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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
July 03 2019 10:22 GMT
#61
On July 03 2019 19:21 Pandain wrote:
They're going crazy over every mine shot even when it only hits like 5 interceptors lolol.

The mine's are pretty good on average, but parting crushes special's compositions besides that

they forget to keep an eye on supply as per usual
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
July 03 2019 10:22 GMT
#62
I've seen this mass widow mine style on Supernova's stream a LOT.

The widow mines just buy you time while you tech to Battlecruisers. Without the tech to Battlecruisers this style doesn't work, nothing else has the meat or power to make the massive supply cost of the Widow Mines worth it. They cost 2 supply each, that adds up quick.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-03 10:24:26
July 03 2019 10:23 GMT
#63
Was special planning to win with cyclones and mines only against late game toss? I don't know if that usually works for him.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 03 2019 10:23 GMT
#64
On July 03 2019 19:22 Vindicare605 wrote:
I've seen this mass widow mine style on Supernova's stream a LOT.

The widow mines just buy you time while you tech to Battlecruisers. Without the tech to Battlecruisers this style doesn't work, nothing else has the meat or power to make the massive supply cost of the Widow Mines worth it. They cost 2 supply each, that adds up quick.

Yeah I was thinking the same, but SpeCial never even started banking up money. PartinG just disected him in the scrappy fights.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18160 Posts
July 03 2019 10:23 GMT
#65
Why does special hate vikings?
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
July 03 2019 10:25 GMT
#66
On July 03 2019 19:23 Acrofales wrote:
Why does special hate vikings?

require too much micro for his liking even without storm
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
July 03 2019 10:25 GMT
#67
On July 03 2019 19:22 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 19:21 Pandain wrote:
They're going crazy over every mine shot even when it only hits like 5 interceptors lolol.

The mine's are pretty good on average, but parting crushes special's compositions besides that

It takes more time to rebuild all interceptors on a carrier than to make a new carrier, so it's not that minor.

Protoss should be able to chronoboost carriers, so they build interceptors faster.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
July 03 2019 10:25 GMT
#68
On July 03 2019 19:23 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 19:22 Vindicare605 wrote:
I've seen this mass widow mine style on Supernova's stream a LOT.

The widow mines just buy you time while you tech to Battlecruisers. Without the tech to Battlecruisers this style doesn't work, nothing else has the meat or power to make the massive supply cost of the Widow Mines worth it. They cost 2 supply each, that adds up quick.

Yeah I was thinking the same, but SpeCial never even started banking up money. PartinG just disected him in the scrappy fights.


Supernova always turret spams with it too. I usually see him use it vs Tempest fleets but I see no reason why it wouldn't work just as well vs Carriers.

Special's problem was that he wasted all of that gas on Cyclones. Cyclones in that kind of scenario are nowhere near worth their gas cost.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 03 2019 10:26 GMT
#69
On July 03 2019 19:25 DBooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 19:22 Ej_ wrote:
On July 03 2019 19:21 Pandain wrote:
They're going crazy over every mine shot even when it only hits like 5 interceptors lolol.

The mine's are pretty good on average, but parting crushes special's compositions besides that

It takes more time to rebuild all interceptors on a carrier than to make a new carrier, so it's not that minor.

Protoss should be able to chronoboost carriers, so they build interceptors faster.

And then replace disruptors with reavers, so you can chrono those too!
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
fealx
Profile Joined September 2014
Germany376 Posts
July 03 2019 10:26 GMT
#70
On July 03 2019 19:25 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 19:23 Ej_ wrote:
On July 03 2019 19:22 Vindicare605 wrote:
I've seen this mass widow mine style on Supernova's stream a LOT.

The widow mines just buy you time while you tech to Battlecruisers. Without the tech to Battlecruisers this style doesn't work, nothing else has the meat or power to make the massive supply cost of the Widow Mines worth it. They cost 2 supply each, that adds up quick.

Yeah I was thinking the same, but SpeCial never even started banking up money. PartinG just disected him in the scrappy fights.


Supernova always turret spams with it too. I usually see him use it vs Tempest fleets but I see no reason why it wouldn't work just as well vs Carriers.

Special's problem was that he wasted all of that gas on Cyclones. Cyclones in that kind of scenario are nowhere near worth their gas cost.



yeah hellion harras would have probably done the same job too
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18160 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-03 10:28:47
July 03 2019 10:28 GMT
#71
On July 03 2019 19:26 fealx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 19:25 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 03 2019 19:23 Ej_ wrote:
On July 03 2019 19:22 Vindicare605 wrote:
I've seen this mass widow mine style on Supernova's stream a LOT.

