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Wardi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
England897 Posts
September 30 2020 13:14 GMT
#41
On September 30 2020 22:03 ssg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2020 21:41 Lazzarus wrote:
Liquipedia says:

English Commentators
Netherlands Kozan (Simon Verhoeven)
United States Rushi (Corbet Butler)

Any chance better known commentators are casting (English)? Wardi for example?

Considering hes weirdly crapping on this event on the 1st page I really doubt he's casting it. Anyways I'm excited for it.


Really? XD
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aringadingding
Profile Joined September 2010
479 Posts
September 30 2020 19:31 GMT
#42
On September 29 2020 20:18 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2020 18:54 mierin wrote:
On September 29 2020 07:10 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 29 2020 06:45 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On September 29 2020 06:38 WardiTV wrote:
On September 29 2020 06:29 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Maybe Serral vs. Maru delivers and becomes an actual rivalry, or we can finally put this artificial hype bubble behind us and concentrate on more exciting things - I'd say that's a win-win situation for everybody.

As for the other groups: Exciting stuff - Clem gets to work on his TvT, uThermal gets to bust out the specials once again. Rogue group is quite unpredictable if he snoozes for a game or two, and even if he doesn't the battle for second place will be nice and open. Group D with the Reynor vs. Inno classic and poor Nice getting thrown in there as a reward for a fantastic quali run.


People won't see it as that. If it's bad, people will say "well it's an online tournament Maru doesn't care" and if it's good people will say "xyz lost because of ping" etc. This won't end anything, just add to it :'d


I mean, you know very well that the same thing would happen at BlizzCon or where ever they would meet (jetlaaaaaag!), can't please everybody, especially not the fanboys on both sides looking for excuses. Anyways, Maru qualified for this thing, so I am sure we can put the 'he doesn't care' argument to rest already at least. Maybe that's just easy talking for me, since I don't have a horse in this particular race as a neutral party regarding these two.

It's harder to blame jetlag than ping when both players are on the other side of the Earth and they have to meet at some time. This time it appears the time slot is quite sensitive towards the Korean players. Is it 8 PM Seoul time? (1PM CEST)

Edit> How come this awards points towards the IEM and the GSL Super Tournament #1 didn't? oO Like seriously ><

I wonder which Zerg will get the 30th premiere title for the race in this. I blame Rogue. Uh, select!! Will blame later

On September 29 2020 06:38 WardiTV wrote:
On September 29 2020 06:29 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Maybe Serral vs. Maru delivers and becomes an actual rivalry, or we can finally put this artificial hype bubble behind us and concentrate on more exciting things - I'd say that's a win-win situation for everybody.

As for the other groups: Exciting stuff - Clem gets to work on his TvT, uThermal gets to bust out the specials once again. Rogue group is quite unpredictable if he snoozes for a game or two, and even if he doesn't the battle for second place will be nice and open. Group D with the Reynor vs. Inno classic and poor Nice getting thrown in there as a reward for a fantastic quali run.


People won't see it as that. If it's bad, people will say "well it's an online tournament Maru doesn't care" and if it's good people will say "xyz lost because of ping" etc. This won't end anything, just add to it :'d

Well online has a quite unique position considering the ping is bad and that's an objective statement and it affects races differently.


Prophet Wardi already called it! If anyone else but a Zerg wins the tournament to you it'll be a miracle, and if a Z does win it'll be because of lag. Great!

If zerg wins it's because the chances are zerg will win. 65 % of the premier tournamnet in the last 3 years were won by a zerg. This means other 2 races combined won 35 % So statistically if anybody other thanzerg wins it's amiracle and if zerg wins it's a standard.

Edit> Actually based on the usual scenario, it will be balanced up until finals, where zerg wins in a PvZ, because protoss is the kong race (they have the most 2nd places in the premiere tournamnets out of the all 3 races)

Edit 2> the most unlikely scenario is a Protoss champion and a Terran runner up So place your bets on Trap v TY in them finals xD


Well, its not the most premier of tourneys (but ofc, me being a fan of sc2 since 9 years still love it. Just wanted to mention that), and prize money is not insane, so maybe some of the zergs want to keep their best plays for other tourneys and toss sees an opportunity and go all in, then maybe. MAYBE. a toss might win. But it is still not very likely.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
September 30 2020 22:21 GMT
#43
On September 29 2020 06:07 WardiTV wrote:
The worst possible Serral vs Maru - first game of a tournament, bo3 online group stage. Ahahah it's so bad it fits the narrative :'d

its fitting given how overhyped it is
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LTCM
Profile Joined May 2017
174 Posts
October 01 2020 01:43 GMT
#44
On September 29 2020 06:07 WardiTV wrote:
The worst possible Serral vs Maru - first game of a tournament, bo3 online group stage. Ahahah it's so bad it fits the narrative :'d


The only thing that could make this match worse is if wardi was casting it.

