On July 20 2020 23:49 ytherik wrote: It's mind-boggling how consistent Serral is with his level of play. Tournament after torunmanet he keeps delivering.
Since 2018 the only truly embarrassing tournament for Serral was TSL5 (even when eliminated he looks strong, or is already deep), although I guess with Serral anything that isn't a win kinda feels embarrassing
On July 20 2020 23:16 geokilla wrote: Serral vs Clem was pretty amazing
sure but i refuse to live in a world where in such group with 4 korean pros the only game that matters is between 2 EU dogs
We have to acknowledge the reality here that koreans simply dont give a sh... about these kind of online tournaments. They are attending for the practice using wonky test builds that sometimes work, sometimes not.
Whether its them being lazier than the Europeans, different mentality, practice regimen we can only speculate but aside from the biggest tournaments, I haven't seen the Koreans perform on the highest level and take the games seriously. Which is a big shame for us, viewers because we get hyped for these kind of groups and then the only good match is Serral vs Clem...
lol nice bait
The worlds best player continues to deliver I'd say
Truth is bait? The fact that Koreans are performing considerably worse on smaller events than in GSL/IEM/Blizzcon surely is undeniable right?
As I am saying not sure why that is and it kind of pisses me off but what can we do. Serral is truly special in this with his godlike consistency across all the events he attends, I only with the koreans had the same level of tenacity and winners mindset.
I mean just look at the last game of Rogue vs Clem. Rogue didnt even try, it was a wonky strategy that any better terran would punish so hard and win with the first push. Made for a good game in the end, but hardly a solid display...
On July 20 2020 23:16 geokilla wrote: Serral vs Clem was pretty amazing
sure but i refuse to live in a world where in such group with 4 korean pros the only game that matters is between 2 EU dogs
We have to acknowledge the reality here that koreans simply dont give a sh... about these kind of online tournaments. They are attending for the practice using wonky test builds that sometimes work, sometimes not.
Whether its them being lazier than the Europeans, different mentality, practice regimen we can only speculate but aside from the biggest tournaments, I haven't seen the Koreans perform on the highest level and take the games seriously. Which is a big shame for us, viewers because we get hyped for these kind of groups and then the only good match is Serral vs Clem...
lol nice bait
The worlds best player continues to deliver I'd say
The fact that Koreans are performing considerably worse on smaller events than in GSL/IEM/Blizzcon surely is undeniable right?
When opinion gets labeled as "undeniable fact" and "truth"...if I were feeling humorous, I'd imagine this were a CNN reporter who happens to be into SC2.
On July 20 2020 23:16 geokilla wrote: Serral vs Clem was pretty amazing
sure but i refuse to live in a world where in such group with 4 korean pros the only game that matters is between 2 EU dogs
We have to acknowledge the reality here that koreans simply dont give a sh... about these kind of online tournaments. They are attending for the practice using wonky test builds that sometimes work, sometimes not.
Whether its them being lazier than the Europeans, different mentality, practice regimen we can only speculate but aside from the biggest tournaments, I haven't seen the Koreans perform on the highest level and take the games seriously. Which is a big shame for us, viewers because we get hyped for these kind of groups and then the only good match is Serral vs Clem...
lol nice bait
The worlds best player continues to deliver I'd say
The fact that Koreans are performing considerably worse on smaller events than in GSL/IEM/Blizzcon surely is undeniable right?
When opinion gets labeled as "undeniable fact" and "truth"...if I were feeling humorous, I'd imagine this were a CNN reporter who happens to be into SC2.
I wouldn't say this is an deniable fact and truth, but it is known in sports, not just e-sports in general, that players never give it their 100% unless it counts. Just look at LeBron James if you watch NBA. He's usually coasting, going at the game at like probably 70% to 80% of his max potential.
Nothing wrong with this though. Players want to save builds or hide their strengths and weaknesses.
On July 20 2020 23:16 geokilla wrote: Serral vs Clem was pretty amazing
sure but i refuse to live in a world where in such group with 4 korean pros the only game that matters is between 2 EU dogs
We have to acknowledge the reality here that koreans simply dont give a sh... about these kind of online tournaments. They are attending for the practice using wonky test builds that sometimes work, sometimes not.
Whether its them being lazier than the Europeans, different mentality, practice regimen we can only speculate but aside from the biggest tournaments, I haven't seen the Koreans perform on the highest level and take the games seriously. Which is a big shame for us, viewers because we get hyped for these kind of groups and then the only good match is Serral vs Clem...
lol nice bait
The worlds best player continues to deliver I'd say
The fact that Koreans are performing considerably worse on smaller events than in GSL/IEM/Blizzcon surely is undeniable right?
