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seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
April 18 2020 07:17 GMT
#121
On April 18 2020 16:13 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
So what did Impact veto rather than P&I?

DRG would ve delivered a better series
Cure pulled a TvT exclusive move and it still worked somehow
Lil_nooblet
Profile Joined March 2016
United States459 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-18 07:19:05
April 18 2020 07:18 GMT
#122
On April 18 2020 16:17 Morbidius wrote:
I'm really not liking this meta, not a single series i'd rate more than 3/5 so far in GSL.


We lost a couple really good players in the offseason and we also have 4 players seeded into the ro16 so the groups seem to be a bit lopsided with a lot of bad games. I think the upcoming groups will be a bit better.
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
April 18 2020 07:19 GMT
#123
On April 18 2020 16:14 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2020 16:13 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
So what did Impact veto rather than P&I?

He probably wantes to play this map just to play muta. Not like the previous game was close.

pretty sure he will go for muta then ultra into lose regardless of map tho
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 18 2020 07:20 GMT
#124
On April 18 2020 16:17 Morbidius wrote:
I'm really not liking this meta, not a single series i'd rate more than 3/5 so far in GSL.


No love for sOs vs Bunny?
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-18 07:22:43
April 18 2020 07:21 GMT
#125
On April 18 2020 16:18 Lil_nooblet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2020 16:17 Morbidius wrote:
I'm really not liking this meta, not a single series i'd rate more than 3/5 so far in GSL.


We lost a couple really good players in the offseason and we also have 4 players seeded into the ro16 so the groups seem to be a bit lopsided with a lot of bad games. I think the upcoming groups will be a bit better.

I think the seed into the RO16 is a bad move, we get to see less of the top players, the ones with the most fans and who bring the viewers in.

On April 18 2020 16:20 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2020 16:17 Morbidius wrote:
I'm really not liking this meta, not a single series i'd rate more than 3/5 so far in GSL.


No love for sOs vs Bunny?


One amusing proxy Nexus cheese is hardly a gamechanger.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-18 07:39:51
April 18 2020 07:31 GMT
#126
On April 18 2020 16:21 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2020 16:18 Lil_nooblet wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:17 Morbidius wrote:
I'm really not liking this meta, not a single series i'd rate more than 3/5 so far in GSL.


We lost a couple really good players in the offseason and we also have 4 players seeded into the ro16 so the groups seem to be a bit lopsided with a lot of bad games. I think the upcoming groups will be a bit better.

I think the seed into the RO16 is a bad move, we get to see less of the top players, the ones with the most fans and who bring the viewers in.

I wonder if the reason why they did it is because they didn't think there were enough "Code S level players" remaining

I think 5 Code S players have retired recently? so it makes sense to shrink the tournament by 4 players to compensate
(24 players in this group stage, and 4 are seeded into the next stage, means 28 Code S players instead of 32, it's the only way to have a 28 player tournament and end up with the 2nd stage consisting of 4 players per group)
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-18 07:51:34
April 18 2020 07:51 GMT
#127
On April 18 2020 16:31 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2020 16:21 Morbidius wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:18 Lil_nooblet wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:17 Morbidius wrote:
I'm really not liking this meta, not a single series i'd rate more than 3/5 so far in GSL.


We lost a couple really good players in the offseason and we also have 4 players seeded into the ro16 so the groups seem to be a bit lopsided with a lot of bad games. I think the upcoming groups will be a bit better.

I think the seed into the RO16 is a bad move, we get to see less of the top players, the ones with the most fans and who bring the viewers in.

I wonder if the reason why they did it is because they didn't think there were enough "Code S level players" remaining

I think 5 Code S players have retired recently? so it makes sense to shrink the tournament by 4 players to compensate
(24 players in this group stage, and 4 are seeded into the next stage, means 28 Code S players instead of 32, it's the only way to have a 28 player tournament and end up with the 2nd stage consisting of 4 players per group)

There weren't enough ''code S'' players for the last two years already, the GSL hierarchy was already very rigid and the participants who are just cannon fodder were obvious.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-18 07:57:39
April 18 2020 07:57 GMT
#128
On April 18 2020 16:31 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2020 16:21 Morbidius wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:18 Lil_nooblet wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:17 Morbidius wrote:
I'm really not liking this meta, not a single series i'd rate more than 3/5 so far in GSL.


We lost a couple really good players in the offseason and we also have 4 players seeded into the ro16 so the groups seem to be a bit lopsided with a lot of bad games. I think the upcoming groups will be a bit better.

