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Forgot to change the maps.
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Jesus sorry yeah i messed up, but Wax saved me :D
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HSC Day 1 = EonBlu waiting room.
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On June 27 2019 19:07 dysenterymd wrote:
HSC Day 1 = EonBlu waiting room.
In before a not so unlikely 0:7
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Most interesting matches for me in group A are Reynor/Lambor vs Creator/Solar. Also Clem is doing pretty well sometimes, maybe he's up for some surprises.
Group B obviously has Serral vs Stats, which is always nice. Like I said elsewhere I think Stats is gonna win that one in the group stage. Serral vs uThermal and uThermal vs Stats could also be quite nice. I also quite wonder how well TLO will do, I expect him to place better than RiSky and maybe SouLeer, but I wouldn't mind some surprises from some players.
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On June 27 2019 19:26 watchlulu wrote:In before a not so unlikely 0:7
Exactly, as well as a not so unlikely 0-14, exposing him to some incredible roasts on days 3 and 4.
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Clem is playing really well :O
Then one teamfight and he gets smashed XD
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That was a nasty surround
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Dayum solar.
Solar I think said he has the best ZvT in the world
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Young EU terran actually playing quite well. But don't think it will be long before he's overwhelmed by the swarm
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"Tank is shit"
- Solar, 2019
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On June 27 2019 20:45 sneakyfox wrote:
"Tank is shit"
- Solar, 2019
Keeping it real from the start.
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On June 27 2019 20:26 Pandain wrote:
Dayum solar.
Solar I think said he has the best ZvT in the world
That's a really big thonk moment
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On June 27 2019 20:34 sneakyfox wrote:
Young EU terran actually playing quite well. But don't think it will be long before he's overwhelmed by the swarm
You can tell how fast Clem is improving. I would not be surprised if by the end of this year or beginning or next year he's playing as well as reynor is.
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GJ Reynor for beating Creator. Must have felt bad for Creator with the archons being blocked, however I'm pretty sure it was lost anyway.
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HSC is the best tourney period. Where else you see group rivals just hanging out, obsing each other's games and cheering for each other. Oh and the commentator couch needs a special mention in the hall of fame.
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Solar killing his own units with biles all game long
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Solars zvz def looks not that strong i feel like.
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too much greed from solar
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Reynor too good vs 'washed-up' koreans
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What happened in G2? I missed it
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I feel like Creator had a really good chance of breaking Lambo before GS finished, but then he backed off and teched to blink.
Oh well, Starcraft is hard.
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Wow, since Lambo is also pretty good at ZvZ, I could see this group ending with Reynor and Lambo finishing in the first two spots.
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Ultras in ZvZ? Don't see that every day.
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On June 27 2019 22:50 sneakyfox wrote:
Ultras in ZvZ? Don't see that every day.
WHERE D !
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On June 27 2019 22:56 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2019 22:50 sneakyfox wrote:
Ultras in ZvZ? Don't see that every day. WHERE D !
Lambo v Reynor game 1 on Thunderbird. It's over. NarutO is broadcasting the series.
Spoiler: the Ultras won
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On June 27 2019 22:58 sneakyfox wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2019 22:56 Ej_ wrote:On June 27 2019 22:50 sneakyfox wrote:
Ultras in ZvZ? Don't see that every day. WHERE D ! Lambo v Reynor game 1 on Thunderbird. It's over. NarutO is broadcasting the series. Spoiler: the Ultras won
What was the build, mass zergling with muta or without? Straight into hive?
Or was Lambo rushing hive vs mutalisks of Reynor?
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I expected Clem to put on a better showing, he's pretty much already in do or die with still Reynor, Lambo and Creator in front of him
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On June 27 2019 23:04 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2019 22:58 sneakyfox wrote:On June 27 2019 22:56 Ej_ wrote:On June 27 2019 22:50 sneakyfox wrote:
Ultras in ZvZ? Don't see that every day. WHERE D ! Lambo v Reynor game 1 on Thunderbird. It's over. NarutO is broadcasting the series. Spoiler: the Ultras won What was the build, mass zergling with muta or without? Straight into hive? Or was Lambo rushing hive vs mutalisks of Reynor?
I only caught the end of the game. Lambo used nydus and then attacked with ultra/viper/mass queen. Reynor had ling-lurker. Don't think there were any spires, but not sure.
Lambo apparently went melee upgrades all the way.
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On June 27 2019 23:13 sneakyfox wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2019 23:04 Ej_ wrote:On June 27 2019 22:58 sneakyfox wrote:On June 27 2019 22:56 Ej_ wrote:On June 27 2019 22:50 sneakyfox wrote:
Ultras in ZvZ? Don't see that every day. WHERE D ! Lambo v Reynor game 1 on Thunderbird. It's over. NarutO is broadcasting the series. Spoiler: the Ultras won What was the build, mass zergling with muta or without? Straight into hive? Or was Lambo rushing hive vs mutalisks of Reynor? I only caught the end of the game. Lambo used nydus and then attacked with ultra/viper/mass queen. Reynor had ling-lurker. Don't think there were any spires, but not sure. Lambo apparently went melee upgrades all the way.
