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Champions Brawl with Reynor, Serral, Clem, Byun...

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xelnaga_empire
Profile Joined March 2012
627 Posts
April 24 2021 14:06 GMT
#1
So Reynor, Serral, Clem, Zest, Trap, and Byun are participating in a tournament casted by Catz, CreightenOlsen, and TLO. The stream is at: https://www.twitch.tv/rootcatz

The Liquipedia entry is: (Wiki)Champions Brawl
Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States837 Posts
April 24 2021 14:32 GMT
#2
Oh damn this looks fun, and it’s live
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
xelnaga_empire
Profile Joined March 2012
627 Posts
April 24 2021 14:43 GMT
#3
On April 24 2021 23:32 Husyelt wrote:
Oh damn this looks fun, and it’s live


Yup! Serral vs Reynor right now too!
Obamarauder
Profile Joined June 2015
697 Posts
April 24 2021 14:51 GMT
#4
Really wish maru played in tournaments like these..
CreightonOlsen
Profile Blog Joined September 2018
United States366 Posts
April 24 2021 16:51 GMT
#5
On April 24 2021 23:06 xelnaga_empire wrote:
So Reynor, Serral, Clem, Zest, Trap, and Byun are participating in a tournament casted by Catz, CreightenOlsen, and TLO. The stream is at: https://www.twitch.tv/rootcatz

The Liquipedia entry is: https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/Champions_Brawl


CreightonOlsen* <3
https://www.twitch.tv/CreightonOlsen
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
April 24 2021 16:58 GMT
#6
Tough day for Zest and Reynor
Javah
Profile Joined August 2010
France739 Posts
April 24 2021 17:15 GMT
#7
That's a great tourney! Thanks CatZ & Creighton for putting this up. It's good to hear TLO again.
And Clem is on fire so far!
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-24 17:16:31
April 24 2021 17:15 GMT
#8
Reynor's getting rolled over by everyone, if he doesn't want to play right now he should just take a couple months of break and come back when he feel like practicing. It's a bit of a bummer having a world champion that is in no shape to justify his title.

On the other side, Clem is looking super good.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8245 Posts
April 24 2021 17:17 GMT
#9
Reynor is awful. Wtf?
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
April 24 2021 17:18 GMT
#10
Reynor fluke champ confirmed 100% now
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Javah
Profile Joined August 2010
France739 Posts
April 24 2021 17:19 GMT
#11
On April 25 2021 02:17 geokilla wrote:
Reynor is awful. Wtf?

Or maybe bo1 against some of the best players SC2 has to offer these days can be unforgiving?
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8245 Posts
April 24 2021 17:23 GMT
#12
On April 25 2021 02:19 Javah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2021 02:17 geokilla wrote:
Reynor is awful. Wtf?

Or maybe bo1 against some of the best players SC2 has to offer these days can be unforgiving?

The games he lost weren't even close. It was reaaaaaly one sided. Plus he was playing a strat I don't see get played much anymore: Ling-Bane only.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
April 24 2021 17:27 GMT
#13
Is Reynor the worst player to ever win a World Championship in modern Starcraft?
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Obamarauder
Profile Joined June 2015
697 Posts
April 24 2021 17:39 GMT
#14
reynor streamed yesterday and pretty much fucked around every game. dont think he really takes things srsly atm
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
April 24 2021 18:20 GMT
#15
On April 25 2021 02:27 Morbidius wrote:
Is Reynor the worst player to ever win a World Championship in modern Starcraft?


Stupid question, of course he is. Everyone sane had to admit his run was nothing but pure luck and his opponents screwing up. But yeah the way he has been playing since then is a bit embarrassing even for a fluke champ :/

User was temp banned for this post.
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-24 18:49:24
April 24 2021 18:33 GMT
#16
On April 25 2021 02:27 Morbidius wrote:
Is Reynor the worst player to ever win a World Championship in modern Starcraft?


Nah... well maybe it's probably somewhere between him, Parting and ByuN, but he's not particularly worse than our "average" world champ.

He's definitely starting to have the worst world championship reign since at least BuyN (and even him won his next tournament, even though it was some WCG shit).