I think the seed into the RO16 is a bad move, we get to see less of the top players, the ones with the most fans and who bring the viewers in.

I wonder if the reason why they did it is because they didn't think there were enough "Code S level players" remaining

I think 5 Code S players have retired recently? so it makes sense to shrink the tournament by 4 players to compensate
(24 players in this group stage, and 4 are seeded into the next stage, means 28 Code S players instead of 32, it's the only way to have a 28 player tournament and end up with the 2nd stage consisting of 4 players per group)

6 players from 2019 S3 retired. The player pool is indeed very limited at this point and if they still had 32 spots the qualifiers would probably barely count as competitive and people would almost never miss a season. And if they do, it'd be in favor of players who are on the level of TRUE or kiwian.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-18 08:18:40
April 18 2020 08:05 GMT
#129
On April 18 2020 16:51 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2020 16:31 Die4Ever wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:21 Morbidius wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:18 Lil_nooblet wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:17 Morbidius wrote:
I'm really not liking this meta, not a single series i'd rate more than 3/5 so far in GSL.


We lost a couple really good players in the offseason and we also have 4 players seeded into the ro16 so the groups seem to be a bit lopsided with a lot of bad games. I think the upcoming groups will be a bit better.

I think the seed into the RO16 is a bad move, we get to see less of the top players, the ones with the most fans and who bring the viewers in.

I wonder if the reason why they did it is because they didn't think there were enough "Code S level players" remaining

I think 5 Code S players have retired recently? so it makes sense to shrink the tournament by 4 players to compensate
(24 players in this group stage, and 4 are seeded into the next stage, means 28 Code S players instead of 32, it's the only way to have a 28 player tournament and end up with the 2nd stage consisting of 4 players per group)

There weren't enough ''code S'' players for the last two years already, the GSL hierarchy was already very rigid and the participants who are just cannon fodder were obvious.

Yes and it's only getting worse.

My guess is they looked at all the players that played in Code S and in the qualifiers throughout 2019, excluded the new retirees, and then they pick their top players from that list and they ended up with about 28 players that they thought were good enough so they made the tournament 28 players large

Either that or they simply figured 6 less players, and the ro32 was already letting in some weaker players, gotta trim at least 4 spots.

IMO it wouldn't have been too crazy if they dropped all the way down to 24 players, but that would change the format more and we wouldn't get to see some of these returning players. Or they could've just changed the name of the ro32 to call it Code A, and then Code S is just the top 16. But maybe that would've given off a negative vibe
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1798 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-18 08:36:41
April 18 2020 08:32 GMT
#130
On April 18 2020 16:57 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2020 16:31 Die4Ever wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:21 Morbidius wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:18 Lil_nooblet wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:17 Morbidius wrote:
I'm really not liking this meta, not a single series i'd rate more than 3/5 so far in GSL.


We lost a couple really good players in the offseason and we also have 4 players seeded into the ro16 so the groups seem to be a bit lopsided with a lot of bad games. I think the upcoming groups will be a bit better.

I think the seed into the RO16 is a bad move, we get to see less of the top players, the ones with the most fans and who bring the viewers in.

I wonder if the reason why they did it is because they didn't think there were enough "Code S level players" remaining

I think 5 Code S players have retired recently? so it makes sense to shrink the tournament by 4 players to compensate
(24 players in this group stage, and 4 are seeded into the next stage, means 28 Code S players instead of 32, it's the only way to have a 28 player tournament and end up with the 2nd stage consisting of 4 players per group)

6 players from 2019 S3 retired. The player pool is indeed very limited at this point and if they still had 32 spots the qualifiers would probably barely count as competitive and people would almost never miss a season. And if they do, it'd be in favor of players who are on the level of TRUE or kiwian.


And among those 6 you have Gumi, Classic, and herO who are among the few players who made ro16 5 out of 6 times in the last 2 years (Dark being the only 6/6). The ro32 was already very tiered between a group of players who usually advanced and one who rarely or never did.

I made a spreadsheet once but didn't save it so I don't have the exact numbers. It was something like 85% of the ro16 spots for the last 2 years being taken by the same 20 players. Now, 3 of those 20 are gone (and 3 of the most consistent ones, even) as well as 3 players at he upper end of the 2nd tier. That doesn't just soften up the first group stage, it also leaves a lot of room in the ro16.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-18 08:38:11
April 18 2020 08:37 GMT
#131
On April 18 2020 17:32 Zzzapper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2020 16:57 Elentos wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:31 Die4Ever wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:21 Morbidius wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:18 Lil_nooblet wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:17 Morbidius wrote:
I'm really not liking this meta, not a single series i'd rate more than 3/5 so far in GSL.