Ok thanks.
hahahaha Clem actually won a game vs Creator
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When Creator plays bad, he really looks like the worst pro gamer in the world for some reason
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On June 27 2019 23:15 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2019 23:13 sneakyfox wrote:On June 27 2019 23:04 Ej_ wrote:On June 27 2019 22:58 sneakyfox wrote:On June 27 2019 22:56 Ej_ wrote:On June 27 2019 22:50 sneakyfox wrote:
Ultras in ZvZ? Don't see that every day. WHERE D ! Lambo v Reynor game 1 on Thunderbird. It's over. NarutO is broadcasting the series. Spoiler: the Ultras won What was the build, mass zergling with muta or without? Straight into hive? Or was Lambo rushing hive vs mutalisks of Reynor? I only caught the end of the game. Lambo used nydus and then attacked with ultra/viper/mass queen. Reynor had ling-lurker. Don't think there were any spires, but not sure. Lambo apparently went melee upgrades all the way. Ok thanks. hahahaha Clem actually won a game vs Creator
It's good to know that there are some new guys comming up for Creator to choke against
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On June 27 2019 23:17 blooblooblahblah wrote:
When Creator plays bad, he really looks like the worst pro gamer in the world for some reason
This game is some proper idiotball
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Clem's TvP looks like the good old HotS Dream. No finesse like Maru, just mass mass mongo drops everywhere and forcing Protoss to trip over their keyboard at some point. And it's working!
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Was beginning to fear for Creator there. Had he lost a game on Cyber Forest to a EU terran he might have been paraded through Seoul like Cersei Lannister when he got home
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On June 27 2019 23:24 Ej_ wrote:
Clem's TvP looks like the good old HotS Dream. No finesse like Maru, just mass mass mongo drops everywhere and forcing Protoss to trip over their keyboard at some point. And it's working!
Lol have you seen Bomber vs Super from the other day?
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On June 27 2019 23:27 blooblooblahblah wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2019 23:24 Ej_ wrote:
Clem's TvP looks like the good old HotS Dream. No finesse like Maru, just mass mass mongo drops everywhere and forcing Protoss to trip over their keyboard at some point. And it's working! Lol have you seen Bomber vs Super from the other day?
I didn't watch any of GSL qualifiers 
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This game is an actual fucking circus.
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I mean PvT is just unplayable when the terran does the 24-kill banshee build
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On June 27 2019 20:55 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2019 20:34 sneakyfox wrote:
Young EU terran actually playing quite well. But don't think it will be long before he's overwhelmed by the swarm You can tell how fast Clem is improving. I would not be surprised if by the end of this year or beginning or next year he's playing as well as reynor is.
Yeah he has a lot of potential for sure, but actually reaching Reynor's level that fast? I dunno, going 0-4 in this group so far says that he is missing a lot still.
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I love those konglish interviews, that was so fun
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On June 27 2019 23:29 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2019 23:27 blooblooblahblah wrote:On June 27 2019 23:24 Ej_ wrote:
Clem's TvP looks like the good old HotS Dream. No finesse like Maru, just mass mass mongo drops everywhere and forcing Protoss to trip over their keyboard at some point. And it's working! Lol have you seen Bomber vs Super from the other day? I didn't watch any of GSL qualifiers
It was one of the Afreeca show matches. Bomber literally still plays like it is WoL and it's hilarious.
Clem vs Creator was such a train wreck lol. Creator honestly played really bad in every game, but Clem made massive stuff ups in game 2 and 3 too. I know Creator "is" good but he really struggles to show it in most of his games.
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Lambo going 8-0 in maps today, wow
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On June 27 2019 23:46 sneakyfox wrote:
Lambo going 8-0 in maps today, wow
I just want it to look like he's gonna 14-0 but then he stumbles at the last second.
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Poor clem having all his games shown when he's 0-4
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On June 27 2019 23:49 Elentos wrote:I just want it to look like he's gonna 14-0 but then he stumbles at the last second.
He goes 14-0 and then we find out he actually lost to inzane 1-2
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On June 27 2019 23:50 Pandain wrote:
Poor clem having all his games shown when he's 0-4
He's gonna beat Inzane and that's gonna be the only match of his not on main 
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On June 27 2019 23:49 Elentos wrote:I just want it to look like he's gonna 14-0 but then he stumbles at the last second.
And then he's going to say that he can totally beat Serral
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Solar v Creator on stream 2
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On June 27 2019 23:55 sneakyfox wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2019 23:49 Elentos wrote:On June 27 2019 23:46 sneakyfox wrote:
Lambo going 8-0 in maps today, wow I just want it to look like he's gonna 14-0 but then he stumbles at the last second. And then he's going to say that he can totally beat Serral
Remember that time where he almost 2-0'd Maru
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On June 27 2019 23:56 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2019 23:55 sneakyfox wrote:On June 27 2019 23:49 Elentos wrote:On June 27 2019 23:46 sneakyfox wrote:
Lambo going 8-0 in maps today, wow I just want it to look like he's gonna 14-0 but then he stumbles at the last second. And then he's going to say that he can totally beat Serral Remember that time where he almost 2-0'd Maru
It was so close
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On June 27 2019 23:58 sneakyfox wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2019 23:56 Elentos wrote:On June 27 2019 23:55 sneakyfox wrote:On June 27 2019 23:49 Elentos wrote:On June 27 2019 23:46 sneakyfox wrote:
Lambo going 8-0 in maps today, wow I just want it to look like he's gonna 14-0 but then he stumbles at the last second. And then he's going to say that he can totally beat Serral Remember that time where he almost 2-0'd Maru It was so close
Only 2 games away!
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Lambo's Dota 2 practice paying off
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This Clem vs Lambo game is proper jetlagged.
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Lambo's ZvT is honestly awful compared to his other 2 matchups.
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I'm surprised they're already starting B on the main stream. And even more surprised this match is the very first one in group B.
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Starcraft reddit was crying about the low level of the competition but we basically have the blizzcon finals in the group stage.
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On June 28 2019 00:55 Elentos wrote:
I'm surprised they're already starting B on the main stream. And even more surprised this match is the very first one in group B.
Well since group A started at 13.00 and still isn't finished one can assume that a group takes at least 6 hours. Then they kinda have to start it now I guess.