When opinion gets labeled as "undeniable fact" and "truth"...if I were feeling humorous, I'd imagine this were a CNN reporter who happens to be into SC2.
I wouldn't say this is an deniable fact and truth, but it is known in sports, not just e-sports in general, that players never give it their 100% unless it counts. Just look at LeBron James if you watch NBA. He's usually coasting, going at the game at like probably 70% to 80% of his max potential.
Nothing wrong with this though. Players want to save builds or hide their strengths and weaknesses.
Were those KR protosses also hiding builds vs him in GSL v TW 2019, when Serral 3-1 all of them? Why would Trap hide builds that far into the tournament, where he could win 4k USD more and a premier win over a player whom every Korean would covet a win against, just to have a somewhat better chance at advancing into the highly overrated GSL tournament, where it's far from certain he would even make it out of his group?
On July 20 2020 23:16 geokilla wrote: Serral vs Clem was pretty amazing
sure but i refuse to live in a world where in such group with 4 korean pros the only game that matters is between 2 EU dogs
We have to acknowledge the reality here that koreans simply dont give a sh... about these kind of online tournaments. They are attending for the practice using wonky test builds that sometimes work, sometimes not.
Whether its them being lazier than the Europeans, different mentality, practice regimen we can only speculate but aside from the biggest tournaments, I haven't seen the Koreans perform on the highest level and take the games seriously. Which is a big shame for us, viewers because we get hyped for these kind of groups and then the only good match is Serral vs Clem...
lol nice bait
The worlds best player continues to deliver I'd say
The fact that Koreans are performing considerably worse on smaller events than in GSL/IEM/Blizzcon surely is undeniable right?
When opinion gets labeled as "undeniable fact" and "truth"...if I were feeling humorous, I'd imagine this were a CNN reporter who happens to be into SC2.
I wouldn't say this is an deniable fact and truth, but it is known in sports, not just e-sports in general, that players never give it their 100% unless it counts. Just look at LeBron James if you watch NBA. He's usually coasting, going at the game at like probably 70% to 80% of his max potential.
Nothing wrong with this though. Players want to save builds or hide their strengths and weaknesses.
Well, there are still some variety in the standart play. I don't think the comparaison is very fair considering Lebron is focusing on the nba playoff and he is paid for it while the money gained by Korean players depend largely from tournaments.
I mean even if Koreans couldn’t be arsed playing for money, tournament wins, Korean Starcraft pride etc, is Serral really sweating every tournament he enters?
Hell I remember the common consensus for years was SC2 was too volatile compared to see anything like this consistency unless a skill gap was huge (say Mvp going to MLGs early on).
Smartly played by Clem starving out Zest. Although the Korean could of read the game a bit better. He must of thought Clem was much more all in only trying to get his 4th base up 15 min in the game
On July 20 2020 23:16 geokilla wrote: Serral vs Clem was pretty amazing
sure but i refuse to live in a world where in such group with 4 korean pros the only game that matters is between 2 EU dogs
We have to acknowledge the reality here that koreans simply dont give a sh... about these kind of online tournaments. They are attending for the practice using wonky test builds that sometimes work, sometimes not.
Whether its them being lazier than the Europeans, different mentality, practice regimen we can only speculate but aside from the biggest tournaments, I haven't seen the Koreans perform on the highest level and take the games seriously. Which is a big shame for us, viewers because we get hyped for these kind of groups and then the only good match is Serral vs Clem...
lol nice bait
The worlds best player continues to deliver I'd say
The fact that Koreans are performing considerably worse on smaller events than in GSL/IEM/Blizzcon surely is undeniable right?
When opinion gets labeled as "undeniable fact" and "truth"...if I were feeling humorous, I'd imagine this were a CNN reporter who happens to be into SC2.
I wouldn't say this is an deniable fact and truth, but it is known in sports, not just e-sports in general, that players never give it their 100% unless it counts. Just look at LeBron James if you watch NBA. He's usually coasting, going at the game at like probably 70% to 80% of his max potential.
Nothing wrong with this though. Players want to save builds or hide their strengths and weaknesses.
Were those KR protosses also hiding builds vs him in GSL v TW 2019, when Serral 3-1 all of them? Why would Trap hide builds that far into the tournament, where he could win 4k USD more and a premier win over a player whom every Korean would covet a win against, just to have a somewhat better chance at advancing into the highly overrated GSL tournament, where it's far from certain he would even make it out of his group?
I was with you until the "overrated GSL tournament" part
EPT
