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Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
 ASUS ROGStreams & TalentFormat & Map Pool
Map Pool Group Stage 2+ Show Spoiler [Group A] + + Show Spoiler [Group B] + + Show Spoiler [Group C] + + Show Spoiler [Group D] + CSS: FO-nTTaX Rest: Panda Image: ASUS ROG | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
I think Groups B and D are the most exciting ones actually | ||
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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Moonerz
United States446 Posts
Pretty good distribution going into Day 2. Group A is the group of death for sure. Group B is probably the weakest. | ||
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yht9657
1810 Posts
Die Mauer has a very doable group, not gonna be surprised if he finishes first. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
I better go sleep soon, its long drive tomorrow :D | ||
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Conut
Canada1026 Posts
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Luolis
Finland7113 Posts
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Flying Immortal
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B: Showtime Dear (80%) C: Serral Zest (99%) D: Reynor Stats (99%) | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Showtime, Ragnarok Serral, Zest Reynor Stats | ||
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Anc13nt
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On August 02 2019 05:10 sudete wrote: Not so hot on neeb's chances anymore. Would love to see RNK make it but he'll probably have to serve copious amounts of cheese if there's any chance of that happening Yeah RagnoraK is kinda shaky vs Protoss I feel, his zvt is usually quite good but I don’t think it will be enough to get him out | ||
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Elentos
55553 Posts
On August 02 2019 05:55 starkiller123 wrote: Yeah RagnoraK is kinda shaky vs Protoss I feel, his zvt is usually quite good but I don’t think it will be enough to get Jim out No matter how you look at it,  Jim isn't getting out of any of these groups.  | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On August 02 2019 05:23 Luolis wrote: That group A is fucking stacked. Gonna be a good day of casting tomorrow again :DDD Excellent casting dude | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On August 02 2019 05:59 Elentos wrote: No matter how you look at it, Jim isn't getting out of any of these groups. Rip | ||
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DSK
England1110 Posts
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On August 02 2019 06:18 DSK wrote: Group A was an inside job. That's an absolutely insane lineup. Yeah group A looks like a quite strong GSL ro16 group lol | ||
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Elentos
55553 Posts
On August 02 2019 06:19 starkiller123 wrote: Yeah group A looks like a quite strong GSL ro16 group lol It's the cheaper, slightly lower quality off-brand version of GSL Ro16 group C. | ||
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SamirDuran
Philippines894 Posts
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patermatrix
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
And holy smokes that Group A is terrifying | ||
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ChaosArcher
Germany956 Posts
I think this might actually be one of the hardest groups Serral could have gotten. Can always see him drop Bo3s against Drogo and Neeb tbh. But I just watched Serral vs Inno Game 2 and wtf was that? The way he outmanouvered Innos nukes by constantly repositioning the spores and even baiting Innos army into them in the end. Inno looked so helpless and he was playing out of his mind. At the end Inno had lost 20k gas to Serrals 10k. Just crazy to see such high level ZvT out of a person who plays the top Koreans only a few times a year. If there is a god Maru and Serral meet in a final this year and we get the highest level TvZ of all time. But knowing how shit like this goes down it will probably be a one sided series with tons of 2 raxing. | ||
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tigon_ridge
482 Posts
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
On August 02 2019 08:02 ChaosArcher wrote: Hyped for day 2! Groups look real stacked. I think this might actually be one of the hardest groups Serral could have gotten. Can always see him drop Bo3s against Drogo and Neeb tbh. But I just watched Serral vs Inno Game 2 and wtf was that? The way he outmanouvered Innos nukes by constantly repositioning the spores and even baiting Innos army into them in the end. Inno looked so helpless and he was playing out of his mind. At the end Inno had lost 20k gas to Serrals 10k. Just crazy to see such high level ZvT out of a person who plays the top Koreans only a few times a year. If there is a god Maru and Serral meet in a final this year and we get the highest level TvZ of all time. But knowing how shit like this goes down it will probably be a one sided series with tons of 2 raxing. not to discredit Serral, who is in fact, a legend, but late game Z is too cancerous. Infestors/Vipers need nerfs | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 02 2019 08:11 AzAlexZ wrote: not to discredit Serral, who is in fact, a legend, but late game Z is too cancerous. Infestors/Vipers need nerfs It also doesn't seem Inno is in his best form lately, from WESG it went only down IMO | ||
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
On August 02 2019 08:26 deacon.frost wrote: It also doesn't seem Inno is in his best form lately, from WESG it went only down IMO actually facts, he's not doing well this year despite winning a tourney | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
Showtime seems on fire and, while I would love to see Ragnarok advance, I fear his ZvP isn't good enough to take Dear down. Serral will be extensively tested in his weakest matchup. Zest should comfortably advance on top of his PvP, let's see exactly how good Serral really is in ZvP but he should definitely advance. Group D is the most difficult to predict, Heromarine seems incapable of beating good koreans, Stats doesn't have a stellar TvP and seemed shaky today, Gumiho's level is hard to gauge and Reynor is not very consistent outside of WCS; let's say Reynor and Gumiho. | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On August 02 2019 08:11 AzAlexZ wrote: not to discredit Serral, who is in fact, a legend, but late game Z is too cancerous. Infestors/Vipers need nerfs Serral is the only top zerg who regularly crushes terrans in super lategame. Maru wrecks zergs in extra lategame. You may be correct, but I think at the highest levels - it is debatable. Seems to me - the player better wins in ZvT/TvZ. I would still think Maru is a favorite or at least an equal in a bo7 v any zerg playing today. | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On August 02 2019 11:02 AttackZerg wrote: Serral is the only top zerg who regularly crushes terrans in super lategame. Maru wrecks zergs in extra lategame. You may be correct, but I think at the highest levels - it is debatable. Seems to me - the player better wins in ZvT/TvZ. I would still think Maru is a favorite or at least an equal in a bo7 v any zerg playing today. I'd really like to see our Finnish boy play against the disgusting (not in a bad way...I think haha) BC play Maru pulled out in WCG. | ||
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droppanda
Australia176 Posts
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Athenau
569 Posts
On August 02 2019 11:02 AttackZerg wrote: Serral is the only top zerg who regularly crushes terrans in super lategame. Maru wrecks zergs in extra lategame. You may be correct, but I think at the highest levels - it is debatable. Seems to me - the player better wins in ZvT/TvZ. I would still think Maru is a favorite or at least an equal in a bo7 v any zerg playing today. Lategame zerg is the worst thing in this game. Unfortunately, Blizzard seems to like the playstyle, which is why massing infestors behind static defence is still a thing while mass ravens and mass carriers (deservedly) got removed from the game. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On August 02 2019 12:17 Athenau wrote: Lategame zerg is the worst thing in this game. Unfortunately, Blizzard seems to like the playstyle, which is why massing infestors behind static defence is still a thing while mass ravens and mass carriers (deservedly) got removed from the game. My skill, ability and game knowledge are each variables that open the door for an incorrect assessment. I stand by my assessment regarding Maru and Serral. The lategame isn't broken enough to give Serral or any zerg an auto win against at least one terran. At weaker levels of play, many things feel 'broken' due to skill disparity and ease of execution. Which at my level is why so many Zergs shed tears about O.P toss while believing they should get away with thoughtless and bland swarmhost play. | ||
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Colouss
United States501 Posts
On August 02 2019 12:14 droppanda wrote: This tournament is brutal. You need to come first or second to have made any money. Even 3rd and 4th prize money is barely going to cover travel and accommodation expenses which players are responsible for. Asus really should have covered airfare and accommodation for participants of this tournament. The prizepool is really reminiscence of the dreamhack tournaments of old. With the winner winning 10k and only the top8 get anything at all. I'd say it's reasonable for a weekend tournament that's independently hosted. | ||
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Psychonian
United States2322 Posts
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On August 02 2019 14:47 Psychonian wrote: Morning yall, games of the tournament so far? Missed most of the action yesterday. Serral v Inno was exciting. | ||
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
Group A: This group is absolutely nuts and the undoubtedly the group of Death. it would be more scary if Solar was swapped for Serral, but I think this is scary enough with 4 Koreans. As for me, hoping for a soO/herO result. herO vs Innovation soO vs Solar soO vs herO Innovation vs Solar herO vs Innovation Group B: Another strong group, Showtime and Dear look a cut above the rest, and as a Toss main, they have my vote, Time looks great but I think his TvP is just a bit short of beating Dear and Showtime. Showtime (who is 4-0 vs Koreans this tourney) advances first with superb vZ and vP followed by Dear who beats Time twice. Dear vs Time Showtime vs Ragnarok Showtime vs Dear Time vs Ragnarok Dear vs Ragnarok Group C: I'm gonna be honest, I fear for Neeb, him beating Serral would be more likely at the start of the year when he had better vZ, but now... I don't know. Don't know much about his or Zest's vP so not sure how that'll matchup. My head is Serral/Zest but my heart is Neeb/Serral (or Neeb/Zest but I don't think Serral will allow that to happen). Either way: Serral vs Ptitdrogo Neeb vs Zest (Hoping) Neeb vs Serral Zest vs Ptitdrogo Serral vs Zest Group D: With Stats form yesterday I think this group might be more difficult to predict. I still have my favorites if he does show up today. This group is still crazy though. Anyone can go through in my honest opinion. Still gonna go with Stats/Reynor though. Reynor vs Stats Gumiho vs HeroMarine Reynor vs Gumiho Stats vs HeroMarine Stats vs Gumiho As a result, these are my (once again, Heart, not Head, although some do make sense in my head too) predictions: In advancing order: Group A: soO, herO Group B: Showtime, Dear Group C: Neeb, Serral Group D: Reynor, Stats I can also see that I predicted 0 Terrans to advance to the Ro8, and with this roster of Terrans I can see this happening. Honestly, it's up to Innovation and Gumiho to carry the Terran banner, I don't think Time can do it (But I'd like to be pleasantly surprised if Time does upset Dear) | ||
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RandomPlayer
Russian Federation394 Posts
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
I hope for: herO, Solar TIME, Showtime Serral, Zest Stats, Heromarine | ||
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Luolis
Finland7113 Posts
Thank you my friend. More is coming :Dd | ||
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
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digmouse
China6329 Posts
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JoeCool
Germany2520 Posts
On August 02 2019 15:55 digmouse wrote: Holy F that group A and C. I think D is going to be exciting too. Group A: Innovation & Soo (it's a heart over head call) Group B: Showtime & Dear (I really want Showtime to advance) Group C: Serral & Zest (I think these two are most likely to advance) Group D: Reynor & Stats (IMO this is the hardest group to predict since anyone could make it out) | ||
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Ej_
