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Elentos
55587 Posts
On September 20 2020 02:06 lolfail9001 wrote: True, but the textbook 8 rax i have seen thus far were 2-2 with 3 tanks, not 1-1 with 1 and another in rally. Well he would have had 3 tanks if he didn't lose 2 to lings. I guess he wanted to hit earlier so he didn't commit to the upgrades. I don't know that he had 8 rax actually since he only made like 11 marines max at a time. | ||
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Calliope
297 Posts
On September 20 2020 02:05 JJH777 wrote: I hate how quickly games can fall apart for both Terran and Protoss. TY was ahead about 30 seconds before he died. Yes, the Z matchups have to be the most volatile. When a player looks away a whole army can be lost to banelings. It is the same with for example baneling drops from OLs or banes erasing expansions. Liberators/oracles/medivacs/mines never cause such instant annihilation of armies or bases. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
To prevent early ghost rushes, you can make it an upgrade at the ghost academy, that can only be researched after a fusion core is made? Is it insane? Probably. Do I still want to see how it impacts the metagame? Hell yea | ||
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slant
Romania95 Posts
On September 20 2020 02:08 Calliope wrote: When a player looks away a whole army can be lost to banelings. Can terrans stop using this as a whining point? This is the same for every race. If zerg looks away a whole army can be lost to one mine. Disruptors can annihilate most armies also. | ||
Waxangel
United States33660 Posts
On September 20 2020 02:08 Calliope wrote: Yes, the Z matchups have to be the most volatile. When a player looks away a whole army can be lost to banelings. It is the same with for example baneling drops from OLs or banes erasing expansions. Liberators/oracles/medivacs/mines never cause such instant annihilation of armies or bases. that's any strategy that hinges on a few expensive units--you lose them you lose. whether it's a tank push for Terran or an Immortal-based timing for Protoss. The same applies for Zerg, except they only get Ultraliaks after the 10 minute mark  | ||
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Elentos
55587 Posts
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sneakyfox
8217 Posts
On September 20 2020 02:09 Bagration wrote: Crazy idea - but what if Blizz gives Terran a lategame upgrade for ghosts that allows them to use stim? Take away 20 hp (or 25 energy?) from a ghost for the 50% boost To prevent early ghost rushes, you can make it an upgrade at the ghost academy, that can only be researched after a fusion core is made? Is it insane? Probably. Do I still want to see how it impacts the metagame? Hell yea I would prefer if we just try out a Snipe that isn't cancelled just because the ghost takes damage. | ||
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rayl991
Afghanistan80 Posts
On September 20 2020 02:09 slant wrote: Can terrans stop using this as a whining point? This is the same for every race. If zerg looks away a whole army can be lost to one mine. Disruptors can annihilate most armies also. Unlike other races, zerg can remax instantly. Not to mention mines has an rng element to it | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On September 20 2020 02:11 Elentos wrote: Poor Korean Terrans man. They can't even proxy rax anymore because Zergs are hyper aware enough to drone scout for it. That's gotta be a severe drop in win rates. And result of that is that Zergs in this tournament don't even bother scouting for proxy rax and Terrans don't do it anyway. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
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Lexender
Mexico2661 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On September 20 2020 02:11 sneakyfox wrote: I would prefer if we just try out a Snipe that isn't cancelled just because the ghost takes damage. That removes counterplay though. Just nerf zerg stuff instead. | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
In BW, hydras and mutas are rather OP-ish in bulk. But if Zerg push out, they're vulnerable at home. The only defence is sunken - which costs a lot of money. Terran can deflect a hydra/muta death ball by threatening a doom drop. So it's quite balanced. Zergs in SC2 just have too much flexibility and fail-safes, IMO. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On September 20 2020 02:15 ZigguratOfUr wrote: That removes counterplay though. Just nerf zerg stuff instead. Abduct applies interrupt (if it does not already?), here's your counterplay. | ||
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Calliope
297 Posts
On September 20 2020 02:09 slant wrote: Can terrans stop using this as a whining point? This is the same for every race. If zerg looks away a whole army can be lost to one mine. Disruptors can annihilate most armies also. I am not a terran but a zerg. Terrans seem to complain much more about disruptors but I think the TvP matchup seems to be in a pretty good spot. And no, saying it is the same for all races is a false equivalence and a reductionist way of talking about racial differences in this game. Mines do not erase whole armies by far as often or to the extent that whole armies and expansions are regularly deleted by banes. | ||
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Solio
France145 Posts
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Lexender
Mexico2661 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
Nvm it seems impossible to get past 4 bases as Terran on this map lol | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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