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Obamarauder
Profile Joined June 2015
697 Posts
February 22 2021 15:10 GMT
#61
On February 23 2021 00:04 Darkhorse wrote:
I gotta say the fact that Byun has completely forgotten upgrades in multiple games this tournament already is pretty sad

Also it has to be said that both against Dream and Maru the fact that Byun opts to go incredibly raven and viking light came back to bite him. I get not wanting to overinvest in air but air superiority is amazing in those marine tank fights especially because your ravens can get close enough to matrix their tanks and theirs can't. But I don't really expect Byun to change haha


that basically summarizes byun right? low tech army whole game but gets wins cuz of small victories and efficient micro
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
February 22 2021 15:12 GMT
#62
maru is going to proxy rax
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 22 2021 15:13 GMT
#63
On February 23 2021 00:09 Waxangel wrote:
I don't think ByuN's TvT style necessarily has a ceiling. He's beat great players (including Maru)by forcing Marine-Tank down their throats. Sword and shield are equally matched imo, just an issue of who plays better on the day.

Maru vs TY is shield vs shield tho

I'm not saying it can't beat the best on the day if you have better army movement/positioning/macro/harassment but I do think he could make things easier on himself if he didn't concede the air from the start. Not that Byun is one to make things easier on himself
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Zergiica
Profile Joined October 2015
Croatia128 Posts
February 22 2021 15:14 GMT
#64
On February 23 2021 00:08 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2021 00:07 Zergiica wrote:
great. biggest tournament and they have three games in the same time. can't understand sc2 way of production/promotion etc. i am always surprised.

and long pauses after everything <3


It's to ensure there is no collusion since it's round robin, same as with World cup matches for example.


it goes like that for last game only. first two rounds are in different times.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33592 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-22 15:22:05
February 22 2021 15:17 GMT
#65
On February 23 2021 00:14 Zergiica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2021 00:08 Nakajin wrote:
On February 23 2021 00:07 Zergiica wrote:
great. biggest tournament and they have three games in the same time. can't understand sc2 way of production/promotion etc. i am always surprised.

and long pauses after everything <3


It's to ensure there is no collusion since it's round robin, same as with World cup matches for example.


it goes like that for last game only. first two rounds are in different times.


it's all about logistical constraints vs having a good format

IEM has always been a live event that only has a given venue for a certain # hours over a certain # of days, so it's virtually impossible for them to show all round-robin matches on one stream. Players really prefer playing comprehensive round robins, so side streams is the compromise everyone reached.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 22 2021 15:17 GMT
#66
On February 23 2021 00:14 Zergiica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2021 00:08 Nakajin wrote:
On February 23 2021 00:07 Zergiica wrote:
great. biggest tournament and they have three games in the same time. can't understand sc2 way of production/promotion etc. i am always surprised.

and long pauses after everything <3


It's to ensure there is no collusion since it's round robin, same as with World cup matches for example.


it goes like that for last game only. first two rounds are in different times.


Oh, ok didn't know that, in any case they said that's what they said on the B stream (the collusion thing, not the WC thing)
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-22 15:18:47
February 22 2021 15:18 GMT
#67
they interview TY first so they have room in the winners interview for maru
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2217 Posts
February 22 2021 15:18 GMT
#68
Time for the big one
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 22 2021 15:19 GMT
#69
Good guy Byun straight up donating game one to Clem
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
February 22 2021 15:19 GMT
#70
Clem good
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 22 2021 15:20 GMT
#71
On February 23 2021 00:19 Aeromi wrote:
Clem good

Byun bad
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 22 2021 15:21 GMT
#72
On February 23 2021 00:12 Argonauta wrote:
maru is going to proxy rax


Well done
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33592 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-22 15:26:21
February 22 2021 15:21 GMT
#73
TY going for a hellion drop is like the most predictable thing last year but somehow it always works
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
February 22 2021 15:21 GMT
#74
Proxy starport
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 22 2021 15:22 GMT
#75
Maru building two bunkers? I'm confused
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
February 22 2021 15:25 GMT
#76
Ty putting fires on like a maniac and maru running behind with an extinguisher
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 22 2021 15:30 GMT
#77
Until I saw this, I never realised that four Marines can probably just kill a sieged Tank .
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Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9223 Posts
February 22 2021 15:31 GMT
#78
I really dislike the overuse of wider camera in the b stream. Everything looks tiny.
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8246 Posts
February 22 2021 15:33 GMT
#79
I love watching TvT
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
February 22 2021 15:36 GMT
#80
Hey IEM production crew, if you’re reading this: I really like the virtual commentator desks and player cams. This is the best-produced online tournament I have watched.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
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