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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51456 Posts
Poll: Hurricane vs PartinGPartinG Wins (17) 61% Hurricane Wins (11) 39% 28 total votes Your vote: Hurricane vs PartinG (Vote): Hurricane Wins (Vote): PartinG Wins
Poll: herO vs DarkDark Wins (21) 75% herO Wins (7) 25% 28 total votes Your vote: herO vs Dark (Vote): herO Wins (Vote): Dark Wins
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Dark, please save us from a PvP fest!
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If parting dark win I will be so happy, they are my two favourite players of their respective race, good games pleaseeeee
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United States97276 Posts
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aint nothing like booze and gsl starcraft
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Hurricane must stop Parting somehow
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What happened to Tastosis?
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36957 Posts
Whoa... Tastosis not casting?
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woah parting got outmicroed so hard
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On June 08 2019 13:07 Seeker wrote: Whoa... Tastosis not casting? They're casting KSL finals later.
NoRegret needs to stop calling the game ending ever 30 seconds. Yes Parting is behind, but it's PvP
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The bigger engagements weren't perfect but Hurricane looked really sharp overall.
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solid first game by Hurricane. lets go!!!!!!!!!!
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On June 08 2019 13:14 pdd wrote:They're casting KSL finals later. NoRegret needs to stop calling the game ending ever 30 seconds. Yes Parting is behind, but it's PvP highest xkill era needs highest casting skill
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Protoss is so fucking hilarious to watch compared to the other two mirror match ups, I'm not even mad.
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what happened to Hurricane probes? he didnt made more than 22?
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SCII doesn't have much defensive advantage, but Hurricane and PartinG still seem to not give it enough respect, pushing straight into shield batteries and through slow zones.
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couldn't Parting walk back to his shield batteries?
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That was a pretty fun PvP, considering.
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parting's decision making so bad in game 1 and 2
especially game 2. there was no reason for him to charge into hurricane's natural
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On June 08 2019 13:26 Topin wrote: what happened to Hurricane probes? he didnt made more than 22? and he won regardless....what a shitty game
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On June 08 2019 13:26 Topin wrote: what happened to Hurricane probes? he didnt made more than 22? Double oracles kept the numbers down and then he lost the ones at the natural when Parting attacked.
That was a horrid game from Parting. Engaging in the slow fields like that was not a good call.
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On June 08 2019 13:14 pdd wrote:They're casting KSL finals later. NoRegret needs to stop calling the game ending ever 30 seconds. Yes Parting is behind, but it's PvP KSL could be what saves the night, but its PvP.
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On June 08 2019 13:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote: SCII doesn't have much defensive advantage, but Hurricane and PartinG still seem to not give it enough respect, pushing straight into shield batteries and through slow zones.
I feel like Parting has way too much confidence in his micro to make up that differential.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36957 Posts
Holy crap... This PvP is packed with action...
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On June 08 2019 13:28 liberate71 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2019 13:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote: SCII doesn't have much defensive advantage, but Hurricane and PartinG still seem to not give it enough respect, pushing straight into shield batteries and through slow zones. I feel like Parting has way too much confidence in his micro to make up that differential. but he needs blink tho
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This could end up being a quick GSL broadcast if we get a 3-0 PvP and a bunch of immortal all-ins in the PvZ.
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TvT was pretty proxy heavy for a while, PvP is now, can't wait for ZvZ proxy mirrors.
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Parting and Hurricane have one thing in common with NoRegret: They're not really good Protoss players.
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protoss build proxy in pvp because they are trying to hide information, it's not rocket surgery
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On June 08 2019 13:35 Tayar wrote: protoss build proxy in pvp because they are trying to hide information, it's not rocket surgery Sentry buffs made scouting too easy, made the risk of proxy irrelevant compared to the hidden information.
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On June 08 2019 13:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote: TvT was pretty proxy heavy for a while, PvP is now, can't wait for ZvZ proxy mirrors. sc2 is way too build order heavy i feel like the moar people get gud at this game the moar hideous builds would come out
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Parting is playing so badly
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lol wtf was that warp prism placement
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parting threw this series by just recklessly attacking into hurricanes positions
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My personal dream is that one or both of these players take a 4th base and stabilise.
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Hurricane kicked Neeb out of GSL qualifiers when fanboys were saying he was the best toss in the world, and now is kicking the creator of the WONWONWON out of GSL. He is a blessed player.
