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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-11 17:56:47
September 11 2020 17:56 GMT
#1

GSL Code S


Saturday, Sep 12 4:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)

(Wiki)Global StarCraft II League/2020/Season 3

Streams & Casters


uk Afreeca | uk YouTube

Artosis - Tasteless

Format

  • Group Stage #1 (Round of 24): Dual Tournament Format.

  • All matches are Bo3.

      Map Pool



Group E


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(T)INnoVation vs (P)Hurricane
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(P)Zoun vs (Z)soO

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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 11 2020 17:57 GMT
#2
Poll: Who Advances?

INnoVation & soO (15)
 
63%

INnoVation & Zoun (3)
 
13%

Hurricane & INnoVation (3)
 
13%

soO & Hurricane (1)
 
4%

Zoun & Hurricane (1)
 
4%

soO & Zoun (1)
 
4%

24 total votes

Your vote: Who Advances?

(Vote): INnoVation & Zoun
(Vote): soO & Hurricane
(Vote): Zoun & Hurricane
(Vote): INnoVation & soO
(Vote): Hurricane & INnoVation
(Vote): soO & Zoun

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ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1704 Posts
September 11 2020 20:37 GMT
#3
I was gonna say zero chance Hurricane gets out

But after Armani got out.. who knows
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Niravroh
Profile Joined August 2020
165 Posts
September 12 2020 00:55 GMT
#4
I was really unimpressed with soO's performance last GSL. I think soO has had enough consistency to warrant the respect to predict INnoVation soO as the favorites though. That being said, I hope something was just off about him last time, and he'll return to his usual standard of play this season. If we're going to have only zerg players win, we'll need some more to give Rogue a challenge lol.
WTCO
Profile Joined September 2013
United States646 Posts
September 12 2020 01:16 GMT
#5
Pls advance soO
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
September 12 2020 01:30 GMT
#6
On September 12 2020 05:37 ShowTheLights wrote:
I was gonna say zero chance Hurricane gets out

But after Armani got out.. who knows

I honestly thought the last group was the easiest group to call and picked Cure and Armani as soon as groups were announced lol. I'd say this group is a little harder though. Still, this should be Inno/soO or inno/Hurricane imo.
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
jjmmtt
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
September 12 2020 02:38 GMT
#7
Cmon soO, you gotta be able to get out of THIS group. Sneaking suspicion it's going to be Innovation and Hurricane advancing but I hope soO proves me wrong.
serendipitous
Profile Joined November 2017
Canada195 Posts
September 12 2020 04:11 GMT
#8
1 reaper for 4 probes, wow
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 04:12:24
September 12 2020 04:11 GMT
#9
4 probes lost to the reaper. Yeah that just about sets the tone for INno vs Hurricane.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 12 2020 04:27 GMT
#10
That game 2 is... entertaining.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 04:30:28
September 12 2020 04:28 GMT
#11
With all the protosses losing to a medivac and four hellions, INno has to pay them back by losing to a warp prism and four zealots.

Also INno's engagements weren't so hot even in the game he won. The heavy widow mine count didn't pay off. He'll need to do better if he wants to beat soO.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 12 2020 04:30 GMT
#12
Right, it never hit me before, what's up with regards to Inno's military?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 04:31:51
September 12 2020 04:30 GMT
#13
Hurricane was really good with his vision and WP harass, whenever he saw innovation moving out he dropped in the main
Idk about Innovation's widow-mine play, they were always too far ahead of the main army or not spread out enough.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
September 12 2020 04:31 GMT
#14
On September 12 2020 13:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
With all the protosses losing to a medivac and four hellions, INno has to pay them back by losing to a warp prism and four zealots.

If I have to watch Protosses scout it with their phoenix opening and still lose 12 probes, it's only fair
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7389 Posts
September 12 2020 04:31 GMT
#15
Pull through Hurricane, do eet
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
serendipitous
Profile Joined November 2017
Canada195 Posts
September 12 2020 04:32 GMT
#16
On September 12 2020 13:30 lolfail9001 wrote:
Right, it never hit me before, what's up with regards to Inno's military?

Well soO was born in 1992, Inno in 1993. So I assume he'll have to go next year
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 12 2020 04:39 GMT
#17
These pushes from INno are weird. No tanks at all and 10 widow mines?

It worked this time, but dunno if they're that good. Having tanks just seems scarier.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 04:40:24
September 12 2020 04:40 GMT
#18
Going fast 3 nexus behind tech vs Innovation, Maru, and Dream just seems like suicide but what do I know
¯\_(シ)_/¯
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 12 2020 04:40 GMT
#19
On September 12 2020 13:39 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
These pushes from INno are weird. No tanks at all and 10 widow mines?

It worked this time, but dunno if they're that good. Having tanks just seems scarier.