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 02 2019 15:00 Za7oX wrote: group A could be Ro4 of GSL @_@ Nowadays not. Both soO and Inno are in their worse part of the year(not in the RO16 of Code S), herO isn't the herO we used to know. The irony of this is that Solar seems to me the best player in the group, crazy. But maybe soO will find his lost mojo, Innovation will find his lost installation disk and does format & reinstall. And herO will find his smile | ||
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
On August 02 2019 16:08 Ej_ wrote: There's group A and then there's the rest lol Serral & Showtime > Group A | ||
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tigon_ridge
482 Posts
Serral, certainly. I don't know about Showtime. A single good run doesn't define a player's overall strength. He's also getting up there in the age department. At 25, it'll really be hard to improve much, which is not to say it's impossible. Speaking of age, it's getting harder to see young talents getting into SC2, which is why in some ways I've been just as happy for Reynor's success as Serral's. If we can't get more kids to get into SC2, the game will eventually die. | ||
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dysenterymd
1237 Posts
Group B: Dear and Showtime Group C: Serral and Zest Group D: Stats and Gumiho Least confident about group A, but Inno bias! Gumiho > Reynor feels right to me because even if Reynor has improved against mech, surely Gumiho, even in poor form, is much better than Big Gabe. Could be wrong though. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6934 Posts
To think there was this one guy who said "no good Koreans will be interested in this" lol Predictions: A: soO, Solar B: Dear, Showtime C: Serral, Neeb/Zest (this is hard :/ ) D: Stats, Reynor | ||
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
B: Showtime, Dear C: Serral, Zest D: Stats, Reynor | ||
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UnLarva
458 Posts
What comes to top Euro-Zergs, I tend to think its Reynor whom have better chance to make it to the finals, but all-Korean Ro4-scenario doesn't feel now too far-fetched either. Tournament would go little bit anti-climatic from Finnish perspective if Serral manages to blow this up now. But, but, lol my predictions lol, Finnish Serral Fanboi's insecurity speaks now. At least I got that Zhuge stealing a map from Serral right! | ||
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easyway6
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Poopi
France12888 Posts
Group A:  INnoVation SolarGroup B: DearShoWTimEGroup C: SerralZestGroup D: ReynorStatsI hope to see at least 1 terran in the ro8 | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On August 02 2019 17:59 easyway6 wrote: innovation all the way. hope ya make it to blizzcon. He can't. | ||
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Need
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DBooN
Germany2727 Posts
Though judging by his results yesterday he seems to be doing fine. | ||
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
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Azhrak
Finland1196 Posts
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HolydaKing
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Soyuz
Hong Kong996 Posts
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Elentos
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Ej_
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Penev
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Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
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HolydaKing
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Elentos
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HolydaKing
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On August 02 2019 19:21 Andi_Goldberger wrote: this has to be the worst widow mine drop defense of 2k19 Yeah, that first one at the natural was just terrible. | ||
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seemsgood
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Penev
28482 Posts
On August 02 2019 19:24 HolydaKing wrote: herO in game 2 was about the level of Bomber. harsh but true | ||
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Poopi
France12888 Posts
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Elentos
55553 Posts
On August 02 2019 19:26 Poopi wrote: So now good herO is as bad as bad HerO? HerO would be by far the worst player at this event including Bomber and Zhugeliang. | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On August 02 2019 19:28 Elentos wrote: HerO would be by far the worst player at this event including Bomber and Zhugeliang. Ok, but what about Luolis? | ||
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Elentos
55553 Posts
Let's not shittalk the casters. Incontrol isn't here anymore to call DBooN a shithead so it's not worth it. | ||
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Acrofales
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TheGoatPuncher
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Ej_
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seemsgood
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Acrofales
Spain18035 Posts
On August 02 2019 19:38 Ej_ wrote: So what happened in the early game that Ragnarok got dumpstered this badly? Oracles. Which he scouted, but still wrecked his mineral lines. | ||
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HolydaKing
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Penev
28482 Posts
On August 02 2019 19:38 TheGoatPuncher wrote: Anyone have the stats on the ZvZ of Solar and soO? I'd imagine soO's favoured pretty hard in this next match? soO is 46–32 (58.97%) in games and 19–10 (65.52%) in matches against Solar | ||
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
I know people seem to like Creighton Olsen's casting for some reason but I gotta say, his game knowledge is really really poor and in a solo cast, it's a bit too obvious for me. I feel like he says so many words but none of them every have any value. | ||
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HolydaKing
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 02 2019 19:38 TheGoatPuncher wrote: Anyone have the stats on the ZvZ of Solar and soO? I'd imagine soO's favoured pretty hard in this next match? It's 46-32(19-10) in favor of soO who won the last three bo3, each time going to the decider; not as onesided as one could think. | ||
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TheGoatPuncher
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SuperFanBoy
New Zealand1068 Posts
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TheGoatPuncher
76 Posts
On August 02 2019 19:43 Xain0n wrote: It's 46-32(19-10) in favor of soO who won the last three bo3, each time going to the decider; not as onesided as one could think. Oh. Well that's interesting. Does soO seem particularly susceptible to some build Solar might pull? | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On August 02 2019 19:42 blooblooblahblah wrote: I know people seem to like Creighton Olsen's casting for some reason but I gotta say, his game knowledge is really really poor and in a solo cast, it's a bit too obvious for me. I feel like he says so many words but none of them every have any value. So he needs an Artosis? | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 02 2019 19:47 TheGoatPuncher wrote: Oh. Well that's interesting. Does soO seem particularly susceptible to some build Solar might pull? I suspect it's just Solar's form getting better while soO progressively declining this year, but I didn't watch those games so I can't really tell. | ||
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
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Azhrak
Finland1196 Posts
On August 02 2019 19:46 SuperFanBoy wrote: It sucks that a lot of the big matches aren't being streamed. I really wanted to watch showtime vs ragnarok. Every match has a stream. Just not the main stream. Here is a list. | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On August 02 2019 19:46 SuperFanBoy wrote: It sucks that a lot of the big matches aren't being streamed. I really wanted to watch showtime vs ragnarok. Group B is streamed just not on the main stream... | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On August 02 2019 19:50 blooblooblahblah wrote: wtf showtime is playing so well well, he beat reynor 4-1 recently. | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On August 02 2019 19:50 blooblooblahblah wrote: wtf showtime is playing so well He seems to be in good form but this game is just Ragnarok playing like a gold league player | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On August 02 2019 19:50 blooblooblahblah wrote: wtf showtime is playing so well I liked the call to get blink. What do you think of a dark shrine in games like that? He had a lot of money when defending. | ||
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
yeah i picked him as a favourite for this series but it's kinda crazy how he hasn't lost a game this tournament vs only koreans, and is generally in sick form. it wasn't too long ago that he had that emo twitter post and then injured himself. | ||
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Penev
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Ej_
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Elentos
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
On August 02 2019 19:53 Ej_ wrote: I liked the call to get blink. What do you think of a dark shrine in games like that? He had a lot of money when defending. Yeah i think it would've been a good idea but he was just very taxed APM wise. Btw, Ragnarok has done very well to make this game very playable. It hasn't been an ideal game but he's giving himself a chance EDIT: as soon as i started writing this, everything went to crap | ||
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seemsgood
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Acrofales
Spain18035 Posts
Die Mauer!!! | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6934 Posts
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Penev
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Elentos
55553 Posts
On August 02 2019 20:03 Penev wrote: Showtime beating Rag isn't unexpected but the wall has been looking very solid lately. I wonder how far he can go. I was expecting him to win this group because RagnaroK and Dear vs Protoss are just memes. | ||
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HolydaKing
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Harris1st
Germany6934 Posts
On August 02 2019 19:40 Penev wrote: soO is 46–32 (58.97%) in games and 19–10 (65.52%) in matches against Solar soOooo what happened? | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
Jetlag | ||
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Penev
28482 Posts
On August 02 2019 20:04 Elentos wrote: I was expecting him to win this group because RagnaroK and Dear vs Protoss are just memes. yeah PvP really isn't Dear's thing, weird. Perhaps it brings out the derp in him earlier | ||
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AzAlexZ
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blooblooblahblah
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Penev
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not that surprising, Solar has been looking better than soO for a while | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
Well, he doesn't exactly look good in ZvZ lately... http://aligulac.com/players/125/results/?after=&before=&event=&race=z&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= Especially the series against Namshar was awful. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On August 02 2019 20:08 HolydaKing wrote: Well, he doesn't exactly look good in ZvZ lately... http://aligulac.com/players/125/results/?after=&before=&event=&race=z&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= Especially the series against Namshar was awful. Was absolutely atrocious. SoO has been massing roaches every match up for half a year and it has caught up to him now. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
I would love to see it. Go Swarm! | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
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DBooN
Germany2727 Posts
On August 02 2019 20:10 Ej_ wrote: Was absolutely atrocious. SoO has been massing roaches every match up for half a year and it has caught up to him now. Maybe he's possessed by Hyun. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18035 Posts
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Ej_
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But HyuN would come up with a new broken roach timing once in a while and kill you with 40 supply advantage of army. | ||
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
