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On December 06 2020 07:17 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2020 07:16 stilt wrote:On December 06 2020 06:37 deacon.frost wrote:On December 06 2020 06:36 StasisField wrote:
If Rogue was Protoss, he'd be the most hated man in all of SC2 sOs back in his prime wasn't hated, was he? Not really but he broke so many hearts when he beat JD... I personnally became a hater after this and the blizzcon 2015 didn't make it better. The JD blizzcon was epic, everybody was so hyped about JD, every JD's game was streamed and in the meantime on the B stream outside the hype sOs was destroying nerds left and right and then killed JD as well and everybody was "surprised" 
JD had beaten Maru in an epic game and Dear who was seen as the big favorite while sOs's games weren't very goods and lacked narratives.
That's like blizzcon 2014, Life beats Taeja in a epic bo5 after beating Zest, most people expected him to beat MMA, which he did.
I wouldn't call it a surprise, I don't think many were (except the game on akilon wastes which JD threw), people were just disappointed and crushed to see how it was done.
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On December 06 2020 07:20 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2020 07:17 deacon.frost wrote:On December 06 2020 07:16 stilt wrote:On December 06 2020 06:37 deacon.frost wrote:On December 06 2020 06:36 StasisField wrote:
If Rogue was Protoss, he'd be the most hated man in all of SC2 sOs back in his prime wasn't hated, was he? Not really but he broke so many hearts when he beat JD... I personnally became a hater after this and the blizzcon 2015 didn't make it better. The JD blizzcon was epic, everybody was so hyped about JD, every JD's game was streamed and in the meantime on the B stream outside the hype sOs was destroying nerds left and right and then killed JD as well and everybody was "surprised" While everyone was hyped about Jaedong, I don't think many people were surprised when Jaedong lost his 5th finals for the year. I was more surprised when he actually won that ASUS event right after Blizzcon.
Aw yeah, people were more surprised it was sOs.
ASUS tourney, wasn't that the tournament where JD was scared by Khaldor?
On December 06 2020 07:21 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2020 07:17 deacon.frost wrote:On December 06 2020 07:16 stilt wrote:On December 06 2020 06:37 deacon.frost wrote:On December 06 2020 06:36 StasisField wrote:
If Rogue was Protoss, he'd be the most hated man in all of SC2 sOs back in his prime wasn't hated, was he? Not really but he broke so many hearts when he beat JD... I personnally became a hater after this and the blizzcon 2015 didn't make it better. The JD blizzcon was epic, everybody was so hyped about JD, every JD's game was streamed and in the meantime on the B stream outside the hype sOs was destroying nerds left and right and then killed JD as well and everybody was "surprised" JD had beaten Maru in an epic game and Dear who was seen as the big favorite while sOs's games weren't very goods and lacked narratives. That's like blizzcon 2014, Life beats Taeja in a epic bo5 after beating Zest, most people expected him to beat MMA, which he did. I wouldn't call it a surprise, I don't think many were (except the game on akilon wastes which JD threw), people were just disappointed and crushed to see how it was done.
JD was a big fan favorite and caster favorite so it was presented as a surprise. The same way some foreign casters tend to favour foreigners.
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On December 06 2020 07:21 Xain0n wrote:
Didn't really expect this series to be end 3-0!
DIE MAUER!!
On the other hand, Showtime's record against korean Terran is so terrible that John Sun would still be the favourite.
Showtime smashed Inno a week ago, that'd be well enough for John Sun.
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On December 06 2020 07:17 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2020 07:16 stilt wrote:On December 06 2020 06:37 deacon.frost wrote:On December 06 2020 06:36 StasisField wrote:
If Rogue was Protoss, he'd be the most hated man in all of SC2 sOs back in his prime wasn't hated, was he? Not really but he broke so many hearts when he beat JD... I personnally became a hater after this and the blizzcon 2015 didn't make it better. The JD blizzcon was epic, everybody was so hyped about JD, every JD's game was streamed and in the meantime on the B stream outside the hype sOs was destroying nerds left and right and then killed JD as well and everybody was "surprised"
I was at that Blizzcon, and the salt levels in the crowd was unlike anything I've ever seen before. The amount of butt hurt nerds that wouldn't even clap for sOs when he got his trophy made me so mad. It still makes me mad to think about it.
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On December 06 2020 07:17 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2020 07:16 stilt wrote:On December 06 2020 06:37 deacon.frost wrote:On December 06 2020 06:36 StasisField wrote:
If Rogue was Protoss, he'd be the most hated man in all of SC2 sOs back in his prime wasn't hated, was he? Not really but he broke so many hearts when he beat JD... I personnally became a hater after this and the blizzcon 2015 didn't make it better. At least in hindsight it's a good thing sOs won 2015 but I'd really much rather have seen Classic take it...
In retrospective (this word exists in english too right ?), for sure yes...
What a heroic effort by Life tho...
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On December 06 2020 07:22 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2020 07:21 Xain0n wrote:
Didn't really expect this series to be end 3-0!
