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GSL Season 3
2019 Global StarCraft II League Season 3/Code SStreams & Casters
Format
- Group Stage #2 (Round of 16): Dual Tournament Format.
- Group Nominations.
- All matches are Bo3.
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Group B
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[GSL 2019] Season 3 - Ro16 Group B
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
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Pandemona
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HolydaKing
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Elentos
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Conut
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TentativePanda
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
But I can already see this season being a terran fest so Cure and TY advance | ||
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Conut
Canada1026 Posts
On August 30 2019 21:54 Fango wrote: Will the terran buffs effect these results at all? herO games aren't gonna go long enough for someone to get ghost emp and make use of it. I can see Trap playing lategame I guess But I can already see this season being a terran fest so Cure and TY advance I hope both advance but I am actually worried about cure taking the spot instead of TY, I hope he makes it out, gogo TY | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On August 30 2019 21:54 Fango wrote: Will the terran buffs effect these results at all? herO games aren't gonna go long enough for someone to get ghost emp and make use of it. I can see Trap playing lategame I guess But I can already see this season being a terran fest so Cure and TY advance The stim buff should certainly be relevant (as should the prism and recall nerfs). | ||
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Topin
Peru10078 Posts
 edit: oh man Cure | ||
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seemsgood
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Topin
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seemsgood
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starkiller123
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On August 31 2019 14:15 starkiller123 wrote: wow its dead tonight on TL Forreal | ||
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Morbidius
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On August 31 2019 14:20 Morbidius wrote: If we can't get TvP balanced can we at least make it watcheable? its the common sense that when a crucial upgrade like stim got buff,all-in is the first thing terran player would come up at first | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On August 31 2019 14:15 starkiller123 wrote: wow its dead tonight on TL Bad time for Europe American players don't watch GSL if therr isn't a foreigner involved  | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On August 31 2019 14:30 Ej_ wrote: Bad time for Europe American players don't watch GSL if therr isn't a foreigner involved i feel like it's the europeans who show up less in that case lol for example the wcs europe topics dwarf the gsl topics | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On August 31 2019 14:31 BerserkSword wrote: i feel like it's the europeans who show up less in that case lol for example the wcs europe topics dwarf the gsl topics It takes slightly more effort to build the momentum of a Serral conversation in GSL threads. | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On August 31 2019 14:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote: It takes slightly more effort to build the momentum of a Serral conversation in GSL threads. no one wants to talk about patch zergs, that is true | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On August 31 2019 14:31 BerserkSword wrote: i feel like it's the europeans who show up less in that case lol for example the wcs europe topics dwarf the gsl topics GSL is either when I'm at work or 6 am on a Saturday where I'd like to sleep a bit longer after working all week. I'm sure a lot of Europeans can relate to that. WCS EU is always at a good time for Europeans. | ||
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Ej_
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Ej_
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On August 31 2019 14:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote: It takes slightly more effort to build the momentum of a Serral conversation in GSL threads. true lol could be explosive when it actually does start in gsl threads tho lol | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On August 31 2019 14:35 Elentos wrote: GSL is either when I'm at work or 6 am on a Saturday where I'd like to sleep a bit longer after working all week. I'm sure a lot of Europeans can relate to that. WCS EU is always at a good time for Europeans. in that case time is even worse for North Americans i guess the wcs EU is perfect for the EU crowd and a huge portion if not the majority of sc2 fans are european so... | ||
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Ej_
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On August 31 2019 14:37 Ej_ wrote: But nevertheless, Elentos did come to watch his boy crash and burn tonight. a bad omen indeed,my man caster just got rekt by stargate hit squad bcuz his opponent thinks stats s 3 oracles hit squad build aint OP enough | ||
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Ej_
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Elentos
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Ej_
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Ej_
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On August 31 2019 14:52 Ej_ wrote: Oh, Terran can now buy Linken's Sphere? BKB would've been better vs storm | ||
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On August 31 2019 14:52 Ej_ wrote: Oh, Terran can now buy Linken's Sphere? undeniably da worst luxury item ever | ||
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Elentos
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Elentos
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On August 31 2019 14:56 Elentos wrote: Honestly give me back group A this one sucks. Special's main base barracks float game was better than anything in this group. but group A didnt have "my heart will go on" with dragon force -esque style | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On August 31 2019 15:01 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Interesting remix of 'My heart will go on'. Better than the games. | ||
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Elentos
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
It was epic. | ||
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On August 31 2019 14:34 Noonius wrote: no one wants to talk about patch zergs, that is true until you realize 99% comments about dem patch zergs are made by an italian guy | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
The only acceptable version of that song. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
There's also this one: | ||
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Elentos
