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TheAnarchy
Profile Joined January 2010
Chile1105 Posts
August 02 2019 17:26 GMT
#401
On August 03 2019 02:12 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2019 02:10 TheAnarchy wrote:
On August 03 2019 02:07 Poopi wrote:
On August 03 2019 02:02 TheAnarchy wrote:
If Life would be playing he probably won 10 gsl in a row with this low level (except he purporsly lost one for the fun).

Life was playing on ladder and got trashed by aLive.
Nuff said, old stars can’t keep up forever ^^.

He is so overrated it’s not funny anymore, especially since he is a match fixer


He isnt training as pro and its a ladder match so? Competition now days is a joke. Is the same when sc was dying and Flash and JD dominated


LOL. sc wasn't dying. Blizzard killed our scene to consolidate power and release a new game where they had control.

You have no factual basis for your claim. Sponsorship were still over 200k for these guys at the time.

Just because the first phase of stars are phased out by more talented gamers, does not mean the game has died.

LOL


After Savior (the best SC zerg player ever) incident SC was dying badly. Foreing scene was non existent (our clan tot dismantled, mondi, testie, draco, etc all retired). In korea lvl was also very weak, flash at first was low cheeser and gained the throne with weak competition such as a mediocre bisu and jd.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 02 2019 17:28 GMT
#402
On August 03 2019 02:26 TheAnarchy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2019 02:12 AttackZerg wrote:
On August 03 2019 02:10 TheAnarchy wrote:
On August 03 2019 02:07 Poopi wrote:
On August 03 2019 02:02 TheAnarchy wrote:
If Life would be playing he probably won 10 gsl in a row with this low level (except he purporsly lost one for the fun).

Life was playing on ladder and got trashed by aLive.
Nuff said, old stars can’t keep up forever ^^.

He is so overrated it’s not funny anymore, especially since he is a match fixer


He isnt training as pro and its a ladder match so? Competition now days is a joke. Is the same when sc was dying and Flash and JD dominated


LOL. sc wasn't dying. Blizzard killed our scene to consolidate power and release a new game where they had control.

You have no factual basis for your claim. Sponsorship were still over 200k for these guys at the time.

Just because the first phase of stars are phased out by more talented gamers, does not mean the game has died.

LOL


After Savior (the best SC zerg player ever) incident SC was dying badly. Foreing scene was non existent (our clan tot dismantled, mondi, testie, draco, etc all retired). In korea lvl was also very weak, flash at first was low cheeser and gained the throne with weak competition such as a mediocre bisu and jd.

Wow, you're gonna trigger a lot of Bisu and JD fans with that. :D
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
August 02 2019 17:29 GMT
#403
On August 03 2019 02:23 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2019 02:13 Moonerz wrote:
If the Kespa teams were still in full swing the level of play would be much much higher than we are seeing today. But it is what it is.

I can't see Serral not winning this tournament. No one remaining should give him much trouble besides Stats maybe. Group A got rid of both Inno and Soo.

Would they though? Both don't play exceptionally well


They weren't before winning Katowice and IEM, and they didn't after those victories. Yet they won.
Splynn
Profile Joined September 2011
United States225 Posts
August 02 2019 17:31 GMT
#404
Did Neeb just say that he made this build on the fly and then 2-0'd Ptitdrogo with it? That's kinda crazy.
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
August 02 2019 17:32 GMT
#405
On August 03 2019 02:31 Splynn wrote:
Did Neeb just say that he made this build on the fly and then 2-0'd Ptitdrogo with it? That's kinda crazy.


Not really, he said he doesn't know how to hold it himself and he adjusted it slightly based on what Zest did against him
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
August 02 2019 17:32 GMT
#406
Not looking great for Gumiho
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
August 02 2019 17:33 GMT
#407
On August 03 2019 02:32 JoeCool wrote:
Not looking great for Gumiho


Feels a bit like reynor has done nothing for the past 2 minutes though
Year of MaxPax
TheAnarchy
Profile Joined January 2010
Chile1105 Posts
August 02 2019 17:33 GMT
#408
On August 03 2019 02:28 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2019 02:26 TheAnarchy wrote:
On August 03 2019 02:12 AttackZerg wrote:
On August 03 2019 02:10 TheAnarchy wrote:
On August 03 2019 02:07 Poopi wrote:
On August 03 2019 02:02 TheAnarchy wrote:
If Life would be playing he probably won 10 gsl in a row with this low level (except he purporsly lost one for the fun).

Life was playing on ladder and got trashed by aLive.
Nuff said, old stars can’t keep up forever ^^.

He is so overrated it’s not funny anymore, especially since he is a match fixer


He isnt training as pro and its a ladder match so? Competition now days is a joke. Is the same when sc was dying and Flash and JD dominated


LOL. sc wasn't dying. Blizzard killed our scene to consolidate power and release a new game where they had control.