It's a shame I like it better when world champ have some kind of invincibility aura around them it make for great moments when they lose, sOs reverse sweeping Scarlett then getting hinched out by Parting at Red Bull, ForGG pulling the upset of all upset in the grand final of Dreamhack Winter, soO battling down Serral to the last roach at Katowice, Maru stopping Dark who was looking on his track to a 12-1 ST victory...
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Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada2393 Posts
April 24 2021 18:50 GMT
#17
somehow TL has become more toxic than reddit
Progamer
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
April 24 2021 18:51 GMT
#18
On April 25 2021 02:39 Obamarauder wrote:
reynor streamed yesterday and pretty much fucked around every game. dont think he really takes things srsly atm


Pls don't use the Maru excuses...

For some reason Reynor is playing bad. Like really bad. Maybe his Mojo is gone. Who knows...
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3482 Posts
April 24 2021 18:58 GMT
#19
On April 25 2021 03:51 JoeCool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2021 02:39 Obamarauder wrote:
reynor streamed yesterday and pretty much fucked around every game. dont think he really takes things srsly atm


Pls don't use the Maru excuses...

For some reason Reynor is playing bad. Like really bad. Maybe his Mojo is gone. Who knows...

This is not something new though. Reynor often does this all the time. After getting to Blizzcon Final in 2019, he got flushed out of the group stage in IEM 2020. After winning the DH Globall Fall last year, he didnt win any other tournament until the recent IEM, and even get eliminated in the Last Chance tournnament group stage.
So, dont worry about it, Reynor will be able to get things together before the DH Global Summer.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
April 24 2021 19:02 GMT
#20
On April 25 2021 03:51 JoeCool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2021 02:39 Obamarauder wrote:
reynor streamed yesterday and pretty much fucked around every game. dont think he really takes things srsly atm


Pls don't use the Maru excuses...

For some reason Reynor is playing bad. Like really bad. Maybe his Mojo is gone. Who knows...


He's probably just on holliday, apparently he was at Rotti's place today, when he get back to practice he will come back to his usual level.
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8245 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-24 19:41:21
April 24 2021 19:40 GMT
#21
On April 25 2021 03:33 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2021 02:27 Morbidius wrote:
Is Reynor the worst player to ever win a World Championship in modern Starcraft?


Nah... well maybe it's probably somewhere between him, Parting and ByuN, but he's not particularly worse than our "average" world champ.

He's definitely starting to have the worst world championship reign since at least BuyN (and even him won his next tournament, even though it was some WCG shit).

It's a shame I like it better when world champ have some kind of invincibility aura around them it make for great moments when they lose, sOs reverse sweeping Scarlett then getting hinched out by Parting at Red Bull, ForGG pulling the upset of all upset in the grand final of Dreamhack Winter, soO battling down Serral to the last roach at Katowice, Maru stopping Dark who was looking on his track to a 12-1 ST victory...

That's why the one true bonjwa is Mvp.

On April 25 2021 04:02 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2021 03:51 JoeCool wrote:
On April 25 2021 02:39 Obamarauder wrote:
reynor streamed yesterday and pretty much fucked around every game. dont think he really takes things srsly atm


Pls don't use the Maru excuses...

For some reason Reynor is playing bad. Like really bad. Maybe his Mojo is gone. Who knows...


He's probably just on holliday, apparently he was at Rotti's place today, when he get back to practice he will come back to his usual level.

Is Europe not in lockdown? I know Reynor has been gambling a lot.
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3640 Posts
April 24 2021 19:42 GMT
#22
On April 25 2021 03:50 Scarlett` wrote:
somehow TL has become more toxic than reddit

^ this

...tl forums are pretty embarassing these days...
ModeratorSC2 LP Admin - My Life for Aiur - Let the Metal flow - @Cynical_Death
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
April 24 2021 19:59 GMT
#23
On April 25 2021 04:42 CynicalDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2021 03:50 Scarlett` wrote:
somehow TL has become more toxic than reddit

^ this

...tl forums are pretty embarassing these days...


