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[GSL 2020] Code S - RO24 - Group E
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On April 25 2020 13:11 fastr wrote: Not building a single bunker vs a 3 rax when going 1 gas expend is asinine. Bomber deserved that. well, playing super greedy and hoping people don't call you on your bet is why Bomber was good in WoL. Can't blame him for playing the hits again (DRG with his muta-ling-bane too) | ||
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On April 25 2020 13:12 Waxangel wrote: well, playing super greedy and hoping people don't call you on your bet is why Bomber was good in WoL. Can't blame him for playing the hits again (DRG with his muta-ling-bane too) Good point, 1 rax gasless expand or die trying since 2010. | ||
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On April 25 2020 13:14 GreasedUpDeafGuy wrote: Tastosis is gatekeeping again... No, that's Curious  | ||
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On April 25 2020 13:20 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Is Bomber the oldest player to ever play in GSL? He might be, I can't think of anyone else. AFAIK Nestea was 32 when he retired but he wasnt playing in the GSL anymore. | ||
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On April 25 2020 13:00 Waxangel wrote: Amused to see who TY's fill-in caster is today. soO brings a dry sense of humor, Curious brings some actual try-hard. I can alwasy hope for INnoVation one day to fill the unintentional comedy quotient. Edit: it's Curious What is TY's casting like? | ||
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On April 25 2020 13:26 ssg wrote: Tastostis being nice to bomber here Boomers gotta look out for each other :D | ||
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sc fans after the veterans lose to the top 5 players in the world: "absolute garbage. i'm insulted these guys even show up. take away their sponsorships" | ||
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On April 25 2020 13:31 brickrd wrote: sc fans after veteran players qualify: "omg, the old greats! can't wait to see them play! i love this game!" sc fans after the veterans lose to the top 5 players in the world: "absolute garbage. i'm insulted these guys even show up. take away their sponsorships" It's almost like it's different people saying different things. | ||
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On April 25 2020 13:25 fastr wrote: He might be, I can't think of anyone else. AFAIK Nestea was 32 when he retired but he wasnt playing in the GSL anymore. Think boxer was the oldest for a while, but bomber has him beat by some months. Cmon old man you can still make it out | ||
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On April 25 2020 13:42 ZigguratOfUr wrote: It's the same song and dance as usual for today's PvZ, but rather poorly executed. And then it wasn't. I don't know how Dear did that but it was glorious. | ||
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On April 25 2020 13:44 Vindicare605 wrote: And then it wasn't. I don't know how Dear did that but it was glorious. It was more Armani falling apart than anything else. | ||
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On April 25 2020 13:45 whiterabbit wrote: Hey guys anyone knows if it is possible to access AfreecaTV Player PoV streams VODs? http://play.afreecatv.com/afgsl3/223143364 http://play.afreecatv.com/afgsl4/223143360 edit: Oh you said VODs so http://bj.afreecatv.com/afgsl3/vods http://bj.afreecatv.com/afgsl4/vods | ||
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On April 25 2020 13:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote: http://play.afreecatv.com/afgsl3/223143364 http://play.afreecatv.com/afgsl4/223143360 edit: Oh you said VODs so http://bj.afreecatv.com/afgsl3/vods http://bj.afreecatv.com/afgsl4/vods Oh man thank you so much, I am blind or dunno because I was trying to find how to access VODs last 3 GSL runs.  | ||
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On April 25 2020 13:57 Ej_ wrote: Anybody knows what Bomber's day job is? same curiosity ;O | ||
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On April 25 2020 14:16 Danglars wrote: Mech vs Protoss as TY. This is very interesting. this battle mech doesnt work well anymoar in tvz thank to new lurkers so my man caster brings it to TvP instead | ||
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On April 25 2020 14:26 Vindicare605 wrote: Nightshade, Eternal Empire, Everdream. Only maps that always are never vetoed. but overall this season has a decent map pool tho TvZ win rate goes skyrocket thanks to dat | ||
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On April 25 2020 14:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Lmao each time mech v P starts looking good fights like this happen. Well tbf Dear, without any vision, walked into TY just as the latter was moving his army down a ramp | ||
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And my games usually end with a protoss army just destroying my most defended mech position, whether I'm sieged or not. It's strong and I know that's why so many terrans go bio. | ||
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On April 25 2020 14:36 fastr wrote: Mech is decent to throw off someone in a series. Doing it twice in a row is asking to get a-moved by chargelots. I hope TY plays bio now battle mech s still viable i think, i want dude goes for it second time | ||
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On April 25 2020 14:38 catplanetcatplanet wrote: Riveting philosophical discourse from tastosis here The struggle to figure out what grade a 12 year old is in was real. | ||