The widow mines just buy you time while you tech to Battlecruisers. Without the tech to Battlecruisers this style doesn't work, nothing else has the meat or power to make the massive supply cost of the Widow Mines worth it. They cost 2 supply each, that adds up quick.

Yeah I was thinking the same, but SpeCial never even started banking up money. PartinG just disected him in the scrappy fights.


Supernova always turret spams with it too. I usually see him use it vs Tempest fleets but I see no reason why it wouldn't work just as well vs Carriers.

Special's problem was that he wasted all of that gas on Cyclones. Cyclones in that kind of scenario are nowhere near worth their gas cost.



yeah hellion harras would have probably done the same job too

Not sure. You kinda need the cyclones vs the stalkers and disruptors, don't you?
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
July 03 2019 10:31 GMT
#72
On July 03 2019 19:28 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 19:26 fealx wrote:
On July 03 2019 19:25 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 03 2019 19:23 Ej_ wrote:
On July 03 2019 19:22 Vindicare605 wrote:
I've seen this mass widow mine style on Supernova's stream a LOT.

The widow mines just buy you time while you tech to Battlecruisers. Without the tech to Battlecruisers this style doesn't work, nothing else has the meat or power to make the massive supply cost of the Widow Mines worth it. They cost 2 supply each, that adds up quick.

Yeah I was thinking the same, but SpeCial never even started banking up money. PartinG just disected him in the scrappy fights.


Supernova always turret spams with it too. I usually see him use it vs Tempest fleets but I see no reason why it wouldn't work just as well vs Carriers.

Special's problem was that he wasted all of that gas on Cyclones. Cyclones in that kind of scenario are nowhere near worth their gas cost.



yeah hellion harras would have probably done the same job too

Not sure. You kinda need the cyclones vs the stalkers and disruptors, don't you?

but the same goal is getting BCs tho
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
July 03 2019 10:32 GMT
#73
On July 03 2019 19:31 seemsgood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 19:28 Acrofales wrote:
On July 03 2019 19:26 fealx wrote:
On July 03 2019 19:25 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 03 2019 19:23 Ej_ wrote:
On July 03 2019 19:22 Vindicare605 wrote:
I've seen this mass widow mine style on Supernova's stream a LOT.

The widow mines just buy you time while you tech to Battlecruisers. Without the tech to Battlecruisers this style doesn't work, nothing else has the meat or power to make the massive supply cost of the Widow Mines worth it. They cost 2 supply each, that adds up quick.

Yeah I was thinking the same, but SpeCial never even started banking up money. PartinG just disected him in the scrappy fights.


Supernova always turret spams with it too. I usually see him use it vs Tempest fleets but I see no reason why it wouldn't work just as well vs Carriers.

Special's problem was that he wasted all of that gas on Cyclones. Cyclones in that kind of scenario are nowhere near worth their gas cost.



yeah hellion harras would have probably done the same job too

Not sure. You kinda need the cyclones vs the stalkers and disruptors, don't you?

but the same goal is getting BCs tho


BCs are the only thing that can break you OUT of that kind of defensive late game posture as far as I know. If you're making anything else you're just gonna defend until you die.

I suppose you COULD make a case for Ghost/Liberator/Viking but that gets wrecked so fast by storm if you aren't careful.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 03 2019 10:33 GMT
#74
Rogue must be really confident in ZvT, to speedling all-in vs aLive
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 03 2019 10:38 GMT
#75
Ling bane muta!
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18160 Posts
July 03 2019 10:38 GMT
#76
On July 03 2019 19:33 Ej_ wrote:
Rogue must be really confident in ZvT, to speedling all-in vs aLive

Or maybe he doesn't respect aLive and thought he'd just outright win there.

Why is an early pressure play a sign of low confidence?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-03 10:40:59
July 03 2019 10:40 GMT
#77
On July 03 2019 19:38 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 19:33 Ej_ wrote:
Rogue must be really confident in ZvT, to speedling all-in vs aLive

Or maybe he doesn't respect aLive and thought he'd just outright win there.

Why is an early pressure play a sign of low confidence?

Because why would you risk a BO disadvantage (or loss) if you can just play standard and beat someone straight up?
And why would you reveal an aggressive build vs a player who isn't a favorite? I'd save it for tougher matches.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 03 2019 10:42 GMT
#78
Sick baneling mine position.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 03 2019 10:43 GMT
#79
It was looking okayish for aLive and then he lost 15 workers to 4 banes lol
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
July 03 2019 10:43 GMT
#80
these humans are fucked
I Protoss winner, could it be?
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