Fair enough, I'll try to be more positive in the future!

On the plus side, it has been a pretty good day of Starcraft, made me think about going back to my history of SC2 project.
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SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5459 Posts
April 24 2021 20:28 GMT
#24
Are there VODs anywhere?
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4070 Posts
April 24 2021 21:09 GMT
#25
On April 25 2021 03:50 Scarlett` wrote:
somehow TL has become more toxic than reddit


been like that for a while. 3-4 same characters continuously join every thread about high-level SC2 to express their hatred without even trying to mask it anymore. Ruin it for everyone else, really.
Drone is a way of living
iloveoof
Profile Joined July 2019
12 Posts
April 24 2021 23:52 GMT
#26
Will the replays be released? Byun executed a perfect 3rax against Trap and I really want to study those gas timings.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
April 25 2021 00:21 GMT
#27
Imagine calling Reynor bad for playing subpar against some of the best players in the world in a minor tournament while worshipping Rogue who, after winning Katowice, regularly gets owned by worse players in groupstages of Code S...
CreightonOlsen
Profile Blog Joined September 2018
United States366 Posts
April 25 2021 01:16 GMT
#28
On April 25 2021 08:52 iloveoof wrote:
Will the replays be released? Byun executed a perfect 3rax against Trap and I really want to study those gas timings.


As far as I know, there are no plans to distribute VoDs or replays. Since the event is at least partially sponsored by Twitch, the content will stay on their platform.
https://www.twitch.tv/CreightonOlsen
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-25 05:26:40
April 25 2021 05:25 GMT
#29
On April 25 2021 09:21 Xain0n wrote:
Imagine calling Reynor bad for playing subpar against some of the best players in the world in a minor tournament while worshipping Rogue who, after winning Katowice, regularly gets owned by worse players in groupstages of Code S...


Do not bring other player's name who never get a chance to play in this tournament.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
April 25 2021 09:22 GMT
#30
On April 25 2021 09:21 Xain0n wrote:
Imagine calling Reynor bad for playing subpar against some of the best players in the world in a minor tournament while worshipping Rogue who, after winning Katowice, regularly gets owned by worse players in groupstages of Code S...


In fairness, Rogue has a long and trophied history of taking holidays and then coming back to be the best player bar none long enough to take a premier tournament win in unwatchably dominating fashion.

But yes, saying Reynor is bad because he's had a lull after becoming world champion is dumb. It's April, he's got time to get back into shape for the year.
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3640 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-25 10:11:05
April 25 2021 09:40 GMT
#31
On April 25 2021 09:21 Xain0n wrote:
Imagine calling Reynor bad for playing subpar against some of the best players in the world in a minor tournament...

Imagine calling Reynor bad for losing 4 Bo1s vs:
- Serral (can happen maybe vs the goat? he won vs him 2-0 like 2 days ago when it really counted for EPT circuit points but nvm, let's not consider that, Reynor is just so bad)
- Trap (his PvZ is monstruos and nvm he won also against Serral like 1 hour later, let's not consider that, Reynor is just so bad)
- ByuN (losing a single map ZvT vs ByuN? scandalous! ofc forget he won also against Serral like 1 hour later... c'mon Reynor, learn to play ffs)
- Clem (his TvZ is actually probably just the best on planet Earth, but let's not consider that, Reynor is just so bad)
all of this playing at Rotti's house in a minor tournament in the offseason, a couple of weeks before the new proper season starts...

...but nope, people are right, better hurry to shit on him and call him the worst ever, the real sc2 fluke..

