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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Poll: Hurricane vs PartinG PartinG Wins (17) Hurricane Wins (11) 28 total votes Your vote: Hurricane vs PartinG | ||
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Myrddrael
United Kingdom291 Posts
 Hurricane 3 - 2 PartinG Dark 3 - 0 HerOWrong herO I know but I can't be bothered finding the right one | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17723 Posts
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
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Conut
Canada1026 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
PartinG 3-0 HurricaneherO[jOin] 3-2 DarkAll Protoss semi-finals please XD | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
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Topin
Peru10100 Posts
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37057 Posts
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Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On June 08 2019 13:07 Seeker wrote: Whoa... Tastosis not casting? They're casting KSL finals later. NoRegret needs to stop calling the game ending ever 30 seconds. Yes Parting is behind, but it's PvP | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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Topin
Peru10100 Posts
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On June 08 2019 13:14 pdd wrote: They're casting KSL finals later. NoRegret needs to stop calling the game ending ever 30 seconds. Yes Parting is behind, but it's PvP highest xkill era needs highest casting skill | ||
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
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Topin
Peru10100 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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Topin
Peru10100 Posts
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Die4Ever
United States17723 Posts
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
especially game 2. there was no reason for him to charge into hurricane's natural | ||
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On June 08 2019 13:26 Topin wrote: what happened to Hurricane probes? he didnt made more than 22? and he won regardless....what a shitty game | ||
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Ben...
Canada3485 Posts
On June 08 2019 13:26 Topin wrote: Double oracles kept the numbers down and then he lost the ones at the natural when Parting attacked.what happened to Hurricane probes? he didnt made more than 22? That was a horrid game from Parting. Engaging in the slow fields like that was not a good call. | ||
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
On June 08 2019 13:14 pdd wrote: They're casting KSL finals later. NoRegret needs to stop calling the game ending ever 30 seconds. Yes Parting is behind, but it's PvP KSL could be what saves the night, but its PvP. | ||
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
On June 08 2019 13:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote: SCII doesn't have much defensive advantage, but Hurricane and PartinG still seem to not give it enough respect, pushing straight into shield batteries and through slow zones. I feel like Parting has way too much confidence in his micro to make up that differential. | ||
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37057 Posts
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On June 08 2019 13:28 liberate71 wrote: I feel like Parting has way too much confidence in his micro to make up that differential. but he needs blink tho | ||
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Ben...
Canada3485 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
User was warned for this post. | ||
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Tayar
United States1439 Posts
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
On June 08 2019 13:35 Tayar wrote: protoss build proxy in pvp because they are trying to hide information, it's not rocket surgery Sentry buffs made scouting too easy, made the risk of proxy irrelevant compared to the hidden information. | ||
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On June 08 2019 13:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote: TvT was pretty proxy heavy for a while, PvP is now, can't wait for ZvZ proxy mirrors. sc2 is way too build order heavy i feel like the moar people get gud at this game the moar hideous builds would come out | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On June 08 2019 13:40 BerserkSword wrote: parting threw this series by just blindly attacking into hurricanes positions dude really underestimates ping pong s power | ||
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Tayar
United States1439 Posts
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Topin
Peru10100 Posts
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
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yoshi245
United States2972 Posts
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
letssss 3-0 this toss darkkk | ||
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
On June 08 2019 13:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote: The dream of Hurricane winning this GSL off only PvP is still alive. Idk, Patience got in such good positions against Classic and he still could't break him. I can see the same happening to Hurricane. | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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Topin
Peru10100 Posts
On June 08 2019 14:01 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Dark is pretty strong in Ro8s. I don't like herO's chances. same here but i just want herO to win cause the drama of 4p in semis xD | ||
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
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Liquid`Snute
Norway839 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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BirdBird
34 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Topin
Peru10100 Posts
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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Durnuu
13322 Posts
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
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fastr
France902 Posts
