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On September 29 2020 07:10 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2020 06:45 TheOneAboveU wrote:On September 29 2020 06:38 WardiTV wrote:On September 29 2020 06:29 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Maybe Serral vs. Maru delivers and becomes an actual rivalry, or we can finally put this artificial hype bubble behind us and concentrate on more exciting things - I'd say that's a win-win situation for everybody.
As for the other groups: Exciting stuff - Clem gets to work on his TvT, uThermal gets to bust out the specials once again. Rogue group is quite unpredictable if he snoozes for a game or two, and even if he doesn't the battle for second place will be nice and open. Group D with the Reynor vs. Inno classic and poor Nice getting thrown in there as a reward for a fantastic quali run. People won't see it as that. If it's bad, people will say "well it's an online tournament Maru doesn't care" and if it's good people will say "xyz lost because of ping" etc. This won't end anything, just add to it :'d I mean, you know very well that the same thing would happen at BlizzCon or where ever they would meet (jetlaaaaaag!), can't please everybody, especially not the fanboys on both sides looking for excuses. Anyways, Maru qualified for this thing, so I am sure we can put the 'he doesn't care' argument to rest already at least. Maybe that's just easy talking for me, since I don't have a horse in this particular race as a neutral party regarding these two. It's harder to blame jetlag than ping when both players are on the other side of the Earth and they have to meet at some time. This time it appears the time slot is quite sensitive towards the Korean players. Is it 8 PM Seoul time? (1PM CEST) Edit> How come this awards points towards the IEM and the GSL Super Tournament #1 didn't? oO Like seriously >< I wonder which Zerg will get the 30th premiere title for the race in this. I blame Rogue. Uh, select!! Will blame later  Show nested quote +On September 29 2020 06:38 WardiTV wrote:On September 29 2020 06:29 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Maybe Serral vs. Maru delivers and becomes an actual rivalry, or we can finally put this artificial hype bubble behind us and concentrate on more exciting things - I'd say that's a win-win situation for everybody.
As for the other groups: Exciting stuff - Clem gets to work on his TvT, uThermal gets to bust out the specials once again. Rogue group is quite unpredictable if he snoozes for a game or two, and even if he doesn't the battle for second place will be nice and open. Group D with the Reynor vs. Inno classic and poor Nice getting thrown in there as a reward for a fantastic quali run. People won't see it as that. If it's bad, people will say "well it's an online tournament Maru doesn't care" and if it's good people will say "xyz lost because of ping" etc. This won't end anything, just add to it :'d Well online has a quite unique position considering the ping is bad and that's an objective statement and it affects races differently.
Prophet Wardi already called it! If anyone else but a Zerg wins the tournament to you it'll be a miracle, and if a Z does win it'll be because of lag. Great!
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On September 29 2020 18:54 mierin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2020 07:10 deacon.frost wrote:On September 29 2020 06:45 TheOneAboveU wrote:On September 29 2020 06:38 WardiTV wrote:On September 29 2020 06:29 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Maybe Serral vs. Maru delivers and becomes an actual rivalry, or we can finally put this artificial hype bubble behind us and concentrate on more exciting things - I'd say that's a win-win situation for everybody.
As for the other groups: Exciting stuff - Clem gets to work on his TvT, uThermal gets to bust out the specials once again. Rogue group is quite unpredictable if he snoozes for a game or two, and even if he doesn't the battle for second place will be nice and open. Group D with the Reynor vs. Inno classic and poor Nice getting thrown in there as a reward for a fantastic quali run. People won't see it as that. If it's bad, people will say "well it's an online tournament Maru doesn't care" and if it's good people will say "xyz lost because of ping" etc. This won't end anything, just add to it :'d I mean, you know very well that the same thing would happen at BlizzCon or where ever they would meet (jetlaaaaaag!), can't please everybody, especially not the fanboys on both sides looking for excuses. Anyways, Maru qualified for this thing, so I am sure we can put the 'he doesn't care' argument to rest already at least. Maybe that's just easy talking for me, since I don't have a horse in this particular race as a neutral party regarding these two. It's harder to blame jetlag than ping when both players are on the other side of the Earth and they have to meet at some time. This time it appears the time slot is quite sensitive towards the Korean players. Is it 8 PM Seoul time? (1PM CEST) Edit> How come this awards points towards the IEM and the GSL Super Tournament #1 didn't? oO Like seriously >< I wonder which Zerg will get the 30th premiere title for the race in this. I blame Rogue. Uh, select!! Will blame later On September 29 2020 06:38 WardiTV wrote:On September 29 2020 06:29 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Maybe Serral vs. Maru delivers and becomes an actual rivalry, or we can finally put this artificial hype bubble behind us and concentrate on more exciting things - I'd say that's a win-win situation for everybody.