Well, widow mines seem to do their job of removing zealots from equation.
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 04:56:31
September 12 2020 04:56 GMT
#20
So that's the build PartinG wanted to try against Serral, did i get that right?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
jjmmtt
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
September 12 2020 04:56 GMT
#21
Welp, soO is losing to Zoun...
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 04:57:23
September 12 2020 04:57 GMT
#22
Two base speedprism disruptor, one colossus 2 base all-in sounds like a strange Korean ladder bs build. I like it.
Niravroh
Profile Joined August 2020
165 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 04:57:20
September 12 2020 04:57 GMT
#23
How should a zerg react to this?
Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States837 Posts
September 12 2020 04:58 GMT
#24
Loved the attack by Zoun, seemed to handle the whole buildup decently as well. 2-1 Zoun gogo
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 12 2020 04:59 GMT
#25
On September 12 2020 13:57 Niravroh wrote:
How should a zerg react to this?


Control better. It's just a colossus without thermal, a few disruptors and gateway units.

You might also be able to cut some drones to make holding it easier.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
September 12 2020 05:02 GMT
#26
Come on, Soo......might be your last tourney.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7389 Posts
September 12 2020 05:03 GMT
#27
Hero Zoun?! Here to make my Protoss feel bads go away?
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 05:08:06
September 12 2020 05:06 GMT
#28
This seems so annoying to play against, i'm kinda into it lol
I'm guessing Zoun was originally going for a mass adept timing, but he ended up doing so much damage with his first wave that he went into macro
Some pretty slick micro too
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7389 Posts
September 12 2020 05:07 GMT
#29
Zoun looked very solid there, maybe he beats Inno and I can be happy for once
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33503 Posts
September 12 2020 05:08 GMT
#30
On September 12 2020 13:39 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
These pushes from INno are weird. No tanks at all and 10 widow mines?

It worked this time, but dunno if they're that good. Having tanks just seems scarier.


Ice and Chrome has the tank-siege spot with rocks which makes it a more 'obvious' tank map
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 12 2020 05:08 GMT
#31
Nice stuff from Zoun. He looked a bit like PartinG there.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33503 Posts
September 12 2020 05:10 GMT
#32
On September 12 2020 14:07 Zambrah wrote:
Zoun looked very solid there, maybe he beats Inno and I can be happy for once


Zoun, the SKT benchwarmer when INnoVation was winning Proleague titles. Would be nice to see the trainee surpass the ace

Reminder that Zoun is only a month younger than Maru, which makes him the 2nd youngest player in GSL I think.
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
September 12 2020 05:12 GMT
#33
That is a huge upset. sOO looks like he is getting ready to retire. No way he beats Hurricane
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
September 12 2020 05:12 GMT
#34
soO sad
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Niravroh
Profile Joined August 2020
165 Posts
September 12 2020 05:15 GMT
#35
I'd be very upset for soO if he manages to lose two ZvP matches in this state balance patch. Especially against opponents like Zoun and Hurricane.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7389 Posts
September 12 2020 05:17 GMT
#36
On September 12 2020 14:10 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2020 14:07 Zambrah wrote:
Zoun looked very solid there, maybe he beats Inno and I can be happy for once


Zoun, the SKT benchwarmer when INnoVation was winning Proleague titles. Would be nice to see the trainee surpass the ace

Reminder that Zoun is only a month younger than Maru, which makes him the 2nd youngest player in GSL I think.


He's going to be Zoun my new Protoss Hero if he takes Inno out, I'm glad Protoss has a future with him, if he betrays me though I swear to God
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33503 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 05:20:46
September 12 2020 05:18 GMT
#37
Ionno how hard soO practiced, but I can't blame him for grabbing that one last $2500 paycheck from the GSL for reaching the RO24, since it's basically free in this current qualifier environment

Still hope he can upgrade it to $4000
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
September 12 2020 05:22 GMT
#38
Seemed like being in Afreeca Freecs team wont help Soo much, but rather help DRG and Armani to get better and better.

For me, Soo was just like SoS in JinAir team, being there was to keep the other players getting better.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3122 Posts
September 12 2020 05:23 GMT
#39
Oh wow casting GSL than ASL later. I hope I'm awake to watch it.
Artosis loves Starcraft
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 12 2020 05:24 GMT
#40
Woah, the blind shield battery.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 05:26:40
September 12 2020 05:25 GMT
#41
Too bad Artosis just cursed Zoun. It would have been nice to see him make it. Oh well, my Liquibets might appreciate it.

On September 12 2020 14:24 lolfail9001 wrote:
Woah, the blind shield battery.


You usually send the adepts across the map when you do that, but it isn't that rare.

Also nice to see more exciting stuff from Zoun.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 12 2020 05:25 GMT
#42
On September 12 2020 14:25 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Too bad Artosis just cursed Zoun. It would have been nice to see him make it. Oh well, my Liquibets might appreciate it.