On August 02 2019 20:17 Acrofales wrote: I don't really understand how Showtime lost that. He won the earlygame skirmish, he took no economic damage at any point and they both sat back and macro'd up... then Dear just rolled in and killed him. Weird. He went 2 robo colossi while Dear went basically pure gateway units. If Showtime survived that, he would've been in a very good position but it was a bit of a weird style by Dear that isn't super popular. Not that 2 robo colossi is standard either, I've basically never seen it until this tournament where Showtime has done it twice now (and he beat Stats with it) | ||
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Elentos
55553 Posts
On August 02 2019 20:17 Acrofales wrote: I don't really understand how Showtime lost that. He won the earlygame skirmish, he took no economic damage at any point and they both sat back and macro'd up... then Dear just rolled in and killed him. Weird. Showtime was going for an army that builds up more slowly. He needed more time. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
It is the most exciting TvZ for me and he is the best at it. | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
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HeroSandro
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AttackZerg
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HolydaKing
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TheGoatPuncher
76 Posts
On August 02 2019 20:39 HeroSandro wrote: Solar walks the walk. And boy is it satisfying to watch! Solar is a burning man today. | ||
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
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Colouss
United States501 Posts
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Elentos
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On August 02 2019 20:46 Elentos wrote: This build's power has severely deteriorated over time. Even unscouted it barely works against the top Zergs anymore. Doesn't help that it's basically countered by just queens and the lings you'd have made regardless because you saw hellions. | ||
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Elentos
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On August 02 2019 20:51 Elentos wrote: I'm already looking forward to the 2 hour break before groups C and D start already btw. Hopefully not ;( | ||
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Durnuu
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Elentos
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Poopi
France12888 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
Oh hopefully yes, still at work for 3 more hours. | ||
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TheGoatPuncher
76 Posts
On August 02 2019 20:57 AttackZerg wrote: Wow. Inno is a beast. He took a disadvantage and played it as if he was clearly ahead. It was a hell of a game. This is why Innovation's TvZ's are must watch. | ||
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Koivusto
Finland542 Posts
On August 02 2019 20:14 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Guess who is here after 400 km!! The stage here is frigging beautiful o.O well done asus rog and assembly | ||
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Colouss
United States501 Posts
On August 02 2019 21:05 Koivusto wrote: The stage here is frigging beautiful o.O well done asus rog and assembly It really gives me the old dreamhack vibes. I'm loving the stage from what I can see from the stream. | ||
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seemsgood
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
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HolydaKing
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AttackZerg
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Every terran composition needs widow mines. | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On August 02 2019 21:16 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Inno has been really shaky in this tournament Not only in this tournament sadly... | ||
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AttackZerg
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On August 02 2019 21:19 Penev wrote: now for soO vs herO, I hope it's not too bad SoO just played a terrible zvz match. He is either going to play great or garbage no middleground, imo. | ||
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Penev
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On August 02 2019 21:21 AttackZerg wrote: SoO just played a terrible zvz match. He is either going to play great or garbage no middleground, imo. it's not just soO, herO doesn't look great either | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On August 02 2019 21:22 Penev wrote: it's not just soO, herO doesn't look great either But herO is said to have one of the best PvZ's going by the GSL group nominations, if I remember correctly. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On August 02 2019 21:22 Penev wrote: it's not just soO, herO doesn't look great either I'll take your word for it, the only recent games of his I've seen were his match against Dark in ro8 or 16 of gsl or whatever. I have no baseline. | ||
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Elentos
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HolydaKing
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AttackZerg
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Dark is the best ZvP in the world, imo. | ||
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DBooN
Germany2727 Posts
On August 02 2019 21:33 Harris1st wrote: Maybe Rag is jetlagged after all. But so is TIME I guess Jetlag could still be affecting them differently! | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 02 2019 21:26 HolydaKing wrote: OK nvm, Ragnarok probably isn't top3 KR zerg like I assumed some GSL thread earlier. TIME 2-1 Ragnarok. Probably Dark, then Rogue and Solar atm. Ragnarok didn't perform well this time. Maybe like Dark, Solar and Rogue? | ||
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Elentos
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Elentos
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Harris1st
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 You cannot destroy Bomber and Stats just to lose to Dear and TIME | ||
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Elentos
55553 Posts
Sounds old school | ||
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
I don't think Time can do it (But I'd like to be pleasantly surprised if Time does upset Dear) Wow what a pleasant surprise | ||
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tilhorizon
Germany191 Posts
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DBooN
Germany2727 Posts
On August 02 2019 21:50 Harris1st wrote: Showtime You cannot destroy Bomber and Stats just to lose to Dear and TIME TIME is strong. | ||
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DBooN
Germany2727 Posts
On August 02 2019 21:59 tilhorizon wrote: Time did get destroyed by showtime last time they played so he does 2 All ins with all the scv´s and wins Maybe showtime won the last time because he was greedy then? | ||
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Colouss
United States501 Posts
Only surprise is that Dear beat Showtime imo, TIME is much stronger than Bomber atm. | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
and I dont know why but I was so sure Time would advance and Showtime will go home. A bit sad for Showtime he has shows really good games | ||
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osliang
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https://i.redd.it/l7x9o8ro71e31.png | ||
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Italy3963 Posts
On August 02 2019 22:01 MarianoSC2 wrote: herO will advance and I dont know why but I was so sure Time would advance and Showtime will go home. A bit sad for Showtime he has shows really good games Nice prediction. I like TIME, in any of case! | ||
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Motlu
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osliang
China108 Posts
On August 02 2019 22:01 yht9657 wrote: Newbee teamhouse environment seems good They don't live in the Team house, but practice from home most of the time. | ||
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thickertom
China612 Posts
On August 02 2019 22:04 Motlu wrote: Do we know if Newbee have a teamhouse? I was under the impression that all the teamhouses in korea have pretty much dissolved, with a few exceptions ofc. Scarlett stays in the teamhouse of Newbee in June. She went back to South Korea in July. PS: Yes, TIME showed ShoWTimE. | ||
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hunterqiji
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On August 02 2019 21:59 tilhorizon wrote: Time did get destroyed by showtime last time they played so he does 2 All ins with all the scv´s and wins | ||
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Ej_
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On August 02 2019 22:06 osliang wrote: They don't live in the Team house, but practice from home most of the time. It was a joke. | ||
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On August 02 2019 22:07 Kopernikus wrote: i hate hero I love herO, he validates the idiotic builds that I lose on ladder to. | ||
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osliang
China108 Posts
On August 02 2019 22:04 Motlu wrote: Do we know if Newbee have a teamhouse? I was under the impression that all the teamhouses in korea have pretty much dissolved, with a few exceptions ofc. Newbee has a team house in Shanghai I think? But they only stayed there for 2 weeks during the Team League Offline matches back in June. | ||
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Motlu
Australia884 Posts
On August 02 2019 22:06 thickertom wrote: Scarlett stays in the teamhouse of Newbee in June. She went back to South Korea in July. PS: Yes, TIME showed ShoWTimE. Wow thats really interesting, might partially explain why Dear and TIME seem to be improving so much recently. | ||
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osliang
China108 Posts
On August 02 2019 22:08 Motlu wrote: Wow thats really interesting, might partially explain why Dear and TIME seem to be improving so much recently. I'd give a lot of credits to the Chinese Team League. Korean players get steady income from clubs and can focus better on practice, and it gives Chinese players more chances to improve by practicing with Korean players. | ||
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CraigWT
97 Posts
On August 02 2019 22:08 Motlu wrote: Wow thats really interesting, might partially explain why Dear and TIME seem to be improving so much recently. both TSG and Newbee create a very good harmony environment between team members, and you can see players in this two teams have improved a lot recently (Time, Dear, Solar, hero) | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
How he always manages to find that 1 or 2 things that the game provides in each patch iteration and exploit them to their full potential, there is just no other player like him. As someone else has said already, its like a random abuser from the ladder just with much better skill. Now lets watch how herO cheeses out Inno :D | ||
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Elentos
55553 Posts
On August 02 2019 22:15 MarianoSC2 wrote: (basically the most famous patch player of all time) Holy absolute delusion Batman | ||
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Penev
28482 Posts
On August 02 2019 22:13 Ej_ wrote: herO confirms that he doesn't plan his strategies before the game well at least he brings his keyboard most of the time | ||
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Poopi
France12888 Posts
On August 02 2019 22:15 MarianoSC2 wrote: I hated herO for so long for being a patch toss (basically the most famous patch player of all time), but the older I am the more I appreciate his playstyle. Its down and dirty, hyper aggressive, when it fails it look unbelievable stupid, but it provides such fun and interesting games. I just find myself to root for him more and more lol How he always manages to find that 1 or 2 things that the game provides in each patch iteration and exploit them to their full potential, there is just no other player like him. As someone else has said already, its like a random abuser from the ladder just with much better skill. Now lets watch how herO cheeses out Inno :D The most famous patchplayer of all time, are you kidding me? Sure his Super Tournament win was highly patchy, but ever heard of Sniper and JonnyREcco? | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
Should have put in my opinion I guess Who else do you have in mind? | ||
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On August 02 2019 22:13 Ej_ wrote: herO confirms that he doesn't plan his strategies before the game you forgot the "/s" and with an assassin smile | ||
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Penev
28482 Posts
