EPTGG Rogue. Made Mary look like a scrub today
[GSL 2020] Super Tournament 2 - Quarterfinals - Page 12
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Harris1st
Germany7090 Posts
GG Rogue. Made Mary look like a scrub today | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
On December 09 2020 22:12 deacon.frost wrote: Is it just me or Maru played badly and Rogue was in a godmode? Like the worst possible combination of their forms considering the viewer experience? I wonder if it is connected to Maru's health, like if he wakes up with wrist pains and he goes - well, this is gonna be a bad day. (my knees have similar mood based on the planet constaletion or whatever it is, no idea) I feel like there's some hidden meta or mind-games going on in the heads of the pro-gamers that we're not conscious about. We're quick to be critical on Stats and Maru for not doing something simple as 'holding the door'. But maybe they make such slips because they're focused on plugging other gaps that Rogue can capitalise. Or maybe even building or moving a single unit in the early game can snowball into a disadvantage later on. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On December 09 2020 22:25 RKC wrote: I feel like there's some hidden meta or mind-games going on in the heads of the pro-gamers that we're not conscious about. We're quick to be critical on Stats and Maru for not doing something simple as 'holding the door'. But maybe they make such slips because they're focused on plugging other gaps that Rogue can capitalise. Or maybe even building or moving a single unit in the early game can snowball into a disadvantage later on. Not saying no to that. But from the visual perspective Maru played worse than is his standard and Rogue played better than his one. Just was curious if others were looking at it with the same thought in their minds. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
Maru is predictably inconsistent outside of Code S, instead. Rogue advancing, fewer hopes for Protoss... | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4965 Posts
On December 09 2020 22:29 Xain0n wrote: Rogue seems to be less inconsistent than usual recently, he's playing well most of the times. Maru is predictably inconsistent outside of Code S, instead. Rogue advancing, fewer hopes for Protoss... Maru inconsistent? Data doesn't agree with that | ||
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Rubicant1
115 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On December 09 2020 22:37 Rubicant1 wrote: That felt like some bizarro reality where Rogue was in GOAT-mode and Maru played like he couldn't care less. Rogue was definitely dominant, but I can't remember the last time I saw Maru play so poorly. the DH finals or w/e was the reason behind the rock bottom nonsense | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On December 09 2020 22:36 Argonauta wrote: Maru inconsistent? Data doesn't agree with that Outside of Code S? Without any doubt. Look at your datas more accurately. | ||
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
On December 09 2020 22:36 Argonauta wrote: Maru inconsistent? Data doesn't agree with that Given how often he's dropped out in the early rounds of tournaments or had weird nonsense happen like sOs / Solar suddenly sweep him, I'd say the data very much agrees with it. Maru's peak form is incredible, but when he's not on it this kinda performance is hardly unprecedented. Rogue is much the same (although a bit less so recently). That said, it's hard to look good in games against a top player when you lose half your workers to ling runbys before finishing your third. | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
It's normal for evenly-skilled teams to end up with a lopsided result. Small margins can snowball into big advantages. Point is, I don't know why people are surprised with 'surprising' results in competitive sports. Edit: Plus when you're a top player/team playing at the top level, any off-day makes you look terrible by comparison. | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4965 Posts
On December 09 2020 22:47 Xain0n wrote: Outside of Code S? Without any doubt. Look at your datas more accurately. mmmm so who among koreans has been more consistent? | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7090 Posts
On December 09 2020 23:32 Argonauta wrote: mmmm so who among koreans has been more consistent? Consistent? I think you mean Statsistent. Or consitstats | ||
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Durnuu
13322 Posts
On December 09 2020 23:32 Argonauta wrote: mmmm so who among koreans has been more consistent? TY, Stats, Dark (until this year in his case). Trap is very consistent as well but it's more recent than the others. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On December 09 2020 23:32 Argonauta wrote: mmmm so who among koreans has been more consistent? Technically almost every player is predictable so most of them are consistent  Maru is great in the Code S, Rogue is in godmode or isn't, Dark is the destroyer(well, used to be), Trap or Stats get to the finals and lose there  Edit> Korea still has most of the talent of the SC2 pool so that's the reason players are seen as inconsistent. Some have health issues which may be behind their random bombings and you see more the form fluctuation because there are more players who can use that. | ||
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
On December 09 2020 22:54 RKC wrote: It's all very subjective. I felt TY-Dark was close. But some people were saying TY outplayed (or always stayed one step ahead of) Dark. Not saying that I'm right. But the point being that if such a 'visually' close game can already seem rather one-sided, what more Rogue-Maru? Sure, maybe Maru was playing a gear lower than usual. But that can happen to even top players/teams in sports (e.g. Bayern trouncing Barca last Champions league, Barca-Liverpool from the year before, Germany trouncing Brazil in World Cup 2014). It's normal for evenly-skilled teams to end up with a lopsided result. Small margins can snowball into big advantages. Point is, I don't know why people are surprised with 'surprising' results in competitive sports. Edit: Plus when you're a top player/team playing at the top level, any off-day makes you look terrible by comparison. Maru has definitely had his off days before. I still think today he looked especially bad, though. | ||
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kaykoose
United States2302 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On December 10 2020 00:10 kaykoose wrote: So many excuses for Maru when he loses. There's nothing wrong with him. Rogue was just better that series. Yeah, cause Maru played like the usual and it wasn't worse than his standard... havey ou seen the games? | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
Everyone gets bopped sometimes, and Maru especially, if he is against team mates. Anyway happy for Rogue he seems to be getting back to top form, and really seemed like he knew exactly what to do against Maru to counter him and throw him off. Lets see who gets into the finals, if its a free ZvP win for Rogue now or if TY will be there to put up a fight. | ||
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Monster3
16 Posts
On December 09 2020 21:26 BerserkSword wrote: judging what i've seen from lesser tournaments, he struggles vs protoss LOL | ||
Poopi
France12909 Posts
He seemed surprised with the lurker play today, even though it’s been used in foreign scene and international tournaments for a few months already, and not only by Reynor. Also calling Rogue + Dark the best 2 zergs in the world kinda hints at him not watching sc2 outside of GSL as well... I might agree for Rogue who is still top 3, but Dark seemed below Reynor/Serral since his wrist issues / a few months. | ||
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