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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16022 Posts
March 02 2019 14:02 GMT
#481
On March 02 2019 22:59 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 22:46 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:44 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:43 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:39 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:37 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:37 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:31 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:26 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:24 Fango wrote:
[quote]
He was probably the second (or maybe third) best player in the world that season as well. Facing Zest (who was number one) in Code A might be the worst bracket luck ever.

If we measure it by performance vs Zest it's pretty clear Maru couldn't have been the second best

Debatable. While the score was one sided, the games were crazy. The score being 3-0 is very misleading to how close it was. TY "only" lost 4-2 , but all the games he did lose were roflstomps.

Plus Maru smacked Zest, TY, Stats, and Dark in proleague afterwoods.

Only 1 game between Maru and Zest in the Code A match was any close at all, Maru got stomped afterwards. He also did not smack Zest or TY in Proleague, unless you now smack someone if you barely come back from a deficit.

remember that awful gold base map? Prion terrace or something like that

First the gold base was a 3rd so it was super Zerg favored. Then the gold base got moved to the natural and it was suddenly very good for Protoss

zerg could max out on roach ravager while terran had maybe 120 supply, good times

Only way to win is to kite them with tankivacs starting at their natural

Tankivacs, pylon cannons, 3 rax reapers, dasan station. 2016 had so many bad ideas.


Don't forget the liberators AA which was nuts :D
But comparing to the end of hots, it was still better imo, mech was becoming cancer and zvp was hard to say the least.

nah mech was fun. I still sometimes re-watch the Flash vs Curious series.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 02 2019 14:02 GMT
#482
On March 02 2019 23:00 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 22:57 starkiller123 wrote:
I also just like Stats a lot more than Neeb partly because he actually has a personality

you're saying the korean has more personality than the foreigner? I thought that's not possible :O

heresy I know, can't go against the faceless korean narrative
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 02 2019 14:03 GMT
#483
On March 02 2019 23:02 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 22:59 stilt wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:46 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:44 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:43 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:39 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:37 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:37 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:31 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:26 Elentos wrote:
[quote]
If we measure it by performance vs Zest it's pretty clear Maru couldn't have been the second best

Debatable. While the score was one sided, the games were crazy. The score being 3-0 is very misleading to how close it was. TY "only" lost 4-2 , but all the games he did lose were roflstomps.

Plus Maru smacked Zest, TY, Stats, and Dark in proleague afterwoods.

Only 1 game between Maru and Zest in the Code A match was any close at all, Maru got stomped afterwards. He also did not smack Zest or TY in Proleague, unless you now smack someone if you barely come back from a deficit.

remember that awful gold base map? Prion terrace or something like that

First the gold base was a 3rd so it was super Zerg favored. Then the gold base got moved to the natural and it was suddenly very good for Protoss

zerg could max out on roach ravager while terran had maybe 120 supply, good times

Only way to win is to kite them with tankivacs starting at their natural

Tankivacs, pylon cannons, 3 rax reapers, dasan station. 2016 had so many bad ideas.


Don't forget the liberators AA which was nuts :D
But comparing to the end of hots, it was still better imo, mech was becoming cancer and zvp was hard to say the least.

nah mech was fun. I still sometimes re-watch the Flash vs Curious series.

I also enjoyed Byul vs mech
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
March 02 2019 14:04 GMT
#484
On March 02 2019 23:02 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 22:59 stilt wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:46 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:44 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:43 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:39 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:37 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:37 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:31 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:26 Elentos wrote:
[quote]
If we measure it by performance vs Zest it's pretty clear Maru couldn't have been the second best

Debatable. While the score was one sided, the games were crazy. The score being 3-0 is very misleading to how close it was. TY "only" lost 4-2 , but all the games he did lose were roflstomps.

Plus Maru smacked Zest, TY, Stats, and Dark in proleague afterwoods.

Only 1 game between Maru and Zest in the Code A match was any close at all, Maru got stomped afterwards. He also did not smack Zest or TY in Proleague, unless you now smack someone if you barely come back from a deficit.

remember that awful gold base map? Prion terrace or something like that

First the gold base was a 3rd so it was super Zerg favored. Then the gold base got moved to the natural and it was suddenly very good for Protoss

zerg could max out on roach ravager while terran had maybe 120 supply, good times

Only way to win is to kite them with tankivacs starting at their natural

Tankivacs, pylon cannons, 3 rax reapers, dasan station. 2016 had so many bad ideas.