On August 02 2019 22:18 MarianoSC2 wrote: Should have put in my opinion I guess Who else do you have in mind?Mvp | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On August 02 2019 22:15 MarianoSC2 wrote: I hated herO for so long for being a patch toss (basically the most famous patch player of all time), but the older I am the more I appreciate his playstyle. Its down and dirty, hyper aggressive, when it fails it look unbelievable stupid, but it provides such fun and interesting games. I just find myself to root for him more and more lol How he always manages to find that 1 or 2 things that the game provides in each patch iteration and exploit them to their full potential, there is just no other player like him. As someone else has said already, its like a random abuser from the ladder just with much better skill. Now lets watch how herO cheeses out Inno :D Wtf?!?!? The most famous patch player? Is this a troll? | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On August 02 2019 22:18 Poopi wrote: The most famous patchplayer of all time, are you kidding me? Sure his Super Tournament win was highly patchy, but ever heard of Sniper and JonnyREcco? Never saw those guys play... For me, herO fits the bill the most from the players I have seen. He owned it during blink era, and then owned it during adept era. He always disappeared when the "OP things" got patched. I am not saying he was a bad player in general, he was always good but he had periods where he looked like the best in the world because of his ability to exploit the patch BS | ||
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Topin
Peru10081 Posts
 inno vs hero should be good. any recommendations so far? | ||
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Poopi
France12888 Posts
On August 02 2019 22:21 MarianoSC2 wrote: Never saw those guys play... For me, herO fits the bill the most from the players I have seen. He owned it during blink era, and then owned it during adept era. He always disappeared when the "OP things" got patched. I am not saying he was a bad player in general, but he had periods where he looked like the best in the world because of his ability to exploit the patch BS So why talking about all time if you only started watching after the era that created the term "patch*race" :o. But yes herO is kind of a patchprotoss compared to Stats / Classic or even Zest who are able to stay relevant across patches | ||
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Brutaxilos
United States2629 Posts
On August 02 2019 22:07 Ej_ wrote: I love herO, he validates the idiotic builds that I lose on ladder to. herO is the only Protoss that I genuinely love watching doing PROTOSSED strategies. | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On August 02 2019 22:23 Poopi wrote: So why talking about all time if you only started watching after the era that created the term "patch*race" :o. Yes I know I edited a bit My bad. Really didn't want to trigger | ||
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emperorofwild
87 Posts
so this time he use strips in game, and the Chinese caster use showshowtime to mark time so time won | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6934 Posts
On August 02 2019 22:26 Brutaxilos wrote: herO is the only Protoss that I genuinely love watching doing PROTOSSED strategies. Has?! Really sad for Showtime. He was doing incredible well yesterday | ||
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Ej_
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On August 02 2019 22:33 JoeCool wrote: British-english is such a beautiful language. Oi mate, innit | ||
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Penev
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On August 02 2019 22:33 JoeCool wrote: British-english is such a beautiful language. you mean English (English), Scottish, Welsh(!) and Northern Irish are all quite different | ||
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United States268 Posts
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Z3nith
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On August 02 2019 22:36 Penev wrote: you mean English (English), Scottish, Welsh(!) and Northern Irish are all quite different Then you've got all the regional variations | ||
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Penev
28482 Posts
Indeed. Like where people seem to go out of their way to NOT pronounce the letter t; Not a fan of that OI! bring me some wa-er! | ||
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JoeCool
Germany2520 Posts
On August 02 2019 22:36 Penev wrote: you mean English (English), Scottish, Welsh(!) and Northern Irish are all quite different Wha`eva Can't understand scottish tbh. | ||
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Penev
28482 Posts
try welsh :o | ||
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Z3nith
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On August 02 2019 22:46 Penev wrote: Indeed. Like where people seem to go out of their way to NOT pronounce the letter t; Not a fan of that OI! bring me some wa-er! As someone from the part of England that says wa-er, I have just become very self conscious of my accent | ||
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Poopi
France12888 Posts
I have rarely seen a caster such openly bashing the game during a tournament | ||
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Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
second series . what is inno doing | ||
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On August 02 2019 22:50 Z3nith wrote: As someone from the part of England that says wa-er, I have just become very self conscious of my accent Hehe, sorry. What did this poor innocent letter ever do to you guys though. | ||
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Koatique
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JoeCool
Germany2520 Posts
On August 02 2019 22:55 MockHamill wrote: So will the games be played now or in one hour? Theyll have a break for about an hour. | ||
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HolydaKing
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On August 02 2019 22:55 MockHamill wrote: So will the games be played now or in one hour? 1 hour, TakeTV expects next game at 17:05 CEST. | ||
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rayl991
Afghanistan80 Posts
On August 02 2019 22:49 MockHamill wrote: This is why I hate TvP. One mistake and you lose the game before it even started. And on top of that you must avoid late game at all cost. You are talking about TvZ right? oh wait..... | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On August 02 2019 23:01 Xain0n wrote: By the way, herO was sent by Assassin's Guild to slay Serral and he openly stated it; ASUS ROG should give Serral one healthy amount of bodyguards. I would love to see this match ! Think Serral would just totally dumpster herO and make his strats look like bronze league but it sure would be fun to watch. | ||
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RealityTheGreat
China564 Posts
TIME? | ||
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SamirDuran
Philippines894 Posts
On August 02 2019 23:06 RealityTheGreat wrote: The last hope of Terran is TIME? We still have gumiho and heromarine | ||
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
gumigoat is very good at weekender format | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On August 02 2019 23:10 seemsgood wrote: gumigoat is very good at weekender format He better be if he wants to advance with Reynor and Stats in his group. | ||
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Tayar
United States1439 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On August 02 2019 23:19 Tayar wrote: lol who decided taking an hour off in the middle of a broadcast was a good plan This sport had needed more breaks and shorter days for the players/casters/organizers for years. I hope they start at least following the u.s labor laws - of 30 minutes off before 5 1/2 hours and 10 minutes every 3 1/2, or something like that. We have had many bad matches because players have been pushed into unhealthy working conditions. | ||
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RealityTheGreat
China564 Posts
But Gumiho's GSL Ro.32 performance is awful, I think he will lose to Reynor. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18035 Posts
On August 02 2019 23:35 Tayar wrote: yea when i think of esports i think of unhealthy amounts of work. LOL maybe you should, though. The practice regime these guys follow is hardly ever healthy. | ||
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Koivusto
Finland542 Posts
serral-time | ||
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Canada8989 Posts
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Austria11528 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18035 Posts
On August 02 2019 23:52 Nakajin wrote: God dammit esports adds are weird... everytime You're not weak. You're a maverick. Like a rabbit in the headlights. Wtf? | ||
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opisska
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On August 02 2019 23:54 Schelim wrote: who's the guy that isn't Rotti and where is he from? Well he is from the UK, that much is easy to tell He's called Grant apparently and it's the same guy who utterly Brittished the HSC, so he'll be fine here. | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
On August 03 2019 00:01 opisska wrote: Well he is from the UK, that much is easy to tell He's called Grant apparently and it's the same guy who utterly Brittished the HSC, so he'll be fine here.yeah, i was more wondering where in the UK he was from  thanks. i didn't mean my question in any negative way, just genuinely curious. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On August 02 2019 23:45 Acrofales wrote: maybe you should, though. The practice regime these guys follow is hardly ever healthy. People my age are dying from poor health in the esports world. For our culture to sustain, we should fight for healthier work conditions. What you do at home. That shit is on you. What "we" pay you to do. That should be within reason. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On August 02 2019 23:56 Acrofales wrote: You're not weak. You're a maverick. Like a rabbit in the headlights. Wtf? I thought it was ... "Like a rabbit out a hat" If it is headlights ... wtf | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25558 Posts
On August 03 2019 00:16 AttackZerg wrote: I thought it was ... "Like a rabbit out a hat" If it is headlights ... wtf It’s like someone took the piss take ‘gamers rise up’ memes and made an actual commercial out of them. Also this Serral fellow is pretty good | ||
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Penev
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TheBloodyDwarf
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Philippines894 Posts
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Soyuz
Hong Kong996 Posts
On August 03 2019 00:18 Schelim wrote: is GumiGOAT vs Gabe being streamed anywhere? On the CreightonOlsen stream | ||
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FBTsingLoong
China410 Posts
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
i see Reynor - Stats there | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25558 Posts
On August 03 2019 00:34 Z3nith wrote: I wonder what Blizzard are watching to make them think that Protoss needs nerfing against zerg. My games I imagine | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
can't tell if self-deprecating Zerg player or overly confident Protoss oh wait you're British. self-deprecating Zerg it is. | ||
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Elentos
55553 Posts
Matches are played one after the other. | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
ah okay. i was afraid that may be the case. thanks! | ||
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RealityTheGreat
China564 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/ZCOh3iv.jpg) It is time to upload this image. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 03 2019 00:34 Z3nith wrote: I wonder what Blizzard are watching to make them think that Protoss needs nerfing against zerg. Early game nerfs are valid, that's where the Protoss strength lies at, the question is how they change the lategame PvZ where Protoss is shorthanded | ||
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Penev
28482 Posts
On August 03 2019 00:45 Acrofales wrote: Lol. How did Creighton call that battle so wrong? commentating is harder without an Artosis sitting next to you | ||
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Germany2727 Posts
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yht9657
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On August 03 2019 00:53 SamirDuran wrote: Looks like stats is doing late game practice against reynor? He could've ended reynor earlier but he chose to wait for the mothership instead. Feels more like he tried to practice lategame on the first map and then decided to kill him right before infestors come out. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
