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AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-27 23:35:05
June 27 2019 23:34 GMT
#241
On June 28 2019 08:24 RatzBarcode wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2019 07:03 SamirDuran wrote:
WoL pvp


Why did collossi wars become Immortal chargelot archon wars? the nerf to collossi was enough?

Pure Colossi took too long to produce vs Immortal (which were cheaper units and took less time to produce) and Zealots/Archon (which was cheaper and can be warped from HT)
Add the fact that zealots required no gas so there's more gas for HT's
Faker is the GOAT!
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-27 23:44:25
June 27 2019 23:37 GMT
#242
On June 28 2019 05:59 Ej_ wrote:
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On June 28 2019 05:29 Xain0n wrote:
On June 28 2019 04:28 Ej_ wrote:
Finally TLO can play someone worthy of his level


At this point I'm honestly surprised not to see you chanting "Serral is washed up". Serral clearly isn't worth of Serral's level.

sorry, i dont take joy in mocking players. Just their fanatics.



Wow, such admirable sense of justice! If only the premises weren't completely wrong…

You have been trying to mock me, a "fanatic", because I said I don't consider Ptitdrogo(2446 mmr in PvZ according to Aligulac, 6.8k mmr on ladder, a fourth place as best result in 2019 where he got eliminated by none other than Serral himself with a crushing 0-3) to be on par with Serral whose ZvP mmr on Aligulac is 3087, despite they played a single close series last week? Also, PtitDrogo is not a player who has ever caused problems to Serral, 9-1 in series and 21-6 in maps with the lone Drogo victory being a 2-1 in 2015. Seems like a lost cause to me, but nice try.
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5504 Posts
June 27 2019 23:37 GMT
#243
What was the final set score?
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
June 28 2019 00:50 GMT
#244
There needs to be an equivalent of Godwin's law when it comes to people talking about Serral in almost every thread (even seemingly unrelated ones) lol.
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5504 Posts
June 28 2019 00:56 GMT
#245
On June 28 2019 09:50 Anc13nt wrote:
There needs to be an equivalent of Godwin's law when it comes to people talking about Serral in almost every thread (even seemingly unrelated ones) lol.


The fantastic thing is that Serral can win as much as he wants and he will still bw the perpetual underdog due to not being Korean, in people's eyes.

That says a lot about how rich and stories the history of Starcraft as an esport is, after 20 years it is still deeply ingrained in us that Koreans are just supposed to win everything not some random kid from Finland
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
June 28 2019 01:08 GMT
#246
Did uThermal win DNS?
Betrayed, forgotten, abandoned.
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-28 03:34:22
June 28 2019 03:33 GMT
#247
On June 28 2019 09:56 thezanursic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2019 09:50 Anc13nt wrote:
There needs to be an equivalent of Godwin's law when it comes to people talking about Serral in almost every thread (even seemingly unrelated ones) lol.


The fantastic thing is that Serral can win as much as he wants and he will still bw the perpetual underdog due to not being Korean, in people's eyes.

That says a lot about how rich and stories the history of Starcraft as an esport is, after 20 years it is still deeply ingrained in us that Koreans are just supposed to win everything not some random kid from Finland


tbh I kind of saw Serral that way in 2018 (I had the feeling that he couldn't be that good because he was a foreigner player) when I was adjusting to the reality that he really was that good. I definitely don't feel that anymore though.
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
June 28 2019 04:08 GMT
#248
On June 28 2019 09:56 thezanursic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2019 09:50 Anc13nt wrote:
There needs to be an equivalent of Godwin's law when it comes to people talking about Serral in almost every thread (even seemingly unrelated ones) lol.


The fantastic thing is that Serral can win as much as he wants and he will still bw the perpetual underdog due to not being Korean, in people's eyes.

That says a lot about how rich and stories the history of Starcraft as an esport is, after 20 years it is still deeply ingrained in us that Koreans are just supposed to win everything not some random kid from Finland


in my experience, serral is rarely considered the underdog vs koreans (at least in weekenders)

the only thing ive seen is that Terran elitists (people who think Terran is the hardest race to play and that Terran players are gods) think that the Terran horseman would wipe the floor with Serral. Only innovation has proven himself against serral though (and he's also owned Maru and Stats in 2019 too, so he's just been playing at a very high level). Maru always comes up short before reaching serral and TY....lol

otherwise, I see people acknowledge serral as a favorite, or at least an equal. Most people were surprised when he lost to soo. People expect him to beat stats and classic. etc.
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