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On April 25 2020 14:36 Ej_ wrote: Golden Wall actually seems like a dope map to tank push It's pretty much all I do on this map. | ||
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On April 25 2020 14:39 ZigguratOfUr wrote: The struggle to figure out what grade a 12 year old is in was real. "....I'm looking it up on my phone." | ||
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On April 25 2020 14:47 ZigguratOfUr wrote: That was the ugliest flank Dear could possibly have taken and he still somehow won. Half of the Terran army was hellions. TY was just selling supply. And he killed almost all of the immortals for it too. | ||
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On April 25 2020 14:48 Ej_ wrote: Half of the Terran army was hellions. TY was just selling supply. And he killed almost all of the immortals for it too. Yeah but only because Dear's immortals decided that marines were the perfect target. | ||
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On April 25 2020 14:47 ZigguratOfUr wrote: That was the ugliest flank Dear could possibly have taken and he still somehow won. I guess it was a mostly open field but still. if caster had his autobots roll-out into hellbats the result might be differrent | ||
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On April 25 2020 14:51 Topin wrote: wtf happened in TYs main? Dear demonstrated his mastery of engagements against tanks and libs. | ||
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cant stop that mech death push if letting them reach max supply | ||
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Just flank better, duh! | ||
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It feels like there has been one player per group who clearly doesn't belong in Code S. Today's group seem particularly bad though. I guess mech made this serie entertaining at least. | ||
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On April 25 2020 14:54 Weavel wrote: TY took lessons from Avilo? he took the lesson from Vision_ | ||
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On April 25 2020 14:54 darklycid wrote: I still think zealot Archon Immo with some storm maybe rolls those armies from Ty. I don't think Dear's composition was his main issue. | ||
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LOL, in that case Dear should have been coached by BerserkSword, we'd have had an incredible series | ||
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good fucking grief.... | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:11 Vindicare605 wrote: A Helbat/Marauder rush? What is this? 2013? If it's 2013 that bodes well for Bomber. | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:11 Vindicare605 wrote: A Helbat/Marauder rush? What is this? 2013? maru used this build a lot a couple weeks ago | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:11 Vindicare605 wrote: A Helbat/Marauder rush? What is this? 2013? This is a LotV build that was very popular just a year ago altho it was usually done as an all-in and Bomber here went for a macro follow up. | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:12 Ej_ wrote: This is a LotV build that was very popular just a year ago altho it was usually done as an all-in and Bomber here went for a macro follow up. but who was using it last year ?? ;O me literally have no memory of it | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:14 seemsgood wrote: but who was using it last year ?? ;O me literally have no memory of it Every 2nd Terran. | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:18 Andi_Goldberger wrote: bomber control definitely stuck in 2012 Even in 2012 he was always the player to just have more marines to replace those that died rather than the player with the crazy splits. | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:20 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Even in 2012 he was always the player to just have more marines to replace those that died rather than the player with the crazy splits. Can't go rax CC CC every game now tho so he has to play real games | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:20 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Even in 2012 he was always the player to just have more marines to replace those that died rather than the player with the crazy splits. Which is pretty much why head to head vs Marineking, Marineking usually beat him. Good old WoL had plenty of good TvT rivalries. | ||
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i enjoyed that | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:21 Ej_ wrote: Can't go rax CC CC every game now tho so he has to play real games good old antiga shipyard build 3rd CC at the 3rd at 3 minutes | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:24 Die4Ever wrote: how much reddit have Tastosis been reading lately? lol, or maybe Tastless's twitch chat is getting to him They literally named this forum as the source of that nonsense rhetoric. | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:25 Ej_ wrote: They literally named this forum as the source of that nonsense rhetoric. For SC1. I don't see that type of thing for SC2 ever on these forums. Pretty much everyone acknowledges how much higher the skill level is in SC2 now. Doesn't mean the GAMES are better or worse. What makes a good game is subjective depending on what you find entertaining. | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:25 Ej_ wrote: They literally