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Pandemona
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Pandemona
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Poll: Who Advances? INnoVation & soO (15) INnoVation & Zoun (3) Hurricane & INnoVation (3) soO & Hurricane (1) Zoun & Hurricane (1) soO & Zoun (1) 24 total votes Your vote: Who Advances? (Vote): INnoVation & Zoun | ||
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ShowTheLights
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But after Armani got out.. who knows | ||
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On September 12 2020 05:37 ShowTheLights wrote: I was gonna say zero chance Hurricane gets out But after Armani got out.. who knows I honestly thought the last group was the easiest group to call and picked Cure and Armani as soon as groups were announced lol. I'd say this group is a little harder though. Still, this should be Inno/soO or inno/Hurricane imo. | ||
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Also INno's engagements weren't so hot even in the game he won. The heavy widow mine count didn't pay off. He'll need to do better if he wants to beat soO. | ||
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Whatson
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Idk about Innovation's widow-mine play, they were always too far ahead of the main army or not spread out enough. | ||
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StasisField
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On September 12 2020 13:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote: With all the protosses losing to a medivac and four hellions, INno has to pay them back by losing to a warp prism and four zealots. If I have to watch Protosses scout it with their phoenix opening and still lose 12 probes, it's only fair | ||
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serendipitous
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On September 12 2020 13:30 lolfail9001 wrote: Right, it never hit me before, what's up with regards to Inno's military? Well soO was born in 1992, Inno in 1993. So I assume he'll have to go next year | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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It worked this time, but dunno if they're that good. Having tanks just seems scarier. | ||
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lolfail9001
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On September 12 2020 13:39 ZigguratOfUr wrote: These pushes from INno are weird. No tanks at all and 10 widow mines? It worked this time, but dunno if they're that good. Having tanks just seems scarier. Well, widow mines seem to do their job of removing zealots from equation. | ||
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On September 12 2020 13:57 Niravroh wrote: How should a zerg react to this? Control better. It's just a colossus without thermal, a few disruptors and gateway units. You might also be able to cut some drones to make holding it easier. | ||
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Whatson
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I'm guessing Zoun was originally going for a mass adept timing, but he ended up doing so much damage with his first wave that he went into macro Some pretty slick micro too | ||
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Waxangel
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On September 12 2020 13:39 ZigguratOfUr wrote: These pushes from INno are weird. No tanks at all and 10 widow mines? It worked this time, but dunno if they're that good. Having tanks just seems scarier. Ice and Chrome has the tank-siege spot with rocks which makes it a more 'obvious' tank map | ||
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Waxangel
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On September 12 2020 14:07 Zambrah wrote: Zoun looked very solid there, maybe he beats Inno and I can be happy for once Zoun, the SKT benchwarmer when INnoVation was winning Proleague titles. Would be nice to see the trainee surpass the ace ![]() Reminder that Zoun is only a month younger than Maru, which makes him the 2nd youngest player in GSL I think. | ||
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Zambrah
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On September 12 2020 14:10 Waxangel wrote: Show nested quote + On September 12 2020 14:07 Zambrah wrote: Zoun looked very solid there, maybe he beats Inno and I can be happy for once Zoun, the SKT benchwarmer when INnoVation was winning Proleague titles. Would be nice to see the trainee surpass the ace ![]() Reminder that Zoun is only a month younger than Maru, which makes him the 2nd youngest player in GSL I think. He's going to be Zoun my new Protoss Hero if he takes Inno out, I'm glad Protoss has a future with him, if he betrays me though I swear to God | ||
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![]() Still hope he can upgrade it to $4000 ![]() | ||
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swarminfestor
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For me, Soo was just like SoS in JinAir team, being there was to keep the other players getting better. | ||
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On September 12 2020 14:24 lolfail9001 wrote: Woah, the blind shield battery. You usually send the adepts across the map when you do that, but it isn't that rare. Also nice to see more exciting stuff from Zoun. | ||
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On September 12 2020 14:25 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Too bad Artosis just cursed Zoun. It would have been nice to see him make it. Oh well, my Liquibets might appreciate it. Seriously, and Zoun is doing such fun stuff like making shield battery and 2 void rays not underneath terran base. | ||
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Whatson
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holy shit IM KINDA IN TO IT | ||
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fastr
