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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10112 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-04 15:58:34
July 04 2021 15:58 GMT
#221
On July 05 2021 00:57 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2021 00:56 parksonsc wrote:
what did Rogue say? "shiba"?

wait what? When?

when reynors bane killed like 15 lings in the gold
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 04 2021 15:58 GMT
#222
On July 05 2021 00:57 tigera6 wrote:
Bane hit was the main difference, not sure why Rogue keep hitting the morphing Bane knowing his chance to take it down on time is slim.


People going to focus on the bane that hit the lings, but if Reynor didn't get two banes into the gold and take down ~8 drones, Rogue would have maintained a heavy economy lead the whole game and won regardless.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
July 04 2021 16:01 GMT
#223
So after that, does someone know if gold base vs 12 pool if good for the defender?
You sacrifice the hatch but you get a natural not quite later than the other guy with more drone, so maybe it's ok?
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
July 04 2021 16:03 GMT
#224
On July 05 2021 00:47 swarminfestor wrote:
Ping disadvantage doesn't seem a problem here. Maybe he just underestimated Reynor, then he didn't micro drones well in the 2nd game before.


Or it could be that Rogue isn't particularly good in ZvZ and Reynor absolutely is.

It's Rogue's weakest match up. Has been for some time. Reynor's weakest appears to be vs Protoss although he's better in that match up than Rogue is vs Zerg imo.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
July 04 2021 16:04 GMT
#225
On July 05 2021 00:57 sneakyfox wrote:
Rogue just protecting his Bo7 stat


This tournament is online so that wouldn't have mattered anyway. Rogue is undefeated in OFFLINE best of 7's.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
July 04 2021 16:06 GMT
#226
On July 05 2021 01:03 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2021 00:47 swarminfestor wrote:
Ping disadvantage doesn't seem a problem here. Maybe he just underestimated Reynor, then he didn't micro drones well in the 2nd game before.


Or it could be that Rogue isn't particularly good in ZvZ and Reynor absolutely is.

It's Rogue's weakest match up. Has been for some time. Reynor's weakest appears to be vs Protoss although he's better in that match up than Rogue is vs Zerg imo.


How many of his perfect BO7 record was against Zerg? Can't recall any.
gg no re thx
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 04 2021 16:07 GMT
#227
On July 05 2021 01:06 RKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2021 01:03 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 05 2021 00:47 swarminfestor wrote:
Ping disadvantage doesn't seem a problem here. Maybe he just underestimated Reynor, then he didn't micro drones well in the 2nd game before.


Or it could be that Rogue isn't particularly good in ZvZ and Reynor absolutely is.

It's Rogue's weakest match up. Has been for some time. Reynor's weakest appears to be vs Protoss although he's better in that match up than Rogue is vs Zerg imo.


How many of his perfect BO7 record was against Zerg? Can't recall any.


Two as far as I remember: 4-2 against soO and 4-0 against DRG.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
July 04 2021 16:07 GMT
#228
On July 05 2021 01:06 RKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2021 01:03 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 05 2021 00:47 swarminfestor wrote:
Ping disadvantage doesn't seem a problem here. Maybe he just underestimated Reynor, then he didn't micro drones well in the 2nd game before.


Or it could be that Rogue isn't particularly good in ZvZ and Reynor absolutely is.

It's Rogue's weakest match up. Has been for some time. Reynor's weakest appears to be vs Protoss although he's better in that match up than Rogue is vs Zerg imo.


How many of his perfect BO7 record was against Zerg? Can't recall any.


soO at Blizzcon
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3483 Posts
July 04 2021 16:08 GMT
#229
On July 05 2021 01:06 RKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2021 01:03 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 05 2021 00:47 swarminfestor wrote:
Ping disadvantage doesn't seem a problem here. Maybe he just underestimated Reynor, then he didn't micro drones well in the 2nd game before.


Or it could be that Rogue isn't particularly good in ZvZ and Reynor absolutely is.