If I truly thought protoss or terran were better ... if I truly thought that - I would play them. Most of the games I lose to protoss, they trick me, out macro me, beat me in a war ... ect ect.... I never lose and think "It is because of the damn programmers I lost this one". If I was a competitor who thought that way.. I would expect to have a crap career. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25558 Posts
On August 03 2019 00:41 Schelim wrote: can't tell if self-deprecating Zerg player or overly confident Protoss oh wait you're British. self-deprecating Zerg it is. British? Self-deprecating? :O Whatever next? That we like a good cuppa tea? | ||
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UnLarva
458 Posts
Just make yourself good as a Random. Everyone would benefit from that choice. You could at least cry about imba in every thread you go. No fences. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On August 03 2019 01:02 UnLarva wrote: @AttackZerg: Just make yourself good as a Random. Everyone would benefit from that choice. You could at least cry about imba in every thread you go. No fences. I will play zerg until there is only zerg left. Will of the swarm yo. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On August 03 2019 00:32 Wombat_NI wrote: It’s like someone took the piss take ‘gamers rise up’ memes and made an actual commercial out of them. Also this Serral fellow is pretty good I had nothing to do with that, I swear! | ||
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Spain18035 Posts
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UnLarva
458 Posts
On August 03 2019 01:04 AttackZerg wrote: I will play zerg until there is only zerg left. Will of the swarm yo. Roger that. But if Blizzard goes to the corner and competitive scene must be saved by forcing the elite to the corner, what you would do? Ultimately, the ultimate balance is achieved only by panspermia. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On August 03 2019 01:08 UnLarva wrote: Roger that. But if Blizzard goes to the corner and competitive scene must be saved by forcing the elite to the corner, what you would do? Ultimately, the ultimate balance is achieved only by panspermia. If blizzard is rounding up the elite..... I will be safely at home watching on livestream ... like now 8)( | ||
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Poopi
France12888 Posts
Stats had to work hard for that victory.GuMiho and HeRoMaRinE will have a lot of troubles getting out of that group | ||
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Finland542 Posts
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Germany2727 Posts
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On August 03 2019 01:12 Koivusto wrote: I feel like Serral is gonna stomp Zest. Of course! | ||
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China564 Posts
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Koivusto
Finland542 Posts
How was drunk santa? | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
Unlike most of the other players, the koreans have all watched his games and prepared accordingly. It is hardest to win with a target on your back. That is what made the goats of bw so special. Every korean pro is a threat, not just the top 3. Go Serral! | ||
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Penev
28482 Posts
On August 03 2019 01:18 yht9657 wrote: I would love to see Gumigod playing against Reynor tbh but I think his TvT is probably too good they can meet in the decider | ||
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yht9657
1810 Posts
Noice. | ||
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France12888 Posts
On August 03 2019 01:16 Poopi wrote: Heromarine has a shot against Gumiho I think. That's my boy! | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
If Serral loses we will see him | ||
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Poland4731 Posts
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On August 03 2019 01:30 Silvanel wrote: Who is the guy with heavy english (i think) accent? His voice really puts me off (Thats Harstem | ||
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Penev
28482 Posts
yeah he's really overdoing the accent | ||
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Poland4731 Posts
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28482 Posts
On August 03 2019 01:32 Silvanel wrote: The other guy. I guess Grant (Grant Hill) judging by list of comentators. I usually do not have problem with no native speakers (like Harstem). we know | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On August 03 2019 01:25 HolydaKing wrote: Heromachine roflstomped Gumigod. 2-0 happened just now. | ||
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Finland542 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18035 Posts
On August 03 2019 01:13 DBooN wrote: I feel like Zest is gonna stopm Serral. He tried. | ||
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Germany23576 Posts
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stilt
France2749 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On August 03 2019 01:49 MockHamill wrote: Serral making the Koreans look like low GM. ZhuGeLiang on the other hand! | ||
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On August 03 2019 01:49 stilt wrote: Serral is really impressive. Yeah, he's making the right calls. He saw he killed so many immortals and then just decided to kill him. | ||
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DBooN
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He stomped his drones atleast. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
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Denied so far | ||
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JoeCool
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On August 03 2019 01:53 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: I think this crowd is bit Serral biased I wonder why... | ||
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Foreigners trashing koreans left and right xD Europe holds | ||
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On August 03 2019 01:56 RHoudini wrote: EU terrans beating the crap out of Korean pros. Cannot remember seeing that... ever... Well, Jinro did decently in one GSL I think. He got like to the quarter final or so? Or was it even semi final? | ||
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Penev
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On August 03 2019 01:58 HolydaKing wrote: Well, Jinro did decently in one GSL I think. He got like to the quarter final or so? 2x semis | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 03 2019 01:49 MockHamill wrote: Serral making the Koreans look like low GM. Not a single top4 Korean player is there. If we consider Serral top4 player of the world, isn't he supposed to kill them? soO and Inno not in top for and nowhere near it, Zest isn't the top championship player anymore(at least for 2k19). Who else of the top Koreans is there? Solar? When Solar looks like the best Korean in the tournament you have an issue (on the other hand we're missing Maru, Trap, Classic and the last Code S showed some promise about TY and Rogue) edit> maybe Stats but except Katowice he didn't show much... | ||
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HolydaKing
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What a god, it's pretty long ago so I barely remember it. ^^ | ||
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On August 03 2019 01:59 RampancyTW wrote: Anyone have a link to the Group D stream? OP stream 2 link leads to a non-broadcasting channel https://www.twitch.tv/creightonolsen | ||
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On August 03 2019 02:01 Latr02 wrote: Over the last year and some change Gabe is 0-7 in matches and 2-16 in maps against Korean Protoss. A win here would be huge. You have to break the streak at some point | ||
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On August 03 2019 02:01 Latr02 wrote: Over the last year and some change Gabe is 0-7 in matches and 2-16 in maps against Korean Protoss. A win here would be huge. A map is already huge. ^^ | ||
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Xain0n
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On August 03 2019 01:58 HolydaKing wrote: Well, Jinro did decently in one GSL I think. He got like to the quarter final or so? Or was it even semi final? ThorZain beating Polt, Lucifron beating Mvp? | ||
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RHoudini
Belgium3627 Posts
On August 03 2019 01:59 HolydaKing wrote: What a god, it's pretty long ago so I barely remember it. ^^ Feels like a century ago, in a different game... | ||
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On August 03 2019 02:03 RHoudini wrote: Feels like a century ago, in a different game... it was in the era where SC2 wasn't dying yet, an extremely short era that was :p | ||
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Poopi
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On August 03 2019 02:02 TheAnarchy wrote: If Life would be playing he probably won 10 gsl in a row with this low level (except he purporsly lost one for the fun). Life was playing on ladder and got trashed by aLive. Nuff said, old stars can’t keep up forever ^^. He is so overrated it’s not funny anymore, especially since he is a match fixer | ||
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On August 03 2019 02:02 TheAnarchy wrote: If Life would be playing he probably won 10 gsl in a row with this low level (except he purporsly lost one for the fun). Life would surely be fighting for a GSL title, have you actually looked at Maru's or Serral's mechanics? Where do you see the decay? This tale about foreigners winning because koreans became weak is so delusional. | ||
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On August 03 2019 02:05 deacon.frost wrote: lol that Zest macro of STats You saw that! You saw that! | ||
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 03 2019 02:07 Poopi wrote: Life was playing on ladder and got trashed by aLive. Nuff said, old stars can’t keep up forever ^^. He is so overrated it’s not funny anymore, especially since he is a match fixer Of course that now when he's not a pro and lost connection he won't be the absolute top, duh. Armstrong wouldn't be near the top nowadays either | ||
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JoeCool
Germany2520 Posts
On August 03 2019 02:02 TheAnarchy wrote: If Life would be playing he probably won 10 gsl in a row with this low level (except he purporsly lost one for the fun). ... yeah probably. Plus he'd only use his left foot to play the game. | ||
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DBooN
Germany2727 Posts
On August 03 2019 02:08 Xain0n wrote: Life would surely be fighting for a GSL title, have you actually looked at Maru's or Serral's mechanics? Where do you see the decay? This tale about foreigners winning because koreans became weak is so delusional. But you keep telling us how weak code S has become | ||
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TheAnarchy
Chile1105 Posts
On August 03 2019 02:07 Poopi wrote: Life was playing on ladder and got trashed by aLive. Nuff said, old stars can’t keep up forever ^^. He is so overrated it’s not funny anymore, especially since he is a match fixer He isnt training as pro and its a ladder match so? Competition now days is a joke. Is the same when sc was dying and Flash and JD dominated | ||
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United States7454 Posts
I hate cheaters. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On August 03 2019 02:10 JoeCool wrote: ... yeah probably. Plus he'd only use his left foot to play the game. Life is SC2's Chuck Norris, huh? | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On August 03 2019 02:08 Xain0n wrote: Life would surely be fighting for a GSL title, have you actually looked at Maru's or Serral's mechanics? Where do you see the decay? This tale about foreigners winning because koreans became weak is so delusional. How delusional can you be to not realize that the Korean scene is way weaker than it ever has been before? | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On August 03 2019 02:10 TheAnarchy wrote: He isnt training as pro and its a ladder match so? Competition now days is a joke. Is the same when sc was dying and Flash and JD dominated LOL. sc wasn't dying. Blizzard killed our scene to consolidate power and release a new game where they had control. You have no factual basis for your claim. Sponsorship were still over 200k for these guys at the time. Just because the first phase of stars are phased out by more talented gamers, does not mean the game has died. LOL | ||
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Moonerz
United States446 Posts
I can't see Serral not winning this tournament. No one remaining should give him much trouble besides Stats maybe. Group A got rid of both Inno and Soo. | ||