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[Phantom]
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Who would have thought. | ||
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lolfail9001
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On September 12 2020 14:29 [Phantom] wrote: Pretty funny how this patch made what everyone said it would: Increase proxy Voids and other VR all-ins vs Terran, and do nothing for PvZ. Who would have thought. I mean, voids did not even do their intended job in this game because Innovation sold the bunker, that's the funniest part. | ||
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Whatson
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On September 12 2020 14:29 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Moving out is the worst thing against the mass adept. It felt like the void rays weren't even necessary. I'm almost certain that Innovation was expecting void rays + stalkers, there's definitely a window where he could've done damage if that was the case, he just had a bad read on the the mass adepts | ||
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BerserkSword
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On September 12 2020 14:29 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Moving out is the worst thing against the mass adept. It felt like the void rays weren't even necessary. i dont think he was expecting adepts | ||
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lolfail9001
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On September 12 2020 14:31 Monochromatic wrote: What would Inno have needed to stop that push? More mines perhaps? There was no detection. Well, first and important step would be keeping that bunker. | ||
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Whatson
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On September 12 2020 14:31 lolfail9001 wrote: Show nested quote + On September 12 2020 14:31 Monochromatic wrote: What would Inno have needed to stop that push? More mines perhaps? There was no detection. Well, first and important step would be keeping that bunker. I think you treat it as an adept all in, if you see it you can wall + cyclones for the void rays | ||
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geokilla
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On September 12 2020 14:31 lolfail9001 wrote: Show nested quote + On September 12 2020 14:31 Monochromatic wrote: What would Inno have needed to stop that push? More mines perhaps? There was no detection. Well, first and important step would be keeping that bunker. You'd need a lot of bunkers. Maybe open up 3 Rax? | ||
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On September 12 2020 14:32 Whatson wrote: Show nested quote + On September 12 2020 14:31 lolfail9001 wrote: On September 12 2020 14:31 Monochromatic wrote: What would Inno have needed to stop that push? More mines perhaps? There was no detection. Well, first and important step would be keeping that bunker. I think you treat it as an adept all in, if you see it you can wall + cyclones for the void rays Yeah, it's an adept all-in that is able to melt depots and bunkers. | ||
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lolfail9001
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On September 12 2020 14:35 Whatson wrote: Innovation has basically only used one build all night so far lol I mean, that's classic Innovation, isn't it? Besides, this build seems to work. | ||
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On September 12 2020 14:47 Monochromatic wrote: Have medivacs always been armored? I could've sworn they were light. Yeah, always. | ||
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On September 12 2020 14:50 lolfail9001 wrote: Man, it would really be a shame for this guy to stop his Dear-like tear because of Artosis curse. i wish koreans knew about the arty curse. would take a lot of pressure off. | ||
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Really looking forward to the ro16 at this point. | ||
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BerserkSword
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On September 12 2020 14:50 Golgotha wrote: lol the BM nexus. How can he disrespect Inno like that? this kid has balls It's not really BM it's a good move imo | ||
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lolfail9001
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On September 12 2020 14:50 Golgotha wrote: lol the BM nexus. How can he disrespect Inno like that? this kid has balls Well, it is the base trade situation, so it is both BM nexus and not really BM because it is the closest position to his army. | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On September 12 2020 14:51 Monochromatic wrote: Zoun is my new favorite protoss. Great games. Reminds me of DRG's run last season where he just did something completely different and was met with success. Really looking forward to the ro16 at this point. scarscar has been hyping zoun. i of course didn't vote accordingly tt | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On September 12 2020 14:50 Golgotha wrote: lol the BM nexus. How can he disrespect Inno like that? this kid has balls I doubt it was a BM nexus. Just a back-up if he loses the third. | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On September 12 2020 14:52 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Show nested quote + On September 12 2020 14:50 Golgotha wrote: lol the BM nexus. How can he disrespect Inno like that? this kid has balls I doubt it was a BM nexus. Just a back-up if he loses the third. long distance mining severely underrated | ||
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Alejandrisha
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On September 12 2020 14:53 Waxangel wrote: Wouldn't have expected it at all after INnoVation walked all over Zoun in the GTC. I guess that famous "GSL PREPARATION" isn't just a meme ![]() no they just want liquibet to be impossible | ||