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On June 08 2019 13:40 BerserkSword wrote: parting threw this series by just blindly attacking into hurricanes positions dude really underestimates ping pong s power
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the dream is dead for another season. QQ
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get out Parting!
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Parting lost because you no donate and subscribe
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The dream of Hurricane winning this GSL off only PvP is still alive.
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Wish i had a herO behind me to cheer me up after i lose.
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Haha, well done Hurricane. Hurricane get a 3-0 revenge on Parting must feel so good for him.
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classic herO coming to console his kin with an assassin SMILE letssss 3-0 this toss darkkk
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On June 08 2019 13:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote: The dream of Hurricane winning this GSL off only PvP is still alive. Idk, Patience got in such good positions against Classic and he still could't break him. I can see the same happening to Hurricane.
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It was harsh, parting looked like he didnt belong here
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Dark is pretty strong in Ro8s. I don't like herO's chances.
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On June 08 2019 14:01 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Dark is pretty strong in Ro8s. I don't like herO's chances. same here but i just want herO to win cause the drama of 4p in semis xD
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finally something new coming from robotic facility
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Norway839 Posts
most wtf game i've seen in a long time x)
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I'm all for dark winning this but a game being lost because of a mismicro prism and for the equivalent of a supply depot being down kills the hype
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if herO wins, this season ends there.
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anybody know why hero isnt keeping his wall closed off?
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I'm not loving Dark's openings. Even in game 1 Dark essentially cut worker production early without provocation.
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That was almost the biggest misplay. I'm surprised it didn't end right there
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Hero is taking one for the team to avoid nerfs.
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Hey Dark has 4 drones on his third, let me a-move in the middle of the map *gets 360 surrounded*
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36957 Posts
lol...
Double 3-0 incoming?
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is Dark playing like this just cause it's herO, or is this how he's playing ZvP in general right now?
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Yeah we have seen mistakes but that was a real wtf momement.
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That was pretty awful. I only imagine that the next round will need to be even worse for Dark to drop out in the Ro4 as usual.
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Dark won two games with less or equal amount of workers, he figured out that protoss players dont shift gears, its always "oh its x time, I attack now no matter what Pepega"
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going to make a wild call; herO going to go stargate heavy this game and lose his stargate units for no raisins
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On June 08 2019 14:25 Seeker wrote: lol...
Double 3-0 incoming? its parting s turn to console herO after getting 3-0d lul
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On June 08 2019 14:26 IshinShishi wrote: Dark won two games with less or equal amount of workers, he figured out that protoss players dont shift gears, its always "oh its x time, I attack now no matter what Pepega"
hero ignored the linchpin of 2 base timings in PvZ....walling off the sim city
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On June 08 2019 14:26 IshinShishi wrote: Dark won two games with less or equal amount of workers, he figured out that protoss players dont shift gears, its always "oh its x time, I attack now no matter what Pepega"
Yeah but what Dark did isn't even good against two base all-ins.
And going for three or four oracles was a thing for a while though not recently. I think Zest played that a lot?
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I've got this series figured out I think.
Dark = Zerg
Primal Zerg = Dinosaurs
Raptors = Primal Zerg
Dark = Raptors
This bodes well...
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is it just me or does herO build fewer probes than most people
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On June 08 2019 14:32 TheDougler wrote: I've got this series figured out I think.
Dark = Zerg
Primal Zerg = Dinosaurs
Raptors = Primal Zerg
Dark = Raptors
This bodes well...
Welp Durant didn't show up for herO.
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Thank you Dark, you prevented Ro4 of all Protoss.
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RIP 4/4 dream. BW more imba than SC2 confirmed.
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Thank you herO, you prevented a Ro4 of all Protoss.
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I mean I wanted Dark to win... But damn.
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parting and hero really dropped the ball
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Noregret 1x9 carrying rapid today, props.
