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On March 02 2019 22:59 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 22:46 Fango wrote:On March 02 2019 22:44 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:43 starkiller123 wrote:On March 02 2019 22:39 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:37 starkiller123 wrote:On March 02 2019 22:37 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:31 Fango wrote:On March 02 2019 22:26 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:24 Fango wrote:
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He was probably the second (or maybe third) best player in the world that season as well. Facing Zest (who was number one) in Code A might be the worst bracket luck ever. If we measure it by performance vs Zest it's pretty clear Maru couldn't have been the second best  Debatable. While the score was one sided, the games were crazy. The score being 3-0 is very misleading to how close it was. TY "only" lost 4-2 , but all the games he did lose were roflstomps. Plus Maru smacked Zest, TY, Stats, and Dark in proleague afterwoods. Only 1 game between Maru and Zest in the Code A match was any close at all, Maru got stomped afterwards. He also did not smack Zest or TY in Proleague, unless you now smack someone if you barely come back from a deficit. remember that awful gold base map? Prion terrace or something like that First the gold base was a 3rd so it was super Zerg favored. Then the gold base got moved to the natural and it was suddenly very good for Protoss zerg could max out on roach ravager while terran had maybe 120 supply, good times Only way to win is to kite them with tankivacs starting at their natural Tankivacs, pylon cannons, 3 rax reapers, dasan station. 2016 had so many bad ideas. Don't forget the liberators AA which was nuts :D But comparing to the end of hots, it was still better imo, mech was becoming cancer and zvp was hard to say the least.
nah mech was fun. I still sometimes re-watch the Flash vs Curious series.
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On March 02 2019 23:00 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 22:57 starkiller123 wrote:
I also just like Stats a lot more than Neeb partly because he actually has a personality you're saying the korean has more personality than the foreigner? I thought that's not possible :O
heresy I know, can't go against the faceless korean narrative
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On March 02 2019 23:02 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 22:59 stilt wrote:On March 02 2019 22:46 Fango wrote:On March 02 2019 22:44 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:43 starkiller123 wrote:On March 02 2019 22:39 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:37 starkiller123 wrote:On March 02 2019 22:37 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:31 Fango wrote:On March 02 2019 22:26 Elentos wrote:[quote] If we measure it by performance vs Zest it's pretty clear Maru couldn't have been the second best Debatable. While the score was one sided, the games were crazy. The score being 3-0 is very misleading to how close it was. TY "only" lost 4-2 , but all the games he did lose were roflstomps. Plus Maru smacked Zest, TY, Stats, and Dark in proleague afterwoods. Only 1 game between Maru and Zest in the Code A match was any close at all, Maru got stomped afterwards. He also did not smack Zest or TY in Proleague, unless you now smack someone if you barely come back from a deficit. remember that awful gold base map? Prion terrace or something like that First the gold base was a 3rd so it was super Zerg favored. Then the gold base got moved to the natural and it was suddenly very good for Protoss zerg could max out on roach ravager while terran had maybe 120 supply, good times Only way to win is to kite them with tankivacs starting at their natural Tankivacs, pylon cannons, 3 rax reapers, dasan station. 2016 had so many bad ideas. Don't forget the liberators AA which was nuts :D But comparing to the end of hots, it was still better imo, mech was becoming cancer and zvp was hard to say the least. nah mech was fun. I still sometimes re-watch the Flash vs Curious series.
I also enjoyed Byul vs mech
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On March 02 2019 23:02 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 22:59 stilt wrote:On March 02 2019 22:46 Fango wrote:On March 02 2019 22:44 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:43 starkiller123 wrote:On March 02 2019 22:39 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:37 starkiller123 wrote:On March 02 2019 22:37 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:31 Fango wrote:On March 02 2019 22:26 Elentos wrote:[quote] If we measure it by performance vs Zest it's pretty clear Maru couldn't have been the second best Debatable. While the score was one sided, the games were crazy. The score being 3-0 is very misleading to how close it was. TY "only" lost 4-2 , but all the games he did lose were roflstomps. Plus Maru smacked Zest, TY, Stats, and Dark in proleague afterwoods. Only 1 game between Maru and Zest in the Code A match was any close at all, Maru got stomped afterwards. He also did not smack Zest or TY in Proleague, unless you now smack someone if you barely come back from a deficit. remember that awful gold base map? Prion terrace or something like that First the gold base was a 3rd so it was super Zerg favored. Then the gold base got moved to the natural and it was suddenly very good for Protoss zerg could max out on roach ravager while terran had maybe 120 supply, good times Only way to win is to kite them with tankivacs starting at their natural Tankivacs, pylon cannons, 3 rax reapers, dasan station. 2016 had so many bad ideas. Don't forget the liberators AA which was nuts :D But comparing to the end of hots, it was still better imo, mech was becoming cancer and zvp was hard to say the least. nah mech was fun. I still sometimes re-watch the Flash vs Curious series.