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On September 12 2020 14:54 geokilla wrote: Wow and Zoun's previous matches were abysmal according to Aligulac. The practice is starting to pay off for him. Congrats! screw aligulac. ya gotta watch the games. play > result just saying. i don't think zoun was gonna get out of this group 1/10000 | ||
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Alejandrisha
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On September 12 2020 14:54 Niravroh wrote: Good lord at least 1 of INnoVation and soO won't be moving on. I was skeptical of soO's form, but this is still unexpected. not to mention sos. i have no idea how to call these groups | ||
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Alejandrisha
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On September 12 2020 14:56 swarminfestor wrote: First time being in Ro. 16? I thought Zoun has played several times in GSL before. nope. he is very new to gsl. might have only been his 1st or 2nd ro24 appearance. | ||
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lolfail9001
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On September 12 2020 14:56 swarminfestor wrote: First time being in Ro. 16? I thought Zoun has played several times in GSL before. Yeah, he qualified last season apparently. Losing to Zest and soO (lmao) in group. | ||
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Waxangel
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On September 12 2020 14:55 Alejandrisha wrote: Show nested quote + On September 12 2020 14:54 geokilla wrote: Wow and Zoun's previous matches were abysmal according to Aligulac. The practice is starting to pay off for him. Congrats! screw aligulac. ya gotta watch the games. play > result just saying. i don't think zoun was gonna get out of this group 1/10000 I'm pretty sure if you watched the games you would also have predicted INnoVation to smash Zoun ![]() If it was easily foreseeable, it wouldn't have been an upset ![]() | ||
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Alejandrisha
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On September 12 2020 14:57 Waxangel wrote: Show nested quote + On September 12 2020 14:55 Alejandrisha wrote: On September 12 2020 14:54 geokilla wrote: Wow and Zoun's previous matches were abysmal according to Aligulac. The practice is starting to pay off for him. Congrats! screw aligulac. ya gotta watch the games. play > result just saying. i don't think zoun was gonna get out of this group 1/10000 I'm pretty sure if you watched the games you would also have predicted INnoVation to smash Zoun ![]() lol i actually did not. good call. was too busy watching this silly guy gypsy stream | ||
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Monochromatic
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It'll be interesting to see if he can continue to defeat zerg in an era where zerg enjoys much success. | ||
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Alejandrisha
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On September 12 2020 14:58 swarminfestor wrote: So, two newbie players in Ro. 16 had pretty decent chances to make into Group A depending on Rogue's choice. i think rogue is gonna win this whole thing. guy is a stone-cold killer. i love watching player cams. he always looks like he is reading/deleting spam e-mails | ||
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Alejandrisha
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On September 12 2020 14:58 Monochromatic wrote: The only thing that concerns me about Zoun is he appeared to rely on his disruptor colossus play vs zerg, and I feel like fast mutas shuts that down completely. It'll be interesting to see if he can continue to defeat zerg in an era where zerg enjoys much success. interesting point. if we're talking a flock of mutas, i'm sure he would play differently. we must see to seeee | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On September 12 2020 14:59 Alejandrisha wrote: Show nested quote + On September 12 2020 14:58 swarminfestor wrote: So, two newbie players in Ro. 16 had pretty decent chances to make into Group A depending on Rogue's choice. i think rogue is gonna win this whole thing. guy is a stone-cold killer. i love watching player cams. he always looks like he is reading/deleting spam e-mails He won last season, so based on past experience he'll drop out in the ro16 after getting 12 pooled by Armani or something. | ||
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BerserkSword
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On September 12 2020 14:58 Monochromatic wrote: The only thing that concerns me about Zoun is he appeared to rely on his disruptor colossus play vs zerg, and I feel like fast mutas shuts that down completely. It'll be interesting to see if he can continue to defeat zerg in an era where zerg enjoys much success. he seems to be a more cerebral player than a player (like parting for example) that relies on raw mechanics to make it through. he probably has something to deal with mutas (which soo almost got in one of the games eternal empire i believe - and zoun attacked at the perfect moment). Zoun would probably get eviscerated by a player like dark. | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On September 12 2020 15:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Show nested quote + On September 12 2020 14:59 Alejandrisha wrote: On September 12 2020 14:58 swarminfestor wrote: So, two newbie players in Ro. 16 had pretty decent chances to make into Group A depending on Rogue's choice. i think rogue is gonna win this whole thing. guy is a stone-cold killer. i love watching player cams. he always looks like he is reading/deleting spam e-mails He won last season, so based on past experience he'll drop out in the ro16 after getting 12 pooled by Armani or something. armani do be slayin tho | ||
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Solar424