As for the other groups: Exciting stuff - Clem gets to work on his TvT, uThermal gets to bust out the specials once again. Rogue group is quite unpredictable if he snoozes for a game or two, and even if he doesn't the battle for second place will be nice and open. Group D with the Reynor vs. Inno classic and poor Nice getting thrown in there as a reward for a fantastic quali run. People won't see it as that. If it's bad, people will say "well it's an online tournament Maru doesn't care" and if it's good people will say "xyz lost because of ping" etc. This won't end anything, just add to it :'d Well online has a quite unique position considering the ping is bad and that's an objective statement and it affects races differently. Prophet Wardi already called it! If anyone else but a Zerg wins the tournament to you it'll be a miracle, and if a Z does win it'll be because of lag. Great!
If zerg wins it's because the chances are zerg will win. 65 % of the premier tournamnet in the last 3 years were won by a zerg. This means other 2 races combined won 35 %  So statistically if anybody other thanzerg wins it's amiracle and if zerg wins it's a standard.
Edit> Actually based on the usual scenario, it will be balanced up until finals, where zerg wins in a PvZ, because protoss is the kong race (they have the most 2nd places in the premiere tournamnets out of the all 3 races)
Edit 2> the most unlikely scenario is a Protoss champion and a Terran runner up So place your bets on Trap v TY in them finals xD
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On September 29 2020 20:18 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2020 18:54 mierin wrote:On September 29 2020 07:10 deacon.frost wrote:On September 29 2020 06:45 TheOneAboveU wrote:On September 29 2020 06:38 WardiTV wrote:On September 29 2020 06:29 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Maybe Serral vs. Maru delivers and becomes an actual rivalry, or we can finally put this artificial hype bubble behind us and concentrate on more exciting things - I'd say that's a win-win situation for everybody.
As for the other groups: Exciting stuff - Clem gets to work on his TvT, uThermal gets to bust out the specials once again. Rogue group is quite unpredictable if he snoozes for a game or two, and even if he doesn't the battle for second place will be nice and open. Group D with the Reynor vs. Inno classic and poor Nice getting thrown in there as a reward for a fantastic quali run. People won't see it as that. If it's bad, people will say "well it's an online tournament Maru doesn't care" and if it's good people will say "xyz lost because of ping" etc. This won't end anything, just add to it :'d I mean, you know very well that the same thing would happen at BlizzCon or where ever they would meet (jetlaaaaaag!), can't please everybody, especially not the fanboys on both sides looking for excuses. Anyways, Maru qualified for this thing, so I am sure we can put the 'he doesn't care' argument to rest already at least. Maybe that's just easy talking for me, since I don't have a horse in this particular race as a neutral party regarding these two. It's harder to blame jetlag than ping when both players are on the other side of the Earth and they have to meet at some time. This time it appears the time slot is quite sensitive towards the Korean players. Is it 8 PM Seoul time? (1PM CEST) Edit> How come this awards points towards the IEM and the GSL Super Tournament #1 didn't? oO Like seriously >< I wonder which Zerg will get the 30th premiere title for the race in this. I blame Rogue. Uh, select!! Will blame later On September 29 2020 06:38 WardiTV wrote:On September 29 2020 06:29 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Maybe Serral vs. Maru delivers and becomes an actual rivalry, or we can finally put this artificial hype bubble behind us and concentrate on more exciting things - I'd say that's a win-win situation for everybody.