Flash with the million turrets and tank runbys and shit on Iron Fortress. GOAT game.
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On March 02 2019 23:02 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 22:59 stilt wrote:On March 02 2019 22:46 Fango wrote:On March 02 2019 22:44 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:43 starkiller123 wrote:On March 02 2019 22:39 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:37 starkiller123 wrote:On March 02 2019 22:37 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:31 Fango wrote:On March 02 2019 22:26 Elentos wrote:[quote] If we measure it by performance vs Zest it's pretty clear Maru couldn't have been the second best Debatable. While the score was one sided, the games were crazy. The score being 3-0 is very misleading to how close it was. TY "only" lost 4-2 , but all the games he did lose were roflstomps. Plus Maru smacked Zest, TY, Stats, and Dark in proleague afterwoods. Only 1 game between Maru and Zest in the Code A match was any close at all, Maru got stomped afterwards. He also did not smack Zest or TY in Proleague, unless you now smack someone if you barely come back from a deficit. remember that awful gold base map? Prion terrace or something like that First the gold base was a 3rd so it was super Zerg favored. Then the gold base got moved to the natural and it was suddenly very good for Protoss zerg could max out on roach ravager while terran had maybe 120 supply, good times Only way to win is to kite them with tankivacs starting at their natural Tankivacs, pylon cannons, 3 rax reapers, dasan station. 2016 had so many bad ideas. Don't forget the liberators AA which was nuts :D But comparing to the end of hots, it was still better imo, mech was becoming cancer and zvp was hard to say the least. nah mech was fun. I still sometimes re-watch the Flash vs Curious series.
I actually enjoyed watching Zerg players try to come up with answers for how strong mech was. Struggling for 40 minutes and ByuL actually winning most of the time still.
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On March 02 2019 23:02 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 22:59 stilt wrote:On March 02 2019 22:46 Fango wrote:On March 02 2019 22:44 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:43 starkiller123 wrote:On March 02 2019 22:39 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:37 starkiller123 wrote:On March 02 2019 22:37 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:31 Fango wrote:On March 02 2019 22:26 Elentos wrote:[quote] If we measure it by performance vs Zest it's pretty clear Maru couldn't have been the second best Debatable. While the score was one sided, the games were crazy. The score being 3-0 is very misleading to how close it was. TY "only" lost 4-2 , but all the games he did lose were roflstomps. Plus Maru smacked Zest, TY, Stats, and Dark in proleague afterwoods. Only 1 game between Maru and Zest in the Code A match was any close at all, Maru got stomped afterwards. He also did not smack Zest or TY in Proleague, unless you now smack someone if you barely come back from a deficit. remember that awful gold base map? Prion terrace or something like that First the gold base was a 3rd so it was super Zerg favored. Then the gold base got moved to the natural and it was suddenly very good for Protoss zerg could max out on roach ravager while terran had maybe 120 supply, good times Only way to win is to kite them with tankivacs starting at their natural Tankivacs, pylon cannons, 3 rax reapers, dasan station. 2016 had so many bad ideas. Don't forget the liberators AA which was nuts :D But comparing to the end of hots, it was still better imo, mech was becoming cancer and zvp was hard to say the least. nah mech was fun. I still sometimes re-watch the Flash vs Curious series.
ByuL's ZvT should have gone down as something amazing but no one remembers because he choked in like three consecutive finals
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On March 02 2019 23:04 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 23:02 Charoisaur wrote:On March 02 2019 22:59 stilt wrote:On March 02 2019 22:46 Fango wrote:On March 02 2019 22:44 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:43 starkiller123 wrote:On March 02 2019 22:39 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:37 starkiller123 wrote:On March 02 2019 22:37 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:31 Fango wrote:
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Debatable. While the score was one sided, the games were crazy. The score being 3-0 is very misleading to how close it was. TY "only" lost 4-2 , but all the games he did lose were roflstomps.
Plus Maru smacked Zest, TY, Stats, and Dark in proleague afterwoods. Only 1 game between Maru and Zest in the Code A match was any close at all, Maru got stomped afterwards. He also did not smack Zest or TY in Proleague, unless you now smack someone if you barely come back from a deficit. remember that awful gold base map? Prion terrace or something like that First the gold base was a 3rd so it was super Zerg favored. Then the gold base got moved to the natural and it was suddenly very good for Protoss zerg could max out on roach ravager while terran had maybe 120 supply, good times Only way to win is to kite them with tankivacs starting at their natural Tankivacs, pylon cannons, 3 rax reapers, dasan station. 2016 had so many bad ideas. Don't forget the liberators AA which was nuts :D But comparing to the end of hots, it was still better imo, mech was becoming cancer and zvp was hard to say the least. nah mech was fun. I still sometimes re-watch the Flash vs Curious series. Flash with the million turrets and tank runbys and shit on Iron Fortress. GOAT game.