named this forum as the source of that nonsense rhetoric. I don't think the argument is that players had more game knowledge and skill before, just that the game was more competitive before we used to have more players, practicing harder, for bigger salaries yea players are still getting better, but not at as high of a rate and now they just had to shrink Code S cause there aren't enough "Code S level players" remaining | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:25 Ej_ wrote: They literally named this forum as the source of that nonsense rhetoric. That Stuchiu article wasn't even published on TL. | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:24 Die4Ever wrote: how much reddit have Tastosis been reading lately? lol, or maybe Tastless's twitch chat is getting to him this is pretty cringe right now they are ignoring all the scientific literature regarding reaction time vs age | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:27 Vindicare605 wrote: For SC1. I don't see that type of thing for SC2 ever on these forums. Pretty much everyone acknowledges how much higher the skill level is in SC2 now. Doesn't mean the GAMES are better or worse. What makes a good game is subjective depending on what you find entertaining. ah yea for SC1, I guess that's where they read it from | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:28 Die4Ever wrote: I don't think the argument is that players had more game knowledge and skill before, just that the game was more competitive before we used to have more players, practicing harder, for bigger salaries yea players are still getting better, but not at as high of a rate Obviously neither BW or SC2 are nearly as competitive as they were 5 years ago when there were 20 or more active progamers, but I have seen multiple claims in the threads here that the players were better in 2015 when me, the superior expert, had interest in the game. | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote: That Stuchiu article wasn't even published on TL. I am fortunate enough to not know what you are talking about | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:30 Ej_ wrote: I am fortunate enough to not know what you are talking about It's probably for the better. | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:32 Andi_Goldberger wrote: why the fuck did bomber make his 4th an OC lol It' standard. | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:32 Andi_Goldberger wrote: why the fuck did bomber make his 4th an OC lol It was from his main | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:34 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Nightshade's really the best map for that style.Eternal Empire will be a bit trickier, so I wonder if Bomber has anything different prepared. Well it's Bomber, so probably not. | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:34 GreasedUpDeafGuy wrote: Tasteless saying things like "the hatchery is still alive" when the hatchery means literally nothing, shows you can't value anything he says He's too old to commentate | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:35 Ej_ wrote: Do you guys think DeafGreasedGuy is a regular forum troll or a regular madman who listens to Tastosis just to pick little fights with windmills, use strawman arguments and try to prove something to the Internet? angry Im right? too bad | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:34 GreasedUpDeafGuy wrote: Tasteless saying things like "the hatchery is still alive" when the hatchery means literally nothing, shows you can't value anything he says I've noticed that tastetosis sc2 game knowledge has taken a nosedive over the last couple of years. | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:37 Andi_Goldberger wrote: tastosis commentary was better 5 years ago just like game quality :^) Hard disagree. They have off and on nights but they definitely are just as hilarious as they've always been. | ||
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Confirmed as a troll. | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:38 BerserkSword wrote: I've noticed that tastetosis sc2 game knowledge has taken a nosedive over the last couple of years. careful, the fanboys will reee | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:38 blooblooblahblah wrote: Wtf was this a gasless expand? Marine expand with SCV scout. Yes. | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:38 BerserkSword wrote: I've noticed that tastetosis sc2 game knowledge has taken a nosedive over the last couple of years. Of course you'd think that, literally every opinion you hold about starcraft is wrong | ||
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Into 3 rax medivac, is this 2011? | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:39 fastr wrote: Of course you'd think that, literally every opinion you hold about starcraft is wrong Don't address it directly or it will engage! | ||
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I am seeing a spire so a strong possibly from me. | ||
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My bad, I won't do it again. Is there no mute/ignore function on TL? I'd gladly use it for this specimen | ||
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Welcome back to Samba GSL Open | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:41 fastr wrote: My bad, I won't do it again. Is there no mute/ignore function on TL? I'd gladly use it for this specimen I have personally lobbied for an ignore for years, but there is none. Some guy made an applet for 1 browser. It is easy to search/google and maybe it works on yours. | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:39 fastr wrote: Of course you'd think that, literally every opinion you hold about starcraft is wrong wow you must be one of the many i've destroyed in debate lol | ||