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Ok so the main stream is waiting for Stats v Serral but why aren't any of the other streams showing games?
Harstem - Creator on B-stream now
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wow Snute 2-1 Reynor. snute's ZvZ is still godlike.
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On June 28 2019 01:17 vult wrote:
wow Snute 2-1 Reynor. snute's ZvZ is still godlike.
And Reynor just 2-0'd Solar. That's a sick result from someone who is retired!
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Snuute has always been ridiculously good. He'd have racked up a lot of titles like Serral and Neeb if he had region locking.
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On June 28 2019 01:18 sneakyfox wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 01:17 vult wrote:
wow Snute 2-1 Reynor. snute's ZvZ is still godlike. And Reynor just 2-0'd Solar. That's a sick result from someone who is retired!
And Solar's gonna beat Snute, just wait for it.
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Nickname haters totally called out.
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On June 28 2019 01:24 Morbidius wrote:
Snuute has always been ridiculously good. He'd have racked up a lot of titles like Serral and Neeb if he had region locking.
As good as Snute was, he was a korean slayer in one matchup only. He never reached the level of domination those two achieved and he didn't seem to completely dominate foreign scene.
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Serral EZ
Also good morning everyone, I slept way in, what did I miss?
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You can tell Serral hasn't played a good P for a while
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harstem 2-0 vs creator???? thats insane
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On June 28 2019 01:42 Nakajin wrote:
Serral ain't no Dark
Fortunately for Serral!
Serral hasn't faced Protoss worth of his level this year except for Neeb(who beat him).
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On June 28 2019 01:45 Psychonian wrote:
harstem 2-0 vs creator???? thats insane
No, creator actually suck
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On June 28 2019 01:46 sudete wrote:
Creator out already? Wow
Denied by the European Zerg cavalry
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On June 28 2019 01:46 Xain0n wrote:Fortunately for Serral! Serral hasn't faced Protoss worth of his level this year except for Neeb(who beat him).
shame that PtitDrogo wasn't worth Serral's level and only won 2 games out of 5 :/
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Drogo's commentary is very very good. I wish i could understand Korean to hear TY commentating Terran games.
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On June 28 2019 01:50 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 01:46 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 01:42 Nakajin wrote:
Serral ain't no Dark Fortunately for Serral! Serral hasn't faced Protoss worth of his level this year except for Neeb(who beat him). shame that PtitDrogo wasn't worth Serral's level and only won 2 games out of 5 :/
Drogo is no Stats.
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On June 28 2019 01:51 Morbidius wrote:
Drogo's commentary is very very good. I wish i could understand Korean to hear TY commentating Terran games.
It's refreshing to have someone who doesn't shout Nydus every time the Zerg starts a lair
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On June 28 2019 01:50 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 01:46 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 01:42 Nakajin wrote:
Serral ain't no Dark Fortunately for Serral! Serral hasn't faced Protoss worth of his level this year except for Neeb(who beat him). shame that PtitDrogo wasn't worth Serral's level and only won 2 games out of 5 :/
Do you think Drogo is at Serral's level? I hope you don't.
Serral struggling against him is a clear indication he is vulnerable in PvZ at the moment.
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On June 28 2019 01:53 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 01:50 Ej_ wrote:On June 28 2019 01:46 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 01:42 Nakajin wrote:
Serral ain't no Dark Fortunately for Serral! Serral hasn't faced Protoss worth of his level this year except for Neeb(who beat him). shame that PtitDrogo wasn't worth Serral's level and only won 2 games out of 5 :/ Do you think Drogo is at Serral's level? I hope you don't. Serral struggling against him is a clear indication he is vulnerable in PvZ at the moment.
I think you are the level of people that you have close series against. Maybe that's just my delusion tho.
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''You can't max on Stalkers.''
These guys clearly haven't watched PvZ in 2015.
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stalkers > swarmhosts
who knew?
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those patience-like blinks
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Even when Serral loses his games are so entertaining!
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On June 28 2019 02:00 Morbidius wrote:
''You can't max on Stalkers.''
These guys clearly haven't watched PvZ in 2015.
People don't believe me when I talk about the legendary 40 stalker 8 sentry +2 10 gate all in
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GG Stats, still the best PvZ easily. Serral started weak at WCS challenger too, which is why I also predicted this. I think he'll beat him in the later stages though if it happens again.
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On June 28 2019 02:01 sudete wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 02:00 Morbidius wrote:
''You can't max on Stalkers.''
These guys clearly haven't watched PvZ in 2015. People don't believe me when I talk about the legendary 40 stalker 8 sentry +2 10 gate all in
designated pressure, ok?
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Pretty irrelevent match given these two will be #1 and #2 in the group anyway. I'd give the edge to Serral if they meet in the playoffs.
On another note, is Serral now 1-4 in matches against top 10 koreans this year?
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Neeb did it first
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On June 28 2019 02:02 sneakyfox wrote:
Stats English 10/10
He's sooooooooooooooo slow when he has to speak English.
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All questions are about Serral lol
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On June 28 2019 01:56 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 01:53 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 01:50 Ej_ wrote:On June 28 2019 01:46 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 01:42 Nakajin wrote:
Serral ain't no Dark Fortunately for Serral! Serral hasn't faced Protoss worth of his level this year except for Neeb(who beat him). shame that PtitDrogo wasn't worth Serral's level and only won 2 games out of 5 :/ Do you think Drogo is at Serral's level? I hope you don't. Serral struggling against him is a clear indication he is vulnerable in PvZ at the moment. I think you are the level of people that you have close series against. Maybe that's just my delusion tho.
So I guess TaeJa was right at Serral's level at the end of 2018, brilliant.