Seriously, and Zoun is doing such fun stuff like making shield battery and 2 void rays not underneath terran base.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
September 12 2020 05:26 GMT
#43
wtf is this
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7389 Posts
September 12 2020 05:26 GMT
#44
What is this abject madness and why am I IN LOVE with it
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 05:28:14
September 12 2020 05:27 GMT
#45
innovation just dies to this, no? marines don't beat this

holy shit IM KINDA IN TO IT
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7389 Posts
September 12 2020 05:27 GMT
#46
WHAT A FUCKING GOD
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
fastr
Profile Joined February 2011
France902 Posts
September 12 2020 05:28 GMT
#47
?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 12 2020 05:28 GMT
#48
Lmao this was the least close fight there was.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
September 12 2020 05:28 GMT
#49
lol that was a game
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 12 2020 05:28 GMT
#50
Zoun updating The Book lmao.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Kazi25
Profile Joined July 2016
Philippines236 Posts
September 12 2020 05:28 GMT
#51
This guy is well prepared!
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7389 Posts
September 12 2020 05:28 GMT
#52
Seriously Zoun is the best part of this group and I am SUPER INTO IT
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
September 12 2020 05:28 GMT
#53
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[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
September 12 2020 05:29 GMT
#54
Pretty funny how this patch made what everyone said it would: Increase proxy Voids and other VR all-ins vs Terran, and do nothing for PvZ.

Who would have thought.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 12 2020 05:29 GMT
#55
Moving out is the worst thing against the mass adept. It felt like the void rays weren't even necessary.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 05:30:42
September 12 2020 05:30 GMT
#56
On September 12 2020 14:29 [Phantom] wrote:
Pretty funny how this patch made what everyone said it would: Increase proxy Voids and other VR all-ins vs Terran, and do nothing for PvZ.

Who would have thought.

I mean, voids did not even do their intended job in this game because Innovation sold the bunker, that's the funniest part.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
September 12 2020 05:30 GMT
#57
On September 12 2020 14:29 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Moving out is the worst thing against the mass adept. It felt like the void rays weren't even necessary.

I'm almost certain that Innovation was expecting void rays + stalkers, there's definitely a window where he could've done damage if that was the case, he just had a bad read on the the mass adepts
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States998 Posts
September 12 2020 05:31 GMT
#58
What would Inno have needed to stop that push? More mines perhaps? There was no detection.
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
September 12 2020 05:31 GMT
#59
Zoun going 2 base all in is really refreshing to show how strong Protoss is.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33503 Posts
September 12 2020 05:31 GMT
#60
Given how quickly those marines died I'm not sure the upgrades would have mattered D:
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BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
September 12 2020 05:31 GMT
#61
On September 12 2020 14:29 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Moving out is the worst thing against the mass adept. It felt like the void rays weren't even necessary.


i dont think he was expecting adepts
TL+ Member
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 12 2020 05:31 GMT
#62
On September 12 2020 14:31 Monochromatic wrote:
What would Inno have needed to stop that push? More mines perhaps? There was no detection.

Well, first and important step would be keeping that bunker.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
September 12 2020 05:32 GMT
#63
On September 12 2020 14:31 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2020 14:31 Monochromatic wrote:
What would Inno have needed to stop that push? More mines perhaps? There was no detection.

Well, first and important step would be keeping that bunker.

I think you treat it as an adept all in, if you see it you can wall + cyclones for the void rays
¯\_(シ)_/¯
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
September 12 2020 05:33 GMT
#64
On September 12 2020 14:31 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2020 14:31 Monochromatic wrote:
What would Inno have needed to stop that push? More mines perhaps? There was no detection.

Well, first and important step would be keeping that bunker.

You'd need a lot of bunkers. Maybe open up 3 Rax?
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 05:35:39
September 12 2020 05:35 GMT
#65
Innovation has basically only used one build all night so far lol
¯\_(シ)_/¯
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 05:36:26
September 12 2020 05:36 GMT
#66
On September 12 2020 14:32 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2020 14:31 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2020 14:31 Monochromatic wrote:
What would Inno have needed to stop that push? More mines perhaps? There was no detection.

Well, first and important step would be keeping that bunker.

I think you treat it as an adept all in, if you see it you can wall + cyclones for the void rays


Yeah, it's an adept all-in that is able to melt depots and bunkers.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 12 2020 05:38 GMT
#67
On September 12 2020 14:35 Whatson wrote:
Innovation has basically only used one build all night so far lol

I mean, that's classic Innovation, isn't it?

Besides, this build seems to work.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7389 Posts
September 12 2020 05:39 GMT
#68
Come on Zoun, send Inno down, I have FAITH in your powers. You might be playing against Innovation, but the only innovation that's going on is Zoun!
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3122 Posts
September 12 2020 05:39 GMT
#69
That was a stomp. Was hoping for Zoun to pull some cool strat again like game 1.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7389 Posts
September 12 2020 05:46 GMT
#70
Zounnnnnn doing itttttt
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States998 Posts
September 12 2020 05:47 GMT
#71
Have medivacs always been armored? I could've sworn they were light.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 12 2020 05:48 GMT
#72
On September 12 2020 14:47 Monochromatic wrote:
Have medivacs always been armored? I could've sworn they were light.