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On August 03 2019 02:13 Moonerz wrote: If the Kespa teams were still in full swing the level of play would be much much higher than we are seeing today. But it is what it is. I can't see Serral not winning this tournament. No one remaining should give him much trouble besides Stats maybe. Group A got rid of both Inno and Soo. Reynor is not out yet. And that guy is fully capable of beating Serral. | ||
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On August 03 2019 02:13 Moonerz wrote: If the Kespa teams were still in full swing the level of play would be much much higher than we are seeing today. But it is what it is. I can't see Serral not winning this tournament. No one remaining should give him much trouble besides Stats maybe. Group A got rid of both Inno and Soo. Would they though? Both don't play exceptionally well | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 03 2019 02:10 DBooN wrote: But you keep telling us how weak code S has become The korean scene has lost depth, I keep telling you that Code A is weaker and that taking Code S titles consecutively is easier(winner privileges play a role in that); winning Code S is still pretty hard and the top korean players are still very strong. | ||
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On August 03 2019 02:12 AttackZerg wrote: LOL. sc wasn't dying. Blizzard killed our scene to consolidate power and release a new game where they had control. You have no factual basis for your claim. Sponsorship were still over 200k for these guys at the time. Just because the first phase of stars are phased out by more talented gamers, does not mean the game has died. LOL After Savior (the best SC zerg player ever) incident SC was dying badly. Foreing scene was non existent (our clan tot dismantled, mondi, testie, draco, etc all retired). In korea lvl was also very weak, flash at first was low cheeser and gained the throne with weak competition such as a mediocre bisu and jd. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On August 03 2019 02:26 TheAnarchy wrote: After Savior (the best SC zerg player ever) incident SC was dying badly. Foreing scene was non existent (our clan tot dismantled, mondi, testie, draco, etc all retired). In korea lvl was also very weak, flash at first was low cheeser and gained the throne with weak competition such as a mediocre bisu and jd. Wow, you're gonna trigger a lot of Bisu and JD fans with that. :D | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 03 2019 02:23 deacon.frost wrote: Would they though? Both don't play exceptionally well They weren't before winning Katowice and IEM, and they didn't after those victories. Yet they won. | ||
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
On August 03 2019 02:31 Splynn wrote: Did Neeb just say that he made this build on the fly and then 2-0'd Ptitdrogo with it? That's kinda crazy. Not really, he said he doesn't know how to hold it himself and he adjusted it slightly based on what Zest did against him | ||
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sudete
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On August 03 2019 02:32 JoeCool wrote: Not looking great for Gumiho Feels a bit like reynor has done nothing for the past 2 minutes though | ||
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TheAnarchy
Chile1105 Posts
On August 03 2019 02:28 HolydaKing wrote: Wow, you're gonna trigger a lot of Bisu and JD fans with that. :D Do they even exist? I only rember good players such as garimto, boxer, yellow, nada, savior, etc. I played SC since 98 till 2007 then competition was very low and borring. I remember in good times there were especial servers (wgtour and others). | ||
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
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Splynn
United States225 Posts
On August 03 2019 02:33 TheAnarchy wrote: Do they even exist? I only rember good players such as garimto, boxer, yellow, nada, savior, etc. I played SC since 98 till 2007 then competition was very low and borring. I remember in good times there were especial servers (wgtour and others). Yea, they exist. Jaedong was the strongest/best Zerg of all time. I'm one of the triggered Jaedong fans that you were told about. | ||
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JoeCool
Germany2520 Posts
On August 03 2019 02:32 JoeCool wrote: Not looking great for Gumiho Well that didn't age very well... | ||
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Latr02
United States268 Posts
On August 03 2019 02:37 rayl991 wrote: Not sure whose idea it is to have so many PvP on the main stage.... It's Serral's group in Finland | ||
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Moonerz
United States446 Posts
On August 03 2019 02:37 rayl991 wrote: Not sure whose idea it is to have so many PvP on the main stage.... They really wanted to get Serral on main stage. But I agree group D is way more interesting. | ||
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AttackZerg
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On August 03 2019 02:26 TheAnarchy wrote: After Savior (the best SC zerg player ever) incident SC was dying badly. Foreing scene was non existent (our clan tot dismantled, mondi, testie, draco, etc all retired). In korea lvl was also very weak, flash at first was low cheeser and gained the throne with weak competition such as a mediocre bisu and jd. Mechanically - Savior was an inaccurate joke and already a sagging failure as Jaedong took over. Effort overtook him as the best zerg on his own team long before that, Idra talked about Effort being the best on the team long before Savior was found out to be using his position to destroy people. Savior was good before Protoss knew how to fast expand and when Terrans still played 1 base style or 2 base all-ins. You have no metric for anything your say. Mondi, Testie, Draco all have retired and unretired so many times it is pointless to point to one time. We never had a scene other then WCG and tl.net - if by scene you mean tournaments with money. Iccup exploded with top koreans after the match fixing scandle (unrelated). Ret, who was better then everyone you mentioned, was playing as were many others. Sounds more like, you were young once and had a decent life and things were good - you got older and your life is hard, so you shit on things. Nobody from this games past could last a tournament with these guys. Savior couldn't qualify for a BW league even if he wasn't banned for life. Your wrong to the point of revisionism. Same type of person says "Bobby Fischer would be god if he played today", Nope. He would get dunked on by the entire top ten... or Bruce Lee would be a champion figher ..... Nope, just a small guy with great theatrical and athletic ability who would lose to a similarly sized female ufc fighter. Savior was good for a few years and then was garbage for the last few years. Forget Adrenal much? (been playing since 99 - on every server, including the polish and chinese ones, I was here for the wdtour scam and wgtour and gamei and everything else, r.i.p fish) | ||
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On August 03 2019 02:35 Splynn wrote: Yea, they exist. Jaedong was the strongest/best Zerg of all time. I'm one of the triggered Jaedong fans that you were told about. | ||
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UnLarva
458 Posts
On August 03 2019 02:24 Xain0n wrote: The korean scene has lost depth, I keep telling you that Code A is weaker and that taking Code S titles consecutively is easier(winner privileges play a role in that); winning Code S is still pretty hard and the top korean players are still very strong. Right on Commander. A prize of Eurofields has come bigger... | ||
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Germany2520 Posts
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Chile1105 Posts
On August 03 2019 02:44 AttackZerg wrote: Mechanically - Savior was an inaccurate joke and already a sagging failure as Jaedong took over. Effort overtook him as the best zerg on his own team long before that, Idra talked about Effort being the best on the team long before Savior was found out to be using his position to destroy people. Savior was good before Protoss knew how to fast expand and when Terrans still played 1 base style or 2 base all-ins. You have no metric for anything your say. Mondi, Testie, Draco all have retired and unretired so many times it is pointless to point to one time. We never had a scene other then WCG and tl.net - if by scene you mean tournaments with money. Iccup exploded with top koreans after the match fixing scandle (unrelated). Ret, who was better then everyone you mentioned, was playing as were many others. Sounds more like, you were young once and had a decent life and things were good - you got older and your life is hard, so you shit on things. Nobody from this games past could last a tournament with these guys. Savior couldn't qualify for a BW league even if he wasn't banned for life. Your wrong to the point of revisionism. Same type of person says "Bobby Fischer would be god if he played today", Nope. He would get dunked on by the entire top ten... or Bruce Lee would be a champion figher ..... Nope, just a small guy with great theatrical and athletic ability who would lose to a similarly sized female ufc fighter. Savior was good for a few years and then was garbage for the last few years. Forget Adrenal much? LOL sorry Ret was in ToT)( with me and he was never considered better than mondi, testie, sen in their prime. You should see the wars between tot)( and pg (then with mym ). And the rest of your comment is so incorrect I will not even bother. BTW there were many international tournaments and the SC scene was bigger than sc2. | ||
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DBooN
Germany2727 Posts
Oh wait, I'm blind. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On August 03 2019 02:49 TheAnarchy wrote: LOL sorry Ret was in ToT)( with me and he was never considered better than mondi, testie, sen in their prime. You should see the wars between tot)( and pg (then with mym ). And the rest of your comment is so incorrect I will not even bother. BTW there were many international tournaments and the SC scene was bigger than sc2. You missed the part of the scene were Ret was the clear best in the world. It happened after your ass claims the scene was dead. I watched EVERY war between ToT and PG. I have been here FOREVER. I was watching when Grrrr... first went to korea on broodwar.net and battlereports.com You aren't schooling me. And, you Sir, clearly do not know anything about which you speak. The mechanics of broodwar in 2006-2007 are a childs impression of what became in 09-11. You sound like someone claiming "The Coca Cola final between yellow and boxer was the best broodwar ever played". Nope. Just more old man nostalgia. Also, I played with both Ret and Testie. Many games. Your street cred is denied. | ||
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UnLarva
458 Posts
Troll me. Better placement of a queen. Scarp! | ||
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Colouss
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Penev
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JoeCool
Germany2520 Posts
On August 03 2019 03:00 Colouss wrote: Reynor vs Gumi is so damn scrappy. Yeah I agree. Reynor althoug he's ahead doesn't look very good. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On August 03 2019 02:58 UnLarva wrote: @Attackzerg: Troll me. Better placement of a queen. Scarp! 8) I'm done. I promise. | ||
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Colouss
United States501 Posts
On August 03 2019 03:01 JoeCool wrote: Yeah I agree. Reynor althoug he's ahead doesn't look very good. Yeah he's taking uncomfortably long to close the game out. | ||
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Colouss
United States501 Posts
On August 03 2019 03:05 AttackZerg wrote: Are you guys watching the Cranktv stream? American Khaldor who casted GSL is streaming group D https://www.twitch.tv/creightonolsen | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On August 03 2019 03:10 Colouss wrote: American Khaldor who casted GSL is streaming group D https://www.twitch.tv/creightonolsen Thank you - Was watching in Russian. | ||
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Moonerz
United States446 Posts
On August 03 2019 03:14 Colouss wrote: The game 2 of Neeb vs Zest is looking pretty sloppy as well, what is this fiesta on both streams. Zest is definitely best in clown fiestas lol | ||
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United States501 Posts
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TheAnarchy
Chile1105 Posts