In a game as volatile as Sc2, having a close series against someone isn't really indicative of overall level.
Consistency and results are.
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On June 28 2019 02:04 Elentos wrote:He's sooooooooooooooo slow when he has to speak English.
Hopefully they put him on the couch with Solar and TY at some point, that might get him to talk more. Also hopefully they will be tipsy
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On June 28 2019 02:06 sneakyfox wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 02:04 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2019 02:02 sneakyfox wrote:
Stats English 10/10 He's sooooooooooooooo slow when he has to speak English. Hopefully they put him on the couch with Solar and TY at some point, that might get him to talk more. Also hopefully they will be tipsy
According to Noregret Stats is just really, really slow. Sometimes takes a minute to answer an easy question with yes or no.
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"I didn't come to HSC to win, I came to get drunk"
- Stats, 2019 (after 2-0'ing Serral)
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On June 28 2019 02:04 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 01:56 Ej_ wrote:On June 28 2019 01:53 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 01:50 Ej_ wrote:On June 28 2019 01:46 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 01:42 Nakajin wrote:
Serral ain't no Dark Fortunately for Serral! Serral hasn't faced Protoss worth of his level this year except for Neeb(who beat him). shame that PtitDrogo wasn't worth Serral's level and only won 2 games out of 5 :/ Do you think Drogo is at Serral's level? I hope you don't. Serral struggling against him is a clear indication he is vulnerable in PvZ at the moment. I think you are the level of people that you have close series against. Maybe that's just my delusion tho. So I guess TaeJa was right at Serral's level at the end of 2018, brilliant. In a game as volatile as Sc2, having a close series against someone isn't really indicative of overall level. Consistency and results are.
Okay
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On June 28 2019 02:07 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 02:06 sneakyfox wrote:On June 28 2019 02:04 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2019 02:02 sneakyfox wrote:
Stats English 10/10 He's sooooooooooooooo slow when he has to speak English. Hopefully they put him on the couch with Solar and TY at some point, that might get him to talk more. Also hopefully they will be tipsy According to Noregret Stats is just really, really slow. Sometimes takes a minute to answer an easy question with yes or no.
He's like a starcraft Ent
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On June 28 2019 02:04 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 01:56 Ej_ wrote:On June 28 2019 01:53 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 01:50 Ej_ wrote:On June 28 2019 01:46 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 01:42 Nakajin wrote:
Serral ain't no Dark Fortunately for Serral! Serral hasn't faced Protoss worth of his level this year except for Neeb(who beat him). shame that PtitDrogo wasn't worth Serral's level and only won 2 games out of 5 :/ Do you think Drogo is at Serral's level? I hope you don't. Serral struggling against him is a clear indication he is vulnerable in PvZ at the moment. I think you are the level of people that you have close series against. Maybe that's just my delusion tho. So I guess TaeJa was right at Serral's level at the end of 2018, brilliant.
They were in that specific series, at least in TvZ.
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On June 28 2019 02:07 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 02:04 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 01:56 Ej_ wrote:On June 28 2019 01:53 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 01:50 Ej_ wrote:On June 28 2019 01:46 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 01:42 Nakajin wrote:
Serral ain't no Dark Fortunately for Serral! Serral hasn't faced Protoss worth of his level this year except for Neeb(who beat him). shame that PtitDrogo wasn't worth Serral's level and only won 2 games out of 5 :/ Do you think Drogo is at Serral's level? I hope you don't. Serral struggling against him is a clear indication he is vulnerable in PvZ at the moment. I think you are the level of people that you have close series against. Maybe that's just my delusion tho. So I guess TaeJa was right at Serral's level at the end of 2018, brilliant. In a game as volatile as Sc2, having a close series against someone isn't really indicative of overall level. Consistency and results are. Okay
don't be so mature
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On June 28 2019 02:10 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 02:04 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 01:56 Ej_ wrote:On June 28 2019 01:53 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 01:50 Ej_ wrote:On June 28 2019 01:46 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 01:42 Nakajin wrote:
Serral ain't no Dark Fortunately for Serral! Serral hasn't faced Protoss worth of his level this year except for Neeb(who beat him). shame that PtitDrogo wasn't worth Serral's level and only won 2 games out of 5 :/ Do you think Drogo is at Serral's level? I hope you don't. Serral struggling against him is a clear indication he is vulnerable in PvZ at the moment. I think you are the level of people that you have close series against. Maybe that's just my delusion tho. So I guess TaeJa was right at Serral's level at the end of 2018, brilliant. They were in that specific series, at least in TvZ.
Ok, let's go on and say Meomaika is clearly a better player than Maru in TvZ(or least he must be close to) because he beat him 2-0.
You are at the same level of people who consistently play close series against you, not just a single one.
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On June 28 2019 02:13 GoloSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 02:07 Ej_ wrote:On June 28 2019 02:04 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 01:56 Ej_ wrote:On June 28 2019 01:53 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 01:50 Ej_ wrote:On June 28 2019 01:46 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 01:42 Nakajin wrote:
Serral ain't no Dark Fortunately for Serral! Serral hasn't faced Protoss worth of his level this year except for Neeb(who beat him). shame that PtitDrogo wasn't worth Serral's level and only won 2 games out of 5 :/ Do you think Drogo is at Serral's level? I hope you don't. Serral struggling against him is a clear indication he is vulnerable in PvZ at the moment. I think you are the level of people that you have close series against. Maybe that's just my delusion tho. So I guess TaeJa was right at Serral's level at the end of 2018, brilliant. In a game as volatile as Sc2, having a close series against someone isn't really indicative of overall level. Consistency and results are. Okay don't be so mature
I can't afford too much snark, I'm on my last last last last leg when it comes to moderation history.