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this world is fucked | ||
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rip the dream | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:43 seemsgood wrote: tasteless haters in 2020 ?? this world is fucked It's just 2 forum trolls. Ignore it. | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:42 Ej_ wrote: I have personally lobbied for an ignore for years, but there is none. Some guy made an applet for 1 browser. It is easy to search/google and maybe it works on yours. Can't be arse to clutter my browser with more extensions but thanks anyway. I don't see bomber winning against an 80 drone count, he has no late game | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:43 seemsgood wrote: tasteless haters in 2020 ?? this world is fucked i love tastetosis as casters. their job , for me, is to entertain. they are entertaining doesnt mean their game knowledge is up to par imo compare their sc2 casting to bw casting and youll see the stark difference. You'll never see them rambling about the Alien series and whatnot in BW. they know their stuff in BW. SC2 not so much | ||
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except i woulda thought TY would have a bit of a tougher time, but glad he didn't Bomber though :/ | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:47 Schelim wrote: well this group has gone pretty much as i expected except i woulda thought TY would have a bit of a tougher time, but glad he didn't Bomber though :/ well no one expected him to go mech vs Protoss 3 games in a row. | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:47 Vindicare605 wrote: well no one expected him to go mech vs Protoss 3 games in a row. "expected" would definitely be a strong word but TY is the only player where that didn't shock me per se either | ||
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On April 25 2020 15:47 Vindicare605 wrote: well no one expected him to go mech vs Protoss 3 games in a row. mech could be his go to strat from now on.youtube just recommended me his mech game vs zest in wardi tournament and dude won convincingly just dont go mech against Trap but besides that he could win against any protoss in a BO3 with mech i believe | ||
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On April 25 2020 16:07 seemsgood wrote: mech could be his go to strat from now on.youtube just recommended me his mech game vs zest in wardi tournament and dude won convincingly just dont go mech against Trap but besides that he could win against any protoss in a BO3 with mech i believe I'd add stats to that list. Stats beat Maru's mech last year. Don't think TY can take stats down with mech in a macro game | ||
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On April 25 2020 16:09 BerserkSword wrote: I'd add stats to that list. Stats beat Maru's mech last year. Don't think TY can take stats down with mech in a macro game Maru went pure Battle Mech in a long game vs Protoss. Not really the same thing that TY was doing. | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On April 25 2020 16:11 Vindicare605 wrote: Maru went pure Battle Mech in a long game vs Protoss. Not really the same thing that TY was doing. He didn't go pure battle mech the whole game. He transitioned to thor tank. I just cant see TY beating stats (or trap) with mech | ||
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seemsgood
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On April 25 2020 16:11 Vindicare605 wrote: Maru went pure Battle Mech in a long game vs Protoss. Not really the same thing that TY was doing. yah,this is the refined mech version that was used against Parting less vulnerable to dem naruto running chargelots On April 25 2020 16:09 BerserkSword wrote: I'd add stats to that list. Stats beat Maru's mech last year. Don't think TY can take stats down with mech in a macro game my boii stats is captain marvel right now but on theory,yes | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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DBooN
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seemsgood
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On April 25 2020 16:14 BerserkSword wrote: He didn't go pure battle mech the whole game. He transitioned to thor tank. I just cant see TY beating stats (or trap) with mech but dude didnt use banshees and still keeped a substantial amount of cyclones in late game mary didnt do death push before golden armada either | ||
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darklycid
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ZigguratOfUr
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Olli
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pvsnp
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- Dear 2020 | ||
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darklycid
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pvsnp
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seemsgood
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On April 25 2020 16:20 pvsnp wrote: "But then I lost to mechanic and I was kind of sad." - Dear 2020 its just like losing to yolo negev spammers in CS:GO ;OOo | ||
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darklycid
