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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On July 05 2021 01:19 parksonsc wrote: Dream's TvZ is his best MU, yes. That said, him losing to DRG doesn't qualify his TvZ as "really good" though. There is no shame whatsoever in losing to DRG. | ||
Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On July 05 2021 01:10 Pandain wrote: Reynor called it a blind counter but honestly rogue looked in a MUCH better position shortly after. Because he has speed and controls map and takes WAY earlier third (and gold to boot) Ya may you should take your own gold instead of the natural as Reynor. Dunno, it felt like he went away to kill Rogue gold but Rogue just took his natural instead and it was to late for Reynor to apply any pressure after that and Rogue natural was only slightly faster with worst tech and less drone and no real way to prevent Rogue from retaking his gold... Maybe if he had follwed it up with a bane bust Rogue was dead because if he retook the gold? Idk, where's Bly when you need him? | ||
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
also I guess this makes group B was the group of Death | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On July 05 2021 01:20 Nakajin wrote: Ya may you should take your own gold instead of the natural as Reynor. Dunno, it felt like he went away to kill Rogue gold but Rogue just took his natural instead and it was to late for Reynor to apply any pressure after that and Rogue natural was only slightly faster with worst tech and less drone and no real way to prevent Rogue from retaking his gold... Maybe if he had follwed it up with a bane bust Rogue was dead because if he retook the gold? Idk, where's Bly when you need him? No way you can take the gold though considering how slow Reynor's speed was. Reynor barely held with queen walls at his own natural, no way he can hold both gold and natural. I think Reynor was just significantly behind going into the early mid-game but managed to (1) kill a bunch of Rogue's lings with his bane; (2) killed a bunch of drones at Rogue's gold, and therefore (3) was able to stop Rogue's sort-of allin push and win the game. | ||
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On July 05 2021 01:23 AzAlexZ wrote: Maru 4-2 is my prediction also I guess this makes group B was the group of Death Didn't need a Maru vs Reynor finals to know that  | ||
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
On July 05 2021 01:28 Durnuu wrote: Didn't need a Maru vs Reynor finals to know that true but it's always nice that the finalists reinforce this claim | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On July 05 2021 01:26 Pandain wrote: No way you can take the gold though considering how slow Reynor's speed was. Reynor barely held with queen walls at his own natural, no way he can hold both gold and natural. I think Reynor was just significantly behind going into the early mid-game but managed to (1) kill a bunch of Rogue's lings with his bane; (2) killed a bunch of drones at Rogue's gold, and therefore (3) was able to stop Rogue's sort-of allin push and win the game. Hum yeah good point, IDK sacrificing a gold vs a twelve pool being good just dosen't seems right to me, but maybe it is. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On July 05 2021 01:28 Durnuu wrote: Didn't need a Maru vs Reynor finals to know that To be honest, Zest might have been the third best player here. Because he legit was playing very well against both Maru and Reynor (unlike Trap who sort of collapsed). Shame he had to get knocked out. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On July 05 2021 01:33 Pandain wrote: I feel like ZG has been casting almost every game. Is that just me? She's the best caster they have there IMO. So I say let her. | ||
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2449 Posts
On July 05 2021 01:31 Pandain wrote: To be honest, Zest might have been the third best player here. Because he legit was playing very well against both Maru and Reynor (unlike Trap who sort of collapsed). Shame he had to get knocked out. Probe just didn't suit the Group of Death dilemma. | ||
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
On July 05 2021 01:33 Vindicare605 wrote: She's the best caster they have there IMO. So I say let her. alongside her expertise and familiarity with the Terran race helps her dissect what Maru may do | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On July 05 2021 01:31 Pandain wrote: To be honest, Zest might have been the third best player here. Because he legit was playing very well against both Maru and Reynor (unlike Trap who sort of collapsed). Shame he had to get knocked out. This happens every tournament that involves seeds from the weaker regions. We end up with insanely lopsided groups. Zest just happened to be the victim of that this year. I'd say Zest would be a good favorite in any of the other groups other than the one he was in. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
On July 05 2021 01:40 Vindicare605 wrote: It makes my little Terran heart so happy to see Hellion Banshee continue to get such good value in this match up. IMMvp's legacy lives on. isn't Maru the original 'successor' to MarineKing and Mvp | ||
Waxangel
United States33422 Posts
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sneakyfox
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youaremysin
119 Posts
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
On July 05 2021 01:43 youaremysin wrote: Yeah as expected Maru is outclassed here. nope | ||
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