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Serral contemplating his life
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oh mr NASL sounds guy, what would we ever do without you?
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On June 28 2019 02:20 Need wrote:
Serral contemplating his life
Contemplating what it's going to be like to be 0-4 after facing Stats and getting proxied twice by uThermal.
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What are the odds on Serral going gas first next game?
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Is Serral getting out of the group?
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On a related note, how did souleer take a map off uthermy?
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I don't understand why Serral didn't build a spine or two to defend against that reaper opening--why try to do it with just Queen/Ling?
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On June 28 2019 02:32 sudete wrote:
On a related note, how did souleer take a map off uthermy?
he probably took an extractor before seeing first 2 reapers
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On June 28 2019 02:33 Duckman wrote:
I don't understand why Serral didn't build a spine or two to defend against that reaper opening--why try to do it with just Queen/Ling?
He had a spine. In his natural. It killed 1 reaper maybe.
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Why is uThermal building a barracks in his own base?
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In this situation what should give solace to Serral is the fact that the rest of the group he could beat with a broken arm.
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Serral is definitely playing below his standard.
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On June 28 2019 02:40 Morbidius wrote:
Serral is definitely playing below his standard.
Is Serral worthy of Serral's level?
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On June 28 2019 02:40 Morbidius wrote:
Serral is definitely playing below his standard.
Yea, and he's also playing his worst matchup as well as a top Protoss for the first time since November.
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On June 28 2019 02:42 sneakyfox wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 02:40 Morbidius wrote:
Serral is definitely playing below his standard. Yea, and he's also playing his worst matchup as well as a top Protoss for the first time since November.
he also lost to Neeb, who has one of the best PvZ's across Korea and Foreignerland
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On June 28 2019 02:43 AzAlexZ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 02:42 sneakyfox wrote:On June 28 2019 02:40 Morbidius wrote:
Serral is definitely playing below his standard. Yea, and he's also playing his worst matchup as well as a top Protoss for the first time since November. he also lost to Neeb, who has one of the best PvZ's across Korea and Foreignerland
He did? When was that?
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On June 28 2019 02:46 sneakyfox wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 02:43 AzAlexZ wrote:On June 28 2019 02:42 sneakyfox wrote:On June 28 2019 02:40 Morbidius wrote:
Serral is definitely playing below his standard. Yea, and he's also playing his worst matchup as well as a top Protoss for the first time since November. he also lost to Neeb, who has one of the best PvZ's across Korea and Foreignerland He did? When was that?
WESG groups. So a while ago.
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The only reason Serral is playing this bad is because of the heatwave. Finns aren't used to temperatures above 15°c. 
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Why is this barracks in his base?!
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> really bad map for Terran
> uThermal
> rax at home
Doesn't make any sense.
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2-1-1 against serral... lol
ecksdee stepping up his game
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On June 28 2019 02:54 sudete wrote:
2-1-1 against serral... lol
It's the build that ended Serral's offline win streak I'll have you know.
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On June 28 2019 02:55 Elentos wrote:It's the build that ended Serral's offline win streak I'll have you know.
but not with this follow-up....
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211 is truly a top meme build
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On June 28 2019 02:57 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 02:55 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2019 02:54 sudete wrote:
2-1-1 against serral... lol It's the build that ended Serral's offline win streak I'll have you know. but not with this follow-up....
No this was how Gumiho eliminated Dark from GSL last year because Dark was supply blocked at 98 making 6 overlords.
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On June 28 2019 02:59 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 02:57 Charoisaur wrote:On June 28 2019 02:55 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2019 02:54 sudete wrote:
2-1-1 against serral... lol It's the build that ended Serral's offline win streak I'll have you know. but not with this follow-up.... No this was how Gumiho eliminated Dark from GSL last year because Dark was supply blocked at 98 making 6 overlords.
The GuMiho 211 has reactored hellbats
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On June 28 2019 03:00 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 02:59 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2019 02:57 Charoisaur wrote:On June 28 2019 02:55 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2019 02:54 sudete wrote:
2-1-1 against serral... lol It's the build that ended Serral's offline win streak I'll have you know. but not with this follow-up.... No this was how Gumiho eliminated Dark from GSL last year because Dark was supply blocked at 98 making 6 overlords. The GuMiho 211 has reactored hellbats
That's why uThermal didn't win clearly
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Serral is getting way better at interviews
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Retired Snute goes 4-3 in matches but is eliminated anyway. I'm not sure how to feel.
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Solar, Lambo, Reynor, Harstem advance from Group A
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On June 28 2019 02:47 Ej_ wrote:
THORA THORA THORA
A reference so obscure people don't know what you're on about 
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RiSky 0-2 TLO
Risky 1-2 uThermal
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On June 28 2019 03:17 NarutO wrote:
RiSky 0-2 TLO
Risky 1-2 uThermal
Top SEA player taking a game of uthermy? Impressive
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Souleer won 2-1 vs Risky :O
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Reynor beats solar then goes on to die to the rest of the zerg wtf
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a lot of downtime on the mainstream sadly, there are so many games going on at the same time
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This has been a nice cast so far
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I actually thought Risky might be able to do something with his nydus initially. But then Stats rekt him in 3 bases at the same time.
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On June 28 2019 03:21 SamirDuran wrote:
Reynor beats solar then goes on to die to the rest of the zerg wtf
European players know he's going to mass zerglings :D1
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I look at these games, think "Stats isn't in a great spot here honestly" and it takes Stats approximately 30 seconds to just fuck his opponents up entirely from there.