DIE MAUER!!
On the other hand, Showtime's record against korean Terran is so terrible that John Sun would still be the favourite. Showtime smashed Inno a week ago, that'd be well enough for John Sun.
Maybe, a nailbiting 3-2 tho. Showtime's record is truly appalling!
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Most people play from a bedroom Showtime's playing from a gym
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On December 06 2020 07:21 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2020 07:20 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On December 06 2020 07:17 deacon.frost wrote:On December 06 2020 07:16 stilt wrote:On December 06 2020 06:37 deacon.frost wrote:On December 06 2020 06:36 StasisField wrote:
If Rogue was Protoss, he'd be the most hated man in all of SC2 sOs back in his prime wasn't hated, was he? Not really but he broke so many hearts when he beat JD... I personnally became a hater after this and the blizzcon 2015 didn't make it better. The JD blizzcon was epic, everybody was so hyped about JD, every JD's game was streamed and in the meantime on the B stream outside the hype sOs was destroying nerds left and right and then killed JD as well and everybody was "surprised" While everyone was hyped about Jaedong, I don't think many people were surprised when Jaedong lost his 5th finals for the year. I was more surprised when he actually won that ASUS event right after Blizzcon. Aw yeah, people were more surprised it was sOs. ASUS tourney, wasn't that the tournament where JD was scared by Khaldor? Show nested quote +On December 06 2020 07:21 stilt wrote:On December 06 2020 07:17 deacon.frost wrote:On December 06 2020 07:16 stilt wrote:On December 06 2020 06:37 deacon.frost wrote:On December 06 2020 06:36 StasisField wrote:
If Rogue was Protoss, he'd be the most hated man in all of SC2 sOs back in his prime wasn't hated, was he? Not really but he broke so many hearts when he beat JD... I personnally became a hater after this and the blizzcon 2015 didn't make it better. The JD blizzcon was epic, everybody was so hyped about JD, every JD's game was streamed and in the meantime on the B stream outside the hype sOs was destroying nerds left and right and then killed JD as well and everybody was "surprised" JD had beaten Maru in an epic game and Dear who was seen as the big favorite while sOs's games weren't very goods and lacked narratives. That's like blizzcon 2014, Life beats Taeja in a epic bo5 after beating Zest, most people expected him to beat MMA, which he did. I wouldn't call it a surprise, I don't think many were (except the game on akilon wastes which JD threw), people were just disappointed and crushed to see how it was done. JD was a big fan favorite and caster favorite so it was presented as a surprise. The same way some foreign casters tend to favour foreigners.
Haha. Was he really? Khaldor is one intense guy so that can be a bit intimidating.
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On December 06 2020 07:25 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2020 07:22 Elentos wrote:On December 06 2020 07:21 Xain0n wrote:
Didn't really expect this series to be end 3-0!
DIE MAUER!!
On the other hand, Showtime's record against korean Terran is so terrible that John Sun would still be the favourite. Showtime smashed Inno a week ago, that'd be well enough for John Sun. Maybe, a nailbiting 3-2 tho. Showtime's record is truly appalling!
Showtime from ASUS vs full John Sun is an easy 3-0. If any sort of actual TY shows up it gets harder.
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On December 06 2020 07:23 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2020 07:17 deacon.frost wrote:On December 06 2020 07:16 stilt wrote:On December 06 2020 06:37 deacon.frost wrote:On December 06 2020 06:36 StasisField wrote:
If Rogue was Protoss, he'd be the most hated man in all of SC2 sOs back in his prime wasn't hated, was he? Not really but he broke so many hearts when he beat JD... I personnally became a hater after this and the blizzcon 2015 didn't make it better. The JD blizzcon was epic, everybody was so hyped about JD, every JD's game was streamed and in the meantime on the B stream outside the hype sOs was destroying nerds left and right and then killed JD as well and everybody was "surprised" I was at that Blizzcon, and the salt levels in the crowd was unlike anything I've ever seen before. The amount of butt hurt nerds that wouldn't even clap for sOs when he got his trophy made me so mad. It still makes me mad to think about it.
Well, he was being favored by the crew because he was a big fan favorite and he played really well. So it's not that surprising. I just found it hilarious that his unknown dude just arised, did beat JD and pissed everybody Loved that.