On August 03 2019 02:56 AttackZerg wrote: You missed the part of the scene were Ret was the clear best in the world. It happened after your ass claims the scene was dead. I watched EVERY war between ToT and PG. I have been here FOREVER. I was watching when Grrrr... first went to korea on broodwar.net and battlereports.com You aren't schooling me. And, you Sir, clearly do not know anything about which you speak. The mechanics of broodwar in 2006-2007 are a childs impression of what became in 09-11. You sound like someone claiming "The Coca Cola final between yellow and boxer was the best broodwar ever played". Nope. Just more old man nostalgia. Also, I played with both Ret and Testie. Many games. Your street cred is denied. It was after 2007 so it doesnt count. Achivement after 2008 doesnt count because bw was a dead game. An coca cola final and savior vs nada were the best finals ever period. Mechanics in 2006 were better then in 2009 | ||
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
Probably not. | ||
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
On August 03 2019 03:14 Colouss wrote: The game 2 of Neeb vs Zest is looking pretty sloppy as well, what is this fiesta on both streams. who's winning? | ||
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Ej_
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On August 03 2019 03:18 sudete wrote: Is this the longest death animation of all time? Probably not. No, Brood War has been around for 20 years. | ||
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Colouss
United States501 Posts
Zest's pulling the trigger, possibly the last fight. | ||
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Singapore3054 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On August 03 2019 03:16 TheAnarchy wrote: It was after 2007 so it doesnt count. Achivement after 2008 doesnt count because bw was a dead game. An coca cola final and savior vs nada were the best finals ever period. Mechanics in 2006 were better then in 2009 I get it. You say stupid things on the internet. Got it. Bye Felica. | ||
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blooblooblahblah
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stilt
France2749 Posts
He is good against serral for sure but surely not a threat to koreans. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On August 03 2019 03:23 Penev wrote: this LR thread has such an authentic bw vibe for some reason Could it be ... the old men yelling at the sky? | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 03 2019 03:24 blooblooblahblah wrote: Reynor's late game really is a serious achilles heel soO has had a pretty successful career without knowing what the lategame was. | ||
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TheAnarchy
Chile1105 Posts
On August 03 2019 03:21 AttackZerg wrote: I get it. You say stupid things on the internet. Got it. Bye Felica. Dont insult me. Are you 10? You ran out of arguments? | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On August 03 2019 03:25 Xain0n wrote: soO has had a pretty successful career without knowing what the lategame was. Lol yeah that's true. Life wasn't exactly the best lategame Zerg either | ||
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
On August 03 2019 03:26 HolydaKing wrote: O.o Gumigod beating Reynor.... kinda good for Heromarine I guess. Felt like Reynor should've had him there, too. Pretty good games. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
I mean, I can ... swarmhosts lose all the time ( and should) but ... he seemed to be in a bad spot and then walked across the map and liberator sieged the natural and main. That lose had to feel like whiplash. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On August 03 2019 03:27 yht9657 wrote: Not looking good for foreignland so far. Woot? Serral is looking strong, TIME is looking strong, Heromarine has decent chances to advance. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 03 2019 03:25 stilt wrote: Spaghetti boi who wants to counter mass libe range with hydra... He is good against serral for sure but surely not a threat to koreans. Reynor wants to train in Korea, that will surely help him in ZvT and ZvP. He is inconsistent against koreans, I am pretty sure he would beat any of them in ZvZ; also, do I need to mention he eliminated Classic from Code S last year? Also, Durn and this patch zerg nonsense... | ||
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Poopi
France12888 Posts
On August 03 2019 03:29 Xain0n wrote: Reynor wants to train in Korea, that will surely help him in ZvT and ZvP. He is inconsistent against koreans, I am pretty sure he would beat any of them in ZvZ; also, do I need to mention he eliminated Classic from Code S last year? Also, Durn and this patch zerg nonsense... I don’t think Reynor is as good as Serral in ZvZ against Koreans | ||
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On August 03 2019 03:30 Poopi wrote: I don’t think Reynor is as good as Serral in ZvZ against Koreans How would you know? The trend is europeans being stronger than their weight class in ZvZ with Serral being the best; Reynor can be on par with Serral, why would he magically be weaker against korean Zerg? | ||
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On August 03 2019 03:27 HolydaKing wrote: Woot? Serral is looking strong, TIME is looking strong, Heromarine has decent chances to advance. Serral is from Finland not foreignland; TIME beat the weakest Korean in ro16 and another foreigner to advance; as for HM guess we'll see. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On August 03 2019 03:31 Lollipop11 wrote: Feel like Reynor should just stop making swarm hosts or eventually sac them when it gets to the late game, he had a huge bank and couldn't do anything and sitting on like 20 swarm hosts being dead supply, and this always happens in his late game zv mech. Has anyone ever done Infestors+Nydus => infested terrans? Seems like in some situations it would achieve the same things without having a chunk of 40 supply stuck on SH. | ||
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Exehn
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On August 03 2019 03:34 AttackZerg wrote: Has anyone ever done Infestors+Nydus => infested terrans? Seems like in some situations it would achieve the same things without having a chunk of 40 supply stuck on SH. Swarm hosts are 3 supply, so it was 60 wasted supply. I'm not sure if that would work, you need the energy on the infestors, but if you manage to build like a lot it could work. | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On August 03 2019 03:27 HolydaKing wrote: Woot? Serral is looking strong, TIME is looking strong, Heromarine has decent chances to advance. There is a general consensus that Serral is a Korean wearing a foreigner mask. Time is well I guess a foreigner. Heromarine didn't advance yet but I think he will | ||
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47656 Posts
On August 03 2019 03:34 AttackZerg wrote: Has anyone ever done Infestors+Nydus => infested terrans? Seems like in some situations it would achieve the same things without having a chunk of 40 supply stuck on SH. ITs are only really good as anti air, and because of their hatch time and slow movement speed, they are much easier to avoid than locusts. | ||
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Penev
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On August 03 2019 03:37 MarianoSC2 wrote: There is a general consensus that Serral is a Korean wearing a foreigner mask. Time is well I guess a foreigner. Heromarine didn't advance yet but I think he will Time is "I guess" a foreigner? | ||
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47656 Posts
He isnt' white, is what he meant. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On August 03 2019 03:38 Ej_ wrote: ITs are only really good as anti air, and because of their hatch time and slow movement speed, they are much easier to avoid than locusts. Fair enough, was thinking with burrow, and fungal and neuro that they could be a much less committed multi-nydus harass unit. | ||
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Penev
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I know :/ | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
Or I could have meant he is not EU or AMER you latent racists | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
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Penev
28482 Posts
On August 03 2019 03:41 MarianoSC2 wrote: Or I could have meant he is not EU or AMER you latent racists nice try | ||
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UnLarva
458 Posts
Its just about a man in this game. Papa Serral will make it safe. And the whole scene. Finnish scene. Reserve., | ||
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DBooN
Germany2727 Posts
What are you doing? | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On August 03 2019 03:53 DBooN wrote: Gumiho What are you doing? Winning, but he almost got behind at some point. | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
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Penev
28482 Posts
On August 03 2019 03:55 sneakyfox wrote: It's fine to use players' nicknames every once in a while, but consistently calling Heromarine "Big Gabe" is really annoying. what about GIRTH? | ||
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On August 03 2019 03:56 AttackZerg wrote: Apparently, the player prefers to be called by that. That is what I read. I heard he prefers "Girth". | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On August 03 2019 03:41 MarianoSC2 wrote: Or I could have meant he is not EU or AMER you latent racists Is Probe a foreigner? What about Drager? | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
I think we can all agree that that would be a different case entirely. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25558 Posts
On August 03 2019 03:55 sneakyfox wrote: It's fine to use players' nicknames every once in a while, but consistently calling Heromarine "Big Gabe" is really annoying. To be pedantic isn’t every single SC player called by their nickname? | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On August 03 2019 04:01 Wombat_NI wrote: To be pedantic isn’t every single SC player called by their nickname? lol. gpoint. | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On August 03 2019 04:01 Wombat_NI wrote: To be pedantic isn’t every single SC player called by their nickname? Isn't every name really a nickname? | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On August 03 2019 04:01 Wombat_NI wrote: To be pedantic isn’t every single SC player called by their nickname? Certainly not soO | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
No. 0/10 would No again. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
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Penev
28482 Posts
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Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
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Latr02
United States268 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany6934 Posts
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Brutaxilos
United States2629 Posts
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DBooN
Germany2727 Posts
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TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
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yht9657
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
so happy to see him advance. one of my all time favs | ||
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Malinor
Germany4728 Posts
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DBooN
Germany2727 Posts
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Brutaxilos
United States2629 Posts
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Penev
28482 Posts
On August 03 2019 04:11 Schelim wrote: Gumigod <3 so happy to see him advance. one of my all time favs yeah I got a soft spot for him too. He's not necessarily the best but he's always fun to watch. | ||
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Elentos
55553 Posts
On August 03 2019 04:14 DBooN wrote: Jesus how do they make such a bad bracket?? Liquid bias | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
Really have no intention to participate in this discussion. My family and me live in a country where someone who is not white has it quite difficult. And its both the racists as well as the ones who see racism everywhere that are equally bad, just opposite side extremes who would do better to mind their own business... | ||
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rayl991
Afghanistan80 Posts
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JJH777
United States4408 Posts
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DBooN
Germany2727 Posts
On August 03 2019 04:15 JJH777 wrote: Wtf 2 PvPs and Serral vs Time in ro8. They can't even hide that they are blatantly rigging it. Rigging PvP matches so nobody watches their tournament. | ||
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Moonerz
United States446 Posts
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yht9657
1810 Posts
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Topin
Peru10081 Posts
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
Serral winning the whole thing is pretty much a given I think. | ||
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JJH777
United States4408 Posts