We lost a couple really good players in the offseason and we also have 4 players seeded into the ro16 so the groups seem to be a bit lopsided with a lot of bad games. I think the upcoming groups will be a bit better.

I think the seed into the RO16 is a bad move, we get to see less of the top players, the ones with the most fans and who bring the viewers in.

I wonder if the reason why they did it is because they didn't think there were enough "Code S level players" remaining

I think 5 Code S players have retired recently? so it makes sense to shrink the tournament by 4 players to compensate
(24 players in this group stage, and 4 are seeded into the next stage, means 28 Code S players instead of 32, it's the only way to have a 28 player tournament and end up with the 2nd stage consisting of 4 players per group)

6 players from 2019 S3 retired. The player pool is indeed very limited at this point and if they still had 32 spots the qualifiers would probably barely count as competitive and people would almost never miss a season. And if they do, it'd be in favor of players who are on the level of TRUE or kiwian.


And between those 6 you have Gumi, Classic, and herO who are among the few players who made ro16 5 out of 6 times in the last 2 years (Dark being the only 6/6). The ro32 was already very tiered between a group of players who usually advanced and one who rarely or never did.

I made a spreadsheet once but didn't save it so I don't have the exact numbers. It was something like 85% of the ro16 spots for the last 2 years being taken by the same 20 players. Now, 3 of those 20 are gone (and 3 of the most consistent ones, even) as well as 3 players at he upper end of the 2nd tier. That doesn't just soften up the first group stage, it also leaves a lot of room in the ro16.

Just the region lock doing its thing, starving out the Korean scene, just like everyone said it would.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
April 18 2020 08:59 GMT
#132
On April 18 2020 17:37 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2020 17:32 Zzzapper wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:57 Elentos wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:31 Die4Ever wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:21 Morbidius wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:18 Lil_nooblet wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:17 Morbidius wrote:
I'm really not liking this meta, not a single series i'd rate more than 3/5 so far in GSL.


We lost a couple really good players in the offseason and we also have 4 players seeded into the ro16 so the groups seem to be a bit lopsided with a lot of bad games. I think the upcoming groups will be a bit better.

I think the seed into the RO16 is a bad move, we get to see less of the top players, the ones with the most fans and who bring the viewers in.

I wonder if the reason why they did it is because they didn't think there were enough "Code S level players" remaining

I think 5 Code S players have retired recently? so it makes sense to shrink the tournament by 4 players to compensate
(24 players in this group stage, and 4 are seeded into the next stage, means 28 Code S players instead of 32, it's the only way to have a 28 player tournament and end up with the 2nd stage consisting of 4 players per group)

6 players from 2019 S3 retired. The player pool is indeed very limited at this point and if they still had 32 spots the qualifiers would probably barely count as competitive and people would almost never miss a season. And if they do, it'd be in favor of players who are on the level of TRUE or kiwian.


And between those 6 you have Gumi, Classic, and herO who are among the few players who made ro16 5 out of 6 times in the last 2 years (Dark being the only 6/6). The ro32 was already very tiered between a group of players who usually advanced and one who rarely or never did.

I made a spreadsheet once but didn't save it so I don't have the exact numbers. It was something like 85% of the ro16 spots for the last 2 years being taken by the same 20 players. Now, 3 of those 20 are gone (and 3 of the most consistent ones, even) as well as 3 players at he upper end of the 2nd tier. That doesn't just soften up the first group stage, it also leaves a lot of room in the ro16.

Just the region lock doing its thing, starving out the Korean scene, just like everyone said it would.

I m pretty sure, that the Match fixing scandal had a way bigger impact on the Kr scene, as that was the reason why Proleague and most of proleague teams disbanded. Region lock isn t affecting the Tier 3-4 Kr players, as they wouldn t break even on oversees trips anyways.
MaxPax
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
April 18 2020 10:33 GMT
#133
Expected results and games weren't all that great. Kind of a disappointing night of SC2 IMO.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
LemonyTang
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom437 Posts
April 18 2020 12:06 GMT
#134
True the games were a little lackluster but the casting was hilarious today. Tastosis at their very best. Almost better when the games are worse because Tasteless starts taking the piss more
Mvp #1
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
April 18 2020 12:23 GMT
#135
zerg getting massacred, buff pls

I Protoss winner, could it be?
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
April 18 2020 13:27 GMT
#136
On April 18 2020 17:32 Zzzapper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2020 16:57 Elentos wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:31 Die4Ever wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:21 Morbidius wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:18 Lil_nooblet wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:17 Morbidius wrote:
I'm really not liking this meta, not a single series i'd rate more than 3/5 so far in GSL.


