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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12133 Posts
September 20 2020 17:58 GMT
#1681
On September 21 2020 02:56 Tyrhanius wrote:
It was wierd i wacthed Trap winning fights, on the other side i've seen the supply really in favor of Reynor, maybe miss macro from Trap, too much dmg from runbies or Reynor was not fighting with his whole army.

Because he had a good eco for so long and Trap went for a gas heavy army and moved out too soon, he didn't have enough archons or he didn't realize he's against mass banes, all in all he didn't had the force fields needed and gas to support them archons.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
September 20 2020 17:59 GMT
#1682
On September 21 2020 02:53 Swisslink wrote:
I think there was some miscontrol by Trap in the one push. He warped in a bunch of Zealots and immediately suicided all into a few Banelings. I don't know if it really changed the outcome of the game, but it definitely didn't help there.


Yeah that, and everything going on today so far nicely sums up all the issues in PvZ.
Slight miscontrol by protoss and the game just ends. And we are talking about 6 zealots here lol. Meanwhile Zerg can gift 50 banes almost for free cause he is already making 60 new ones behind it. Zerg loses 2 or 3 big fights, does not matter just remaxes. Toss loses 6 units and is dead :D
And its not like Trap is playing passive he did decent damage with his oracle play every game. His army control, positioning and micro is stellar as well. I just dont see how you can beat a top Zerg (as toss) without some adept BS or the Zerg completely screwing up the game
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
September 20 2020 17:59 GMT
#1683
On September 21 2020 02:53 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2020 02:52 Vindicare605 wrote:
On September 21 2020 02:50 Zzzapper wrote:
On September 21 2020 02:49 Vindicare605 wrote:
On September 21 2020 02:48 Zzzapper wrote:
bane nerf just saved 2 colossi


You call it a nerf, I call it reverting a buff that was never necessary in the first place.

what are you talking about? banes always did 20 damage against non-light??


If that's the case then where's the nerf to be complained about?

Do you really think an extra 5 health would have changed anything here? I don't.

What are you talking about? I mean, sure, banes were 15+20 in WoL beta, but i doubt you remember that.


Sure I've only made dozens of videos about WoL. Of course I can't remember stat differences for Banelings.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
September 20 2020 17:59 GMT
#1684
On September 21 2020 02:57 Xamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2020 02:53 Swisslink wrote:
I think there was some miscontrol by Trap in the one push. He warped in a bunch of Zealots and immediately suicided all into a few Banelings. I don't know if it really changed the outcome of the game, but it definitely didn't help there.

Meanwhile, Reynor threw away two complete armies including infinity banes but he's ok.

Lings, Banes, Roaches and Ravagers while being on 80 Drones against Archons, Immortals and Colossi that aren't easy to reproduce. Also Trap lost a ton of probes and just couldn't keep up with Zerg production anymore.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
September 20 2020 17:59 GMT
#1685
i think this is ideal for a dt rush
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
September 20 2020 18:00 GMT
#1686
The scariest Creep Tumour .
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
September 20 2020 18:00 GMT
#1687
On September 21 2020 02:56 Tyrhanius wrote:
It was wierd i wacthed Trap winning fights, on the other side i've seen the supply really in favor of Reynor, maybe miss macro from Trap, too much dmg from runbies or Reynor was not fighting with his whole army.


Love it or hate it, that's how Zerg wins. Expand and drone up faster than you're losing bases, counter-attack faster than the the enemy can push.
gg no re thx
neveranexit
Profile Joined July 2018
14 Posts
September 20 2020 18:00 GMT
#1688
On September 21 2020 02:59 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2020 02:53 Swisslink wrote:
I think there was some miscontrol by Trap in the one push. He warped in a bunch of Zealots and immediately suicided all into a few Banelings. I don't know if it really changed the outcome of the game, but it definitely didn't help there.


Yeah that, and everything going on today so far nicely sums up all the issues in PvZ.
Slight miscontrol by protoss and the game just ends. And we are talking about 6 zealots here lol. Meanwhile Zerg can gift 50 banes almost for free cause he is already making 60 new ones behind it. Zerg loses 2 or 3 big fights, does not matter just remaxes. Toss loses 6 units and is dead :D
And its not like Trap is playing passive he did decent damage with his oracle play every game. His army control, positioning and micro is stellar as well. I just dont see how you can beat a top Zerg (as toss) without some adept BS or the Zerg completely screwing up the game


The Zerg shillery in this community is out of control and delusional. I can't wait until Protoss literally plays a perfect game and still loses. I want to hear what they have to say.
aringadingding
Profile Joined September 2010
481 Posts
September 20 2020 18:00 GMT
#1689
This final is too fucking painful to watch. It must be horrible to be Trap.
greenturtle23
Profile Joined August 2019
86 Posts
September 20 2020 18:02 GMT
#1690
Protosses and Terrans really need to step up their games. Zergs having been outplaying them the last 5 years.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
September 20 2020 18:02 GMT
#1691
Should've 4gated .
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
September 20 2020 18:02 GMT
#1692
On September 21 2020 03:00 aringadingding wrote:
This final is too fucking painful to watch. It must be horrible to be Trap.


What else is new though? He falls apart vs Zerg. Always has.

Whoever made that claim (Wax) that he had the best PvZ rate in the GSL obviously forgot about all of that.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
September 20 2020 18:03 GMT
#1693
The game seems so bad for Trap, but actually Reynor is not really ahead and the oracles are alive.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9224 Posts
September 20 2020 18:05 GMT
#1694
Same worker count. Trap is doing it!
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
aringadingding
Profile Joined September 2010
481 Posts
September 20 2020 18:06 GMT
#1695
On September 21 2020 03:02 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2020 03:00 aringadingding wrote:
This final is too fucking painful to watch. It must be horrible to be Trap.


What else is new though? He falls apart vs Zerg. Always has.

Whoever made that claim (Wax) that he had the best PvZ rate in the GSL obviously forgot about all of that.

A protoss falling apart against a Zerg at a premier tournament? This is unheard of! It must be something unique.... or... wait...
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
September 20 2020 18:06 GMT
#1696
On September 21 2020 03:02 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2020 03:00 aringadingding wrote:
This final is too fucking painful to watch. It must be horrible to be Trap.


What else is new though? He falls apart vs Zerg. Always has.

Whoever made that claim (Wax) that he had the best PvZ rate in the GSL obviously forgot about all of that.



Since when he falls apart vs zerg? Trap PvZ has beeen really high since always.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
September 20 2020 18:07 GMT
#1697
Psh. remind me, the closest Trap has ever been to a finals what did that look like?

I have 0 faith in Trap's ability to beat top tier Zerg.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
September 20 2020 18:08 GMT
#1698
If Reynor wins even this game I am never watching a ZvP final ever again... Too painful
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 20 2020 18:08 GMT
#1699
Trap is so sick
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1798 Posts
September 20 2020 18:08 GMT
#1700
On September 21 2020 03:06 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2020 03:02 Vindicare605 wrote:
On September 21 2020 03:00 aringadingding wrote:
This final is too fucking painful to watch. It must be horrible to be Trap.


What else is new though? He falls apart vs Zerg. Always has.

Whoever made that claim (Wax) that he had the best PvZ rate in the GSL obviously forgot about all of that.



Since when he falls apart vs zerg? Trap PvZ has beeen really high since always.

He definitely had a streak of poor performances against zerg from some time last year until a few months ago
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