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Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
May 17 2020 20:05 GMT
#861
And they seriously want to buff the widowmine
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
May 17 2020 20:05 GMT
#862
On May 18 2020 05:04 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2020 05:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On May 18 2020 05:01 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Have I mentioned how much I hate the widow mine as a unit?
This game makes me feel like reiterating it.


Reynor does seem to have trouble avoiding the mines this game, but he also seems to be having trouble avoiding the marines.


I'm starting to blame lag. Reynor just doesn't look as crisp as he normally does ANYWHERE in his play, his control seems especially off.

Fucking EU to EU lag is unbearable
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
May 17 2020 20:05 GMT
#863
On May 18 2020 05:03 Zzzapper wrote:
2020 year of the foreign terran?


That's remarkable. I remember when foreign Terrans couldn't even beat Protoss with 1-1-1.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
May 17 2020 20:05 GMT
#864
On May 18 2020 05:04 ssg wrote:
What does day 9 do these days?

He's in game developing and streaming lots of MTG in his spare time.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
May 17 2020 20:06 GMT
#865
On May 18 2020 05:05 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2020 05:04 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 18 2020 05:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On May 18 2020 05:01 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Have I mentioned how much I hate the widow mine as a unit?
This game makes me feel like reiterating it.


Reynor does seem to have trouble avoiding the mines this game, but he also seems to be having trouble avoiding the marines.


I'm starting to blame lag. Reynor just doesn't look as crisp as he normally does ANYWHERE in his play, his control seems especially off.

Fucking EU to EU lag is unbearable

Italy has like 10 more ping than cologne
cancel the tournament imo
~~~~~
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
May 17 2020 20:06 GMT
#866
On May 18 2020 05:05 Z3nith wrote:
And they seriously want to buff the widowmine

The proposed change wouldn't have changed this particular game in any way, shape or form.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 17 2020 20:06 GMT
#867
On May 18 2020 05:06 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2020 05:05 Elentos wrote:
On May 18 2020 05:04 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 18 2020 05:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On May 18 2020 05:01 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Have I mentioned how much I hate the widow mine as a unit?
This game makes me feel like reiterating it.


Reynor does seem to have trouble avoiding the mines this game, but he also seems to be having trouble avoiding the marines.


I'm starting to blame lag. Reynor just doesn't look as crisp as he normally does ANYWHERE in his play, his control seems especially off.

Fucking EU to EU lag is unbearable

Italy has like 10 more ping than cologne
cancel the tournament imo

literally unplayable
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
May 17 2020 20:07 GMT
#868
Come on Reynor. You must have seen the writing on the wall by now. It's time to go full fiesta, it's the only way you can turn this around.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16097 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-17 20:07:28
May 17 2020 20:07 GMT
#869
On May 18 2020 05:05 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2020 05:04 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 18 2020 05:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On May 18 2020 05:01 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Have I mentioned how much I hate the widow mine as a unit?
This game makes me feel like reiterating it.


Reynor does seem to have trouble avoiding the mines this game, but he also seems to be having trouble avoiding the marines.


I'm starting to blame lag. Reynor just doesn't look as crisp as he normally does ANYWHERE in his play, his control seems especially off.

Fucking EU to EU lag is unbearable


Hey man, I gotta look for some explanation for why Reynor looks like this. This just doesn't look like him at all.

I know I was arguing yesterday that I've never seen him in a slump before, but yikes I wasn't expecting this.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
May 17 2020 20:07 GMT
#870
On May 18 2020 05:06 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2020 05:05 Elentos wrote:
On May 18 2020 05:04 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 18 2020 05:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On May 18 2020 05:01 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Have I mentioned how much I hate the widow mine as a unit?
This game makes me feel like reiterating it.


Reynor does seem to have trouble avoiding the mines this game, but he also seems to be having trouble avoiding the marines.


I'm starting to blame lag. Reynor just doesn't look as crisp as he normally does ANYWHERE in his play, his control seems especially off.

Fucking EU to EU lag is unbearable

Italy has like 10 more ping than cologne
cancel the tournament imo

Region lock every player separately imo.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Lucasmus
Profile Joined September 2015
35 Posts
May 17 2020 20:08 GMT
#871
Reynor losing means Reynor vs Serral in the loser's bracket soon! Or Parting vs Serral..
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
May 17 2020 20:08 GMT
#872
time for reynor to pull out some ravager pushes
~~~~~
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
May 17 2020 20:08 GMT
#873
I have a feeling Gabe is going to finally win a major this year.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
May 17 2020 20:08 GMT
#874
On May 18 2020 05:08 Lucasmus wrote:
Reynor losing means Reynor vs Serral in the loser's bracket soon! Or Parting vs Serral..