We lost a couple really good players in the offseason and we also have 4 players seeded into the ro16 so the groups seem to be a bit lopsided with a lot of bad games. I think the upcoming groups will be a bit better.

I think the seed into the RO16 is a bad move, we get to see less of the top players, the ones with the most fans and who bring the viewers in.

I wonder if the reason why they did it is because they didn't think there were enough "Code S level players" remaining

I think 5 Code S players have retired recently? so it makes sense to shrink the tournament by 4 players to compensate
(24 players in this group stage, and 4 are seeded into the next stage, means 28 Code S players instead of 32, it's the only way to have a 28 player tournament and end up with the 2nd stage consisting of 4 players per group)

6 players from 2019 S3 retired. The player pool is indeed very limited at this point and if they still had 32 spots the qualifiers would probably barely count as competitive and people would almost never miss a season. And if they do, it'd be in favor of players who are on the level of TRUE or kiwian.


And among those 6 you have Gumi, Classic, and herO who are among the few players who made ro16 5 out of 6 times in the last 2 years (Dark being the only 6/6). The ro32 was already very tiered between a group of players who usually advanced and one who rarely or never did.

I made a spreadsheet once but didn't save it so I don't have the exact numbers. It was something like 85% of the ro16 spots for the last 2 years being taken by the same 20 players. Now, 3 of those 20 are gone (and 3 of the most consistent ones, even) as well as 3 players at he upper end of the 2nd tier. That doesn't just soften up the first group stage, it also leaves a lot of room in the ro16.


We also lost True starting this week, IDK if Stats and soO will make until the end of the year.
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argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2722 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-18 14:24:56
April 18 2020 14:19 GMT
#137
On April 18 2020 17:59 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2020 17:37 Morbidius wrote:
On April 18 2020 17:32 Zzzapper wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:57 Elentos wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:31 Die4Ever wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:21 Morbidius wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:18 Lil_nooblet wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:17 Morbidius wrote:
I'm really not liking this meta, not a single series i'd rate more than 3/5 so far in GSL.


We lost a couple really good players in the offseason and we also have 4 players seeded into the ro16 so the groups seem to be a bit lopsided with a lot of bad games. I think the upcoming groups will be a bit better.

I think the seed into the RO16 is a bad move, we get to see less of the top players, the ones with the most fans and who bring the viewers in.

I wonder if the reason why they did it is because they didn't think there were enough "Code S level players" remaining

I think 5 Code S players have retired recently? so it makes sense to shrink the tournament by 4 players to compensate
(24 players in this group stage, and 4 are seeded into the next stage, means 28 Code S players instead of 32, it's the only way to have a 28 player tournament and end up with the 2nd stage consisting of 4 players per group)

6 players from 2019 S3 retired. The player pool is indeed very limited at this point and if they still had 32 spots the qualifiers would probably barely count as competitive and people would almost never miss a season. And if they do, it'd be in favor of players who are on the level of TRUE or kiwian.


And between those 6 you have Gumi, Classic, and herO who are among the few players who made ro16 5 out of 6 times in the last 2 years (Dark being the only 6/6). The ro32 was already very tiered between a group of players who usually advanced and one who rarely or never did.

I made a spreadsheet once but didn't save it so I don't have the exact numbers. It was something like 85% of the ro16 spots for the last 2 years being taken by the same 20 players. Now, 3 of those 20 are gone (and 3 of the most consistent ones, even) as well as 3 players at he upper end of the 2nd tier. That doesn't just soften up the first group stage, it also leaves a lot of room in the ro16.

Just the region lock doing its thing, starving out the Korean scene, just like everyone said it would.

I m pretty sure, that the Match fixing scandal had a way bigger impact on the Kr scene, as that was the reason why Proleague and most of proleague teams disbanded. Region lock isn t affecting the Tier 3-4 Kr players, as they wouldn t break even on oversees trips anyways.

I feel like the biggest reason is because SC2 is a ten year old game, and it's brutal. Older pros only get older while younger pros enter at a limited pace because they're more likely exposed to newer, more accessible games. The only reason there are still relatively young SC2 pros out there is because this is the most famous/competitive RTS out there and is made by Blizzard. And this type of game will always have a niche for a small subset of the population.