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On August 31 2019 15:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote: There's also this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2WH8mHJnhM The metal version makes the god awful song presentable, this legendary version makes it an even bigger joke. | ||
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On August 31 2019 15:12 Elentos wrote: +1 armor and blink on 2 base what its a fair respond to old meme cyclones but not sure about this game tho | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
Yeah just stack up and make it easier. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On August 31 2019 15:14 Elentos wrote: The year is 2019 and Protoss players still haven't realized that it's better not to pull away exactly when the mines are about to go off just because they noticed late. Yeah just stack up and make it easier. herO's probably still living in 2017 anyhow. | ||
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Elentos
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Ej_
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On August 31 2019 15:09 seemsgood wrote: until you realize 99% comments about dem patch zergs are made by an italian guy I mean, you have to keep validating the only top player Reynor can beat | ||
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On August 31 2019 15:13 Elentos wrote: The metal version makes the god awful song presentable, this legendary version makes it an even bigger joke. fun fact: most people hate this song because it took them one trillion gallons of tear | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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Elentos
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On August 31 2019 15:25 Elentos wrote: Imagine if herO got extended thermal lance He only had roughly one colossus at any given time, so it might not have made that big of a difference. | ||
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Elentos
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On August 31 2019 15:26 ZigguratOfUr wrote: He only had roughly one colossus at any given time, so it might not have made that big of a difference. They could have fought the last engage from the low ground, at least there's that. Honestly herO lost like 12 workers to a mine drop early on and then should have won the game if not for a few mistakes. I don't think that bodes too well for Cure. | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
It has a larger radius than storm and does 100 damage instantly as opposed to 80 over time insane edit: of course higher range too lol | ||
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Elentos
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BerserkSword
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Elentos
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pvsnp
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On August 31 2019 15:48 BerserkSword wrote: tempest is such a garbage unit lmfao I always thought of Tempests and Stalkers as quintessentially Protoss units. Controlled properly they deal basically free damage while opponents flail around helplessly. Miscontrolled they pop like soap bubbles. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On August 31 2019 15:50 Elentos wrote: You know I'm not a fan of this bait and switch Afreeca is doing in the Ro16. Wait for the 3 minute timer to end so you can see the 10 minute timer? They're learning from Chinese tournaments. | ||
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On August 31 2019 15:50 ZigguratOfUr wrote: They're learning from Chinese tournaments. we can always listen moar dragonforce esque my heart will go on to kill time | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On August 31 2019 15:50 pvsnp wrote: I always thought of Tempests and Stalkers as quintessentially Protoss units. Controlled properly they deal damage with near-impunity while opponents flail around helplessly. Miscontrolled they collapse like a house of cards. I agree with stalkers. But ever since the Tempest nerf (lost both its durability and a good deal of speed it gamed from its previous patch) I havent seen them really do anything at the highest level even in the hands of players like stats and neeb...except for classic's tempests rush | ||
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Elentos
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ZigguratOfUr
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On August 31 2019 15:55 BerserkSword wrote: I agree with stalkers. But ever since the Tempest nerf (lost both its durability and a good deal of speed it gamed from its previous patch) I havent seen them really do anything at the highest level even in the hands of players like stats and neeb...except for classic's tempests rush Right now they exist to deal with ranged libs and not much else. | ||
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sneakyfox
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Durnuu
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A man who has the entirety of the JIN AIR PRACTICE ENVIRONMENT behind him or one caster boi | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On August 31 2019 16:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Right now they exist to deal with ranged libs and not much else. it's crazy how liberators were introduced to the game after tempests and now the only role tempests really have now is agaisnt ranged libs lol | ||
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sneakyfox
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pvsnp
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On August 31 2019 15:55 BerserkSword wrote: I agree with stalkers. But ever since the Tempest nerf (lost both its durability and a good deal of speed it gamed from its previous patch) I havent seen them really do anything at the highest level even in the hands of players like stats and neeb...except for classic's tempests rush Tempests are definitely weaker (as expected from a nerf), but with perfect control they are just as strong as they used to be. As long as they outrange everything else they can still kite, the nerfs to speed and health just raise the control bar and punish mistakes harder. Which I think is a good thing, personally, free damage/units/etc just aren't good design. Everything needs a drawback. | ||
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seemsgood
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pvsnp
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Tanks on the lowground supporting marines on the highground makes sense. But I can't understand how the fuck the opposite would ever work. | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
give TY a significant economical advantage in TvT and he wont lose | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On August 31 2019 16:09 BerserkSword wrote: no way cure wins this give TY a significant economical advantage in TvT and he wont lose As long as he manages to stick to 90 workers and doesn't 'accidentally' make an extra twenty... | ||
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Elentos