User was warned for this post.
Byun is a convicted match-fixer.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7021 Posts
October 01 2020 07:34 GMT
#45
Love how the pictures in Liquibets are 20 years old rofl
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
October 01 2020 08:34 GMT
#46
On October 01 2020 16:34 Harris1st wrote:
Love how the pictures in Liquibets are 20 years old rofl


Yeah. Never would have thought -4 years old Clem would look like that !
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7021 Posts
October 01 2020 09:28 GMT
#47
On October 01 2020 17:34 MarianoSC2 wrote:
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On October 01 2020 16:34 Harris1st wrote:
Love how the pictures in Liquibets are 20 years old rofl


Yeah. Never would have thought -4 years old Clem would look like that !


You must be fun at parties ...
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4033 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-01 10:26:25
October 01 2020 10:26 GMT
#48
when would people grow up from the Serral / Maru hype ... There is no hype, really, especially in online tournaments. I'm looking forward for Rogue deciding to earn some cash again and become the top SC2 earner.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7021 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-01 11:13:18
October 01 2020 11:12 GMT
#49
According to liquipedia.net Rogue is 11k ahead already

1 South Korea Rogue $ 886,699 USD
2 Finland Serral $ 875,522 USD
3 South Korea Maru $ 862,952 USD

This basically means Rogue is out and Serral or Maru wins. That is a fact and scientifically proven
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
TanksALot
Profile Joined December 2002
United States153 Posts
October 01 2020 15:25 GMT
#50
Why do people have to dump on everything all the time? Is there some other SC2 tournament with many of the top players in the world going on this weekend?
Big up
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
October 01 2020 16:44 GMT
#51
I didn't realize Poland, Taiwan, and Germany were in NA.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-01 18:00:52
October 01 2020 18:00 GMT
#52
On October 01 2020 04:31 aringadingding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2020 20:18 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 29 2020 18:54 mierin wrote:
On September 29 2020 07:10 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 29 2020 06:45 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On September 29 2020 06:38 WardiTV wrote:
On September 29 2020 06:29 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Maybe Serral vs. Maru delivers and becomes an actual rivalry, or we can finally put this artificial hype bubble behind us and concentrate on more exciting things - I'd say that's a win-win situation for everybody.

As for the other groups: Exciting stuff - Clem gets to work on his TvT, uThermal gets to bust out the specials once again. Rogue group is quite unpredictable if he snoozes for a game or two, and even if he doesn't the battle for second place will be nice and open. Group D with the Reynor vs. Inno classic and poor Nice getting thrown in there as a reward for a fantastic quali run.


People won't see it as that. If it's bad, people will say "well it's an online tournament Maru doesn't care" and if it's good people will say "xyz lost because of ping" etc. This won't end anything, just add to it :'d


I mean, you know very well that the same thing would happen at BlizzCon or where ever they would meet (jetlaaaaaag!), can't please everybody, especially not the fanboys on both sides looking for excuses. Anyways, Maru qualified for this thing, so I am sure we can put the 'he doesn't care' argument to rest already at least. Maybe that's just easy talking for me, since I don't have a horse in this particular race as a neutral party regarding these two.

It's harder to blame jetlag than ping when both players are on the other side of the Earth and they have to meet at some time. This time it appears the time slot is quite sensitive towards the Korean players. Is it 8 PM Seoul time? (1PM CEST)

Edit> How come this awards points towards the IEM and the GSL Super Tournament #1 didn't? oO Like seriously ><

I wonder which Zerg will get the 30th premiere title for the race in this. I blame Rogue. Uh, select!! Will blame later

On September 29 2020 06:38 WardiTV wrote:
On September 29 2020 06:29 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Maybe Serral vs. Maru delivers and becomes an actual rivalry, or we can finally put this artificial hype bubble behind us and concentrate on more exciting things - I'd say that's a win-win situation for everybody.