Yeah, always.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
September 12 2020 05:49 GMT
#73
What a god
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Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
September 12 2020 05:49 GMT
#74
zoun is so far ahead right now
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
September 12 2020 05:49 GMT
#75
can't lift against phoenixes lmaooo
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7389 Posts
September 12 2020 05:50 GMT
#76
ZOOOUUNNNN DIIIIID IIIIIT, I subscribe to the Zounese religion
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 12 2020 05:50 GMT
#77
Man, it would really be a shame for this guy to stop his Dear-like tear because of Artosis curse.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Kazi25
Profile Joined July 2016
Philippines236 Posts
September 12 2020 05:50 GMT
#78
Wow.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
September 12 2020 05:50 GMT
#79
What a heroic performance for Zoun. I wonder what crazy folks predicted him coming out 1st in the group.
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NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3122 Posts
September 12 2020 05:50 GMT
#80
Definatley much weaker play than I'm used to seeing from Inno. GG to Zoun on making the Ro.16
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 05:50:39
September 12 2020 05:50 GMT
#81
damn that is super impressive from Zoun, I really did not expect him to advance in first, or advance at all lol
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
September 12 2020 05:50 GMT
#82
lol the BM nexus. How can he disrespect Inno like that? this kid has balls
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 12 2020 05:51 GMT
#83
On September 12 2020 14:50 lolfail9001 wrote:
Man, it would really be a shame for this guy to stop his Dear-like tear because of Artosis curse.

i wish koreans knew about the arty curse. would take a lot of pressure off.
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
September 12 2020 05:51 GMT
#84
Damn great play from Zoun
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Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States998 Posts
September 12 2020 05:51 GMT
#85
Zoun is my new favorite protoss. Great games. Reminds me of DRG's run last season where he just did something completely different and was met with success.

Really looking forward to the ro16 at this point.
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BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
September 12 2020 05:51 GMT
#86
On September 12 2020 14:50 Golgotha wrote:
lol the BM nexus. How can he disrespect Inno like that? this kid has balls


It's not really BM

it's a good move imo
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
September 12 2020 05:51 GMT
#87
Didn't predict that
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 12 2020 05:51 GMT
#88
On September 12 2020 14:50 Golgotha wrote:
lol the BM nexus. How can he disrespect Inno like that? this kid has balls

Well, it is the base trade situation, so it is both BM nexus and not really BM because it is the closest position to his army.
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 12 2020 05:51 GMT
#89
On September 12 2020 14:51 Monochromatic wrote:
Zoun is my new favorite protoss. Great games. Reminds me of DRG's run last season where he just did something completely different and was met with success.

Really looking forward to the ro16 at this point.

scarscar has been hyping zoun. i of course didn't vote accordingly tt
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Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
September 12 2020 05:52 GMT
#90
New protoss hero. PvZ and PvT, and *mostly* smoothe. Good job.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 12 2020 05:52 GMT
#91
On September 12 2020 14:50 Golgotha wrote:
lol the BM nexus. How can he disrespect Inno like that? this kid has balls


I doubt it was a BM nexus. Just a back-up if he loses the third.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 12 2020 05:52 GMT
#92
On September 12 2020 14:52 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2020 14:50 Golgotha wrote:
lol the BM nexus. How can he disrespect Inno like that? this kid has balls


I doubt it was a BM nexus. Just a back-up if he loses the third.

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Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
September 12 2020 05:52 GMT
#93
The second Zoun saw the second part of innovation's army circling on the left side of the map to the 3rd base he snuck three probes out
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33503 Posts
September 12 2020 05:53 GMT
#94
Wouldn't have expected it at all after INnoVation walked all over Zoun in the GTC. I guess that famous "GSL PREPARATION" isn't just a meme
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 12 2020 05:53 GMT
#95
On September 12 2020 14:53 Waxangel wrote:
Wouldn't have expected it at all after INnoVation walked all over Zoun in the GTC. I guess that famous "GSL PREPARATION" isn't just a meme

no they just want liquibet to be impossible
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
September 12 2020 05:54 GMT
#96
Wow and Zoun's previous matches were abysmal according to Aligulac. The practice is starting to pay off for him. Congrats!
Niravroh
Profile Joined August 2020
165 Posts
September 12 2020 05:54 GMT
#97
Good lord at least 1 of INnoVation and soO won't be moving on. I was skeptical of soO's form, but this is still unexpected.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 12 2020 05:55 GMT
#98
On September 12 2020 14:54 geokilla wrote:
Wow and Zoun's previous matches were abysmal according to Aligulac. The practice is starting to pay off for him. Congrats!