It's Rogue's weakest match up. Has been for some time. Reynor's weakest appears to be vs Protoss although he's better in that match up than Rogue is vs Zerg imo.


How many of his perfect BO7 record was against Zerg? Can't recall any.

2017 Blizzcon against Soo, but thats the only one, I believe.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2450 Posts
July 04 2021 16:09 GMT
#230
On July 05 2021 01:03 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2021 00:47 swarminfestor wrote:
Ping disadvantage doesn't seem a problem here. Maybe he just underestimated Reynor, then he didn't micro drones well in the 2nd game before.


Or it could be that Rogue isn't particularly good in ZvZ and Reynor absolutely is.

It's Rogue's weakest match up. Has been for some time. Reynor's weakest appears to be vs Protoss although he's better in that match up than Rogue is vs Zerg imo.


I thought Reynor's weakest matchup is ZvT currently.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
July 04 2021 16:09 GMT
#231
On July 05 2021 01:07 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2021 01:06 RKC wrote:
On July 05 2021 01:03 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 05 2021 00:47 swarminfestor wrote:
Ping disadvantage doesn't seem a problem here. Maybe he just underestimated Reynor, then he didn't micro drones well in the 2nd game before.


Or it could be that Rogue isn't particularly good in ZvZ and Reynor absolutely is.

It's Rogue's weakest match up. Has been for some time. Reynor's weakest appears to be vs Protoss although he's better in that match up than Rogue is vs Zerg imo.


How many of his perfect BO7 record was against Zerg? Can't recall any.


soO at Blizzcon


Championship wins against Kongs don't count

But seriously, sad for soO
gg no re thx
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 04 2021 16:10 GMT
#232
On July 05 2021 01:01 Nakajin wrote:
So after that, does someone know if gold base vs 12 pool if good for the defender?
You sacrifice the hatch but you get a natural not quite later than the other guy with more drone, so maybe it's ok?

Reynor called it a blind counter but honestly rogue looked in a MUCH better position shortly after. Because he has speed and controls map and takes WAY earlier third (and gold to boot)
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
July 04 2021 16:10 GMT
#233
On July 05 2021 01:09 swarminfestor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2021 01:03 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 05 2021 00:47 swarminfestor wrote:
Ping disadvantage doesn't seem a problem here. Maybe he just underestimated Reynor, then he didn't micro drones well in the 2nd game before.


Or it could be that Rogue isn't particularly good in ZvZ and Reynor absolutely is.

It's Rogue's weakest match up. Has been for some time. Reynor's weakest appears to be vs Protoss although he's better in that match up than Rogue is vs Zerg imo.


I thought Reynor's weakest matchup is ZvT currently.


No only vs Clem who Reynor plays scared against for reasons I still do not understand.

He's really strong against anyone else.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-04 16:16:04
July 04 2021 16:10 GMT
#234
On July 05 2021 00:58 Topin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2021 00:57 AzAlexZ wrote:
On July 05 2021 00:56 parksonsc wrote:
what did Rogue say? "shiba"?

wait what? When?

when reynors bane killed like 15 lings in the gold


Besides, the upgraded advantage gives Reynor a mile ahead even with lesser supply.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
youaremysin
Profile Joined August 2015
119 Posts
July 04 2021 16:12 GMT
#235
Hope to see a good final but I think Reynor will 4-1, 4-2 if we are lucky
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-04 16:15:16
July 04 2021 16:14 GMT
#236
On July 05 2021 01:03 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2021 00:47 swarminfestor wrote:
Ping disadvantage doesn't seem a problem here. Maybe he just underestimated Reynor, then he didn't micro drones well in the 2nd game before.


Or it could be that Rogue isn't particularly good in ZvZ and Reynor absolutely is.

It's Rogue's weakest match up. Has been for some time. Reynor's weakest appears to be vs Protoss although he's better in that match up than Rogue is vs Zerg imo.