As for the other groups: Exciting stuff - Clem gets to work on his TvT, uThermal gets to bust out the specials once again. Rogue group is quite unpredictable if he snoozes for a game or two, and even if he doesn't the battle for second place will be nice and open. Group D with the Reynor vs. Inno classic and poor Nice getting thrown in there as a reward for a fantastic quali run.


People won't see it as that. If it's bad, people will say "well it's an online tournament Maru doesn't care" and if it's good people will say "xyz lost because of ping" etc. This won't end anything, just add to it :'d

Well online has a quite unique position considering the ping is bad and that's an objective statement and it affects races differently.


Prophet Wardi already called it! If anyone else but a Zerg wins the tournament to you it'll be a miracle, and if a Z does win it'll be because of lag. Great!

If zerg wins it's because the chances are zerg will win. 65 % of the premier tournamnet in the last 3 years were won by a zerg. This means other 2 races combined won 35 % So statistically if anybody other thanzerg wins it's amiracle and if zerg wins it's a standard.

Edit> Actually based on the usual scenario, it will be balanced up until finals, where zerg wins in a PvZ, because protoss is the kong race (they have the most 2nd places in the premiere tournamnets out of the all 3 races)

Edit 2> the most unlikely scenario is a Protoss champion and a Terran runner up So place your bets on Trap v TY in them finals xD


Well, its not the most premier of tourneys (but ofc, me being a fan of sc2 since 9 years still love it. Just wanted to mention that), and prize money is not insane, so maybe some of the zergs want to keep their best plays for other tourneys and toss sees an opportunity and go all in, then maybe. MAYBE. a toss might win. But it is still not very likely.

I wrote in the past 3 years, since having so long zerg one race dominant is slightly weird, isn't it?
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-01 18:17:57
October 01 2020 18:16 GMT
#53
I love how the 3 NA qualifiers are 2 European Protoss and a SEA player lol. What the hell is the point of Region Locking Korea if this is the status quo of the foreign scene?
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
October 01 2020 18:56 GMT
#54
On October 02 2020 03:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
I love how the 3 NA qualifiers are 2 European Protoss and a SEA player lol. What the hell is the point of Region Locking Korea if this is the status quo of the foreign scene?

Because asians are stinky obviously.
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fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4033 Posts
October 01 2020 19:20 GMT
#55
On October 02 2020 03:56 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2020 03:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
I love how the 3 NA qualifiers are 2 European Protoss and a SEA player lol. What the hell is the point of Region Locking Korea if this is the status quo of the foreign scene?

Because asians are stinky obviously.


see I know you are joking, but there are kids reading this forum too, which makes this questionable
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-01 20:35:25
October 01 2020 20:35 GMT
#56
On October 02 2020 04:20 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2020 03:56 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 02 2020 03:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
I love how the 3 NA qualifiers are 2 European Protoss and a SEA player lol. What the hell is the point of Region Locking Korea if this is the status quo of the foreign scene?

Because asians are stinky obviously.


see I know you are joking, but there are kids reading this forum too, which makes this questionable


Give kids more credit, I could understand this type of sarcasm when I was still younger than 10 and based off of the kids I've worked with, so can they.

aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Dedraterllaerau
Profile Joined May 2019
113 Posts
October 01 2020 20:50 GMT
#57
If Serral vs Maru does not make people wanna watch SC2 then I don't know what will :D

Saying that Serral probably stomps him and we will sit there like well that was anti climactic #Zerg
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
October 01 2020 20:58 GMT
#58
On October 02 2020 05:50 Dedraterllaerau wrote:
If Serral vs Maru does not make people wanna watch SC2 then I don't know what will :D

Saying that Serral probably stomps him and we will sit there like well that was anti climactic #Zerg


Cross server Maru vs Serral is not what people want. Offline Serral vs Maru is what people want.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-01 21:24:32
October 01 2020 21:24 GMT
#59
On October 02 2020 05:50 Dedraterllaerau wrote:
If Serral vs Maru does not make people wanna watch SC2 then I don't know what will :D

Saying that Serral probably stomps him and we will sit there like well that was anti climactic #Zerg

No matter how much you hype it 's a TvZ online and cross server. Most wanna see an offline match.

Also betting on a zerg when the majority of tournaments are being won by zerg is really being adventurous! Next time you will cross the road when the green light lights!
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Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States879 Posts
October 01 2020 21:46 GMT
#60
Serral vs. Maru is like George R. R. Martin releasing book 6 of a Song of Ice and Fire. We all really wanted it at some point, but now it's been so long and there's so much other good stuff out there it's hard to get hyped =(
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