As for the other groups: Exciting stuff - Clem gets to work on his TvT, uThermal gets to bust out the specials once again. Rogue group is quite unpredictable if he snoozes for a game or two, and even if he doesn't the battle for second place will be nice and open. Group D with the Reynor vs. Inno classic and poor Nice getting thrown in there as a reward for a fantastic quali run. People won't see it as that. If it's bad, people will say "well it's an online tournament Maru doesn't care" and if it's good people will say "xyz lost because of ping" etc. This won't end anything, just add to it :'d Well online has a quite unique position considering the ping is bad and that's an objective statement and it affects races differently. Prophet Wardi already called it! If anyone else but a Zerg wins the tournament to you it'll be a miracle, and if a Z does win it'll be because of lag. Great! If zerg wins it's because the chances are zerg will win. 65 % of the premier tournamnet in the last 3 years were won by a zerg. This means other 2 races combined won 35 % So statistically if anybody other thanzerg wins it's amiracle and if zerg wins it's a standard. Edit> Actually based on the usual scenario, it will be balanced up until finals, where zerg wins in a PvZ, because protoss is the kong race (they have the most 2nd places in the premiere tournamnets out of the all 3 races) Edit 2> the most unlikely scenario is a Protoss champion and a Terran runner up So place your bets on Trap v TY in them finals xD
Doesn't help that the only Protoss with a realistic shot at winning is in the same group as Maru and Serral.
But if he survives this group, he might as well go all the way
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On September 29 2020 20:41 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2020 20:18 deacon.frost wrote:On September 29 2020 18:54 mierin wrote:On September 29 2020 07:10 deacon.frost wrote:On September 29 2020 06:45 TheOneAboveU wrote:On September 29 2020 06:38 WardiTV wrote:On September 29 2020 06:29 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Maybe Serral vs. Maru delivers and becomes an actual rivalry, or we can finally put this artificial hype bubble behind us and concentrate on more exciting things - I'd say that's a win-win situation for everybody.
As for the other groups: Exciting stuff - Clem gets to work on his TvT, uThermal gets to bust out the specials once again. Rogue group is quite unpredictable if he snoozes for a game or two, and even if he doesn't the battle for second place will be nice and open. Group D with the Reynor vs. Inno classic and poor Nice getting thrown in there as a reward for a fantastic quali run. People won't see it as that. If it's bad, people will say "well it's an online tournament Maru doesn't care" and if it's good people will say "xyz lost because of ping" etc. This won't end anything, just add to it :'d I mean, you know very well that the same thing would happen at BlizzCon or where ever they would meet (jetlaaaaaag!), can't please everybody, especially not the fanboys on both sides looking for excuses. Anyways, Maru qualified for this thing, so I am sure we can put the 'he doesn't care' argument to rest already at least. Maybe that's just easy talking for me, since I don't have a horse in this particular race as a neutral party regarding these two. It's harder to blame jetlag than ping when both players are on the other side of the Earth and they have to meet at some time. This time it appears the time slot is quite sensitive towards the Korean players. Is it 8 PM Seoul time? (1PM CEST) Edit> How come this awards points towards the IEM and the GSL Super Tournament #1 didn't? oO Like seriously >< I wonder which Zerg will get the 30th premiere title for the race in this. I blame Rogue. Uh, select!! Will blame later On September 29 2020 06:38 WardiTV wrote:On September 29 2020 06:29 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Maybe Serral vs. Maru delivers and becomes an actual rivalry, or we can finally put this artificial hype bubble behind us and concentrate on more exciting things - I'd say that's a win-win situation for everybody.