Don't forget the liberators AA which was nuts :D
But comparing to the end of hots, it was still better imo, mech was becoming cancer and zvp was hard to say the least.

nah mech was fun. I still sometimes re-watch the Flash vs Curious series.


Flash with the million turrets and tank runbys and shit on Iron Fortress. GOAT game.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
March 02 2019 14:04 GMT
#485
On March 02 2019 23:02 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 22:59 stilt wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:46 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:44 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:43 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:39 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:37 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:37 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:31 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:26 Elentos wrote:
[quote]
If we measure it by performance vs Zest it's pretty clear Maru couldn't have been the second best

Debatable. While the score was one sided, the games were crazy. The score being 3-0 is very misleading to how close it was. TY "only" lost 4-2 , but all the games he did lose were roflstomps.

Plus Maru smacked Zest, TY, Stats, and Dark in proleague afterwoods.

Only 1 game between Maru and Zest in the Code A match was any close at all, Maru got stomped afterwards. He also did not smack Zest or TY in Proleague, unless you now smack someone if you barely come back from a deficit.

remember that awful gold base map? Prion terrace or something like that

First the gold base was a 3rd so it was super Zerg favored. Then the gold base got moved to the natural and it was suddenly very good for Protoss

zerg could max out on roach ravager while terran had maybe 120 supply, good times

Only way to win is to kite them with tankivacs starting at their natural

Tankivacs, pylon cannons, 3 rax reapers, dasan station. 2016 had so many bad ideas.


Don't forget the liberators AA which was nuts :D
But comparing to the end of hots, it was still better imo, mech was becoming cancer and zvp was hard to say the least.

nah mech was fun. I still sometimes re-watch the Flash vs Curious series.

I actually enjoyed watching Zerg players try to come up with answers for how strong mech was. Struggling for 40 minutes and ByuL actually winning most of the time still.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 02 2019 14:04 GMT
#486
On March 02 2019 23:02 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 22:59 stilt wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:46 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:44 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:43 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:39 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:37 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:37 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:31 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:26 Elentos wrote:
[quote]
If we measure it by performance vs Zest it's pretty clear Maru couldn't have been the second best

Debatable. While the score was one sided, the games were crazy. The score being 3-0 is very misleading to how close it was. TY "only" lost 4-2 , but all the games he did lose were roflstomps.

Plus Maru smacked Zest, TY, Stats, and Dark in proleague afterwoods.

Only 1 game between Maru and Zest in the Code A match was any close at all, Maru got stomped afterwards. He also did not smack Zest or TY in Proleague, unless you now smack someone if you barely come back from a deficit.

remember that awful gold base map? Prion terrace or something like that

First the gold base was a 3rd so it was super Zerg favored. Then the gold base got moved to the natural and it was suddenly very good for Protoss

zerg could max out on roach ravager while terran had maybe 120 supply, good times

Only way to win is to kite them with tankivacs starting at their natural

Tankivacs, pylon cannons, 3 rax reapers, dasan station. 2016 had so many bad ideas.


Don't forget the liberators AA which was nuts :D
But comparing to the end of hots, it was still better imo, mech was becoming cancer and zvp was hard to say the least.

nah mech was fun. I still sometimes re-watch the Flash vs Curious series.

ByuL's ZvT should have gone down as something amazing but no one remembers because he choked in like three consecutive finals
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
March 02 2019 14:04 GMT
#487
On March 02 2019 23:04 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 23:02 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:59 stilt wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:46 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:44 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:43 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:39 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:37 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:37 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:31 Fango wrote:
[quote]
Debatable. While the score was one sided, the games were crazy. The score being 3-0 is very misleading to how close it was. TY "only" lost 4-2 , but all the games he did lose were roflstomps.

Plus Maru smacked Zest, TY, Stats, and Dark in proleague afterwoods.

Only 1 game between Maru and Zest in the Code A match was any close at all, Maru got stomped afterwards. He also did not smack Zest or TY in Proleague, unless you now smack someone if you barely come back from a deficit.

remember that awful gold base map? Prion terrace or something like that

First the gold base was a 3rd so it was super Zerg favored. Then the gold base got moved to the natural and it was suddenly very good for Protoss

zerg could max out on roach ravager while terran had maybe 120 supply, good times

Only way to win is to kite them with tankivacs starting at their natural

Tankivacs, pylon cannons, 3 rax reapers, dasan station. 2016 had so many bad ideas.


Don't forget the liberators AA which was nuts :D
But comparing to the end of hots, it was still better imo, mech was becoming cancer and zvp was hard to say the least.

nah mech was fun. I still sometimes re-watch the Flash vs Curious series.


