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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
February 23 2021 16:17 GMT
#161
This series was just as terrible for Serral as TSL6 and played out in a very similar way.
He lost to ling flood after a successful early defense once more and tried to nydus Dark before mutas once again; he knows Dark wants to go mutalisks, Dark knows he wants to allin so why doesn't he do something different?

It's probably the first time Serral gets rekt by the same strategies in two instances so far in time(he lost multiple times to the same strategies in the same tournaments before), I'm frankly disappointed.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
February 23 2021 16:18 GMT
#162
On February 24 2021 01:16 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2021 01:14 Fango wrote:
On February 24 2021 01:10 Vindicare605 wrote:
So I'm pretty confident Innovation will beat Dark convincingly in the next round. Serral still has a shot at first place in this group if he can beat Inno.

It was always gonna be Dark INno Serral but Serral basically needs to beat INno, and have INno beat Dark, to get 1st

Yeah, this is the easiest group in the sense that the top 3 players are almost guaranteed to pull thru.

honestly I thought TIME and Bunny had potential - wasn't too confident for Special. TIME could still do something... But yeah, probably Dark INno Serral now.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
February 23 2021 16:19 GMT
#163
On February 24 2021 01:17 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2021 01:16 Morbidius wrote:
On February 24 2021 01:14 Fango wrote:
On February 24 2021 01:10 Vindicare605 wrote:
So I'm pretty confident Innovation will beat Dark convincingly in the next round. Serral still has a shot at first place in this group if he can beat Inno.

It was always gonna be Dark INno Serral but Serral basically needs to beat INno, and have INno beat Dark, to get 1st

Yeah, this is the easiest group in the sense that the top 3 players are almost guaranteed to pull thru.

it's really ridiculous how much easier this group is than A overall, Serral often gets lucky with his groups and bracket draws


Yea I'm sure it's just "luck" that Serral always manages to avoid Groups of Death.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
February 23 2021 16:19 GMT
#164
It's kinda confusing how Serral can be an EU zerg and have ZvZ be his worst matchup.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 23 2021 16:20 GMT
#165
On February 24 2021 01:19 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2021 01:17 Die4Ever wrote:
On February 24 2021 01:16 Morbidius wrote:
On February 24 2021 01:14 Fango wrote:
On February 24 2021 01:10 Vindicare605 wrote:
So I'm pretty confident Innovation will beat Dark convincingly in the next round. Serral still has a shot at first place in this group if he can beat Inno.

It was always gonna be Dark INno Serral but Serral basically needs to beat INno, and have INno beat Dark, to get 1st

Yeah, this is the easiest group in the sense that the top 3 players are almost guaranteed to pull thru.

it's really ridiculous how much easier this group is than A overall, Serral often gets lucky with his groups and bracket draws


Yea I'm sure it's just "luck" that Serral always manages to avoid Groups of Death.


Yes?
Also he dosen't
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
February 23 2021 16:21 GMT
#166
On February 24 2021 01:18 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2021 01:16 Morbidius wrote:
On February 24 2021 01:14 Fango wrote:
On February 24 2021 01:10 Vindicare605 wrote:
So I'm pretty confident Innovation will beat Dark convincingly in the next round. Serral still has a shot at first place in this group if he can beat Inno.

It was always gonna be Dark INno Serral but Serral basically needs to beat INno, and have INno beat Dark, to get 1st

Yeah, this is the easiest group in the sense that the top 3 players are almost guaranteed to pull thru.

honestly I thought TIME and Bunny had potential - wasn't too confident for Special. TIME could still do something... But yeah, probably Dark INno Serral now.

They had potential to upset the standings between the top 3 by taking a series. Not so much potential to steal a third place.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 23 2021 16:21 GMT
#167
Is there any world where Serral doesn't get out? Even if he loses to INno he would need some 3-2 tie shenanigans to not make it
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
February 23 2021 16:21 GMT
#168
On February 24 2021 01:19 dysenterymd wrote:
It's kinda confusing how Serral can be an EU zerg and have ZvZ be his worst matchup.