Cactus Valley was even better. The saddest muta switch of all time.
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On March 02 2019 23:04 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 23:02 Charoisaur wrote:On March 02 2019 22:59 stilt wrote:On March 02 2019 22:46 Fango wrote:On March 02 2019 22:44 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:43 starkiller123 wrote:On March 02 2019 22:39 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:37 starkiller123 wrote:On March 02 2019 22:37 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:31 Fango wrote:
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Debatable. While the score was one sided, the games were crazy. The score being 3-0 is very misleading to how close it was. TY "only" lost 4-2 , but all the games he did lose were roflstomps.
Plus Maru smacked Zest, TY, Stats, and Dark in proleague afterwoods. Only 1 game between Maru and Zest in the Code A match was any close at all, Maru got stomped afterwards. He also did not smack Zest or TY in Proleague, unless you now smack someone if you barely come back from a deficit. remember that awful gold base map? Prion terrace or something like that First the gold base was a 3rd so it was super Zerg favored. Then the gold base got moved to the natural and it was suddenly very good for Protoss zerg could max out on roach ravager while terran had maybe 120 supply, good times Only way to win is to kite them with tankivacs starting at their natural Tankivacs, pylon cannons, 3 rax reapers, dasan station. 2016 had so many bad ideas. Don't forget the liberators AA which was nuts :D But comparing to the end of hots, it was still better imo, mech was becoming cancer and zvp was hard to say the least. nah mech was fun. I still sometimes re-watch the Flash vs Curious series. Flash with the million turrets and tank runbys and shit on Iron Fortress. GOAT game.
I liked those old 4 spawn maps cause I could blind open cc first and hope I wouldn't be scouted first
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On March 02 2019 22:58 starkiller123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 22:57 Elentos wrote:I hope TY wins. And I hope the series isn't shit. But I don't have extremely high hopes for either. I always expect to be disappointed just to be safe
Tbh I often don't watch his series live and check the results first before watching
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On March 02 2019 23:04 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 23:02 Charoisaur wrote:On March 02 2019 22:59 stilt wrote:On March 02 2019 22:46 Fango wrote:On March 02 2019 22:44 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:43 starkiller123 wrote:On March 02 2019 22:39 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:37 starkiller123 wrote:On March 02 2019 22:37 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:31 Fango wrote:
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Debatable. While the score was one sided, the games were crazy. The score being 3-0 is very misleading to how close it was. TY "only" lost 4-2 , but all the games he did lose were roflstomps.
Plus Maru smacked Zest, TY, Stats, and Dark in proleague afterwoods. Only 1 game between Maru and Zest in the Code A match was any close at all, Maru got stomped afterwards. He also did not smack Zest or TY in Proleague, unless you now smack someone if you barely come back from a deficit. remember that awful gold base map? Prion terrace or something like that First the gold base was a 3rd so it was super Zerg favored. Then the gold base got moved to the natural and it was suddenly very good for Protoss zerg could max out on roach ravager while terran had maybe 120 supply, good times Only way to win is to kite them with tankivacs starting at their natural Tankivacs, pylon cannons, 3 rax reapers, dasan station. 2016 had so many bad ideas. Don't forget the liberators AA which was nuts :D But comparing to the end of hots, it was still better imo, mech was becoming cancer and zvp was hard to say the least. nah mech was fun. I still sometimes re-watch the Flash vs Curious series. ByuL's ZvT should have gone down as something amazing but no one remembers because he choked in like three consecutive finals
ByuL was outrageously good against Terran really. Pretty much unbeatable with LBM if he reached his comfort zone and also able to bring any mech Terran to their limits.
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On March 02 2019 23:00 starkiller123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 22:59 stilt wrote:On March 02 2019 22:46 Fango wrote:On March 02 2019 22:44 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:43 starkiller123 wrote:On March 02 2019 22:39 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:37 starkiller123 wrote:On March 02 2019 22:37 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:31 Fango wrote:On March 02 2019 22:26 Elentos wrote:[quote] If we measure it by performance vs Zest it's pretty clear Maru couldn't have been the second best Debatable. While the score was one sided, the games were crazy. The score being 3-0 is very misleading to how close it was. TY "only" lost 4-2 , but all the games he did lose were roflstomps. Plus Maru smacked Zest, TY, Stats, and Dark in proleague afterwoods. Only 1 game between Maru and Zest in the Code A match was any close at all, Maru got stomped afterwards. He also did not smack Zest or TY in Proleague, unless you now smack someone if you barely come back from a deficit. remember that awful gold base map? Prion terrace or something like that First the gold base was a 3rd so it was super Zerg favored. Then the gold base got moved to the natural and it was suddenly very good for Protoss zerg could max out on roach ravager while terran had maybe 120 supply, good times Only way to win is to kite them with tankivacs starting at their natural Tankivacs, pylon cannons, 3 rax reapers, dasan station. 2016 had so many bad ideas. Don't forget the liberators AA which was nuts :D But comparing to the end of hots, it was still better imo, mech was becoming cancer and zvp was hard to say the least. I hard disagree with that, early lotv was actually so so bad
Well, the end of hots made me leave the game and I stopped following the scene, agree to disagree then, depsite Life's arrest which has been the hardest blow my passion has received, lotv still renewed my interest toward the game.