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On June 28 2019 03:23 Tsubbi wrote:
a lot of downtime on the mainstream sadly, there are so many games going on at the same time
Also the music during downtime is unbearable
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On June 28 2019 04:10 Need wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 03:23 Tsubbi wrote:
a lot of downtime on the mainstream sadly, there are so many games going on at the same time Also the music during downtime is unbearable
Where did all the HSC meme music go? They used to always play true classics during these breaks.
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On June 28 2019 02:14 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 02:10 Fango wrote:On June 28 2019 02:04 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 01:56 Ej_ wrote:On June 28 2019 01:53 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 01:50 Ej_ wrote:On June 28 2019 01:46 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 01:42 Nakajin wrote:
Serral ain't no Dark Fortunately for Serral! Serral hasn't faced Protoss worth of his level this year except for Neeb(who beat him). shame that PtitDrogo wasn't worth Serral's level and only won 2 games out of 5 :/ Do you think Drogo is at Serral's level? I hope you don't. Serral struggling against him is a clear indication he is vulnerable in PvZ at the moment. I think you are the level of people that you have close series against. Maybe that's just my delusion tho. So I guess TaeJa was right at Serral's level at the end of 2018, brilliant. They were in that specific series, at least in TvZ. Ok, let's go on and say Meomaika is clearly a better player than Maru in TvZ(or least he must be close to) because he beat him 2-0. You are at the same level of people who consistently play close series against you, not just a single one.
Taeja was winning/being consistent against Serral in macro games, in a bo5. He played extremely well, and Serral looked to be struggling against that style of terran (which he probably wasn't used to). Meomaika won in a short bo3 with meme builds that he prepared specifically to snipe Maru with.
You don't get (as much) credit for winning with build order wins. If Meo and Maru played as well as they did for 20 games, Maru probably wins the next 17. If Taeja and Serral played as well as they did for 20 more games, it would probably be pretty close. (Although if that happened practically Serral would end up dominating as he would likely improve his ZvT).
I'm usually one of the first people on here to discredit Taeja's wins, but in that series him and Serral absolutely played at a close level. Taeja was on fire and Serral's ZvT wasn't as mapped out as his other two matchups.
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Main stream: WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP
B-stream: Footloose
I know where the music went.
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On June 28 2019 04:17 Ej_ wrote:
Stats has a nice hat.
No it's a Nike hat.
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Stats not messing around. Definitely heavy tournament favorite so far.
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This looks like a HotS Parting game.
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NA hope TLO up a game on the world champion
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Finally TLO can play someone worthy of his level
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send units in the third base uthermal
it's free real estate
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Very nice control by uThermal that game. I still think Stats will win game 3 but uThermal is looking good today.
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That went from promising to totally dead in 2 seconds
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TL-throw? Those 4 ultras were painful
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This is way too close of a call for Serral against TLO. TLO has him in terms of strategy. Serral is trying to power through with better execution.
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On June 28 2019 04:13 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 02:14 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 02:10 Fango wrote:On June 28 2019 02:04 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 01:56 Ej_ wrote:On June 28 2019 01:53 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 01:50 Ej_ wrote:On June 28 2019 01:46 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 01:42 Nakajin wrote:
Serral ain't no Dark Fortunately for Serral! Serral hasn't faced Protoss worth of his level this year except for Neeb(who beat him). shame that PtitDrogo wasn't worth Serral's level and only won 2 games out of 5 :/ Do you think Drogo is at Serral's level? I hope you don't. Serral struggling against him is a clear indication he is vulnerable in PvZ at the moment. I think you are the level of people that you have close series against. Maybe that's just my delusion tho. So I guess TaeJa was right at Serral's level at the end of 2018, brilliant. They were in that specific series, at least in TvZ. Ok, let's go on and say Meomaika is clearly a better player than Maru in TvZ(or least he must be close to) because he beat him 2-0. You are at the same level of people who consistently play close series against you, not just a single one. Taeja was winning/being consistent against Serral in macro games, in a bo5. He played extremely well, and Serral looked to be struggling against that style of terran (which he probably wasn't used to). Meomaika won in a short bo3 with meme builds that he prepared specifically to snipe Maru with. You don't get (as much) credit for winning with build order wins. If Meo and Maru played as well as they did for 20 games, Maru probably wins the next 17. If Taeja and Serral played as well as they did for 20 more games, it would probably be pretty close. (Although if that happened practically Serral would end up dominating as he would likely improve his ZvT). I'm usually one of the first people on here to discredit Taeja's wins, but in that series him and Serral absolutely played at a close level. Taeja was on fire and Serral's ZvT wasn't as mapped out as his other two matchups.
Every Zerg was struggling against Terran in that tournament and TaeJa "consistently" won two games in which Serral insisted to go for pre-buff Ultras; I guess Serral wouldn't have proceeded to sweep Bunny and win the finals against Inno if he were at TaeJa's level(coincidentally, he preferred GGlords).
It's hard to assess anything properly if you take single series in consideration, Solar beat TaeJa and Inno beat Solar convincingly, how could Serral struggle against TaeJa by this logic?
TaeJa played a great series against Serral and he was in a deceivingly good shape, but definitely not at the same level Serral was.
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You can tell Serral isn't at his best by the fact he was chasing lings with corruptors and killed his own overlord in the process.
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The last march of the ents did not work out this time.
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damn that could have been 2-0 for TLO with one less mistake
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Why was he marching 10 spore crawlers off creep tho
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On June 28 2019 05:01 sudete wrote:
Why was he marching 10 spore crawlers off creep tho
He wanted to push. For some reason.
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Literally all the good music is on B-stream I dunno what is going on.
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Well it was obvious, TLO's only chance to win the game was to completely crush Serrals army in one big fight, so he HAD to try to walk the spores to Serrals Base.