As for the other groups: Exciting stuff - Clem gets to work on his TvT, uThermal gets to bust out the specials once again. Rogue group is quite unpredictable if he snoozes for a game or two, and even if he doesn't the battle for second place will be nice and open. Group D with the Reynor vs. Inno classic and poor Nice getting thrown in there as a reward for a fantastic quali run. People won't see it as that. If it's bad, people will say "well it's an online tournament Maru doesn't care" and if it's good people will say "xyz lost because of ping" etc. This won't end anything, just add to it :'d Well online has a quite unique position considering the ping is bad and that's an objective statement and it affects races differently. Prophet Wardi already called it! If anyone else but a Zerg wins the tournament to you it'll be a miracle, and if a Z does win it'll be because of lag. Great! If zerg wins it's because the chances are zerg will win. 65 % of the premier tournamnet in the last 3 years were won by a zerg. This means other 2 races combined won 35 % So statistically if anybody other thanzerg wins it's amiracle and if zerg wins it's a standard. Edit> Actually based on the usual scenario, it will be balanced up until finals, where zerg wins in a PvZ, because protoss is the kong race (they have the most 2nd places in the premiere tournamnets out of the all 3 races) Edit 2> the most unlikely scenario is a Protoss champion and a Terran runner up So place your bets on Trap v TY in them finals xD Doesn't help that the only Protoss with a realistic shot at winning is in the same group as Maru and Serral. But if he survives this group, he might as well go all the way
All the way to a Bo7 with Reynor where it's the end of the road again because he used up all his PvZ mojo to beat Serral in a Bo5.
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Liquipedia says:
English Commentators
Netherlands Kozan (Simon Verhoeven)
United States Rushi (Corbet Butler)
Any chance better known commentators are casting (English)? Wardi for example?
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On September 29 2020 21:41 Lazzarus wrote:
Liquipedia says:
English Commentators
Netherlands Kozan (Simon Verhoeven)
United States Rushi (Corbet Butler)
Any chance better known commentators are casting (English)? Wardi for example?
ZombieGrub will be co casting two of the days! On the 6th and 8th!
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On September 29 2020 21:41 Lazzarus wrote:
Liquipedia says:
English Commentators
Netherlands Kozan (Simon Verhoeven)
United States Rushi (Corbet Butler)
Any chance better known commentators are casting (English)? Wardi for example?
I love Wardi! But it's also nice to give some new guys on the block a chance to shine <3
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On September 29 2020 21:41 Lazzarus wrote:
Liquipedia says:
English Commentators
Netherlands Kozan (Simon Verhoeven)
United States Rushi (Corbet Butler)
Any chance better known commentators are casting (English)? Wardi for example?
Give them a chance, I followed the qualifiers, they were doing fine.
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Yeah I loved the two new commentators, always fun to have new voices who are also pretty good
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Don't forget this is an AlphaX event and so they probably prefer to use their own casters too.
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Isn t Creighton an AX caster as well?
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I personally love Kozan and Rushi's casing. They are also part of the alphaX crew. Since this is an Alpha X tournament, it makes sense for them to use their own.
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Serral vs Maru...I'll see it when I believe it. Neither dominates as much as they did back in '18 so I feel like the boat has partly sailed on this one, but boy it'd still be nice.
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On September 30 2020 17:17 fealx wrote:
Maru 0-4 incoming
Certainly not cause the group isn't Bo3 every match.
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On September 30 2020 17:32 Elentos wrote:Certainly not cause the group isn't Bo3 every match.
Maybe he means 0-4 into 6-4 comeback
Fun fact Maru has never won an online tournament on AM/EU server
All his 8 wins on asian servers are:
2012 1 Kung Fu Cup
2013 1 Asia Starcraft League
2014 3 Leifeng Cup
2015 1 OlimoLeague Week
2017 2 Ballistix Brawl Week
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On September 30 2020 18:29 DiMano wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2020 17:32 Elentos wrote:On September 30 2020 17:17 fealx wrote:
Maru 0-4 incoming Certainly not cause the group isn't Bo3 every match. Maybe he means 0-4 into 6-4 comeback Fun fact Maru has never won an online tournament on AM/EU server All his 8 wins on asian servers are: 2012 1 Kung Fu Cup 2013 1 Asia Starcraft League 2014 3 Leifeng Cup 2015 1 OlimoLeague Week 2017 2 Ballistix Brawl Week
Well that doesn t mean he s utter garbage with ping, as he dominated the NA Server qualifiers for Katowice 2020 and 2019.
Obviously not as hard as actually winning a meaningfull tournament, but he can beat insanely good players cross sever.
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On September 29 2020 20:41 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2020 20:18 deacon.frost wrote:On September 29 2020 18:54 mierin wrote:On September 29 2020 07:10 deacon.frost wrote:On September 29 2020 06:45 TheOneAboveU wrote:On September 29 2020 06:38 WardiTV wrote:On September 29 2020 06:29 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Maybe Serral vs. Maru delivers and becomes an actual rivalry, or we can finally put this artificial hype bubble behind us and concentrate on more exciting things - I'd say that's a win-win situation for everybody.