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37057 Posts
Double 3-0 incoming? | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17723 Posts
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
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Meeii
155 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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BirdBird
34 Posts
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On June 08 2019 14:25 Seeker wrote: lol... Double 3-0 incoming? its parting s turn to console herO after getting 3-0d lul | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On June 08 2019 14:26 IshinShishi wrote: Dark won two games with less or equal amount of workers, he figured out that protoss players dont shift gears, its always "oh its x time, I attack now no matter what Pepega" hero ignored the linchpin of 2 base timings in PvZ....walling off the sim city | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On June 08 2019 14:26 IshinShishi wrote: Dark won two games with less or equal amount of workers, he figured out that protoss players dont shift gears, its always "oh its x time, I attack now no matter what Pepega" Yeah but what Dark did isn't even good against two base all-ins. And going for three or four oracles was a thing for a while though not recently. I think Zest played that a lot? | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8306 Posts
Dark = Zerg Primal Zerg = Dinosaurs Raptors = Primal Zerg Dark = Raptors This bodes well... | ||
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On June 08 2019 14:32 TheDougler wrote: I've got this series figured out I think. Dark = Zerg Primal Zerg = Dinosaurs Raptors = Primal Zerg Dark = Raptors This bodes well... Welp Durant didn't show up for herO. | ||
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yoshi245
United States2972 Posts
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
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BirdBird
34 Posts
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
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Meeii
155 Posts
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Noa Greenini
265 Posts
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
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sertman
United States540 Posts
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
On June 08 2019 14:29 BerserkSword wrote: hero ignored the linchpin of 2 base timings in PvZ....walling off the sim city Even 2012 guides to wonwonwon wrote it clearly:when 6 sentries and 2 immortals leave the base wall off with a pylon/ | ||
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On June 08 2019 14:36 Noa Greenini wrote: I mean I wanted Dark to win... But damn. save your wish for ro4 | ||
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Moonerz
United States459 Posts
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Psychonian
United States2322 Posts
like, the trap inno series was very entertaining but the other 3 series were just an allin fest and either it worked or it didn't | ||
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Snakestyle11
191 Posts
And the night is over, just like that. | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
On June 08 2019 14:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Yeah but what Dark did isn't even good against two base all-ins. And going for three or four oracles was a thing for a while though not recently. I think Zest played that a lot? Dark's macro looked really bad, but I think it was intentional, he cut drones to get more queens and surprise snipe the warp prism, though im not sure about that because I play T | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On June 08 2019 14:37 Morbidius wrote: Even 2012 guides to wonwonwon wrote it clearly:when 6 sentries and 2 immortals leave the base wall off with a pylon/ forreal my mind is blown right now. didnt expect that from hero at all | ||
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
On June 08 2019 14:38 Psychonian wrote: this is honestly in terms of quality of the games the worst gsl ro8 i've ever seen like, the trap inno series was very entertaining but the other 3 series were just an allin fest and either it worked or it didn't This is the worst GSL in years. I actually don't even know where we went wrong. This dissapointment was usually saved for finals and Serral vs Maru series, now it comes every friday night. | ||
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Psychonian
United States2322 Posts
On June 08 2019 14:41 Morbidius wrote: This is the worst GSL in years. I actually don't even know where we went wrong. This dissapointment was usually saved for finals and Serral vs Maru series, now it comes every friday night. yeah, i’m not gonna balance whine or anything, but i am gonna say that if this kind of meta keeps up blizzard needs to do something purely for the sake of making the game fun, both to watch and to play because right now it’s just garbage | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3123 Posts
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On June 08 2019 14:40 IshinShishi wrote: Dark's macro looked really bad, but I think it was intentional, he cut drones to get more queens and surprise snipe the warp prism, though im not sure about that because I play T because he knew herO is gonna 2 base him anyway but protoss does have another timing by getting storm and archon for another strong all in i think herO was too impatient for his plan today | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On June 08 2019 14:40 IshinShishi wrote: Dark's macro looked really bad, but I think it was intentional, he cut drones to get more queens and surprise snipe the warp prism, though im not sure about that because I play T Yeah, but he cut drones really early. He either was anticipating something earlier than the regular two base all-ins or more likely wanted to apply some pressure himself, but it still seemed a bit odd. | ||
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
On June 08 2019 14:44 Mun_Su wrote: I've rarely see such an unapealing ro4 I hope Classic kills them all. The worst thing is there are plenty of bad Blizzard news floating around. This is the worst time for the game to look bad and unappealing. | ||
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Ben...