TLO had the worse air army and the worse ground army and Serral was already on his way to hive tech
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Spores and spines should be able to go in and out of nyduses tbh
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On June 28 2019 05:08 Durnuu wrote:
Spores and spines should be able to go in and out of nyduses tbh
Spines should have blink to make up for the fact that their burrow time is slower than making a mothership.
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On June 28 2019 05:08 Durnuu wrote:
Spores and spines should be able to go in and out of nyduses tbh
Ehm... no? They are buildings, not units. Otherwise one could say that flying Terran buildings should fit into Medivacs :D
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uThermal vs TLO, EU vs NA hype
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On June 28 2019 05:10 watchlulu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 05:08 Durnuu wrote:
Spores and spines should be able to go in and out of nyduses tbh Ehm... no? They are buildings, not units. Otherwise one could say that flying Terran buildings should fit into Medivacs :D
r/ whoooooosh
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On June 28 2019 04:28 Ej_ wrote:
Finally TLO can play someone worthy of his level
At this point I'm honestly surprised not to see you chanting "Serral is washed up". Serral clearly isn't worth of Serral's level.
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On June 28 2019 05:29 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 04:28 Ej_ wrote:
Finally TLO can play someone worthy of his level At this point I'm honestly surprised not to see you chanting "Serral is washed up". Serral clearly isn't worth of Serral's level.
You should see our shitposter discord
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On June 28 2019 05:33 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 05:29 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 04:28 Ej_ wrote:
Finally TLO can play someone worthy of his level At this point I'm honestly surprised not to see you chanting "Serral is washed up". Serral clearly isn't worth of Serral's level. You should see our shitposter discord
I don't think he should.
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On June 28 2019 05:34 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 05:33 Luolis wrote:On June 28 2019 05:29 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 04:28 Ej_ wrote:
Finally TLO can play someone worthy of his level At this point I'm honestly surprised not to see you chanting "Serral is washed up". Serral clearly isn't worth of Serral's level. You should see our shitposter discord I don't think he should.
true. It could break him
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I like how hard Reynor is trying to provide insightful input but Lambo knows everything inside out lol
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On June 28 2019 05:34 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 05:33 Luolis wrote:On June 28 2019 05:29 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 04:28 Ej_ wrote:
Finally TLO can play someone worthy of his level At this point I'm honestly surprised not to see you chanting "Serral is washed up". Serral clearly isn't worth of Serral's level. You should see our shitposter discord I don't think he should.
Well, I doubt I'd understand anything if it is written in finnish anyway.
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On June 28 2019 05:36 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 05:34 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2019 05:33 Luolis wrote:On June 28 2019 05:29 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 04:28 Ej_ wrote:
Finally TLO can play someone worthy of his level At this point I'm honestly surprised not to see you chanting "Serral is washed up". Serral clearly isn't worth of Serral's level. You should see our shitposter discord I don't think he should. Well, I doubt I'd understand anything if it is written in finnish anyway.
None of us understand any of Luolis' Finnish rants but we live with them.
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On June 28 2019 05:39 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 05:36 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 05:34 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2019 05:33 Luolis wrote:On June 28 2019 05:29 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 04:28 Ej_ wrote:
Finally TLO can play someone worthy of his level At this point I'm honestly surprised not to see you chanting "Serral is washed up". Serral clearly isn't worth of Serral's level. You should see our shitposter discord I don't think he should. Well, I doubt I'd understand anything if it is written in finnish anyway. None of us understand any of Luolis' Finnish rants but we live with them.
Viper didn't.
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On June 28 2019 05:39 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 05:39 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2019 05:36 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 05:34 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2019 05:33 Luolis wrote:On June 28 2019 05:29 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 04:28 Ej_ wrote:
Finally TLO can play someone worthy of his level At this point I'm honestly surprised not to see you chanting "Serral is washed up". Serral clearly isn't worth of Serral's level. You should see our shitposter discord I don't think he should. Well, I doubt I'd understand anything if it is written in finnish anyway. None of us understand any of Luolis' Finnish rants but we live with them. Viper didn't.
Too soon
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poor TLO
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On June 28 2019 05:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:poor TLO
TLO's play today is best described as "close but no cigar"
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On June 28 2019 05:54 sneakyfox wrote:
Tell me more
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On June 28 2019 05:29 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 04:28 Ej_ wrote:
Finally TLO can play someone worthy of his level At this point I'm honestly surprised not to see you chanting "Serral is washed up". Serral clearly isn't worth of Serral's level.
sorry, i dont take joy in mocking players. Just their fanatics.
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On June 28 2019 05:55 Elentos wrote:Tell me more
lol yes, I saw a shocking result on liquipedia and commented on it, and then realized it was just me
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On June 28 2019 05:59 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 05:29 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 04:28 Ej_ wrote:
Finally TLO can play someone worthy of his level At this point I'm honestly surprised not to see you chanting "Serral is washed up". Serral clearly isn't worth of Serral's level. sorry, i dont take joy in mocking players. Just their fanatics.
What, is someone having a hard time coming to terms with the fact that Serral was always just a patchzerg?
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A-stream: DUDUDUDU
B-stream: A, B, C! Easy as 1,2,3!
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Guess TLO can still make it then
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On June 28 2019 06:29 sneakyfox wrote:
Guess TLO can still make it then
He's gonna take down Stats ezpz.
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On June 28 2019 06:31 Elentos wrote:He's gonna take down Stats ezpz.
Ouch, he still has Stats. The match list on liquipedia is pretty confusing today.
On the other hand, there are only results for two of SortOf's games, so he could be in it too. Who knows
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Thanks. So DnS is safe as long as he beats SouLeeR in his final match. Not bad by the replacement player.