screw aligulac. ya gotta watch the games. play > result
just saying. i don't think zoun was gonna get out of this group 1/10000
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Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
September 12 2020 05:56 GMT
#99
First time being in Ro. 16? I thought Zoun has played several times in GSL before.
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 12 2020 05:56 GMT
#100
On September 12 2020 14:54 Niravroh wrote:
Good lord at least 1 of INnoVation and soO won't be moving on. I was skeptical of soO's form, but this is still unexpected.

not to mention sos. i have no idea how to call these groups
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 12 2020 05:56 GMT
#101
Zoun is 6.6k on KR which does make him quite a bit better than the other so called amateurs like Spear, Nightmare, or Prince. Still a big surprise.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 12 2020 05:57 GMT
#102
On September 12 2020 14:56 swarminfestor wrote:
First time being in Ro. 16? I thought Zoun has played several times in GSL before.

nope. he is very new to gsl. might have only been his 1st or 2nd ro24 appearance.
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 12 2020 05:57 GMT
#103
On September 12 2020 14:56 swarminfestor wrote:
First time being in Ro. 16? I thought Zoun has played several times in GSL before.

Yeah, he qualified last season apparently.

Losing to Zest and soO (lmao) in group.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33503 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 05:58:09
September 12 2020 05:57 GMT
#104
On September 12 2020 14:55 Alejandrisha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2020 14:54 geokilla wrote:
Wow and Zoun's previous matches were abysmal according to Aligulac. The practice is starting to pay off for him. Congrats!

screw aligulac. ya gotta watch the games. play > result
just saying. i don't think zoun was gonna get out of this group 1/10000


I'm pretty sure if you watched the games you would also have predicted INnoVation to smash Zoun

If it was easily foreseeable, it wouldn't have been an upset
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 12 2020 05:58 GMT
#105
On September 12 2020 14:57 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2020 14:55 Alejandrisha wrote:
On September 12 2020 14:54 geokilla wrote:
Wow and Zoun's previous matches were abysmal according to Aligulac. The practice is starting to pay off for him. Congrats!

screw aligulac. ya gotta watch the games. play > result
just saying. i don't think zoun was gonna get out of this group 1/10000


I'm pretty sure if you watched the games you would also have predicted INnoVation to smash Zoun

lol i actually did not. good call. was too busy watching this silly guy gypsy stream
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Profile Joined September 2013
United States646 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 05:59:07
September 12 2020 05:58 GMT
#106
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
September 12 2020 05:58 GMT
#107
So, two newbie players in Ro. 16 had pretty decent chances to make into Group A depending on Rogue's choice.
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Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States998 Posts
September 12 2020 05:58 GMT
#108
The only thing that concerns me about Zoun is he appeared to rely on his disruptor colossus play vs zerg, and I feel like fast mutas shuts that down completely.

It'll be interesting to see if he can continue to defeat zerg in an era where zerg enjoys much success.
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 12 2020 05:59 GMT
#109
On September 12 2020 14:58 swarminfestor wrote:
So, two newbie players in Ro. 16 had pretty decent chances to make into Group A depending on Rogue's choice.

i think rogue is gonna win this whole thing. guy is a stone-cold killer. i love watching player cams. he always looks like he is reading/deleting spam e-mails
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 06:01:59
September 12 2020 06:00 GMT
#110
On September 12 2020 14:58 Monochromatic wrote:
The only thing that concerns me about Zoun is he appeared to rely on his disruptor colossus play vs zerg, and I feel like fast mutas shuts that down completely.

It'll be interesting to see if he can continue to defeat zerg in an era where zerg enjoys much success.

interesting point. if we're talking a flock of mutas, i'm sure he would play differently. we must see to seeee
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 12 2020 06:02 GMT
#111
On September 12 2020 14:59 Alejandrisha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2020 14:58 swarminfestor wrote:
So, two newbie players in Ro. 16 had pretty decent chances to make into Group A depending on Rogue's choice.

i think rogue is gonna win this whole thing. guy is a stone-cold killer. i love watching player cams. he always looks like he is reading/deleting spam e-mails


He won last season, so based on past experience he'll drop out in the ro16 after getting 12 pooled by Armani or something.
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
September 12 2020 06:02 GMT
#112
On September 12 2020 14:58 Monochromatic wrote:
The only thing that concerns me about Zoun is he appeared to rely on his disruptor colossus play vs zerg, and I feel like fast mutas shuts that down completely.

It'll be interesting to see if he can continue to defeat zerg in an era where zerg enjoys much success.


he seems to be a more cerebral player than a player (like parting for example) that relies on raw mechanics to make it through.

he probably has something to deal with mutas (which soo almost got in one of the games eternal empire i believe - and zoun attacked at the perfect moment). Zoun would probably get eviscerated by a player like dark.
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 06:03:20
September 12 2020 06:02 GMT
#113
On September 12 2020 15:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2020 14:59 Alejandrisha wrote:
On September 12 2020 14:58 swarminfestor wrote:
So, two newbie players in Ro. 16 had pretty decent chances to make into Group A depending on Rogue's choice.

i think rogue is gonna win this whole thing. guy is a stone-cold killer. i love watching player cams. he always looks like he is reading/deleting spam e-mails


He won last season, so based on past experience he'll drop out in the ro16 after getting 12 pooled by Armani or something.

armani do be slayin tho
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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
September 12 2020 06:05 GMT
#114
On September 12 2020 14:56 swarminfestor wrote:
First time being in Ro. 16? I thought Zoun has played several times in GSL before.