Canada3485 Posts
On June 08 2019 14:43 Psychonian wrote: yeah, i’m not gonna balance whine or anything, but i am gonna say that if this kind of meta keeps up blizzard needs to do something purely for the sake of making the game fun, both to watch and to play because right now it’s just garbage It's been like GSL seasons 1-3 level in terms of sheer number of all-ins. It was interesting at first, but yeah, it's getting pretty boring. 2/3 non-mirror matchups are now based around 2 base all-ins. | ||
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LennX
4563 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
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Akio
Finland1838 Posts
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Akio
Finland1838 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany16021 Posts
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stilt
France2754 Posts
+ the games are not greats. | ||
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium4033 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On June 08 2019 14:48 Morbidius wrote: I hope Classic kills them all. The worst thing is there are plenty of bad Blizzard news floating around. This is the worst time for the game to look bad and unappealing. Relax man, you must really hate Protoss for your posts to be impregnated of lowkey toxicity towards the game. I'm glad Dark advanced to ruin the 4/4 senselessness, but Hurricane is actually strong in PvZ and could win without relying on PartinG playing terribly; Trap vs Dark would be, by far, the most interesting final. | ||
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Proko
United States1022 Posts
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Syfiass
France89 Posts
It was interesting to see dark going fast third and stopping around 40 drones. Better than the classic "I'm at 66 drones at 5:30 and now I can die with no unit" , Did Dark scout something that tells "2 base all-in" or did he just knew it was comming? | ||
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Proko
United States1022 Posts
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Penev
28512 Posts
hopefully the final 3 matches contain at least 1 actual series | ||
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mpmaley86
115 Posts
Can someone photoshop to get 'dark' and 'protoss' on this: ![[image loading]](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a9/db/c9/a9dbc905f4b455ee577f863e161b7f99.jpg) | ||
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Macrobe
United Kingdom87 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7465 Posts
After getting abused by toss on the ladder for 10 days (new to the game) getting to see him put down that push that always kills me was inspiring. I am a bad player (diamond 3) so it feels good that someone can beat a P, even if it isn't me. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
Dark’s builds and drone/unit timing choices were straight up baffling to me first two games. Playing stupidly all-in and taking a calculated gamble, or going ‘eco cheese’ on the same basis, sure, it’s Starcraft, it’s mindgames etc. Of his own choosing he seemed to do the worst of all worlds, not aggressive enough to do anything, cutting too much eco to actually hold certain pushes. Perhaps he’s mindgaming herO’s tendencies and they have practiced together and know each other very well, it seemed to me that he relied way way too much on herO letting lings through walls, or moving out and getting surrounded, just didn’t feel solid at all. I feel it’s good for the tournament that it’s not all PvP for sure, but I hope Dark brings something a bit better next round. | ||
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On June 09 2019 06:53 Wombat_NI wrote: Dark vs herO, god some of those games. Dark’s builds and drone/unit timing choices were straight up baffling to me first two games. Playing stupidly all-in and taking a calculated gamble, or going ‘eco cheese’ on the same basis, sure, it’s Starcraft, it’s mindgames etc. Of his own choosing he seemed to do the worst of all worlds, not aggressive enough to do anything, cutting too much eco to actually hold certain pushes. Perhaps he’s mindgaming herO’s tendencies and they have practiced together and know each other very well, it seemed to me that he relied way way too much on herO letting lings through walls, or moving out and getting surrounded, just didn’t feel solid at all. I feel it’s good for the tournament that it’s not all PvP for sure, but I hope Dark brings something a bit better next round. i felt like maybe dark was onto something with the big commitment to units. it can't be a mistake. maybe he played on ladder and found it was more consistent to skip the drones that would die to adepts anyway and make something happen with runbys. it's entirely possible that in this meta it's a valid way to play zerg, kind of like how TvP is based on units and aggression right now. once in a while a pro shows the world that what we think we know about a matchup has shifted. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On June 09 2019 08:59 brickrd wrote: i felt like maybe dark was onto something with the big commitment to units. it can't be a mistake. maybe he played on ladder and found it was more consistent to skip the drones that would die to adepts anyway and make something happen with runbys. it's entirely possible that in this meta it's a valid way to play zerg, kind of like how TvP is based on units and aggression right now TvP is a bit different though, a ton of bio on your doorstep is different from a bunch of lings. You can’t just turtle behind your wall That’s sort of what I meant by the worst of halfway houses, he cuts too much eco to be safe against certain things, but doesn’t commit enough to aggression to be aggressive. Perhaps I’m missing something, these guys know what they’re doing. soO made it through the Ro16 with some really calculated hardcore allins. Sure that’s risky in a sense, but I get his game plan there. I’ll maybe rewatch them properly, games 1 and 2 it felt to me he had a bunch of units floating around too early, but not in sufficient number to really be properly aggressive with confidence. ‘I hope herO decides to push out to do a push he doesn’t have to do and I get a surround in open ground’ does not sound a stable plan to me. Weird games for sure, definitely worth a detailed rewatch | ||
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TanksALot
United States153 Posts
On June 08 2019 14:37 IshinShishi wrote: Noregret 1x9 carrying rapid today, props. Truth. Some of rapids casting is just embarrassing. | ||
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renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
On June 09 2019 09:10 Wombat_NI wrote: TvP is a bit different though, a ton of bio on your doorstep is different from a bunch of lings. You can’t just turtle behind your wall That’s sort of what I meant by the worst of halfway houses, he cuts too much eco to be safe against certain things, but doesn’t commit enough to aggression to be aggressive. Perhaps I’m missing something, these guys know what they’re doing. soO made it through the Ro16 with some really calculated hardcore allins. Sure that’s risky in a sense, but I get his game plan there. I’ll maybe rewatch them properly, games 1 and 2 it felt to me he had a bunch of units floating around too early, but not in sufficient number to really be properly aggressive with confidence. ‘I hope herO decides to push out to do a push he doesn’t have to do and I get a surround in open ground’ does not sound a stable plan to me. Weird games for sure, definitely worth a detailed rewatch Honestly, I kinda feel like the games were so bad that they’re leading to a false sense of analysis that’s just going to lead to more conclusions that don’t actually fix the matchup. Both players just seemed completely out of it. | ||
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