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Stats looks like he's about to fall asleep
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Double robo colossus lmfao
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Damn I've been missing Stats playing so much. Then he just re-appears and crushes his group with all sorts of new stuff. So handsome
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Proxy nexus? Let's gooooo
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Stats looks like he's falling asleep but he's still memeing the foreigner
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proxy blink into ninja natural
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Stats is fucking drunk btw
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It might not be the Year of Stats but it sure is Year of Drunk Stats
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On June 28 2019 07:12 Ej_ wrote:
Stats is fucking drunk btw
That... makes this game make a lot more sense.
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On June 28 2019 07:10 sneakyfox wrote:
Stats looks like he's falling asleep but he's still memeing the foreigner
that means dude s sleeping while playing against foreigners in this tournament
but when it comes to real shit like gsl ?? i need this man to open his eyes asap
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On June 28 2019 07:16 seemsgood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 07:10 sneakyfox wrote:
Stats looks like he's falling asleep but he's still memeing the foreigner that means dude s sleeping while playing against foreigners in this tournament but when it comes to real shit like gsl ?? i need this man to open his eyes asap
Don't worry he's going to crush it in season 3, been saving up all year
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YESSSS STATS COMMENTARY ON THE COUCH POGGERS
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We need TY to join him on the couch in celebration to his new casting career
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On June 28 2019 07:28 Akio wrote:We need TY to join him on the couch in celebration to his new casting career
And Solar, it's going to be sick city
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On June 28 2019 07:29 sneakyfox wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 07:28 Akio wrote:We need TY to join him on the couch in celebration to his new casting career And Solar, it's going to be sick city
TRUE. The HSC Korean casts are golden honestly
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Risky pulling another risky trademark result
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Did they finish group B? Looks unfinished on Liquipedia.
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On June 28 2019 07:03 SamirDuran wrote:
WoL pvp
Why did collossi wars become Immortal chargelot archon wars? the nerf to collossi was enough?
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On June 28 2019 08:24 RatzBarcode wrote:Why did collossi wars become Immortal chargelot archon wars? the nerf to collossi was enough?
Pure Colossi took too long to produce vs Immortal (which were cheaper units and took less time to produce) and Zealots/Archon (which was cheaper and can be warped from HT)
Add the fact that zealots required no gas so there's more gas for HT's
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On June 28 2019 05:59 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 05:29 Xain0n wrote:On June 28 2019 04:28 Ej_ wrote:
Finally TLO can play someone worthy of his level At this point I'm honestly surprised not to see you chanting "Serral is washed up". Serral clearly isn't worth of Serral's level. sorry, i dont take joy in mocking players. Just their fanatics.
Wow, such admirable sense of justice! If only the premises weren't completely wrong…
You have been trying to mock me, a "fanatic", because I said I don't consider Ptitdrogo(2446 mmr in PvZ according to Aligulac, 6.8k mmr on ladder, a fourth place as best result in 2019 where he got eliminated by none other than Serral himself with a crushing 0-3) to be on par with Serral whose ZvP mmr on Aligulac is 3087, despite they played a single close series last week? Also, PtitDrogo is not a player who has ever caused problems to Serral, 9-1 in series and 21-6 in maps with the lone Drogo victory being a 2-1 in 2015. Seems like a lost cause to me, but nice try.
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What was the final set score?
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There needs to be an equivalent of Godwin's law when it comes to people talking about Serral in almost every thread (even seemingly unrelated ones) lol.
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On June 28 2019 09:50 Anc13nt wrote:
There needs to be an equivalent of Godwin's law when it comes to people talking about Serral in almost every thread (even seemingly unrelated ones) lol.
The fantastic thing is that Serral can win as much as he wants and he will still bw the perpetual underdog due to not being Korean, in people's eyes.
That says a lot about how rich and stories the history of Starcraft as an esport is, after 20 years it is still deeply ingrained in us that Koreans are just supposed to win everything not some random kid from Finland
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On June 28 2019 09:56 thezanursic wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 09:50 Anc13nt wrote:
There needs to be an equivalent of Godwin's law when it comes to people talking about Serral in almost every thread (even seemingly unrelated ones) lol. The fantastic thing is that Serral can win as much as he wants and he will still bw the perpetual underdog due to not being Korean, in people's eyes. That says a lot about how rich and stories the history of Starcraft as an esport is, after 20 years it is still deeply ingrained in us that Koreans are just supposed to win everything not some random kid from Finland
tbh I kind of saw Serral that way in 2018 (I had the feeling that he couldn't be that good because he was a foreigner player) when I was adjusting to the reality that he really was that good. I definitely don't feel that anymore though.
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On June 28 2019 09:56 thezanursic wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2019 09:50 Anc13nt wrote:
There needs to be an equivalent of Godwin's law when it comes to people talking about Serral in almost every thread (even seemingly unrelated ones) lol. The fantastic thing is that Serral can win as much as he wants and he will still bw the perpetual underdog due to not being Korean, in people's eyes. That says a lot about how rich and stories the history of Starcraft as an esport is, after 20 years it is still deeply ingrained in us that Koreans are just supposed to win everything not some random kid from Finland
in my experience, serral is rarely considered the underdog vs koreans (at least in weekenders)
the only thing ive seen is that Terran elitists (people who think Terran is the hardest race to play and that Terran players are gods) think that the Terran horseman would wipe the floor with Serral. Only innovation has proven himself against serral though (and he's also owned Maru and Stats in 2019 too, so he's just been playing at a very high level). Maru always comes up short before reaching serral and TY....lol
otherwise, I see people acknowledge serral as a favorite, or at least an equal. Most people were surprised when he lost to soo. People expect him to beat stats and classic. etc.
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