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On August 31 2019 16:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote: As long as he manages to stick to 90 workers and doesn't 'accidentally' make an extra twenty... He's won a TvT on 112 workers before | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On August 31 2019 16:05 pvsnp wrote: Tempests are definitely weaker (as expected from a nerf), but with perfect control they are just as strong as they used to be. As long as they outrange everything else they can still kite, the nerfs to speed and health just raise the control bar and punish mistakes harder. Which I think is a good thing, personally, free damage/units/etc just aren't good design. Everything needs a drawback. They are not as good as they used to be even with perfect control. Their current speed tier is pretty useless and doesnt make up for the massive durability nerf they got. They get caught easily now. I think the speed tempests were broken, but i dont think the durable ones were. | ||
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Ej_
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Ej_
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On August 31 2019 16:13 seemsgood wrote: this map sucks for terran against zerg but for TvT ? its brilliant Thunderbird is not a bad TvZ map | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
Yeah... but nevertheless being saturated 36/16 on some of your bases is suboptimal. | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On August 31 2019 16:14 BerserkSword wrote: They are not as good as they used to be even with perfect control. Their current speed tier is pretty useless and doesnt make up for the massive durability nerf they got. They get caught easily now. I think the speed tempests were broken, but i dont think the durable ones were. The more important question is : were tempests ever entertaining to play, face or watch? No, no and no. They're perfectly fine in the dumpster. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On August 31 2019 16:16 nojok wrote: The more important question is : were tempests ever entertaining to play, face or watch? No, no and no. They're perfectly fine in the dumpster. I was pretty entertained when Has was going for proxy shield battery tempest every PvT. | ||
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Durnuu
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sneakyfox
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On August 31 2019 16:14 sneakyfox wrote: This lack of neosteel/hisec is physically painful Thank you TY | ||
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Durnuu
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Elentos
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But hey maybe Cure just doesn't want the grand prize of playing Dark in the next round. | ||
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pvsnp
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On August 31 2019 16:14 BerserkSword wrote: They are not as good as they used to be even with perfect control. Their current speed tier is pretty useless and doesnt make up for the massive durability nerf they got. They get caught easily now. I think the speed tempests were broken, but i dont think the durable ones were. I agree, durable Tempests were fine. But first they traded health for speed, then Blizzard decided that was OP and nerfed speed. So now they have neither. And while they are 100% weaker than when the changes started, it's not enough of a problem to justify buffing them, so they're stuck being weaker. That's just the way that the balance cycle works. | ||
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seemsgood
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On August 31 2019 16:22 Elentos wrote: Well that was Cure's map pick. But hey maybe Cure just doesn't want the grand prize of playing Dark in the next round. i think his late game TvZ is moar solid than the caster.TY s late game is pretty crap in this year | ||
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Ej_
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On August 31 2019 16:24 seemsgood wrote: i think his late game TvZ is moar solid than the caster.TY s late game is pretty crap in this year It really does not matter. Neither of these 2 has a chance vs Dark in a bo5. | ||
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pvsnp
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Durnuu
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nojok
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Akio
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TheOneAboveU
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Elentos
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BerserkSword
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On August 31 2019 16:22 pvsnp wrote: I agree, durable Tempests were fine. But first they traded health for speed, then Blizzard decided that was OP and nerfed speed. So now they have neither. And while they are 100% weaker than when the changes started, it's not enough of a problem to justify buffing them, so they're stuck being weaker. That's just the way that the balance cycle works. Yup I think Protoss is gonna go through a real dark age now. Its late game is helpless vs both zerg and terran (to a lesser extent) and their midgame just got a solid nerf i think a enhanced shockwave "rush" is gonna be a thing now. get it in the midgame instead of the lategame. The damage output against protoss is insane and it neuters high templars | ||
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Elentos
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On August 31 2019 16:32 Akio wrote: Damn the first ro8 match is Dark vs TY.. I can only think of that SICK series they had in ro16 in 2018 season 1. I guess the meta is closer to that in that ghost/mech, TY's creation, is back. But I can't help but think of their last Ro8 GSL match. Which was really not epic. | ||
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repomaniak
Poland324 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 31 2019 15:09 seemsgood wrote: until you realize 99% comments about dem patch zergs are made by an italian guy I don't really speak of Rogue that often. | ||
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tskarzyn
United States516 Posts
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Elentos
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On September 01 2019 00:08 tskarzyn wrote: herO is so much worse than everyone in this group... how does he have so many trophies. He... used to be way better than all of them? | ||
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tskarzyn
United States516 Posts
On September 01 2019 00:28 Elentos wrote: He... used to be way better than all of them? True, the all-in / blink meta was great for him back in HoTS. | ||
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On September 01 2019 03:41 tskarzyn wrote: True, the all-in / blink meta was great for him back in HoTS. He was one of the best, if not the best, at beating SHs. It's not just the blink era. | ||
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