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Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
February 22 2021 16:40 GMT
#141
On February 23 2021 01:34 Waxangel wrote:
I remember there are ppl who seriously think we should not have production tabs in SC2 because they belive that's what makes BW good (it's not)


The best way to experience StarCraft is like we did it in the 1950s: via a commentator describing the game to us during a radio broadcast.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
February 22 2021 16:40 GMT
#142
yeah just not a good day for Showtime. ByuN gets to display his phenomenal micromanagement of the engages vs robo units again though.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 22 2021 16:40 GMT
#143
On February 23 2021 01:40 Crocolisk Dundee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2021 01:34 Waxangel wrote:
I remember there are ppl who seriously think we should not have production tabs in SC2 because they belive that's what makes BW good (it's not)


The best way to experience StarCraft is like we did it in the 1950s: via a commentator describing the game to us during a radio broadcast.


360p is a luxury.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26268 Posts
February 22 2021 16:44 GMT
#144
On February 23 2021 01:34 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2021 01:16 WombaT wrote:
On February 23 2021 00:55 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 23 2021 00:53 WombaT wrote:
On February 23 2021 00:42 CreightonOlsen wrote:
On February 23 2021 00:31 Weavel wrote:
I really dislike the overuse of wider camera in the b stream. Everything looks tiny.


I love using Zoomout for bigger coverage of fights. We have the tools to see the whole battlefield, so why deny the spectators information? But I understand it's not everyone's cup of tea, and I appreciate the feedback. Will mix things up a bit more, but don't expect too many changes. <3

I like it when it’s used judiciously, to give an idea of where everything is.

When it’s overused I think it can create a bit of a disconnect with what the players can see and what we can see that can kill the drama a bit.

Super Tournament finals for example (my memory is fading with age, the players roles may be reversed) I think it was Zoun sneaking disruptors behind Trap’s army and the observer basically only showed them slightly before Trap got hit by them. Which was a cool bit of drama where the flank bamboozled the viewers almost as much as it did Trap.

If everything was zoomed we’d have lost the element of surprise that made the moment so intense, it would have been ‘oh he’s going for a flank, this is probably going to work’ way before the fact. Still exciting but not as fun.

On the flip side from tuning in to many of your streams I don’t recall it being something you overdo, plus having done it myself it’s really tricky to observe, cast and do both well simultaneously!

See I have to disagree. I personally don't like when info I could have is withheld. I'd like to see as much as possible and draw my own conclusions

So I appreciate the wide shots for the most part unless it is super overused which I didn't particularly notice from the B stream

I guess it’s a preference thing and it’s kind of innately impossible to appeal to both camps, I wonder what the breakdown of each preference is though.

Poll: In an ideal world, would you tend towards these as a preference

More information available to viewers (10)
 
71%

Less information available to viewers (4)
 
29%

14 total votes

Your vote: In an ideal world, would you tend towards these as a preference

(Vote): More information available to viewers
(Vote): Less information available to viewers





I'm inclined to think this is a silly poll, but then I remember there are ppl who seriously think we should not have production tabs in SC2 because they belive that's what makes BW good (it's not)

How very dare you, my polls aren’t silly just the majority of my posts.

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Gina
Profile Joined July 2019
241 Posts
February 22 2021 16:45 GMT
#145
Wow Clem. I mean I understand pretty much nothing of this, but looks good.
Omit needles swords.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
February 22 2021 16:45 GMT
#146
Clem looks incredible so far
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
February 22 2021 16:45 GMT
#147
On one hand, Maru is showing grit and how hard he is to kill, on the other hand its not like he should have to against Solar.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10104 Posts
February 22 2021 16:45 GMT
#148
woah Clem is on fire!
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
February 22 2021 16:46 GMT
#149
I dont wanna read anyone complaining about TvT groups anymore this day is delivering SO hard
~~~~~
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
February 22 2021 16:46 GMT
#150
So many micro mistakes from both players in TY v Clem. Seems cross server play is showing its ugly head.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33559 Posts
February 22 2021 16:47 GMT
#151
Pretty insane how Clem been showing improvement at almost every single tournament he's played in since Katowice 2020
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
February 22 2021 16:50 GMT
#152
that all-in by Showtime was actually not that far from working
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26268 Posts
February 22 2021 16:50 GMT
#153
On February 23 2021 01:47 Waxangel wrote:
Pretty insane how Clem been showing improvement at almost every single tournament he's played in since Katowice 2020

If his all-round game and chops across all matchups have improved rather than him merely grinding TvT hard that’s absolutely terrifyingly for any Zergs he might encounter.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
February 22 2021 16:53 GMT
#154
ByuN is still alive on a razor thin edge but once the 2-2 and ghosts with enhanced emp kick in he should roll
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
February 22 2021 16:54 GMT
#155
Playing against Maru in late game must be so frustrating.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
February 22 2021 16:54 GMT
#156
yeah exactly as expected. Poor Tobias
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33559 Posts
February 22 2021 16:55 GMT
#157
Guys, get ready for #castermath
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45294 Posts
February 22 2021 16:56 GMT
#158
On February 23 2021 01:45 Topin wrote:
woah Clem is on fire!


Yep! He's positioned to make some pretty serious upsets.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
February 22 2021 16:56 GMT
#159
Solar may not get to the ro12 but he's trying very hard to get at least in the top 8 for time spent playing in this tourney ^^
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
February 22 2021 16:57 GMT
#160
TY played this out so poorly I can't even begin
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