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On June 08 2019 14:29 BerserkSword wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2019 14:26 IshinShishi wrote: Dark won two games with less or equal amount of workers, he figured out that protoss players dont shift gears, its always "oh its x time, I attack now no matter what Pepega" hero ignored the linchpin of 2 base timings in PvZ....walling off the sim city Even 2012 guides to wonwonwon wrote it clearly:when 6 sentries and 2 immortals leave the base wall off with a pylon/
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On June 08 2019 14:36 Noa Greenini wrote: I mean I wanted Dark to win... But damn. save your wish for ro4
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herO looked lost that whole series. Really looking like this is Dark's chance to grab a GSL
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this is honestly in terms of quality of the games the worst gsl ro8 i've ever seen
like, the trap inno series was very entertaining but the other 3 series were just an allin fest and either it worked or it didn't
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Zerg won but still crap series. 1h30 (Including pre game stuff, ads, breaks...). And the night is over, just like that.
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On June 08 2019 14:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2019 14:26 IshinShishi wrote: Dark won two games with less or equal amount of workers, he figured out that protoss players dont shift gears, its always "oh its x time, I attack now no matter what Pepega" Yeah but what Dark did isn't even good against two base all-ins. And going for three or four oracles was a thing for a while though not recently. I think Zest played that a lot? Dark's macro looked really bad, but I think it was intentional, he cut drones to get more queens and surprise snipe the warp prism, though im not sure about that because I play T
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On June 08 2019 14:37 Morbidius wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2019 14:29 BerserkSword wrote:On June 08 2019 14:26 IshinShishi wrote: Dark won two games with less or equal amount of workers, he figured out that protoss players dont shift gears, its always "oh its x time, I attack now no matter what Pepega" hero ignored the linchpin of 2 base timings in PvZ....walling off the sim city Even 2012 guides to wonwonwon wrote it clearly:when 6 sentries and 2 immortals leave the base wall off with a pylon/
forreal
my mind is blown right now.
didnt expect that from hero at all
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On June 08 2019 14:38 Psychonian wrote: this is honestly in terms of quality of the games the worst gsl ro8 i've ever seen
like, the trap inno series was very entertaining but the other 3 series were just an allin fest and either it worked or it didn't This is the worst GSL in years. I actually don't even know where we went wrong. This dissapointment was usually saved for finals and Serral vs Maru series, now it comes every friday night.
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On June 08 2019 14:41 Morbidius wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2019 14:38 Psychonian wrote: this is honestly in terms of quality of the games the worst gsl ro8 i've ever seen
like, the trap inno series was very entertaining but the other 3 series were just an allin fest and either it worked or it didn't This is the worst GSL in years. I actually don't even know where we went wrong. This dissapointment was usually saved for finals and Serral vs Maru series, now it comes every friday night. yeah, i’m not gonna balance whine or anything, but i am gonna say that if this kind of meta keeps up blizzard needs to do something purely for the sake of making the game fun, both to watch and to play because right now it’s just garbage
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GSL Ro.8 into KSL grand final I like it. Fun day of SC for me.
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On June 08 2019 14:40 IshinShishi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2019 14:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On June 08 2019 14:26 IshinShishi wrote: Dark won two games with less or equal amount of workers, he figured out that protoss players dont shift gears, its always "oh its x time, I attack now no matter what Pepega" Yeah but what Dark did isn't even good against two base all-ins. And going for three or four oracles was a thing for a while though not recently. I think Zest played that a lot? Dark's macro looked really bad, but I think it was intentional, he cut drones to get more queens and surprise snipe the warp prism, though im not sure about that because I play T because he knew herO is gonna 2 base him anyway but protoss does have another timing by getting storm and archon for another strong all in i think herO was too impatient for his plan today
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On June 08 2019 14:40 IshinShishi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2019 14:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On June 08 2019 14:26 IshinShishi wrote: Dark won two games with less or equal amount of workers, he figured out that protoss players dont shift gears, its always "oh its x time, I attack now no matter what Pepega" Yeah but what Dark did isn't even good against two base all-ins. And going for three or four oracles was a thing for a while though not recently. I think Zest played that a lot? Dark's macro looked really bad, but I think it was intentional, he cut drones to get more queens and surprise snipe the warp prism, though im not sure about that because I play T
Yeah, but he cut drones really early. He either was anticipating something earlier than the regular two base all-ins or more likely wanted to apply some pressure himself, but it still seemed a bit odd.
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I've rarely see such an unapealing ro4
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On June 08 2019 14:44 Mun_Su wrote: I've rarely see such an unapealing ro4 I hope Classic kills them all. The worst thing is there are plenty of bad Blizzard news floating around. This is the worst time for the game to look bad and unappealing.