...I am almost amazed at how TL forums never change its Reddit-ish / Twitch chat attitude that has been going on in the latest times...
ModeratorSC2 LP Admin - My Life for Aiur - Let the Metal flow - @Cynical_Death
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-25 15:22:03
April 25 2021 15:05 GMT
#32
Clem tvz is insane what the hell

Amazing comeback by the frenchmen
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
April 25 2021 15:07 GMT
#33
crazy match to start the day
~~~~~
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
April 25 2021 15:11 GMT
#34
that's a hard one to lose for Serral. Clem is really insanely good, he never gives up...
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
April 25 2021 15:31 GMT
#35
Clem!! He looks in superb shape.
Also yeah I don’t get the hate for Reynor, it’s bo1 and against very good players anyways, I would not worry too much and if resting a bit after his WC win allows him to be in top shape for the 2021 season let him do his way?
WriterMaru
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8245 Posts
April 25 2021 15:40 GMT
#36
Clem is so fucking good.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
April 25 2021 15:40 GMT
#37
Impressive TvZ ! Clem looks superb indeed
Rubicant1
Profile Joined October 2019
115 Posts
April 25 2021 15:55 GMT
#38
Clem's TvZ looking immaculate as always!

Gotta say, forum quality of life has really been plummeting for awhile. Kind of sad to see after watching/playing sc2 since WoL that TL is becoming like a toxic Reddit thread more and more often.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
April 25 2021 16:00 GMT
#39
I wonder how much Trap will be willing to show with his semi vs Maru upcoming and the fact he doesn't seem comfortable in PvT atm anyway
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33586 Posts
April 25 2021 16:03 GMT
#40
I see some unenlightened fans in this thread who haven't bought into Wax's "greatest parity era EVER" theory
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-25 16:11:06
April 25 2021 16:10 GMT
#41
On April 26 2021 01:03 Waxangel wrote:
I see some unenlightened fans in this thread who haven't bought into Wax's "greatest parity era EVER" theory


But I can't pretend to know better than everyone else with this parity era
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swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
April 25 2021 16:34 GMT
#42
Maru can win against Trap at this moment if they play each other.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
April 25 2021 16:38 GMT
#43
On April 26 2021 01:34 swarminfestor wrote:
Maru can win against Trap at this moment if they play each other.

looks like it yeah. And Maru - Rogue finals bo7 ? Hell, sign me in
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
April 25 2021 16:46 GMT
#44
Trap PvT seemed unnispired, hope it can bring it vs Maru
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
April 25 2021 18:06 GMT
#45
didn't see the games but maybe trap was hiding strats vs Byun so he can have builds vs Maru?
Ofc that is no excuse but still
Faker is the GOAT!
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
April 25 2021 18:21 GMT
#46
On April 26 2021 03:06 AzAlexZ wrote:
didn't see the games but maybe trap was hiding strats vs Byun so he can have builds vs Maru?
Ofc that is no excuse but still

definitely a possibility, but while Trap's PvZ is really good atm, he has been rather meek in PvT for some time now - if not downright struggling given his standards.
pelinore
Profile Joined February 2020
4 Posts
April 26 2021 01:02 GMT
#47
page 1 of the thread is very yikes but it's basically just 2 dudes overreacting and one legit hater. It's obvious reynor isn't at his Katowice form after taking a break (he admitted himself being a bit rusty), but he still 2-0ed serral in the NeXT qualifier.

Superb competition overall, a dense format full of great games. Special mention to game 1 of Clem vs Serral (a must see) and the bo1 clem vs byun (frenetic push into counter push into counter-counter-push in the last minutes), two hyperagressive terrans make for a great TvT.

The vods of the english cast are locked behind subwall, but 1)replay will be given to pig/lowko, so most games will prob find their way to youtube and 2)you can watch non-english vods.

Ogaming vods if you're ok with french cast:

group stage: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/999162263

playoffs: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1000417492
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26512 Posts
April 26 2021 01:58 GMT
#48
On April 26 2021 03:21 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2021 03:06 AzAlexZ wrote:
didn't see the games but maybe trap was hiding strats vs Byun so he can have builds vs Maru?
Ofc that is no excuse but still

definitely a possibility, but while Trap's PvZ is really good atm, he has been rather meek in PvT for some time now - if not downright struggling given his standards.

I wonder if struggling so hard to up his PvZ when he kept losing to Zerg players time after time knocked his vT a little?

I'm certainly hoping that is not the case with Maru coming up mind!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
April 26 2021 08:01 GMT
#49
Clem looked extremely strong against Serral, who himself had looked strong in the group stage. Their game 1 in the semis was a highlight.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
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