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On September 12 2020 14:56 swarminfestor wrote: First time being in Ro. 16? I thought Zoun has played several times in GSL before. This is his second GSL, but he was a progamer way back in 2014 for Prime and played a few times in Proleague. | ||
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On September 12 2020 15:08 mikedupp wrote: Artosis did not read that article correctly The proposed bill just gives BTS (and possibly Faker and similarly culturally important people) deferment until they're 30 right? Which is two years longer than most Koreans can defer things. | ||
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But Soo played very well too. | ||
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lolfail9001
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On September 12 2020 15:19 [Phantom] wrote: IDK how someone could see that game and say that PvZ is balanced honestly But Soo played very well too. Well, it did not have the best protoss unit in it, after all. I actually don't remember last time i saw Protoss win a game of PvZ without building that particular best unit. | ||
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On September 12 2020 15:19 [Phantom] wrote: IDK how someone could see that game and say that PvZ is balanced honestly But Soo played very well too. There was a lot of damage done early on on both sides, so I wouldn't draw too many conclusions from that particular game. | ||
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Alejandrisha
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On September 12 2020 15:19 [Phantom] wrote: IDK how someone could see that game and say that PvZ is balanced honestly But Soo played very well too. definitely an impetus on p to make a move but i don't think the mu is necessarily imba. oh wait jk there is no such thing as an ultimate army pvz. z just laughs at you. | ||
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LLMFAO | ||
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Alejandrisha
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On September 12 2020 15:20 lolfail9001 wrote: Show nested quote + On September 12 2020 15:19 [Phantom] wrote: IDK how someone could see that game and say that PvZ is balanced honestly But Soo played very well too. Well, it did not have the best protoss unit in it, after all. I actually don't remember last time i saw Protoss win a game of PvZ without building that particular best unit. the unit you are referring to is a hoax | ||
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Alejandrisha
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On September 12 2020 15:22 BerserkSword wrote: "it's slow enough that a terran can kill it without being frustrated" LLMFAO those patch notes man.. inviting comedy. | ||
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lolfail9001
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On September 12 2020 15:22 Alejandrisha wrote: Show nested quote + On September 12 2020 15:20 lolfail9001 wrote: On September 12 2020 15:19 [Phantom] wrote: IDK how someone could see that game and say that PvZ is balanced honestly But Soo played very well too. Well, it did not have the best protoss unit in it, after all. I actually don't remember last time i saw Protoss win a game of PvZ without building that particular best unit. the unit you are referring to is a hoax Facts remain. Tosses do lose to zergs building it, but i truly don't remember last time i saw protoss beat a zerg without it. Oh, and of course i don't refer to that great PvT all-in unit. | ||
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Alejandrisha
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On September 12 2020 15:23 lolfail9001 wrote: Show nested quote + On September 12 2020 15:22 Alejandrisha wrote: On September 12 2020 15:20 lolfail9001 wrote: On September 12 2020 15:19 [Phantom] wrote: IDK how someone could see that game and say that PvZ is balanced honestly But Soo played very well too. Well, it did not have the best protoss unit in it, after all. I actually don't remember last time i saw Protoss win a game of PvZ without building that particular best unit. the unit you are referring to is a hoax Facts remain. Tosses do lose to zergs building it, but i truly don't remember last time i saw protoss beat a zerg without it. i don't think this is relevant. but i would love to see the stats. | ||
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Monochromatic
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On September 12 2020 15:19 [Phantom] wrote: IDK how someone could see that game and say that PvZ is balanced honestly But Soo played very well too. The all-in didn't kill soO. That explains the midgame situation. soO lost badly in his first push, but Hurricane lacked the army to punish due to the failed all-in. Lurkers are good vs ground, and tempests are bad vs units. I think PvZ is in a bad spot right now but that game isn't a good example. | ||
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Alejandrisha
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On September 12 2020 15:26 lolfail9001 wrote: Hurricane is playing 2017 PvZ too much for my taste. might be the best route | ||
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On September 12 2020 15:30 NoS-Craig wrote: I want to see DT blink. you will edit: PSYCHE | ||
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And then lurker literally counters every ground protoss unit They can be countered by outplaying the Zerg atacking various places while you rush to air and defend with Templars but then Vipers and the increased lurker range come into play. Still, I think Soo played well and I hope he advances over inno! | ||
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Monochromatic
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On September 12 2020 15:36 [Phantom] wrote: I was talking more about the army interaction of Protods and Zerg as well as economy. Protoss harass don't do enough damage to the Zerg ever. I'm not even sure why they bother with the adepts anymore. And then lurker literally counters every ground protoss unit They can be countered by outplaying the Zerg atacking various places while you rush to air and defend with Templars but then Vipers and the increased lurker range come into play. Still, I think Soo played well and I hope he advances over inno! I don't disagree. I think zerg needs not nerfs but a major redesign of several key units and structures. | ||