You have no factual basis for your claim. Sponsorship were still over 200k for these guys at the time.

Just because the first phase of stars are phased out by more talented gamers, does not mean the game has died.

LOL


After Savior (the best SC zerg player ever) incident SC was dying badly. Foreing scene was non existent (our clan tot dismantled, mondi, testie, draco, etc all retired). In korea lvl was also very weak, flash at first was low cheeser and gained the throne with weak competition such as a mediocre bisu and jd.

Wow, you're gonna trigger a lot of Bisu and JD fans with that. :D


Do they even exist? I only rember good players such as garimto, boxer, yellow, nada, savior, etc. I played SC since 98 till 2007 then competition was very low and borring.
I remember in good times there were especial servers (wgtour and others).
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
August 02 2019 17:34 GMT
#409
Wow what a push from Gumi
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
August 02 2019 17:34 GMT
#410
Mech parade push 10/10
Year of MaxPax
Splynn
Profile Joined September 2011
United States225 Posts
August 02 2019 17:35 GMT
#411
On August 03 2019 02:33 TheAnarchy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2019 02:28 HolydaKing wrote:
On August 03 2019 02:26 TheAnarchy wrote:
On August 03 2019 02:12 AttackZerg wrote:
On August 03 2019 02:10 TheAnarchy wrote:
On August 03 2019 02:07 Poopi wrote:
On August 03 2019 02:02 TheAnarchy wrote:
If Life would be playing he probably won 10 gsl in a row with this low level (except he purporsly lost one for the fun).

Life was playing on ladder and got trashed by aLive.
Nuff said, old stars can’t keep up forever ^^.

He is so overrated it’s not funny anymore, especially since he is a match fixer


He isnt training as pro and its a ladder match so? Competition now days is a joke. Is the same when sc was dying and Flash and JD dominated


LOL. sc wasn't dying. Blizzard killed our scene to consolidate power and release a new game where they had control.

You have no factual basis for your claim. Sponsorship were still over 200k for these guys at the time.

Just because the first phase of stars are phased out by more talented gamers, does not mean the game has died.

LOL


After Savior (the best SC zerg player ever) incident SC was dying badly. Foreing scene was non existent (our clan tot dismantled, mondi, testie, draco, etc all retired). In korea lvl was also very weak, flash at first was low cheeser and gained the throne with weak competition such as a mediocre bisu and jd.

Wow, you're gonna trigger a lot of Bisu and JD fans with that. :D


Do they even exist? I only rember good players such as garimto, boxer, yellow, nada, savior, etc. I played SC since 98 till 2007 then competition was very low and borring.
I remember in good times there were especial servers (wgtour and others).



Yea, they exist. Jaedong was the strongest/best Zerg of all time. I'm one of the triggered Jaedong fans that you were told about.
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
August 02 2019 17:35 GMT
#412
On August 03 2019 02:32 JoeCool wrote:
Not looking great for Gumiho


Well that didn't age very well...
rayl991
Profile Joined August 2019
Afghanistan80 Posts
August 02 2019 17:37 GMT
#413
Not sure whose idea it is to have so many PvP on the main stage....
Latr02
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
August 02 2019 17:38 GMT
#414
On August 03 2019 02:37 rayl991 wrote:
Not sure whose idea it is to have so many PvP on the main stage....

It's Serral's group in Finland
Moonerz
Profile Joined March 2014
United States446 Posts
August 02 2019 17:38 GMT
#415
On August 03 2019 02:37 rayl991 wrote:
Not sure whose idea it is to have so many PvP on the main stage....


They really wanted to get Serral on main stage. But I agree group D is way more interesting.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28483 Posts
August 02 2019 17:38 GMT
#416
I wonder how Gabe will do vs the rematch curse
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Colouss
Profile Joined November 2013
United States501 Posts
August 02 2019 17:43 GMT
#417
Not looking great for Reynor.
Chinese teams flair when
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-02 17:48:50
August 02 2019 17:44 GMT
#418
On August 03 2019 02:26 TheAnarchy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2019 02:12 AttackZerg wrote:
On August 03 2019 02:10 TheAnarchy wrote:
On August 03 2019 02:07 Poopi wrote:
On August 03 2019 02:02 TheAnarchy wrote:
If Life would be playing he probably won 10 gsl in a row with this low level (except he purporsly lost one for the fun).

Life was playing on ladder and got trashed by aLive.
Nuff said, old stars can’t keep up forever ^^.

He is so overrated it’s not funny anymore, especially since he is a match fixer


He isnt training as pro and its a ladder match so? Competition now days is a joke. Is the same when sc was dying and Flash and JD dominated


LOL. sc wasn't dying. Blizzard killed our scene to consolidate power and release a new game where they had control.