This is his second GSL, but he was a progamer way back in 2014 for Prime and played a few times in Proleague.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 12 2020 06:05 GMT
#115
lol, i had english subtitles enabled and every time they say soo its come up as sioux
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NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3122 Posts
September 12 2020 06:06 GMT
#116
I'm loving how protoss players are making the 2nd pylon at the wall now.
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mikedupp
Profile Joined May 2020
233 Posts
September 12 2020 06:08 GMT
#117
Artosis did not read that article correctly
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 12 2020 06:12 GMT
#118
It won't be another split map ZvP on Ice and Chrome, will it?
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 06:13:44
September 12 2020 06:13 GMT
#119
On September 12 2020 15:08 mikedupp wrote:
Artosis did not read that article correctly


The proposed bill just gives BTS (and possibly Faker and similarly culturally important people) deferment until they're 30 right? Which is two years longer than most Koreans can defer things.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 12 2020 06:13 GMT
#120
That was almost too soO for soO.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33503 Posts
September 12 2020 06:15 GMT
#121
Ahhh good ol' late game soO
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 06:19:20
September 12 2020 06:16 GMT
#122
moving into a 5 base comp with 3 bases like+ Show Spoiler +
no
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[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
September 12 2020 06:19 GMT
#123
IDK how someone could see that game and say that PvZ is balanced honestly

But Soo played very well too.
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 06:21:00
September 12 2020 06:20 GMT
#124
On September 12 2020 15:19 [Phantom] wrote:
IDK how someone could see that game and say that PvZ is balanced honestly

But Soo played very well too.


Well, it did not have the best protoss unit in it, after all. I actually don't remember last time i saw Protoss win a game of PvZ without building that particular best unit.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 12 2020 06:21 GMT
#125
On September 12 2020 15:19 [Phantom] wrote:
IDK how someone could see that game and say that PvZ is balanced honestly

But Soo played very well too.


There was a lot of damage done early on on both sides, so I wouldn't draw too many conclusions from that particular game.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 12 2020 06:21 GMT
#126
On September 12 2020 15:19 [Phantom] wrote:
IDK how someone could see that game and say that PvZ is balanced honestly

But Soo played very well too.

definitely an impetus on p to make a move but i don't think the mu is necessarily imba. oh wait jk there is no such thing as an ultimate army pvz. z just laughs at you.
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BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
September 12 2020 06:22 GMT
#127
"it's slow enough that a terran can kill it without being frustrated"

LLMFAO
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 12 2020 06:22 GMT
#128
On September 12 2020 15:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2020 15:19 [Phantom] wrote:
IDK how someone could see that game and say that PvZ is balanced honestly

But Soo played very well too.


Well, it did not have the best protoss unit in it, after all. I actually don't remember last time i saw Protoss win a game of PvZ without building that particular best unit.

the unit you are referring to is a hoax
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 12 2020 06:23 GMT
#129
On September 12 2020 15:22 BerserkSword wrote:
"it's slow enough that a terran can kill it without being frustrated"

LLMFAO

those patch notes man.. inviting comedy.
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BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 06:23:52
September 12 2020 06:23 GMT
#130
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Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 06:24:35
September 12 2020 06:23 GMT
#131
On September 12 2020 15:22 Alejandrisha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2020 15:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2020 15:19 [Phantom] wrote:
IDK how someone could see that game and say that PvZ is balanced honestly

But Soo played very well too.


Well, it did not have the best protoss unit in it, after all. I actually don't remember last time i saw Protoss win a game of PvZ without building that particular best unit.

the unit you are referring to is a hoax

Facts remain. Tosses do lose to zergs building it, but i truly don't remember last time i saw protoss beat a zerg without it.

Oh, and of course i don't refer to that great PvT all-in unit.
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 12 2020 06:24 GMT
#132
On September 12 2020 15:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2020 15:22 Alejandrisha wrote:
On September 12 2020 15:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2020 15:19 [Phantom] wrote:
IDK how someone could see that game and say that PvZ is balanced honestly

But Soo played very well too.


Well, it did not have the best protoss unit in it, after all. I actually don't remember last time i saw Protoss win a game of PvZ without building that particular best unit.

the unit you are referring to is a hoax

Facts remain. Tosses do lose to zergs building it, but i truly don't remember last time i saw protoss beat a zerg without it.

i don't think this is relevant. but i would love to see the stats.
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Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States998 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 06:27:12
September 12 2020 06:26 GMT
#133
On September 12 2020 15:19 [Phantom] wrote:
IDK how someone could see that game and say that PvZ is balanced honestly

But Soo played very well too.