On December 06 2020 07:25 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2020 07:21 deacon.frost wrote:On December 06 2020 07:20 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On December 06 2020 07:17 deacon.frost wrote:On December 06 2020 07:16 stilt wrote:On December 06 2020 06:37 deacon.frost wrote:On December 06 2020 06:36 StasisField wrote:
If Rogue was Protoss, he'd be the most hated man in all of SC2 sOs back in his prime wasn't hated, was he? Not really but he broke so many hearts when he beat JD... I personnally became a hater after this and the blizzcon 2015 didn't make it better. The JD blizzcon was epic, everybody was so hyped about JD, every JD's game was streamed and in the meantime on the B stream outside the hype sOs was destroying nerds left and right and then killed JD as well and everybody was "surprised" While everyone was hyped about Jaedong, I don't think many people were surprised when Jaedong lost his 5th finals for the year. I was more surprised when he actually won that ASUS event right after Blizzcon. Aw yeah, people were more surprised it was sOs. ASUS tourney, wasn't that the tournament where JD was scared by Khaldor? On December 06 2020 07:21 stilt wrote:On December 06 2020 07:17 deacon.frost wrote:On December 06 2020 07:16 stilt wrote:On December 06 2020 06:37 deacon.frost wrote:On December 06 2020 06:36 StasisField wrote:
If Rogue was Protoss, he'd be the most hated man in all of SC2 sOs back in his prime wasn't hated, was he? Not really but he broke so many hearts when he beat JD... I personnally became a hater after this and the blizzcon 2015 didn't make it better. The JD blizzcon was epic, everybody was so hyped about JD, every JD's game was streamed and in the meantime on the B stream outside the hype sOs was destroying nerds left and right and then killed JD as well and everybody was "surprised" JD had beaten Maru in an epic game and Dear who was seen as the big favorite while sOs's games weren't very goods and lacked narratives. That's like blizzcon 2014, Life beats Taeja in a epic bo5 after beating Zest, most people expected him to beat MMA, which he did. I wouldn't call it a surprise, I don't think many were (except the game on akilon wastes which JD threw), people were just disappointed and crushed to see how it was done. JD was a big fan favorite and caster favorite so it was presented as a surprise. The same way some foreign casters tend to favour foreigners. Haha. Was he really? Khaldor is one intense guy so that can be a bit intimidating.
Well, JD was setting up the sound or something and Khaldor came from behind and JD was focusing on the PC, so when Khaldor gently touched him, he got a little bit jumpy DAMN CANNOT FIND THE GIF/Video ><
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On December 06 2020 07:25 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2020 07:22 Elentos wrote:On December 06 2020 07:21 Xain0n wrote:
Didn't really expect this series to be end 3-0!
DIE MAUER!!
On the other hand, Showtime's record against korean Terran is so terrible that John Sun would still be the favourite. Showtime smashed Inno a week ago, that'd be well enough for John Sun. Maybe, a nailbiting 3-2 tho. Showtime's record is truly appalling!
Wasn't it a 3-1? Also played some pretty good games vs a in form maru so idk should be good enough.
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Pandemic has made ShoWTimE's german accent even stronger. No chance to travel the world and talk to foreigners in English 
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On December 06 2020 07:26 darklycid wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2020 07:25 Xain0n wrote:On December 06 2020 07:22 Elentos wrote:On December 06 2020 07:21 Xain0n wrote:
Didn't really expect this series to be end 3-0!
DIE MAUER!!
On the other hand, Showtime's record against korean Terran is so terrible that John Sun would still be the favourite. Showtime smashed Inno a week ago, that'd be well enough for John Sun. Maybe, a nailbiting 3-2 tho. Showtime's record is truly appalling! Wasn't it a 3-1? Also played some pretty good games vs a in form maru so idk should be good enough.
Showtime won 3-1 against Inno.
That was the exception, tho; getting 3-0d by Maru who had just gone 3-2 against Harstem is more like his expected performance(sadly).
John Sun has hopes, if TY shows up Showtime is just going down.
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Will souL be the one outing the shouts?
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On December 06 2020 07:30 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2020 07:26 darklycid wrote:On December 06 2020 07:25 Xain0n wrote:On December 06 2020 07:22 Elentos wrote:On December 06 2020 07:21 Xain0n wrote:
Didn't really expect this series to be end 3-0!
DIE MAUER!!
On the other hand, Showtime's record against korean Terran is so terrible that John Sun would still be the favourite. Showtime smashed Inno a week ago, that'd be well enough for John Sun. Maybe, a nailbiting 3-2 tho. Showtime's record is truly appalling! Wasn't it a 3-1? Also played some pretty good games vs a in form maru so idk should be good enough. Showtime won 3-1 against Inno. That was the exception, tho; getting 3-0d by Maru who had just gone 3-2 against Harstem is more like his expected performance(sadly). John Sun has hopes, if TY shows up Showtime is just going down.
The maru that played vs showtime was very different than the one vs harstem i'd say.
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I feel like whenever we have either Reynor or Serral playing against foreigners, we might skipt the games and just give Serral/Reynor the ticket to the next round.
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There is a lil bit of a wealth difference in this game
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this game looked like a 500mmr difference ladder game 
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Reynor won a game where he was down 30k in resources lost on Romanticide, Serral can certainly win this when roughly even in resources lost.
Romanticide is so hard to turtle on since it's so easy for the opponent to take bases that are "meant" for you. On most maps the non-turtling player can be up a base or two--on Romanticide you can be up four.
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On December 06 2020 07:53 Andi_Goldberger wrote:this game looked like a 500mmr difference ladder game
Since Serral is 7.4k on EU, it might be pretty accurate.
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