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Edit: lol at the Zest shoutout :D | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On April 25 2020 16:19 seemsgood wrote: but dude didnt use banshees and still keeped a substantial amount of cyclones in late game mary didnt do death push before golden armada either Stats actually lost to gumiho's banshee mech yes (and Maru's first mech game where stats went disruptor tempest). TY's mech is kind of more conventional in that it's not as aggressive early on imo though. TY has used the defensive mech style against parting, hero, and dear. sometimes incorporating banshees but ultimately relying on a huge max push. | ||
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RatzBarcode
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On April 25 2020 16:25 RatzBarcode wrote: Dear has had one of the strangest careers in Sc2, it reminds me of Zest's or Solar's a lot. Doesnt Zest have like 2nd most all kills of all time and code S winner lol i think dear is like solar. elite af but has yet to reach the pinnacle. | ||
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darklycid
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On April 25 2020 16:27 BerserkSword wrote: Doesnt Zest have like 2nd most all kills of all time and code S winner lol i think dear is like solar. elite af but has yet to reach the pinnacle. I mean he already reached the pinnacle i'd say, but then he fell off and is cursed since to never reach it again | ||
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Elentos
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On April 25 2020 16:24 BerserkSword wrote: Stats actually lost to gumiho's banshee mech yes (and Maru's first mech game where stats went disruptor tempest). TY's mech is kind of more conventional in that it's not as aggressive early on imo though. TY has used the defensive mech style against parting, hero, and dear. sometimes incorporating banshees but ultimately relying on a huge max push. The point of TY's mech builds is to not die to chargelot/archon busts when you're on 3 bases. Also it's safe to say TY vs Stats wouldn't look anything like TY vs Dear today. TY said Stats was one of his main practice partners for today (and really he's been one of his main Protoss practice partners for years), any match between them is bound to be mind game heavy. My memory of TY vs Stats matches of the past few years doesn't ring up any normal games but a lot of crappy games that ended in 8-ish minutes. | ||
Zealously
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On April 25 2020 16:27 BerserkSword wrote: Doesnt Zest have like 2nd most all kills of all time and code S winner lol i think dear is like solar. elite af but has yet to reach the pinnacle. 2013 was Dear's pinnacle in all likelihood, dude was absolutely insane for a half-year stretch or so | ||
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Elentos
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On April 25 2020 16:35 Zealously wrote: 2013 was Dear's pinnacle in all likelihood, dude was absolutely insane for a half-year stretch or so And then he joined mouz and it was all over. Also should have probably won Blizzcon that year but lost to Jaedong instead, that was yikes. | ||
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Ej_
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On April 25 2020 16:35 Zealously wrote: 2013 was Dear's pinnacle in all likelihood, dude was absolutely insane for a half-year stretch or so ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/kaKnREZ.png) | ||
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parksonsc
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On April 25 2020 16:27 BerserkSword wrote: Doesnt Zest have like 2nd most all kills of all time and code S winner lol i think dear is like solar. elite af but has yet to reach the pinnacle. Dear won a GSL, that alone is enough to put him in a league above Solar. | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On April 26 2020 00:43 parksonsc wrote: Dear won a GSL, that alone is enough to put him in a league above Solar. Uhh I also think Dear at his peak was better than Solar at his, but Solar more than matches Dear for results. | ||
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Die4Ever
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On April 25 2020 16:29 darklycid wrote: I mean he already reached the pinnacle i'd say, but then he fell off and is cursed since to never reach it again By pinnacle I mean like undisputed best player in the world for a stretch of time On April 25 2020 16:35 Zealously wrote: 2013 was Dear's pinnacle in all likelihood, dude was absolutely insane for a half-year stretch or so I agree 2013 was his pinnacle but it wasnt at the pinnacle of sc2 imo. I think when dear was at his pinnacle there were stronger players On April 26 2020 00:43 parksonsc wrote: Dear won a GSL, that alone is enough to put him in a league above Solar. Solar won SSL among many other things | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On April 26 2020 07:03 BerserkSword wrote: By pinnacle I mean like undisputed best player in the world for a stretch of time I agree 2013 was his pinnacle but it wasnt at the pinnacle of sc2 imo. I think when dear was at his pinnacle there were stronger players Solar won SSL among many other things I definitely think that when Dear won WCS Korea and the Season 3 Finals there was no player you could reasonably say was better than him at that moment. It was a pretty brief window of time, since he got soundly put back into place at Blizzcon, but it was definitely a peak. Not as glamorous as a Maru, Innovation or Life, but regardless. | ||
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