Actually high school or younger would be the best time to go pro here as college and above people would be "distracted" by other life priorities, especially in a competitive place like South Korea. Kids/adults would probably rather play a fun 5v5 game with their friends to relieve their real-life stress rather than experience ladder anxiety (doesn't Inno like to watch/play a lot of LoL?). This is a also game that's non-team centric due to its 1v1 focus so high-paying team sponsorship would be hard to come by unless there's a sustained team league.

The question is: are there any other competitive esports 1v1 RTS, or for that matter any 1v1 esports out there that is as successful as SC2 right now currently as an esport (new games notwithstanding)?

This is coming from someone who's only ever played a couple days of SC2 but has been watching since 2012.
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-18 19:06:48
April 18 2020 18:56 GMT
#138
On April 18 2020 23:19 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2020 17:59 dbRic1203 wrote:
On April 18 2020 17:37 Morbidius wrote:
On April 18 2020 17:32 Zzzapper wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:57 Elentos wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:31 Die4Ever wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:21 Morbidius wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:18 Lil_nooblet wrote:
On April 18 2020 16:17 Morbidius wrote:
I'm really not liking this meta, not a single series i'd rate more than 3/5 so far in GSL.


We lost a couple really good players in the offseason and we also have 4 players seeded into the ro16 so the groups seem to be a bit lopsided with a lot of bad games. I think the upcoming groups will be a bit better.

I think the seed into the RO16 is a bad move, we get to see less of the top players, the ones with the most fans and who bring the viewers in.

I wonder if the reason why they did it is because they didn't think there were enough "Code S level players" remaining

I think 5 Code S players have retired recently? so it makes sense to shrink the tournament by 4 players to compensate
(24 players in this group stage, and 4 are seeded into the next stage, means 28 Code S players instead of 32, it's the only way to have a 28 player tournament and end up with the 2nd stage consisting of 4 players per group)

6 players from 2019 S3 retired. The player pool is indeed very limited at this point and if they still had 32 spots the qualifiers would probably barely count as competitive and people would almost never miss a season. And if they do, it'd be in favor of players who are on the level of TRUE or kiwian.


And between those 6 you have Gumi, Classic, and herO who are among the few players who made ro16 5 out of 6 times in the last 2 years (Dark being the only 6/6). The ro32 was already very tiered between a group of players who usually advanced and one who rarely or never did.

I made a spreadsheet once but didn't save it so I don't have the exact numbers. It was something like 85% of the ro16 spots for the last 2 years being taken by the same 20 players. Now, 3 of those 20 are gone (and 3 of the most consistent ones, even) as well as 3 players at he upper end of the 2nd tier. That doesn't just soften up the first group stage, it also leaves a lot of room in the ro16.

Just the region lock doing its thing, starving out the Korean scene, just like everyone said it would.

I m pretty sure, that the Match fixing scandal had a way bigger impact on the Kr scene, as that was the reason why Proleague and most of proleague teams disbanded. Region lock isn t affecting the Tier 3-4 Kr players, as they wouldn t break even on oversees trips anyways.

I feel like the biggest reason is because SC2 is a ten year old game, and it's brutal. Older pros only get older while younger pros enter at a limited pace because they're more likely exposed to newer, more accessible games. The only reason there are still relatively young SC2 pros out there is because this is the most famous/competitive RTS out there and is made by Blizzard. And this type of game will always have a niche for a small subset of the population.

Actually high school or younger would be the best time to go pro here as college and above people would be "distracted" by other life priorities, especially in a competitive place like South Korea. Kids/adults would probably rather play a fun 5v5 game with their friends to relieve their real-life stress rather than experience ladder anxiety (doesn't Inno like to watch/play a lot of LoL?). This is a also game that's non-team centric due to its 1v1 focus so high-paying team sponsorship would be hard to come by unless there's a sustained team league.

The question is: are there any other competitive esports 1v1 RTS, or for that matter any 1v1 esports out there that is as successful as SC2 right now currently as an esport (new games notwithstanding)?

This is coming from someone who's only ever played a couple days of SC2 but has been watching since 2012.

Yeah the fact that this game still has such large prize pools, so many tournaments, and actually quite a lot of pros that are really dedicated, after all this time and in such a demanding 1v1 game and a niche genre... It's really amazing and EXTREMELY rare. How many games have come out and died just during SC2's lifetime?
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poor Impact what an awful lost vs Cure at least DRG won 2 macro games so theres is that
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Is this the first time that Impact and Zest have been in a group and NOT played each other?
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