PartinG vs Vanya would be the toppest of keks.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 17 2020 20:09 GMT
#875
On May 18 2020 05:06 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2020 05:05 Elentos wrote:
On May 18 2020 05:04 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 18 2020 05:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On May 18 2020 05:01 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Have I mentioned how much I hate the widow mine as a unit?
This game makes me feel like reiterating it.


Reynor does seem to have trouble avoiding the mines this game, but he also seems to be having trouble avoiding the marines.


I'm starting to blame lag. Reynor just doesn't look as crisp as he normally does ANYWHERE in his play, his control seems especially off.

Fucking EU to EU lag is unbearable

Italy has like 10 more ping than cologne
cancel the tournament imo


Bring back the 'fairest' server rule to figure out if the Brazilian servers gives them both a more even ping.
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-17 20:10:15
May 17 2020 20:09 GMT
#876
On May 18 2020 05:06 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2020 05:05 Z3nith wrote:
And they seriously want to buff the widowmine

The proposed change wouldn't have changed this particular game in any way, shape or form.


Disagree, HeroMarine would have been able to use the permanent widowmine invisibility even earlier when he was hitting the fourth base with a ton of them.
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
May 17 2020 20:10 GMT
#877
On May 18 2020 04:54 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2020 04:48 BaneRiders wrote:
On May 18 2020 04:41 DieuCure wrote:
On May 18 2020 04:36 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 18 2020 04:34 DieuCure wrote:
On May 18 2020 04:29 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 18 2020 04:28 BaneRiders wrote:
On May 18 2020 04:25 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 18 2020 04:23 BaneRiders wrote:
So none of the invitees won their first match... They better improve if they want their EPT points.


Inno, Parting, and Cure are all top 8 in GSL right now, they're doing just fine on points. Can't say the same for a lot of the other guys.


Why should you earn EPT points without qualifying and without winning a single match?


Don't ask me?! I've been vehemently against those seeds since they announced them!


DRG qualified but Zest and INno couldn't have, come on.

They are both ro8 players they would've walked the qualifier, most of good KR players didn't even tried.


That's not the point.

The point is that just giving away seeds limits the number of people who could surprisingly qualify, and if you'd seen the qualifiers there is NO guarantee any of those guys would have qualified especially with all of the server drama.

There's also the point that you're just donating EPT points to players without them having to play for them.


It's quite rich to whine about it, there is nothing wrong with top players from each race to be seeded (I guess they tried for Maru, Stats, and Dark but it went wrong ), in the end it's providing us a really good tournament, and if it makes the organizer happy with inviting 4 of his favorites players, guaranteeing they are in (Serral could have skip it for example considering he will qualify for the IEM finals), considering there is a loser bracket, it's fine.


You are wrong again. They were not invited based on the race they are playing. And you are spot on with regards to organizers being allowed to invite their favorite players and handing them points for free: that is how you compromise the entire EPT system. Which you seems to be fine with. I think that is stupid.


Then you know better than the whole esport industry, there have been invitationals before and there will be in the future, if players, sponsors, and viewers think it's not worth it, then things will go your way I guess. You should just appreciate that TL organized another big and fair tournament and that ESL made it more interesting.


Now you are being daft again. I'm really appreciating this tournament, but it clearly has suffered from several issues so far and even the organizers have conceded as much. Yes, invitations has been handed out in the past, and one elegant solution is to only hand out points if invitees actually win a match, proving they were worth the free spot in the first place. Would love to see the same here. Obviously that would be a bit more fair than just handing out points based on past achievements.
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
May 17 2020 20:10 GMT
#878
On May 18 2020 05:09 Z3nith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2020 05:06 Elentos wrote:
On May 18 2020 05:05 Z3nith wrote:
And they seriously want to buff the widowmine

The proposed change wouldn't have changed this particular game in any way, shape or form.


Disagree, HeroMarine would have been able to use the Widowmine invisibility even earlier when he was hitting the fourth base with a ton of them.

Drilling claws was done the first time Heromarine moved out with mines.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16097 Posts
May 17 2020 20:11 GMT
#879
That's more like it!
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
May 17 2020 20:12 GMT
#880
On May 18 2020 05:10 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2020 05:09 Z3nith wrote:
On May 18 2020 05:06 Elentos wrote:
On May 18 2020 05:05 Z3nith wrote:
And they seriously want to buff the widowmine

The proposed change wouldn't have changed this particular game in any way, shape or form.


Disagree, HeroMarine would have been able to use the Widowmine invisibility even earlier when he was hitting the fourth base with a ton of them.

Drilling claws was done the first time Heromarine moved out with mines.


I didn't think it was, the zerglings were attacking them after they went off from what I remember.
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