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Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
On March 01 2020 01:54 Noonius wrote: ESL should create a rule where all players must play as random. That alone would make things so much more interesting scarlett/skillous/beastyqt bonjwa? | ||
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vult
United States9400 Posts
On March 01 2020 01:55 Fanatic-Templar wrote: It's an old game with old players. At least it's not Brood War. I'm watching ASL and Tastosis are still raving about Flash. Imagine 12 years of Serral. Plz I can’t imagine 12 years of people calling him the NightKing | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
On March 01 2020 01:55 Fanatic-Templar wrote: It's an old game with old players. At least it's not Brood War. I'm watching ASL and Tastosis are still raving about Flash. Imagine 12 years of Serral. It'll probably be more than that considering Flash has wrist issues while serral doesn't. | ||
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JJH777
United States4418 Posts
Maru would destroy a random tournament. It wouldn't even be close. | ||
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Elentos
55571 Posts
On March 01 2020 01:55 royalroadweed wrote: When did that change? I recall a time where terran were winning weekenders left and right with only marginal success in long form prepared format tournaments. I think the only times Terran didn't excel at preparation tournaments were the times the race was generally weak. | ||
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
They can do bo9 with all race combinations and get PiG and Beastyqt to cast it, of course  | ||
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Akio
Finland1838 Posts
On March 01 2020 01:55 JoeCool wrote: I think it's not Serral whos responsible for "boring" tournaments but rather how the game developed. This is the first time in ~9 years of SC II where I'm genuinely bored with a tournament because I feel like I've already seen every single game that is beeing played. No matter if ZvP, PvP, ZvZ, TvP, TvT,.... Although this game will get it's support over the next three years, I just can't see myself watching more than one or two tournaments per year unless they release another addon, new units or change/add mechanics. I kind of agree. It always seems that the big (and usually only) meta changes happen when there's a patch that changes something, whereas in BW for me at least it manages to stay relatively fresh without any changes to the game itself. (Not saying one is better than the other) | ||
Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On March 01 2020 01:57 royalroadweed wrote: It'll probably be more than that considering Flash has wrist issues while serral doesn't. He also doesn't have military. Still I'm somewhat hype of when we'll wonder if korean up and comer Creator can challenge him after coming back from the military | ||
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virpi
Germany3599 Posts
On March 01 2020 01:52 sudete wrote: I really miss when tournaments were more interesting and there was great potential for dramatic underdog storylines. May not always reflect who the best is but it was just incredibly fun to have stories like duckdeok, pigbaby, sting, stardust, the random lot of gsl winners (especially seed and jjakji) among others. Never mind the insane MLG tournaments with massive open brackets or the oddities of up&down matches in gsl - I would be happy just to have one good story in one big tournament. miss the feeling of wide-eyed wonder so much. Those were also the wild west years of SC2, don't forget that. We're past our prime, those days will never come back. Personally, I like to have a stable top tier of players. That's just how competition works. Those who stick around, stay on top, if they're good enough. These extremely volatile MLG brackets were fun to watch, when there were no eagles on screen, but the overall level of play was hilariously bad in comparison to today's display of skill. TLDR: Gameplay has never been better as it is right now, which is why there's less randomness. | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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Shathe
Hungary422 Posts
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Poaktree
165 Posts
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Penev
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Waxangel
United States33599 Posts
On March 01 2020 01:45 vult wrote: He’s the Tom Brady of SC2, wins so much that at some point it becomes too predictable and people want something different, but he still just keeps winning. Maybe floyd mayweather is the more apt comparison if you consider how the promoters use him to benefit off dubious racial dynamics  | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
On March 01 2020 01:58 Elentos wrote: I think the only times Terran didn't excel at preparation tournaments were the times the race was generally weak. Nah. I just checked the premier tournaments. While my memory remembers terran in general winning tons of weekenders it was mainly just taeja. | ||
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Akio
Finland1838 Posts
On March 01 2020 01:59 Nakajin wrote: He also doesn't have military. Still I'm somewhat hype of when we'll wonder if korean up and comer Creator can challenge him after coming back from the military He has military though. Unless I've completely missed something about him not having to go | ||
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
On March 01 2020 02:00 virpi wrote: Those were also the wild west years of SC2, don't forget that. We're past our prime, those days will never come back. Personally, I like to have a stable top tier of players. That's just how competition works. Those who stick around, stay on top, if they're good enough. These extremely volatile MLG brackets were fun to watch, when there were no eagles on screen, but the overall level of play was hilariously bad in comparison to today's display of skill. TLDR: Gameplay has never been better as it is right now, which is why there's less randomness. There's also much fewer new players to challenge the established ones. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On March 01 2020 01:57 royalroadweed wrote: It'll probably be more than that considering Flash has wrist issues while serral doesn't. It would for sure way less since Finland has military service just like Korea; also, Serral basically said that he's not even sure he'll play for the next three years(it's highly likely tho because of ESL). | ||
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Penev
28528 Posts
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
On March 01 2020 02:01 Fanatic-Templar wrote: There's also much fewer new players to challenge the established ones. Very true. I don't have a lot of faith in the likes of Chance, Prince and Gyulzzing to revitalise the korean scene with the vibrancy of youth and god-tier micro | ||
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