October 28 2021 21:29 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2021 09:32 hjpalpha wrote:
On October 25 2021 08:23 highsis wrote:
Protoss hasn't won a single tier 1 tournament in 4 years in 14 consecutive finals. Now they are even dropping out of low tier tournaments, it's depressing to see.


that is quite wrong, the below list just of tier 1 (aka premier) events that were won by a protoss alone in 2021:
(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2021/22/Masters/Fall/NA
(Wiki)TeamLiquid StarLeague/7
(Wiki)Netease Esports X Tournaments/2021/1
(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2021/22/Masters/Summer/NA
(Wiki)AfreecaTV GSL Super Tournament/2021/2
(Wiki)AfreecaTV GSL Super Tournament/2021/1
(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2020/21/Masters/Last Chance

(thus far in 2021 we have 7 protoss, 7 zerg and 3 terran wins in premier events ... and for 2nd places you get the samesplit (7p, 7z, 3t) too ... protoss is doing very well)

I don't know a single person outside liquipedia staff that takes the liquipedia tiers seriously.
I mean, WCS NA as premier, really?

I can understand that you can argue for protoss doing good with the 5 wins of trap and esp their super tournament performance but the NA in there is just shameless agenda pushing.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7023 Posts
October 28 2021 13:59 GMT
#299
On October 28 2021 21:29 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2021 09:32 hjpalpha wrote:
On October 25 2021 08:23 highsis wrote:
Protoss hasn't won a single tier 1 tournament in 4 years in 14 consecutive finals. Now they are even dropping out of low tier tournaments, it's depressing to see.


that is quite wrong, the below list just of tier 1 (aka premier) events that were won by a protoss alone in 2021:
(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2021/22/Masters/Fall/NA
(Wiki)TeamLiquid StarLeague/7
(Wiki)Netease Esports X Tournaments/2021/1
(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2021/22/Masters/Summer/NA
(Wiki)AfreecaTV GSL Super Tournament/2021/2
(Wiki)AfreecaTV GSL Super Tournament/2021/1
(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2020/21/Masters/Last Chance

(thus far in 2021 we have 7 protoss, 7 zerg and 3 terran wins in premier events ... and for 2nd places you get the samesplit (7p, 7z, 3t) too ... protoss is doing very well)

I don't know a single person outside liquipedia staff that takes the liquipedia tiers seriously.
I mean, WCS NA as premier, really?


Maybe don't bite the hand that feeds?
Feel free to do your own opinionated tier list if you want so random internet people can shit all over it
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
SpecKROELLchen
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany151 Posts
October 28 2021 14:00 GMT
#300
On October 28 2021 22:39 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2021 21:29 Durnuu wrote:
On October 28 2021 09:32 hjpalpha wrote:
On October 25 2021 08:23 highsis wrote:
Protoss hasn't won a single tier 1 tournament in 4 years in 14 consecutive finals. Now they are even dropping out of low tier tournaments, it's depressing to see.


that is quite wrong, the below list just of tier 1 (aka premier) events that were won by a protoss alone in 2021:
(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2021/22/Masters/Fall/NA
(Wiki)TeamLiquid StarLeague/7
(Wiki)Netease Esports X Tournaments/2021/1
(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2021/22/Masters/Summer/NA
(Wiki)AfreecaTV GSL Super Tournament/2021/2
(Wiki)AfreecaTV GSL Super Tournament/2021/1
(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2020/21/Masters/Last Chance

(thus far in 2021 we have 7 protoss, 7 zerg and 3 terran wins in premier events ... and for 2nd places you get the samesplit (7p, 7z, 3t) too ... protoss is doing very well)

I don't know a single person outside liquipedia staff that takes the liquipedia tiers seriously.
I mean, WCS NA as premier, really?

I can understand that you can argue for protoss doing good with the 5 wins of trap and esp their super tournament performance but the NA in there is just shameless agenda pushing.


You two just look what he is quoting, the protoss fanboy clearly states "not a single premier in 4 years", "not even low tier tournaments" and then the answer is a list with a mixture of tournaments this year, which falsifies the argument and you have no other idea than to jump in this one Na bullet point?
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