No it actually makes a lot of sense. ZvZ doesn't play to Serral's strengths..
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
February 23 2021 16:22 GMT
#169
On February 24 2021 01:15 Waxangel wrote:
I think ppl take a little bit too much glee in Serral's ZvZ losses... stupid is kinda how ZvZ is supposed to be

losing 0-3 to Cure is a much bigger "the sky is falling!" moment and he got over that


Let me disagree. ZvZ was a very interesting, more stable and definitely not stupid matchup in previous metas!
The problem with Serral's ZvZ(especially against Dark) is that he is not finding an answer, it's awful.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
February 23 2021 16:22 GMT
#170
On February 24 2021 01:21 Fango wrote:
Is there any world where Serral doesn't get out? Even if he loses to INno he would need some 3-2 tie shenanigans to not make it


Sure, if Time beats him (it's not an impossibility) he can steal third place.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 23 2021 16:22 GMT
#171
On February 24 2021 01:21 Fango wrote:
Is there any world where Serral doesn't get out? Even if he loses to INno he would need some 3-2 tie shenanigans to not make it


Well it's the same for everyone, he would need to lose to Time or Bunny.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 23 2021 16:23 GMT
#172
On February 24 2021 01:22 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2021 01:21 Fango wrote:
Is there any world where Serral doesn't get out? Even if he loses to INno he would need some 3-2 tie shenanigans to not make it


Well it's the same for everyone, he would need to lose to Time or Bunny.

Yeah but I'm assuming him losing to Time or Bunny is just never gonna happen
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
February 23 2021 16:24 GMT
#173
On February 24 2021 01:21 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2021 01:19 dysenterymd wrote:
It's kinda confusing how Serral can be an EU zerg and have ZvZ be his worst matchup.


No it actually makes a lot of sense. ZvZ doesn't play to Serral's strengths..


I agree with you this time. ZvZ as it is now doesn't play to Serral's strenghts unlike it did in the past and, in addition to that, Serral has been quite stubborn refusing to go mutalisks and giving his opponents an edge letting them know he hates that strat.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
February 23 2021 16:24 GMT
#174
On February 24 2021 01:21 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2021 01:18 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On February 24 2021 01:16 Morbidius wrote:
On February 24 2021 01:14 Fango wrote:
On February 24 2021 01:10 Vindicare605 wrote:
So I'm pretty confident Innovation will beat Dark convincingly in the next round. Serral still has a shot at first place in this group if he can beat Inno.

It was always gonna be Dark INno Serral but Serral basically needs to beat INno, and have INno beat Dark, to get 1st

Yeah, this is the easiest group in the sense that the top 3 players are almost guaranteed to pull thru.

honestly I thought TIME and Bunny had potential - wasn't too confident for Special. TIME could still do something... But yeah, probably Dark INno Serral now.

They had potential to upset the standings between the top 3 by taking a series. Not so much potential to steal a third place.

well I don't necessarily agree, I think you could come up quite easily with not too unlikely scenarios where TIME or Bunny got top 3. But ofc the top 3 we'll probably get was expected, and quite logically so
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 23 2021 16:25 GMT
#175
On February 24 2021 01:23 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2021 01:22 Nakajin wrote:
On February 24 2021 01:21 Fango wrote:
Is there any world where Serral doesn't get out? Even if he loses to INno he would need some 3-2 tie shenanigans to not make it


Well it's the same for everyone, he would need to lose to Time or Bunny.

Yeah but I'm assuming him losing to Time or Bunny is just never gonna happen


Then I guess, there's a world where Time 2-0 Special and Dark, and Dark beat INno and Serral drop maps against the two Terran and we got some math to do.
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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 23 2021 16:27 GMT
#176
On February 24 2021 01:14 Darkhorse wrote:
We still hype up landed vikings getting picked up by medivacs like select wasn't doing that in 2010


It's always funny. Also Phoenixes lifting landed Vikings.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7160 Posts
February 23 2021 16:28 GMT
#177
Special should just keep playing mech in TvT.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
February 23 2021 16:28 GMT
#178
Alright, now is Dark going to go for his trademark ill advised Ravager style? Probably.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4965 Posts
February 23 2021 16:29 GMT
#179
sad thing is that either special or time are not going to enjoy main stream exposure and that saddens me. Thry did it perfectly yesterday showing all players why 3 dark games in a row?
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 23 2021 16:30 GMT
#180
On February 24 2021 01:28 Vindicare605 wrote:
Alright, now is Dark going to go for his trademark ill advised Ravager style? Probably.

Hey it works against broken wrists Byun!
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