The all-in didn't kill soO. That explains the midgame situation. soO lost badly in his first push, but Hurricane lacked the army to punish due to the failed all-in. Lurkers are good vs ground, and tempests are bad vs units.

I think PvZ is in a bad spot right now but that game isn't a good example.
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 12 2020 06:26 GMT
#134
Hurricane is playing 2017 PvZ too much for my taste.
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 12 2020 06:27 GMT
#135
On September 12 2020 15:26 lolfail9001 wrote:
Hurricane is playing 2017 PvZ too much for my taste.

might be the best route
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NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3122 Posts
September 12 2020 06:30 GMT
#136
I want to see DT blink.
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 06:32:43
September 12 2020 06:32 GMT
#137
On September 12 2020 15:30 NoS-Craig wrote:
I want to see DT blink.

you will
edit: PSYCHE
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Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States998 Posts
September 12 2020 06:33 GMT
#138
It will be the most poetic moment in starcraft 2 history if soO's last game is a GSL loss to innovation.
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 12 2020 06:34 GMT
#139
Is it? I would find soO losing to Dear for his GSL game much more poetic.
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[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 06:37:12
September 12 2020 06:36 GMT
#140
I was talking more about the army interaction of Protods and Zerg as well as economy. Protoss harass don't do enough damage to the Zerg ever. I'm not even sure why they bother with the adepts anymore.

And then lurker literally counters every ground protoss unit
They can be countered by outplaying the Zerg atacking various places while you rush to air and defend with Templars but then Vipers and the increased lurker range come into play.


Still, I think Soo played well and I hope he advances over inno!
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Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States998 Posts
September 12 2020 06:41 GMT
#141
On September 12 2020 15:36 [Phantom] wrote:
I was talking more about the army interaction of Protods and Zerg as well as economy. Protoss harass don't do enough damage to the Zerg ever. I'm not even sure why they bother with the adepts anymore.

And then lurker literally counters every ground protoss unit
They can be countered by outplaying the Zerg atacking various places while you rush to air and defend with Templars but then Vipers and the increased lurker range come into play.


Still, I think Soo played well and I hope he advances over inno!


I don't disagree. I think zerg needs not nerfs but a major redesign of several key units and structures.
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4958 Posts
September 12 2020 06:42 GMT
#142
On September 12 2020 15:36 [Phantom] wrote:
I was talking more about the army interaction of Protods and Zerg as well as economy. Protoss harass don't do enough damage to the Zerg ever. I'm not even sure why they bother with the adepts anymore.

And then lurker literally counters every ground protoss unit
They can be countered by outplaying the Zerg atacking various places while you rush to air and defend with Templars but then Vipers and the increased lurker range come into play.


Still, I think Soo played well and I hope he advances over inno!



I find weird you make such strong statement when literally two series ago we saw Zoun destroying soO economy with adepts
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Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 06:58:12
September 12 2020 06:58 GMT
#143
2013 called, it wants it's TvZ back.
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4958 Posts
September 12 2020 06:58 GMT
#144
not enough larvae and no queens injecting hatches, bad macro for soO
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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
September 12 2020 07:12 GMT
#145
soO
WTCO
Profile Joined September 2013
United States646 Posts
September 12 2020 07:12 GMT
#146
RIP soO
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17721 Posts
September 12 2020 07:12 GMT
#147
why did Zoun have to turn on god mode now?
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StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
September 12 2020 07:12 GMT
#148
Terrible macro. Floating 1k+ resources for most of the game. GG soO.
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3122 Posts
September 12 2020 07:13 GMT
#149
GG Innovation. I do hope SoO does come back to starcraft at some point. Even if it's BW.
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4958 Posts
September 12 2020 07:13 GMT
#150
Goodbye soO, your short post kespa twtich stream was great!
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Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 12 2020 07:13 GMT
#151
Yeah, sad for soO, but he truly was only 3rd best today, so the best service to him.
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Niravroh
Profile Joined August 2020
165 Posts
September 12 2020 07:16 GMT
#152
I can't believe INnoVation is the one to kick soO to the military. You can't write this stuff lmao
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
September 12 2020 07:17 GMT
#153
I thought Rogue gonna pick up in Group A but it seemed like TY is still on the top seed?
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4958 Posts
September 12 2020 07:18 GMT
#154
People excited about ByuN coming back but I'm like.... Patience <3
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Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 07:27:12
September 12 2020 07:26 GMT
#155
On September 12 2020 16:18 Argonauta wrote:
People excited about ByuN coming back but I'm like.... Patience <3

xD
i didn't believe in byun,, but i also didn't believe in what's his face
edit: zoun. yes. zoun is the one
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Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
September 12 2020 07:38 GMT
#156
Wow Zoun
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FCHK
Profile Joined August 2020
202 Posts
September 12 2020 07:48 GMT
#157
On September 12 2020 16:17 swarminfestor wrote:
I thought Rogue gonna pick up in Group A but it seemed like TY is still on the top seed?