On August 03 2019 04:15 DBooN wrote: Rigging PvP matches so nobody watches their tournament. Rigging PvP to eliminate the best players with a chance of beating Serral. The organizers of this event obviously want Serral to win it and he probably would have still won it with a fair bracket but they aren't taking any chances. | ||
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CynicalDeath
Italy3426 Posts
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Elentos
55553 Posts
On August 03 2019 04:17 Musicus wrote: Well shit, TIME vs Serral and 2 PvPs, what a bad bracket. Serral winning the whole thing is pretty much a given I think. We'll see, he's still got a lot of good players ahead of him. Dear has been looking on form but (or maybe because of that?) the bracket gives him Zest. Shame. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On August 03 2019 04:18 JJH777 wrote: Rigging PvP to eliminate the best players with a chance of beating Serral. The organizers of this event obviously want Serral to win it and he probably would have still won it with a fair bracket but they aren't taking any chances. Haha, I can't even tell if your are trolling or not. | ||
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Elentos
55553 Posts
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Penev
28482 Posts
On August 03 2019 04:14 MarianoSC2 wrote: Really have no intention to participate in this discussion. My family and me live in a country where someone who is not white has it quite difficult. And its both the racists as well as the ones who see racism everywhere that are equally bad, just opposite side extremes who would do better to mind their own business... If you have no intention to participate than why reply at all? No one is saying you're a die hard racist but I advice you to answer Ej's question to yourself at least. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4728 Posts
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Latr02
United States268 Posts
(2432) TIME 0-0 Serral (2979) So you're sayin there's a chance | ||
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Kalera
United States338 Posts
On August 03 2019 04:21 Latr02 wrote: (2432) TIME 0-0 Serral (2979) So you're sayin there's a chance That's much better than I expected. Though in reality, I think a 0-3 is reasonably likely. | ||
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CynicalDeath
Italy3426 Posts
On August 03 2019 04:20 Elentos wrote: The Ro16 looked pretty rigged but this is even better honestly. they beat themselves | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
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JJH777
United States4408 Posts
On August 03 2019 04:18 Musicus wrote: Haha, I can't even tell if your are trolling or not. Honestly I'm not sure either. This happens every single time there are 2 foreigners in the top 8 of an event though and it's getting ridiculous. It can only be random draw so many times. They pretty much said when they announced the event that it only exists because of Serral so they definitely want him to win. It wouldn't surprise me if they "randomized" it an extra time when they saw that the first bracket had Serral on track to play hero/Stats/Dear back to back to back. As it is there's a good chance he only has to beat one of those 3 to win the tournament and they are his biggest threats. His next biggest threat would be gumiho who is also on the opposite side. Just some crazy coincidences here. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On August 03 2019 04:25 JJH777 wrote: Honestly I'm not sure either. This happens every single time there are 2 foreigners in the top 8 of an event though and it's getting ridiculous. It can only be random draw so many times. They pretty much said when they announced the event that it only exists because of Serral so they definitely want him to win. It wouldn't surprise me if they "randomized" it an extra time when they saw that the first bracket had Serral on track to play hero/Stats/Dear back to back to back. As it is there's a good chance he only has to beat one of those 3 to win the tournament and they are his biggest threats. His next biggest threat would be gumiho who is also on the opposite side. Just some crazy coincidences here. You know it's bad for the tournament to have 2 PvPs and the only foreigner besides Serrral 100% eliminated. If someone was gonna rig it, Serral would knock out a Korean, Time would get an easier opponent and less PvPs. Also Serral was always gonna play gumiho, Time or herO and not anther first place finisher like Dear or Stats. Stats in the semis is the hardest it could've gotten for Serral. | ||
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CynicalDeath
Italy3426 Posts
On August 03 2019 04:25 JJH777 wrote: Honestly I'm not sure either. This happens every single time there are 2 foreigners in the top 8 of an event though and it's getting ridiculous. It can only be random draw so many times. They pretty much said when they announced the event that it only exists because of Serral so they definitely want him to win. It wouldn't surprise me if they "randomized" it an extra time when they saw that the first bracket had Serral on track to play hero/Stats/Dear back to back to back. As it is there's a good chance he only has to beat one of those 3 to win the tournament and they are his biggest threats. His next biggest threat would be gumiho who is also on the opposite side. Just some crazy coincidences here. exactly this | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
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HolydaKing
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On August 03 2019 04:25 JJH777 wrote: Honestly I'm not sure either. This happens every single time there are 2 foreigners in the top 8 of an event though and it's getting ridiculous. It can only be random draw so many times. They pretty much said when they announced the event that it only exists because of Serral so they definitely want him to win. It wouldn't surprise me if they "randomized" it an extra time when they saw that the first bracket had Serral on track to play hero/Stats/Dear back to back to back. As it is there's a good chance he only has to beat one of those 3 to win the tournament and they are his biggest threats. His next biggest threat would be gumiho who is also on the opposite side. Just some crazy coincidences here. It LITERALLY never happened in the last 2 years | ||
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UnLarva
458 Posts
Apologies... "He himself The First One"... I'm simply blind. He played his games, they were not "rigged". | ||
Rhaegar_tar
France847 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 03 2019 04:30 HolydaKing wrote: Would have prefered Gumiho vs Serral and Solar vs TIME, otherwise nice to have the maximum amount of TvZ. I agree, Serral needed to play against Gumiho | ||
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DBooN
Germany2727 Posts
On August 03 2019 04:37 Nakajin wrote: It LITERALLY never happened in the last 2 years  2017 WCS Global Finals | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
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UnLarva
458 Posts
On August 03 2019 04:46 sneakyfox wrote: The funniest thing is that they could get a bunch of viewers for bracket draws at these events, it's always pretty exciting. Apparently bracket rigging is just too much fun for them Good handscript. "Serral goes to East". From the home. That said. Long run. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18035 Posts
On August 03 2019 04:51 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Bracket is rigged by koreans so only one foreigner can advance!!! WAKE UP SHEEPLE!! Koreans desperate for those WCS points. Oh. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On August 03 2019 04:56 Acrofales wrote: Koreans desperate for those WCS points. Oh. Desperate for the money | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
Well ok not literally, I only looked at the 2018-19 seasons, but in any cases it almost never happen or at least not more often than it's statisticaly probable. | ||
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Brutaxilos
United States2629 Posts
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UnLarva
458 Posts
There is no shame to lose Serral. You know it. NO FUCKING WAY YOU GIVE OUT ANYTHING FOR FREE! It is Serral of The Serraland, more time you give, more likely you lose. Red Commander TIME. 07 | ||
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argonautdice
Canada2719 Posts
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UnLarva
458 Posts
'Aika' in Finnish: GG Friends | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 03 2019 04:18 JJH777 wrote: Rigging PvP to eliminate the best players with a chance of beating Serral. The organizers of this event obviously want Serral to win it and he probably would have still won it with a fair bracket but they aren't taking any chances. Man, what the hell? Serral could draw herO, Gumiho or TIME; he got TIME and he's facing either Stats or herO next and a korean in the finals. Obscenely rigged, right... | ||
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UnLarva
458 Posts
Everything will go "OK". | ||
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
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JJH777
United States4408 Posts
On August 03 2019 05:54 Xain0n wrote: Man, what the hell? Serral could draw herO, Gumiho or TIME; he got TIME and he's facing either Stats or herO next and a korean in the finals. Obscenely rigged, right... I just see Time as a walkover and then I think Zest is going to PvP Dear out and get stomped by Solar which will result in a very underwhelming and one sided Serral vs Solar finals. I don't deny Serral is the favorite by far no matter how the bracket is laid out. But I feel like this takes his chances from 30-40% to like 60-70% because he will only have one challenging match. I'd love to be wrong though as Serral solar would be so uninteresting I won't even watch it. | ||
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UnLarva
458 Posts
On August 03 2019 06:21 brickrd wrote: "this is statistically impossible!" -a bunch of people with a layperson's understanding of statistics who have not run any actual numbers or looked up any data That's the point. Serral is insecure in Bo8 and we play tunes... lol The Home Ground. All SC2 Post-army Koreans can retire to Finland... It is not even a joke! We can ensure the best drone-pilots in the world. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25558 Posts
Also as an aside I felt Grant did a pretty good job today, wasn’t familiar with the guy but he was grand to me. Twitch chat didn’t appear to agree haha, in all my time following various things I don’t think any community I’m privy to is close to as harsh as ours is on casters/hosts. | ||
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 03 2019 06:01 UnLarva wrote: @Xainon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb_yAxFL93A Everything will go "OK". I liked it! I can't say I understood it, tho xd | ||
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Sorathez
Australia209 Posts
B1vC2 A1vD2 A2vD1 B2vC1 That's a totally normal way to do brackets like this. People from the same group on opposite sides, 1st places play 2nd places. | ||
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hunterqiji
12 Posts
On August 03 2019 05:54 Xain0n wrote: Man, what the hell? Serral could draw herO, Gumiho or TIME; he got TIME and he's facing either Stats or herO next and a korean in the finals. Obscenely rigged, right... I just see Time as a walkover and then I think Zest is going to PvP Dear out and get stomped by Solar which will result in a very underwhelming and one sided Serral vs Solar finals. I don't deny Serral is the favorite by far no matter how the bracket is laid out. But I feel like this takes his chances from 30-40% to like 60-70% because he will only have one challenging match. I'd love to be wrong though as Serral solar would be so uninteresting I won't even watch it. [/QUOTE] | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18035 Posts
On August 03 2019 08:51 Sorathez wrote: All these people talking about rigged brackets when it's just set up like this: B1vC2 A1vD2 A2vD1 B2vC1 That's a totally normal way to do brackets like this. People from the same group on opposite sides, 1st places play 2nd places. Don't try to befuddle us with your logic! It's RIGGED! RIGGED I tell you! /s | ||
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Poopi
France12888 Posts
Happy to see Reynor lose though. Serral is probably the favorite, except if Dear is secretly a PvZ monster. Stats is a threat for him though | ||
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wildman--
1 Post
On August 03 2019 04:40 Rhaegar_tar wrote: Serral is lucky I guess... not really serral will defeat everyone. | ||
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Koivusto
Finland542 Posts
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stilt
France2749 Posts
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