EPTOn September 09 2019 06:35 MarianoSC2 wrote:
They are 2:2 games and 10:10 maps. That seems quite consistent to me.
They are 2:2 games and 10:10 maps. That seems quite consistent to me.
I am aware of that.
[WCS 2019] Fall (Montreal) - Championship Sunday - Page 27
| Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments |
|
Nebuchad
Switzerland12193 Posts
I am aware of that. | ||
|
yht9657
1810 Posts
tbf most time I see him cheese it fails disastrously. | ||
|
evanreyes94
Finland42 Posts
| ||
|
Empirimancer
Canada1024 Posts
On September 09 2019 06:27 SC-Shield wrote: Ok, what about terran then? Why doesn't terran win against Serral? This isn't an excuse. Terran doesn't win against Serral, but it doesn't look nearly as hopeless when they lose. We've just seen HeroMarine vs Serral followed by Neeb vs Serral. It isn't just that Gabe came close to winning all three of the games, it's that you could point out what he needed to do to win. For Neeb, it just looked hopeless from start to finish. IIRC Serral wasn't at his usual level vs Stats last time. If they played a best of 9 right now I'd expect Serral to win 5-0. | ||
|
WombaT
Northern Ireland25389 Posts
On September 09 2019 06:34 Fango wrote: Is Stats the perfect protoss player? I think a mix between herO, Classic, and Stats would be preferable in terms of skill ceiling. With sOs designing the builds of course, the ultimate archon would be forged | ||
|
Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On September 09 2019 06:29 lolfail9001 wrote: A tradition, so don't find logic in it. It always irks me since that Naniwa incident as well, but since it's a tradition, i learned to ignored it. Usually shaking hands is seen a sign of respect toward the opponent, in western culture; what's your problem with it? | ||
|
Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On September 09 2019 06:36 yht9657 wrote: tbf most time I see him cheese it fails disastrously. Is Stats bad at cheese because he never does it? Or does he rarely cheese because he's bad at it? It's probably both, but I still think he'd be way better if he had the build order prowess of Classic or the mechanical skill/cheesyness of herO. | ||
|
stilt
France2749 Posts
On September 09 2019 06:39 Xain0n wrote: Usually shaking hands is seen a sign of respect toward the opponent, in western culture; what's your problem with it? Generally, it's the loser who goes to shake hand, or both no ? edit : I am totally fine with the way it is btw | ||
|
Elentos
55550 Posts
On September 09 2019 06:39 Xain0n wrote: Usually shaking hands is seen a sign of respect toward the opponent, in western culture; what's your problem with it? In traditional sports the loser offfers to shake the winners hand. The winner doesn't force themself upon the loser to get the obligatory handshake everyone wants to see like in SC2. | ||
|
yht9657
1810 Posts
On September 09 2019 06:38 Empirimancer wrote: IIRC Serral wasn't at his usual level vs Stats last time. If they played a best of 9 right now I'd expect Serral to win 5-0. And that's because Stats is not at his usual level right now, if they played a best of 9 a month ago I'd expect Stats to win 5-0  | ||
|
ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On September 09 2019 06:40 Fango wrote: Is Stats bad at cheese because he never does it? Or does he rarely cheese because he's bad at it? It's probably both, but I still think he'd be way better if he had the build order prowess of Classic or the mechanical skill/cheesyness of herO. or was able to play online like Zest. | ||
Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On September 09 2019 06:35 Xain0n wrote: No, never. Neeb's 17-2 is the best record iirc, hoping for a clean sweep now! MMA has an 18-3 back in the day too, with every map loss to Yoda. | ||
|
Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On September 09 2019 06:39 Wombat_NI wrote: With sOs designing the builds of course, the ultimate archon would be forged Honestly Classic is better at designing builds, but sOs is better at tailoring/choosing builds to exploit specific opponents. For example proving to everyone that herO never scouted his main in PvP. Or the entire final vs Jaedong. Or the final vs MKP. Or blizzcon ro8 vs Maru's proxyrax. sOs didn't invent any of those builds iirc, but he knew when to use them to get easy wins. | ||
|
yht9657
1810 Posts
On September 09 2019 06:40 Fango wrote: Is Stats bad at cheese because he never does it? Or does he rarely cheese because he's bad at it? It's probably both, but I still think he'd be way better if he had the build order prowess of Classic or the mechanical skill/cheesyness of herO. Most likely the latter, he's just not the cheese type. This is reflected in other aspects of his play as well, for example I don't really agree his mechanic skill is inferior to that of herO but it looks that way because he's much more conservative when it comes to micro/engagements so you don't see flashy moves from him as often as you will do from the likes of herO or PartinG. | ||
|
deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On September 09 2019 06:44 Fango wrote: Honestly Classic is better at designing builds, but sOs is better at tailoring/choosing builds to exploit specific opponents. For example proving to everyone that herO never scouted his main in PvP. Or the entire final vs Jaedong. Or the final vs MKP. Or blizzcon ro8 vs Maru's proxyrax. sOs didn't invent any of those builds iirc, but he knew when to use them to get easy wins. sOs didn't do any exploit, he just maphacked the first game and then Maru had a breakdown. Like rewatch the game, if this would have been posted in the cheater thread on this forum many people would be blaming sOs of hacks  That's what happens when you practice most of the year with the same partner | ||
|
MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On September 09 2019 06:41 Elentos wrote: In traditional sports the loser offfers to shake the winners hand. The winner doesn't force themself upon the loser to get the obligatory handshake everyone wants to see like in SC2. Which traditional sports? In football its always the winners who come to cheer up the players of the losing team, picking them up from the ground, offering handshakes. The same is in boxing, tennis (here its maybe more even), or basically any other sport where 2 or more professionals who respect each other are battling it out. Its good sportsmanship, and also basic psychology. The winner is happy, the loser is sad. The winner comes offering comfort and sign of respect to the opponent, transferring some of that positive feelings and cheering him up a bit. Its a great tradition  | ||
|
Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
| ||
|
Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On September 09 2019 06:43 Nakajin wrote: MMA has an 18-3 back in the day too, with every map loss to Yoda. Oh and True has a 15-2, I remember this one, my first ever live event didn't care it was such a shit tournament haha | ||
|
Deleted User 26513
2376 Posts
| ||
|
deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On September 09 2019 06:47 MarianoSC2 wrote: Which traditional sports? In football its always the winners who come to cheer up the players of the losing team, picking them up from the ground, offering handshakes. The same is in boxing, tennis (here its maybe more even), or basically any other sport where 2 or more professionals who respect each other are battling it out. Its good sportsmanship, and also basic psychology. The winner is happy, the loser is sad. The winner comes offering comfort and sign of respect to the opponent, transferring some of that positive feelings and cheering him up a bit. Its a great tradition Yeah, we saw so many cheering and offering the comfort these days. Usually they just shake hands and go away. In such way it should follow the standard of a loser offering the handshake. | ||
| ||