Flash with the million turrets and tank runbys and shit on Iron Fortress. GOAT game.

Cactus Valley was even better. The saddest muta switch of all time.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 02 2019 14:05 GMT
#488
On March 02 2019 23:04 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 23:02 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:59 stilt wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:46 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:44 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:43 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:39 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:37 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:37 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:31 Fango wrote:
[quote]
Debatable. While the score was one sided, the games were crazy. The score being 3-0 is very misleading to how close it was. TY "only" lost 4-2 , but all the games he did lose were roflstomps.

Plus Maru smacked Zest, TY, Stats, and Dark in proleague afterwoods.

Only 1 game between Maru and Zest in the Code A match was any close at all, Maru got stomped afterwards. He also did not smack Zest or TY in Proleague, unless you now smack someone if you barely come back from a deficit.

remember that awful gold base map? Prion terrace or something like that

First the gold base was a 3rd so it was super Zerg favored. Then the gold base got moved to the natural and it was suddenly very good for Protoss

zerg could max out on roach ravager while terran had maybe 120 supply, good times

Only way to win is to kite them with tankivacs starting at their natural

Tankivacs, pylon cannons, 3 rax reapers, dasan station. 2016 had so many bad ideas.


Don't forget the liberators AA which was nuts :D
But comparing to the end of hots, it was still better imo, mech was becoming cancer and zvp was hard to say the least.

nah mech was fun. I still sometimes re-watch the Flash vs Curious series.


Flash with the million turrets and tank runbys and shit on Iron Fortress. GOAT game.

I liked those old 4 spawn maps cause I could blind open cc first and hope I wouldn't be scouted first
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
March 02 2019 14:05 GMT
#489
On March 02 2019 22:58 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 22:57 Elentos wrote:
I hope TY wins. And I hope the series isn't shit. But I don't have extremely high hopes for either.

I always expect to be disappointed just to be safe


Tbh I often don't watch his series live and check the results first before watching
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
March 02 2019 14:05 GMT
#490
On March 02 2019 23:04 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 23:02 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:59 stilt wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:46 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:44 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:43 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:39 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:37 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:37 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:31 Fango wrote:
[quote]
Debatable. While the score was one sided, the games were crazy. The score being 3-0 is very misleading to how close it was. TY "only" lost 4-2 , but all the games he did lose were roflstomps.

Plus Maru smacked Zest, TY, Stats, and Dark in proleague afterwoods.

Only 1 game between Maru and Zest in the Code A match was any close at all, Maru got stomped afterwards. He also did not smack Zest or TY in Proleague, unless you now smack someone if you barely come back from a deficit.

remember that awful gold base map? Prion terrace or something like that

First the gold base was a 3rd so it was super Zerg favored. Then the gold base got moved to the natural and it was suddenly very good for Protoss

zerg could max out on roach ravager while terran had maybe 120 supply, good times

Only way to win is to kite them with tankivacs starting at their natural

Tankivacs, pylon cannons, 3 rax reapers, dasan station. 2016 had so many bad ideas.


Don't forget the liberators AA which was nuts :D
But comparing to the end of hots, it was still better imo, mech was becoming cancer and zvp was hard to say the least.

nah mech was fun. I still sometimes re-watch the Flash vs Curious series.

ByuL's ZvT should have gone down as something amazing but no one remembers because he choked in like three consecutive finals

ByuL was outrageously good against Terran really. Pretty much unbeatable with LBM if he reached his comfort zone and also able to bring any mech Terran to their limits.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2754 Posts
March 02 2019 14:06 GMT
#491
On March 02 2019 23:00 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 22:59 stilt wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:46 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:44 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:43 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:39 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:37 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:37 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:31 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:26 Elentos wrote:
[quote]
If we measure it by performance vs Zest it's pretty clear Maru couldn't have been the second best

Debatable. While the score was one sided, the games were crazy. The score being 3-0 is very misleading to how close it was. TY "only" lost 4-2 , but all the games he did lose were roflstomps.

Plus Maru smacked Zest, TY, Stats, and Dark in proleague afterwoods.

Only 1 game between Maru and Zest in the Code A match was any close at all, Maru got stomped afterwards. He also did not smack Zest or TY in Proleague, unless you now smack someone if you barely come back from a deficit.

remember that awful gold base map? Prion terrace or something like that

First the gold base was a 3rd so it was super Zerg favored. Then the gold base got moved to the natural and it was suddenly very good for Protoss

zerg could max out on roach ravager while terran had maybe 120 supply, good times

Only way to win is to kite them with tankivacs starting at their natural

Tankivacs, pylon cannons, 3 rax reapers, dasan station. 2016 had so many bad ideas.


