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Vindicare605
United States16121 Posts
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Argonauta
Spain4967 Posts
On December 06 2020 01:33 Liquid`TLO wrote: Definitely going to monitor closely, we know a few minor bugs, but haven't seen units being destroyed not showing up yet. We'll be happy to update the mod if bugs pop up. Are you behind the tool? Do you know how exactly works? its manually triggered by a user who decides the timespan of the battle? or it buffers in memory the unit lost record of the last X minutes of the match? | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On December 06 2020 01:34 JJH777 wrote: And you say you're not biased towards foreigners in SC2 lmao. What has Maxpax ever done that puts him anywhere near Hurricanes results? Maxpax would not even qualify for ST. Hurricane made the bracket of IEM just this year. Results have nothing to deal with that, they said "level of play". If you didn't notice, MaxPax's first recorded match on Aligulac is from October 2019; he is 16 yo, a true newcomer whose level of play is improving quite fast. MaxPax just started qualifying for international events, he's not supposed to win them: he's supposed to lose against TY. Hurricane, too, is supposed to lose against TY in a more onesided series than their last at ST(when TY was playing BW). I would not say that Hurricane is so much better or far above MaxPax at the moment. | ||
Liquid`TLO
Germany767 Posts
On December 06 2020 01:37 Argonauta wrote: Are you behind the tool? Do you know how exactly works? its manually triggered by a user who decides the timespan of the battle? or it buffers in memory the unit lost record of the last X minutes of the match? It was 100% developed by nice__username but I was in touch with him throughout development and it was my initial idea. It's not triggered manually. It triggers gathering stats as soon as damage is exchanged, then will keep tallying up everything that happens until there's a 9 second period that no damage is dealt. The graphic will stay up for a little while longer after that, even if new damage is dealt then it will keep collecting stats in the background until it ticks over to the next battle. | ||
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irvnasty
United States211 Posts
Went back and watched the MaxPax G1 attack at TY's natural. A cyclone did get killed by phoenixes when it was lifted a second time. I'm still really excited about this feature though. Until now, eyeballing it and watching the resources lost tally are our only way to estimate what was exchanged, and it's usually only large units and air units that are easy to count. This is a really cool project you guys have taken upon yourselves, so thank you for that. EDIT: Okay, I think I'm counting an earlier exchange as part of the fight that you guys weren't, so forget all of this. I misunderstood which interaction it was documenting. My bad. | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4967 Posts
On December 06 2020 01:41 Liquid`TLO wrote: It was 100% developed by nice__username but I was in touch with him throughout development and it was my initial idea. It's not triggered manually. It triggers gathering stats as soon as damage is exchanged, then will keep tallying up everything that happens until there's a 9 second period that no damage is dealt. The graphic will stay up for a little while longer after that, even if new damage is dealt then it will keep collecting stats in the background until it ticks over to the next battle. Thanks for the info. Its a great tool and a great idea you had. Happy to see it materialize | ||
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JJH777
United States4417 Posts
On December 06 2020 01:39 Xain0n wrote: Results have nothing to deal with that, they said "level of play". If you didn't notice, MaxPax's first recorded match on Aligulac is from October 2019; he is 16 yo, a true newcomer whose level of play is improving quite fast. MaxPax just started qualifying for international events, he's not supposed to win them: he's supposed to lose against TY. Hurricane, too, is supposed to lose against TY in a more onesided series than their last at ST(when TY was playing BW). I would not say that Hurricane is so much better or far above MaxPax at the moment. Level of play produces results. Maxpax has no results even in region locked events. He doesn't have to win events to have results. Advancing from a group stage would be something impressive that he hasn't done despite having a bunch of opportunities. Literally the most impressive thing he's done is qualify for ASUS Rog. Even if we are only comparing the last month qualifying for ST is more impressive than qualifying for ASUS Rog. I disagree that Hurricane taking 2 games from TY is not normal. Maybe if it was a Code S playoffs but in everything else that seems completely normal for TY. He's done badly in everything else this year. They were in the same group at IEM and while Hurricane lost the head to head he was the one who got out of the group. | ||
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geokilla
Canada8246 Posts
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
MaxPax #1 Protoss 2021 | ||
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Elentos
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Waxangel
United States33594 Posts
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
On December 06 2020 01:54 Waxangel wrote: How many sons does Rotti have? Goblin, MaxPax, ???? Appearently also Optimistic  | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24238 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
France24238 Posts
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Liquid`TLO
Germany767 Posts
On December 06 2020 01:42 irvnasty wrote: @TLO Went back and watched the MaxPax G1 attack at TY's natural. A cyclone did get killed by phoenixes when it was lifted a second time. I'm still really excited about this feature though. Until now, eyeballing it and watching the resources lost tally are our only way to estimate what was exchanged, and it's usually only large units and air units that are easy to count. This is a really cool project you guys have taken upon yourselves, so thank you for that. EDIT: Okay, I think I'm counting an earlier exchange as part of the fight that you guys weren't, so forget all of this. I misunderstood which interaction it was documenting. My bad. Ah yes that makes sense. There will be a little bit of a learning curve of how to use it perfectly. We had to make sure that when casters bring up the overlay that new damage dealt after a fight doesn't instantly erase it. So if two fights happen very close to each other, sometimes you still have the previous fight up. | ||
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SamirDuran
Philippines895 Posts
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Elentos
55571 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On December 06 2020 01:48 JJH777 wrote: Level of play produces results. Maxpax has no results even in region locked events. He doesn't have to win events to have results. Advancing from a group stage would be something impressive that he hasn't done despite having a bunch of opportunities. Literally the most impressive thing he's done is qualify for ASUS Rog. Even if we are only comparing the last month qualifying for ST is more impressive than qualifying for ASUS Rog. I disagree that Hurricane taking 2 games from TY is not normal. Maybe if it was a Code S playoffs but in everything else that seems completely normal for TY. He's done badly in everything else this year. They were in the same group at IEM and while Hurricane lost the head to head he was the one who got out of the group. Not sure how you missed the extremely relevant point about the fact that very young players like MaxPax usually improve. He hasn't had results because he wasn't good enough yet; now he is starting to be. Do you truly believe that TY vs Hurricane in 2020 should usually end 3-2? Hurricane this year did relatively well at Katowice but had absymal results in Code S, failed to qualify for ST 1 and Code S S2; not to mention that PvT doesn't look like his best matchup. | ||
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Elentos
55571 Posts
On December 06 2020 01:56 [PkF] Wire wrote: I wish breaks between games were a bit shorter I think that time MaxPax went to the bathroom or something, TY was sitting in the lobby for a long time (he's streaming his POV) | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
On December 06 2020 01:56 [PkF] Wire wrote: I wish breaks between games were a bit shorter Just about to say this as well. Drag the night out, Special foreigner taktiks against Koreans? | ||
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