Yes
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Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
September 12 2020 08:10 GMT
#158
I was happy to see Zoun play so well and advance first. Sad we lose soO now.
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seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
September 12 2020 10:45 GMT
#159
zoung padawan zoun destroyed my LB man...
picking soO and bogus shouldve been no brainer but soO couldnt deliver :[
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
September 12 2020 11:47 GMT
#160
On September 12 2020 15:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
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On September 12 2020 15:22 Alejandrisha wrote:
On September 12 2020 15:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2020 15:19 [Phantom] wrote:
IDK how someone could see that game and say that PvZ is balanced honestly

But Soo played very well too.


Well, it did not have the best protoss unit in it, after all. I actually don't remember last time i saw Protoss win a game of PvZ without building that particular best unit.

the unit you are referring to is a hoax

Facts remain. Tosses do lose to zergs building it, but i truly don't remember last time i saw protoss beat a zerg without it.

Oh, and of course i don't refer to that great PvT all-in unit.

I can't solve the puzzle...
which unit are you talking about?
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
September 12 2020 11:54 GMT
#161
On September 12 2020 20:47 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2020 15:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2020 15:22 Alejandrisha wrote:
On September 12 2020 15:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2020 15:19 [Phantom] wrote:
IDK how someone could see that game and say that PvZ is balanced honestly

But Soo played very well too.


Well, it did not have the best protoss unit in it, after all. I actually don't remember last time i saw Protoss win a game of PvZ without building that particular best unit.

the unit you are referring to is a hoax

Facts remain. Tosses do lose to zergs building it, but i truly don't remember last time i saw protoss beat a zerg without it.

Oh, and of course i don't refer to that great PvT all-in unit.

I can't solve the puzzle...
which unit are you talking about?

The probe obviously
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
September 12 2020 12:03 GMT
#162
On September 12 2020 20:54 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2020 20:47 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 12 2020 15:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2020 15:22 Alejandrisha wrote:
On September 12 2020 15:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2020 15:19 [Phantom] wrote:
IDK how someone could see that game and say that PvZ is balanced honestly

But Soo played very well too.


Well, it did not have the best protoss unit in it, after all. I actually don't remember last time i saw Protoss win a game of PvZ without building that particular best unit.

the unit you are referring to is a hoax

Facts remain. Tosses do lose to zergs building it, but i truly don't remember last time i saw protoss beat a zerg without it.

Oh, and of course i don't refer to that great PvT all-in unit.

I can't solve the puzzle...
which unit are you talking about?

The probe obviously

but he built probes...?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
September 12 2020 13:09 GMT
#163
zoun what a god, holy moly
BeoMulf
Profile Joined January 2014
United States94 Posts
September 12 2020 20:20 GMT
#164
The second coming of Byun! Years in mediocrity, but now this. BOW BEFORE THE NEW TOSS GOD
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tskarzyn
Profile Joined July 2010
United States516 Posts
September 12 2020 23:00 GMT
#165
Zoun showed some interesting builds, but his play seems really exploitable by anyone who isn't asleep at the wheel. Guessing he gets stomped in the RO16.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10098 Posts
September 13 2020 01:33 GMT
#166
damn Zoun bringing his own flavor!!! im kind of sad about soO i wish him the best
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Drygioni
Profile Joined February 2011
Japan379 Posts
September 13 2020 09:56 GMT
#167
I thought this was going to be an easy group to call. Zoun ruined my liquibets.

Also thought hurricane put up a pretty good fight vs soO, would like to see more of him in the future.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26223 Posts
September 13 2020 13:50 GMT
#168
Well Zoun certainly surprised me, hope he can keep his level and be an interesting addition to the Ro16
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egrimm
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland1199 Posts
September 13 2020 20:41 GMT
#169
Finally some inspiring Protoss play - well done Zoun! You might just have earned a new fan
Sad to see soO go, definitely an end of era. Hope we will see him again sooner than later!
sOs TY PartinG
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
September 14 2020 01:45 GMT
#170
whoa that's crazy, beating two multi-champs to get out of the group first? Zoun to win it all?
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Niravroh
Profile Joined August 2020
165 Posts
September 14 2020 03:32 GMT
#171
On September 14 2020 10:45 Caihead wrote:
whoa that's crazy, beating two multi-champs to get out of the group first? Zoun to win it all?


I loved watching Zoun, but I wouldn't bank on him too much. There's only so far you can get with gimmicky builds. INnoVation looked like he was hiding builds, since he pretty much did the same thing every game. And even then INnoVation was only 1 map away from winning. Also don't forget that soO is in very questionable form. Unless Zoun can somehow avoid every zerg for the rest of the tournament, I just don't see builds like that working against the likes of a Rogue or Dark, especially after they've been revealed already.
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