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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
April 11 2020 16:37 GMT
#261
On April 12 2020 00:59 Morbidius wrote:
Are mutas back on the menu in ZvT?


I just said this on twitter, but I don't think they ever left.

I think it was just "easier" for Zerg to win with Infestors and Hive Tech so why bother with the more APM intensive Muta/Bane?

Mutas were never buffed, the only changes we've had have been nerfs to Infestors and Broodlords oh and Nydus Worms too.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 11 2020 16:43 GMT
#262
Well maybe playing super standard works out for Neeb if Serral is going to do strange attacks.
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1237 Posts
April 11 2020 16:44 GMT
#263
this is such a strange game. Should Neeb have rebuilt sentries or something?
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
April 11 2020 16:45 GMT
#264
What even was that? I feel like I should be disappointed or enraged, but I'm just confused?
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MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
April 11 2020 16:46 GMT
#265
Hard to watch Neeb being this terrible... How did he let Serral win with that horrible build?
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
April 11 2020 16:48 GMT
#266
On April 12 2020 01:37 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2020 00:59 Morbidius wrote:
Are mutas back on the menu in ZvT?


I just said this on twitter, but I don't think they ever left.

I think it was just "easier" for Zerg to win with Infestors and Hive Tech so why bother with the more APM intensive Muta/Bane?

Mutas were never buffed, the only changes we've had have been nerfs to Infestors and Broodlords oh and Nydus Worms too.

The important thing is that most of LotV saw almost no muta play at the top level for one reason or another. Mutas weren't ever buffed, but Terran counters were nerfed. Maps also make an impact on whether Zergs go pure ling bane or hydras or LBM.

Honestly if Neeb would take some better fights he could actually win some games.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
April 11 2020 16:52 GMT
#267
14-hatch, 2 base lair, infestation pit sub 60 supply. Serral has an eastern European diamond Zerg subbing in for this game.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
April 11 2020 16:59 GMT
#268
The commentator correctly pointed that Serral actually looks afraid of neeb with those wonky strats, which does not make sense.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4948 Posts
April 11 2020 17:01 GMT
#269
On April 12 2020 01:37 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2020 00:59 Morbidius wrote:
Are mutas back on the menu in ZvT?


I just said this on twitter, but I don't think they ever left.

I think it was just "easier" for Zerg to win with Infestors and Hive Tech so why bother with the more APM intensive Muta/Bane?

Mutas were never buffed, the only changes we've had have been nerfs to Infestors and Broodlords oh and Nydus Worms too.



Mutas were not buffed, but its counters were, specially Thor aa increase priority and damage an +1 armor. Also larva production was nerfed at the begging of lotv so may have affected it.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 11 2020 17:01 GMT
#270
can we talk about cyclones?

why do they look so weird? it's like some postapocalyptic version of a golf cart or smth
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
April 11 2020 17:05 GMT
#271
Wow that was a shit serie
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
April 11 2020 17:06 GMT
#272
What a non game, how many units lost?
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1237 Posts
April 11 2020 17:06 GMT
#273
well that was a series?
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3598 Posts
April 11 2020 17:06 GMT
#274
Serral's builds looked very strange. But hey, he's in the RO8.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 11 2020 17:07 GMT
#275
Every match is today?
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stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2749 Posts
April 11 2020 17:07 GMT
#276
Weird builds by serral, he managed to 7-0 harstem and 6-1 Showtime on practise but it didn't show in this serie.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 11 2020 17:07 GMT
#277
On April 12 2020 01:59 nojok wrote:
The commentator correctly pointed that Serral actually looks afraid of neeb with those wonky strats, which does not make sense.


Especially considering that Neeb is one of those players that's basically guaranteed to play stock standard which isn't a great strat. against a superior opponent in PvZ. Oh well the result is the expected one at the end of the day.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 11 2020 17:08 GMT
#278
uuuuuh so round of 8 is

ZvZ
ZvZ
ZvZ
TvT
?

sounds like great fun
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1215 Posts
April 11 2020 17:08 GMT
#279
It's another zerg fest!
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virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3598 Posts
April 11 2020 17:09 GMT
#280
I like ZvZ, but there definitely will be some whining. It's also sad that no Protoss made it to the RO8.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
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