No idea what's the score is in aligulac but in his final lost against Trap, Reynor was playing extremely the first 5 maps, and what a throw on jaga, I feel like he can be a bit more shaky in zvt, Clem has his number and Maru should be the slight favorite imo
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2450 Posts
July 04 2021 16:14 GMT
#237
On July 05 2021 01:10 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2021 01:09 swarminfestor wrote:
On July 05 2021 01:03 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 05 2021 00:47 swarminfestor wrote:
Ping disadvantage doesn't seem a problem here. Maybe he just underestimated Reynor, then he didn't micro drones well in the 2nd game before.


Or it could be that Rogue isn't particularly good in ZvZ and Reynor absolutely is.

It's Rogue's weakest match up. Has been for some time. Reynor's weakest appears to be vs Protoss although he's better in that match up than Rogue is vs Zerg imo.


I thought Reynor's weakest matchup is ZvT currently.


No only vs Clem who Reynor plays scared against for reasons I still do not understand.

He's really strong against anyone else.


His games against Dream yesterday were bit sloppy in my opinion especially Game 1 where his armies got bludgeoned uncharacteristically. That weakness can hurt Reynor in final match with Maru if Reynor didn't figure out yet.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
July 04 2021 16:17 GMT
#238
On July 05 2021 01:14 swarminfestor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2021 01:10 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 05 2021 01:09 swarminfestor wrote:
On July 05 2021 01:03 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 05 2021 00:47 swarminfestor wrote:
Ping disadvantage doesn't seem a problem here. Maybe he just underestimated Reynor, then he didn't micro drones well in the 2nd game before.


Or it could be that Rogue isn't particularly good in ZvZ and Reynor absolutely is.

It's Rogue's weakest match up. Has been for some time. Reynor's weakest appears to be vs Protoss although he's better in that match up than Rogue is vs Zerg imo.


I thought Reynor's weakest matchup is ZvT currently.


No only vs Clem who Reynor plays scared against for reasons I still do not understand.

He's really strong against anyone else.


His games against Dream yesterday were bit sloppy in my opinion especially Game 1 where his armies got bludgeoned uncharacteristically. That weakness can hurt Reynor in final match with Maru if Reynor didn't figure out yet.


Afraid I didn't see those games. Dream is really good in TvZ. That's HIS strongest match up from what I've seen of him, although I haven't seen nearly as much of Dream as I have of other Terrans.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 04 2021 16:18 GMT
#239
I think this could be a really good series but Reynor is the one who is going to have to really show up. Otherwise, I could see this being a 4-2 or 4-1 for Maru.
parksonsc
Profile Joined May 2019
175 Posts
July 04 2021 16:19 GMT
#240
On July 05 2021 01:17 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2021 01:14 swarminfestor wrote:
On July 05 2021 01:10 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 05 2021 01:09 swarminfestor wrote:
On July 05 2021 01:03 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 05 2021 00:47 swarminfestor wrote:
Ping disadvantage doesn't seem a problem here. Maybe he just underestimated Reynor, then he didn't micro drones well in the 2nd game before.


Or it could be that Rogue isn't particularly good in ZvZ and Reynor absolutely is.

It's Rogue's weakest match up. Has been for some time. Reynor's weakest appears to be vs Protoss although he's better in that match up than Rogue is vs Zerg imo.


I thought Reynor's weakest matchup is ZvT currently.


No only vs Clem who Reynor plays scared against for reasons I still do not understand.

He's really strong against anyone else.


His games against Dream yesterday were bit sloppy in my opinion especially Game 1 where his armies got bludgeoned uncharacteristically. That weakness can hurt Reynor in final match with Maru if Reynor didn't figure out yet.


Afraid I didn't see those games. Dream is really good in TvZ. That's HIS strongest match up from what I've seen of him, although I haven't seen nearly as much of Dream as I have of other Terrans.


Dream's TvZ is his best MU, yes. That said, him losing to DRG doesn't qualify his TvZ as "really good" though.
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