Don't forget the liberators AA which was nuts :D
But comparing to the end of hots, it was still better imo, mech was becoming cancer and zvp was hard to say the least.

I hard disagree with that, early lotv was actually so so bad


Well, the end of hots made me leave the game and I stopped following the scene, agree to disagree then, depsite Life's arrest which has been the hardest blow my passion has received, lotv still renewed my interest toward the game.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 02 2019 14:06 GMT
#492
On March 02 2019 23:06 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 23:00 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:59 stilt wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:46 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:44 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:43 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:39 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:37 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:37 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:31 Fango wrote:
[quote]
Debatable. While the score was one sided, the games were crazy. The score being 3-0 is very misleading to how close it was. TY "only" lost 4-2 , but all the games he did lose were roflstomps.

Plus Maru smacked Zest, TY, Stats, and Dark in proleague afterwoods.

Only 1 game between Maru and Zest in the Code A match was any close at all, Maru got stomped afterwards. He also did not smack Zest or TY in Proleague, unless you now smack someone if you barely come back from a deficit.

remember that awful gold base map? Prion terrace or something like that

First the gold base was a 3rd so it was super Zerg favored. Then the gold base got moved to the natural and it was suddenly very good for Protoss

zerg could max out on roach ravager while terran had maybe 120 supply, good times

Only way to win is to kite them with tankivacs starting at their natural

Tankivacs, pylon cannons, 3 rax reapers, dasan station. 2016 had so many bad ideas.


Don't forget the liberators AA which was nuts :D
But comparing to the end of hots, it was still better imo, mech was becoming cancer and zvp was hard to say the least.

I hard disagree with that, early lotv was actually so so bad


Well, the end of hots made me leave the game and I stopped following the scene, agree to disagree then, depsite Life's arrest which has been the hardest blow my passion has received, lotv still renewed my interest toward the game.

to each his own
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33513 Posts
March 02 2019 14:06 GMT
#493
Sun (taeyang) vs Solar :D
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-02 14:08:44
March 02 2019 14:07 GMT
#494
On March 02 2019 23:05 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 23:04 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 23:02 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:59 stilt wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:46 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:44 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:43 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:39 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:37 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:37 Elentos wrote:
[quote]
Only 1 game between Maru and Zest in the Code A match was any close at all, Maru got stomped afterwards. He also did not smack Zest or TY in Proleague, unless you now smack someone if you barely come back from a deficit.

remember that awful gold base map? Prion terrace or something like that

First the gold base was a 3rd so it was super Zerg favored. Then the gold base got moved to the natural and it was suddenly very good for Protoss

zerg could max out on roach ravager while terran had maybe 120 supply, good times

Only way to win is to kite them with tankivacs starting at their natural

Tankivacs, pylon cannons, 3 rax reapers, dasan station. 2016 had so many bad ideas.


Don't forget the liberators AA which was nuts :D
But comparing to the end of hots, it was still better imo, mech was becoming cancer and zvp was hard to say the least.

nah mech was fun. I still sometimes re-watch the Flash vs Curious series.

ByuL's ZvT should have gone down as something amazing but no one remembers because he choked in like three consecutive finals

ByuL was outrageously good against Terran really. Pretty much unbeatable with LBM if he reached his comfort zone and also able to bring any mech Terran to their limits.

The Hots days where soO-Byul and Dark went full kong were hard time, they were all so good at the time

But the start of Lotv was indeed the worst for me, watching the game was ok, playing it was a nightmare
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 02 2019 14:07 GMT
#495
Terran isn't a dead race yet
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
March 02 2019 14:08 GMT
#496
Oh shit oh shit HERE WE GO
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
March 02 2019 14:08 GMT
#497
Please don't disappoint, TY!
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 02 2019 14:08 GMT
#498
On March 02 2019 23:05 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 22:58 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:57 Elentos wrote:
I hope TY wins. And I hope the series isn't shit. But I don't have extremely high hopes for either.

I always expect to be disappointed just to be safe


Tbh I often don't watch his series live and check the results first before watching

the safest option of all
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
March 02 2019 14:08 GMT
#499
On March 02 2019 23:07 Fango wrote:
Terran isn't a dead race yet

Let's see if we can still say that in 20 minutes.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
March 02 2019 14:08 GMT
#500
Trap/herO game one was hilarious nonsense. Thanks for recommending it to me :D.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
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