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Argonauta
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On September 12 2020 15:36 [Phantom] wrote: I was talking more about the army interaction of Protods and Zerg as well as economy. Protoss harass don't do enough damage to the Zerg ever. I'm not even sure why they bother with the adepts anymore. And then lurker literally counters every ground protoss unit They can be countered by outplaying the Zerg atacking various places while you rush to air and defend with Templars but then Vipers and the increased lurker range come into play. Still, I think Soo played well and I hope he advances over inno! I find weird you make such strong statement when literally two series ago we saw Zoun destroying soO economy with adepts | ||
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On September 12 2020 16:18 Argonauta wrote: People excited about ByuN coming back but I'm like.... Patience <3 xD i didn't believe in byun,, but i also didn't believe in what's his face edit: zoun. yes. zoun is the one | ||
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FCHK
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On September 12 2020 16:17 swarminfestor wrote: I thought Rogue gonna pick up in Group A but it seemed like TY is still on the top seed? Yes http://stimg.afreecatv.com/NORMAL_BBS/3/9521573/63345f4090f89d372.png | ||
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seemsgood
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picking soO and bogus shouldve been no brainer but soO couldnt deliver :[ | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16021 Posts
On September 12 2020 15:23 lolfail9001 wrote: Show nested quote + On September 12 2020 15:22 Alejandrisha wrote: On September 12 2020 15:20 lolfail9001 wrote: On September 12 2020 15:19 [Phantom] wrote: IDK how someone could see that game and say that PvZ is balanced honestly But Soo played very well too. Well, it did not have the best protoss unit in it, after all. I actually don't remember last time i saw Protoss win a game of PvZ without building that particular best unit. the unit you are referring to is a hoax Facts remain. Tosses do lose to zergs building it, but i truly don't remember last time i saw protoss beat a zerg without it. Oh, and of course i don't refer to that great PvT all-in unit. I can't solve the puzzle... which unit are you talking about? | ||
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Durnuu
13322 Posts
On September 12 2020 20:47 Charoisaur wrote: Show nested quote + On September 12 2020 15:23 lolfail9001 wrote: On September 12 2020 15:22 Alejandrisha wrote: On September 12 2020 15:20 lolfail9001 wrote: On September 12 2020 15:19 [Phantom] wrote: IDK how someone could see that game and say that PvZ is balanced honestly But Soo played very well too. Well, it did not have the best protoss unit in it, after all. I actually don't remember last time i saw Protoss win a game of PvZ without building that particular best unit. the unit you are referring to is a hoax Facts remain. Tosses do lose to zergs building it, but i truly don't remember last time i saw protoss beat a zerg without it. Oh, and of course i don't refer to that great PvT all-in unit. I can't solve the puzzle... which unit are you talking about? The probe obviously | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16021 Posts
On September 12 2020 20:54 Durnuu wrote: Show nested quote + On September 12 2020 20:47 Charoisaur wrote: On September 12 2020 15:23 lolfail9001 wrote: On September 12 2020 15:22 Alejandrisha wrote: On September 12 2020 15:20 lolfail9001 wrote: On September 12 2020 15:19 [Phantom] wrote: IDK how someone could see that game and say that PvZ is balanced honestly But Soo played very well too. Well, it did not have the best protoss unit in it, after all. I actually don't remember last time i saw Protoss win a game of PvZ without building that particular best unit. the unit you are referring to is a hoax Facts remain. Tosses do lose to zergs building it, but i truly don't remember last time i saw protoss beat a zerg without it. Oh, and of course i don't refer to that great PvT all-in unit. I can't solve the puzzle... which unit are you talking about? The probe obviously but he built probes...? | ||
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BeoMulf
United States94 Posts
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tskarzyn
United States516 Posts
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Topin
Peru10098 Posts
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Drygioni
Japan379 Posts
![]() Also thought hurricane put up a pretty good fight vs soO, would like to see more of him in the future. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26223 Posts
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egrimm
Poland1199 Posts
![]() Sad to see soO go, definitely an end of era. Hope we will see him again sooner than later! | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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Niravroh
165 Posts
On September 14 2020 10:45 Caihead wrote: whoa that's crazy, beating two multi-champs to get out of the group first? Zoun to win it all? I loved watching Zoun, but I wouldn't bank on him too much. There's only so far you can get with gimmicky builds. INnoVation looked like he was hiding builds, since he pretty much did the same thing every game. And even then INnoVation was only 1 map away from winning. Also don't forget that soO is in very questionable form. Unless Zoun can somehow avoid every zerg for the rest of the tournament, I just don't see builds like that working against the likes of a Rogue or Dark, especially after they've been revealed already. | ||
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