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On March 02 2019 23:06 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 23:00 starkiller123 wrote:On March 02 2019 22:59 stilt wrote:On March 02 2019 22:46 Fango wrote:On March 02 2019 22:44 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:43 starkiller123 wrote:On March 02 2019 22:39 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:37 starkiller123 wrote:On March 02 2019 22:37 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:31 Fango wrote:
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Debatable. While the score was one sided, the games were crazy. The score being 3-0 is very misleading to how close it was. TY "only" lost 4-2 , but all the games he did lose were roflstomps.
Plus Maru smacked Zest, TY, Stats, and Dark in proleague afterwoods. Only 1 game between Maru and Zest in the Code A match was any close at all, Maru got stomped afterwards. He also did not smack Zest or TY in Proleague, unless you now smack someone if you barely come back from a deficit. remember that awful gold base map? Prion terrace or something like that First the gold base was a 3rd so it was super Zerg favored. Then the gold base got moved to the natural and it was suddenly very good for Protoss zerg could max out on roach ravager while terran had maybe 120 supply, good times Only way to win is to kite them with tankivacs starting at their natural Tankivacs, pylon cannons, 3 rax reapers, dasan station. 2016 had so many bad ideas. Don't forget the liberators AA which was nuts :D But comparing to the end of hots, it was still better imo, mech was becoming cancer and zvp was hard to say the least. I hard disagree with that, early lotv was actually so so bad Well, the end of hots made me leave the game and I stopped following the scene, agree to disagree then, depsite Life's arrest which has been the hardest blow my passion has received, lotv still renewed my interest toward the game.
to each his own
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Sun (taeyang) vs Solar :D
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On March 02 2019 23:05 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 23:04 Fango wrote:On March 02 2019 23:02 Charoisaur wrote:On March 02 2019 22:59 stilt wrote:On March 02 2019 22:46 Fango wrote:On March 02 2019 22:44 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:43 starkiller123 wrote:On March 02 2019 22:39 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 22:37 starkiller123 wrote:On March 02 2019 22:37 Elentos wrote:
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Only 1 game between Maru and Zest in the Code A match was any close at all, Maru got stomped afterwards. He also did not smack Zest or TY in Proleague, unless you now smack someone if you barely come back from a deficit. remember that awful gold base map? Prion terrace or something like that First the gold base was a 3rd so it was super Zerg favored. Then the gold base got moved to the natural and it was suddenly very good for Protoss zerg could max out on roach ravager while terran had maybe 120 supply, good times Only way to win is to kite them with tankivacs starting at their natural Tankivacs, pylon cannons, 3 rax reapers, dasan station. 2016 had so many bad ideas. Don't forget the liberators AA which was nuts :D But comparing to the end of hots, it was still better imo, mech was becoming cancer and zvp was hard to say the least. nah mech was fun. I still sometimes re-watch the Flash vs Curious series. ByuL's ZvT should have gone down as something amazing but no one remembers because he choked in like three consecutive finals ByuL was outrageously good against Terran really. Pretty much unbeatable with LBM if he reached his comfort zone and also able to bring any mech Terran to their limits.
The Hots days where soO-Byul and Dark went full kong were hard time, they were all so good at the time
But the start of Lotv was indeed the worst for me, watching the game was ok, playing it was a nightmare
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Terran isn't a dead race yet
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Oh shit oh shit HERE WE GO
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Please don't disappoint, TY!
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On March 02 2019 23:05 sneakyfox wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 22:58 starkiller123 wrote:On March 02 2019 22:57 Elentos wrote:I hope TY wins. And I hope the series isn't shit. But I don't have extremely high hopes for either. I always expect to be disappointed just to be safe Tbh I often don't watch his series live and check the results first before watching
the safest option of all
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On March 02 2019 23:07 Fango wrote:
Terran isn't a dead race yet
Let's see if we can still say that in 20 minutes.
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Trap/herO game one was hilarious nonsense. Thanks for recommending it to me :D.
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