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On June 08 2019 14:43 Psychonian wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2019 14:41 Morbidius wrote:On June 08 2019 14:38 Psychonian wrote: this is honestly in terms of quality of the games the worst gsl ro8 i've ever seen
like, the trap inno series was very entertaining but the other 3 series were just an allin fest and either it worked or it didn't This is the worst GSL in years. I actually don't even know where we went wrong. This dissapointment was usually saved for finals and Serral vs Maru series, now it comes every friday night. yeah, i’m not gonna balance whine or anything, but i am gonna say that if this kind of meta keeps up blizzard needs to do something purely for the sake of making the game fun, both to watch and to play because right now it’s just garbage It's been like GSL seasons 1-3 level in terms of sheer number of all-ins. It was interesting at first, but yeah, it's getting pretty boring. 2/3 non-mirror matchups are now based around 2 base all-ins.
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3 of last season top4 are back in this season top4
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Canada8988 Posts
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Broadcast under 2 hours lol
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Dark has only lost a single map this GSL season but is it enough to get him through the semifinals?
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If Dark can't beat Hurricane I don't know anymore.
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Noooo Dark, what a betrayer ! + the games are not greats.
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we all know that GSL is the best SC2 competition there is!
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On June 08 2019 14:48 Morbidius wrote:I hope Classic kills them all. The worst thing is there are plenty of bad Blizzard news floating around. This is the worst time for the game to look bad and unappealing.
Relax man, you must really hate Protoss for your posts to be impregnated of lowkey toxicity towards the game.
I'm glad Dark advanced to ruin the 4/4 senselessness, but Hurricane is actually strong in PvZ and could win without relying on PartinG playing terribly; Trap vs Dark would be, by far, the most interesting final.
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My finals pics are classic and Dark. Hopefully Dark will get (figuratively) murdered though. I really dislike him.
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I'm glad Dark advances to ro4 and I enjoyed the casting but damn that was fast.
It was interesting to see dark going fast third and stopping around 40 drones. Better than the classic "I'm at 66 drones at 5:30 and now I can die with no unit" , Did Dark scout something that tells "2 base all-in" or did he just knew it was comming?
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well, didn't waste much time on that one
hopefully the final 3 matches contain at least 1 actual series
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DARK! Can someone photoshop to get 'dark' and 'protoss' on this:
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Rooting for a Dark vs Classic finals so we can get a runback of their awesome semifinals from season 1 this year.
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Dark is a beast.
After getting abused by toss on the ladder for 10 days (new to the game) getting to see him put down that push that always kills me was inspiring.
I am a bad player (diamond 3) so it feels good that someone can beat a P, even if it isn't me.
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Northern Ireland24390 Posts
Dark vs herO, god some of those games.
Dark’s builds and drone/unit timing choices were straight up baffling to me first two games.
Playing stupidly all-in and taking a calculated gamble, or going ‘eco cheese’ on the same basis, sure, it’s Starcraft, it’s mindgames etc.
Of his own choosing he seemed to do the worst of all worlds, not aggressive enough to do anything, cutting too much eco to actually hold certain pushes.
Perhaps he’s mindgaming herO’s tendencies and they have practiced together and know each other very well, it seemed to me that he relied way way too much on herO letting lings through walls, or moving out and getting surrounded, just didn’t feel solid at all.
I feel it’s good for the tournament that it’s not all PvP for sure, but I hope Dark brings something a bit better next round.
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On June 09 2019 06:53 Wombat_NI wrote: Dark vs herO, god some of those games.
Dark’s builds and drone/unit timing choices were straight up baffling to me first two games.
Playing stupidly all-in and taking a calculated gamble, or going ‘eco cheese’ on the same basis, sure, it’s Starcraft, it’s mindgames etc.
Of his own choosing he seemed to do the worst of all worlds, not aggressive enough to do anything, cutting too much eco to actually hold certain pushes.
Perhaps he’s mindgaming herO’s tendencies and they have practiced together and know each other very well, it seemed to me that he relied way way too much on herO letting lings through walls, or moving out and getting surrounded, just didn’t feel solid at all.
I feel it’s good for the tournament that it’s not all PvP for sure, but I hope Dark brings something a bit better next round.
i felt like maybe dark was onto something with the big commitment to units. it can't be a mistake. maybe he played on ladder and found it was more consistent to skip the drones that would die to adepts anyway and make something happen with runbys. it's entirely possible that in this meta it's a valid way to play zerg, kind of like how TvP is based on units and aggression right now. once in a while a pro shows the world that what we think we know about a matchup has shifted.