As for the other groups: Exciting stuff - Clem gets to work on his TvT, uThermal gets to bust out the specials once again. Rogue group is quite unpredictable if he snoozes for a game or two, and even if he doesn't the battle for second place will be nice and open. Group D with the Reynor vs. Inno classic and poor Nice getting thrown in there as a reward for a fantastic quali run. People won't see it as that. If it's bad, people will say "well it's an online tournament Maru doesn't care" and if it's good people will say "xyz lost because of ping" etc. This won't end anything, just add to it :'d I mean, you know very well that the same thing would happen at BlizzCon or where ever they would meet (jetlaaaaaag!), can't please everybody, especially not the fanboys on both sides looking for excuses. Anyways, Maru qualified for this thing, so I am sure we can put the 'he doesn't care' argument to rest already at least. Maybe that's just easy talking for me, since I don't have a horse in this particular race as a neutral party regarding these two. It's harder to blame jetlag than ping when both players are on the other side of the Earth and they have to meet at some time. This time it appears the time slot is quite sensitive towards the Korean players. Is it 8 PM Seoul time? (1PM CEST) Edit> How come this awards points towards the IEM and the GSL Super Tournament #1 didn't? oO Like seriously >< I wonder which Zerg will get the 30th premiere title for the race in this. I blame Rogue. Uh, select!! Will blame later On September 29 2020 06:38 WardiTV wrote:On September 29 2020 06:29 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Maybe Serral vs. Maru delivers and becomes an actual rivalry, or we can finally put this artificial hype bubble behind us and concentrate on more exciting things - I'd say that's a win-win situation for everybody.
As for the other groups: Exciting stuff - Clem gets to work on his TvT, uThermal gets to bust out the specials once again. Rogue group is quite unpredictable if he snoozes for a game or two, and even if he doesn't the battle for second place will be nice and open. Group D with the Reynor vs. Inno classic and poor Nice getting thrown in there as a reward for a fantastic quali run. People won't see it as that. If it's bad, people will say "well it's an online tournament Maru doesn't care" and if it's good people will say "xyz lost because of ping" etc. This won't end anything, just add to it :'d Well online has a quite unique position considering the ping is bad and that's an objective statement and it affects races differently. Prophet Wardi already called it! If anyone else but a Zerg wins the tournament to you it'll be a miracle, and if a Z does win it'll be because of lag. Great! If zerg wins it's because the chances are zerg will win. 65 % of the premier tournamnet in the last 3 years were won by a zerg. This means other 2 races combined won 35 % So statistically if anybody other thanzerg wins it's amiracle and if zerg wins it's a standard. Edit> Actually based on the usual scenario, it will be balanced up until finals, where zerg wins in a PvZ, because protoss is the kong race (they have the most 2nd places in the premiere tournamnets out of the all 3 races) Edit 2> the most unlikely scenario is a Protoss champion and a Terran runner up So place your bets on Trap v TY in them finals xD Doesn't help that the only Protoss with a realistic shot at winning is in the same group as Maru and Serral. But if he survives this group, he might as well go all the way
It's a JAGW team kill so technically anything can happen.
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On September 29 2020 21:41 Lazzarus wrote:
Liquipedia says:
English Commentators
Netherlands Kozan (Simon Verhoeven)
United States Rushi (Corbet Butler)
Any chance better known commentators are casting (English)? Wardi for example?
Considering hes weirdly crapping on this event on the 1st page I really doubt he's casting it. Anyways I'm excited for it.
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On September 30 2020 22:03 ssg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2020 21:41 Lazzarus wrote:
Liquipedia says:
English Commentators
Netherlands Kozan (Simon Verhoeven)
United States Rushi (Corbet Butler)
Any chance better known commentators are casting (English)? Wardi for example? Considering hes weirdly crapping on this event on the 1st page I really doubt he's casting it. Anyways I'm excited for it.
Lol what? He just said, like everyone else mind you, that the everhyped Maru-Serral match is finally here and under the worst possible circumstances
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