You have no factual basis for your claim. Sponsorship were still over 200k for these guys at the time.

Just because the first phase of stars are phased out by more talented gamers, does not mean the game has died.

LOL


After Savior (the best SC zerg player ever) incident SC was dying badly. Foreing scene was non existent (our clan tot dismantled, mondi, testie, draco, etc all retired). In korea lvl was also very weak, flash at first was low cheeser and gained the throne with weak competition such as a mediocre bisu and jd.


Mechanically - Savior was an inaccurate joke and already a sagging failure as Jaedong took over.
Effort overtook him as the best zerg on his own team long before that, Idra talked about Effort being the best on the team long before Savior was found out to be using his position to destroy people.

Savior was good before Protoss knew how to fast expand and when Terrans still played 1 base style or 2 base all-ins.

You have no metric for anything your say. Mondi, Testie, Draco all have retired and unretired so many times it is pointless to point to one time.

We never had a scene other then WCG and tl.net - if by scene you mean tournaments with money.

Iccup exploded with top koreans after the match fixing scandle (unrelated). Ret, who was better then everyone you mentioned, was playing as were many others.

Sounds more like, you were young once and had a decent life and things were good - you got older and your life is hard, so you shit on things.

Nobody from this games past could last a tournament with these guys.
Savior couldn't qualify for a BW league even if he wasn't banned for life.

Your wrong to the point of revisionism.

Same type of person says "Bobby Fischer would be god if he played today", Nope. He would get dunked on by the entire top ten... or Bruce Lee would be a champion figher ..... Nope, just a small guy with great theatrical and athletic ability who would lose to a similarly sized female ufc fighter.


Savior was good for a few years and then was garbage for the last few years. Forget Adrenal much?


(been playing since 99 - on every server, including the polish and chinese ones, I was here for the wdtour scam and wgtour and gamei and everything else, r.i.p fish)
TheAnarchy
Profile Joined January 2010
Chile1105 Posts
August 02 2019 17:44 GMT
#419
On August 03 2019 02:35 Splynn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2019 02:33 TheAnarchy wrote:
On August 03 2019 02:28 HolydaKing wrote:
On August 03 2019 02:26 TheAnarchy wrote:
On August 03 2019 02:12 AttackZerg wrote:
On August 03 2019 02:10 TheAnarchy wrote:
On August 03 2019 02:07 Poopi wrote:
On August 03 2019 02:02 TheAnarchy wrote:
If Life would be playing he probably won 10 gsl in a row with this low level (except he purporsly lost one for the fun).

Life was playing on ladder and got trashed by aLive.
Nuff said, old stars can’t keep up forever ^^.

He is so overrated it’s not funny anymore, especially since he is a match fixer


He isnt training as pro and its a ladder match so? Competition now days is a joke. Is the same when sc was dying and Flash and JD dominated


LOL. sc wasn't dying. Blizzard killed our scene to consolidate power and release a new game where they had control.

You have no factual basis for your claim. Sponsorship were still over 200k for these guys at the time.

Just because the first phase of stars are phased out by more talented gamers, does not mean the game has died.

LOL


Lol.
The game was so borrig at that time. I remember even szisky was considered best foreing at that time. So low level, there not even international tournaments with koreans.

After Savior (the best SC zerg player ever) incident SC was dying badly. Foreing scene was non existent (our clan tot dismantled, mondi, testie, draco, etc all retired). In korea lvl was also very weak, flash at first was low cheeser and gained the throne with weak competition such as a mediocre bisu and jd.

Wow, you're gonna trigger a lot of Bisu and JD fans with that. :D


Do they even exist? I only rember good players such as garimto, boxer, yellow, nada, savior, etc. I played SC since 98 till 2007 then competition was very low and borring.
I remember in good times there were especial servers (wgtour and others).



Yea, they exist. Jaedong was the strongest/best Zerg of all time. I'm one of the triggered Jaedong fans that you were told about.

UnLarva
Profile Joined March 2019
458 Posts
August 02 2019 17:47 GMT
#420
On August 03 2019 02:24 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2019 02:10 DBooN wrote:
On August 03 2019 02:08 Xain0n wrote:
On August 03 2019 02:02 TheAnarchy wrote:
If Life would be playing he probably won 10 gsl in a row with this low level (except he purporsly lost one for the fun).


Life would surely be fighting for a GSL title, have you actually looked at Maru's or Serral's mechanics? Where do you see the decay?
This tale about foreigners winning because koreans became weak is so delusional.

But you keep telling us how weak code S has become


The korean scene has lost depth, I keep telling you that Code A is weaker and that taking Code S titles consecutively is easier(winner privileges play a role in that); winning Code S is still pretty hard and the top korean players are still very strong.


Right on Commander.

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