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Northern Ireland24390 Posts
On June 09 2019 08:59 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2019 06:53 Wombat_NI wrote: Dark vs herO, god some of those games.
Dark’s builds and drone/unit timing choices were straight up baffling to me first two games.
Playing stupidly all-in and taking a calculated gamble, or going ‘eco cheese’ on the same basis, sure, it’s Starcraft, it’s mindgames etc.
Of his own choosing he seemed to do the worst of all worlds, not aggressive enough to do anything, cutting too much eco to actually hold certain pushes.
Perhaps he’s mindgaming herO’s tendencies and they have practiced together and know each other very well, it seemed to me that he relied way way too much on herO letting lings through walls, or moving out and getting surrounded, just didn’t feel solid at all.
I feel it’s good for the tournament that it’s not all PvP for sure, but I hope Dark brings something a bit better next round.
i felt like maybe dark was onto something with the big commitment to units. it can't be a mistake. maybe he played on ladder and found it was more consistent to skip the drones that would die to adepts anyway and make something happen with runbys. it's entirely possible that in this meta it's a valid way to play zerg, kind of like how TvP is based on units and aggression right now TvP is a bit different though, a ton of bio on your doorstep is different from a bunch of lings. You can’t just turtle behind your wall
That’s sort of what I meant by the worst of halfway houses, he cuts too much eco to be safe against certain things, but doesn’t commit enough to aggression to be aggressive.
Perhaps I’m missing something, these guys know what they’re doing.
soO made it through the Ro16 with some really calculated hardcore allins. Sure that’s risky in a sense, but I get his game plan there.
I’ll maybe rewatch them properly, games 1 and 2 it felt to me he had a bunch of units floating around too early, but not in sufficient number to really be properly aggressive with confidence.
‘I hope herO decides to push out to do a push he doesn’t have to do and I get a surround in open ground’ does not sound a stable plan to me.
Weird games for sure, definitely worth a detailed rewatch
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On June 08 2019 14:37 IshinShishi wrote: Noregret 1x9 carrying rapid today, props.
Truth. Some of rapids casting is just embarrassing.
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On June 09 2019 09:10 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2019 08:59 brickrd wrote:On June 09 2019 06:53 Wombat_NI wrote: Dark vs herO, god some of those games.
Dark’s builds and drone/unit timing choices were straight up baffling to me first two games.
Playing stupidly all-in and taking a calculated gamble, or going ‘eco cheese’ on the same basis, sure, it’s Starcraft, it’s mindgames etc.
Of his own choosing he seemed to do the worst of all worlds, not aggressive enough to do anything, cutting too much eco to actually hold certain pushes.
Perhaps he’s mindgaming herO’s tendencies and they have practiced together and know each other very well, it seemed to me that he relied way way too much on herO letting lings through walls, or moving out and getting surrounded, just didn’t feel solid at all.
I feel it’s good for the tournament that it’s not all PvP for sure, but I hope Dark brings something a bit better next round.
i felt like maybe dark was onto something with the big commitment to units. it can't be a mistake. maybe he played on ladder and found it was more consistent to skip the drones that would die to adepts anyway and make something happen with runbys. it's entirely possible that in this meta it's a valid way to play zerg, kind of like how TvP is based on units and aggression right now TvP is a bit different though, a ton of bio on your doorstep is different from a bunch of lings. You can’t just turtle behind your wall That’s sort of what I meant by the worst of halfway houses, he cuts too much eco to be safe against certain things, but doesn’t commit enough to aggression to be aggressive. Perhaps I’m missing something, these guys know what they’re doing. soO made it through the Ro16 with some really calculated hardcore allins. Sure that’s risky in a sense, but I get his game plan there. I’ll maybe rewatch them properly, games 1 and 2 it felt to me he had a bunch of units floating around too early, but not in sufficient number to really be properly aggressive with confidence. ‘I hope herO decides to push out to do a push he doesn’t have to do and I get a surround in open ground’ does not sound a stable plan to me. Weird games for sure, definitely worth a detailed rewatch
Honestly, I kinda feel like the games were so bad that they’re leading to a false sense of analysis that’s just going to lead to more conclusions that don’t actually fix the matchup.
Both players just seemed completely out of it.
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