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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
March 02 2019 12:57 GMT
#301
On March 02 2019 21:55 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 21:54 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:53 starkiller123 wrote:
Zest got blasted, thank god we don't have to watch serral vs zest


Yeah, with his PvZ like that we all have to admit that soO must be Korea's Champion in the deathmatch

If the results were reversed, would we be hyped for Zest? Either way, terrible showing from Zest after the group stage was promising.


Wouldn't we? If Zest's play was inverted as well
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
March 02 2019 12:58 GMT
#302
On March 02 2019 21:56 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 21:55 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:46 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:44 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:43 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:41 DBooN wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:
if soO qualifies his match vs Serral should be very exciting. Is soO still excellent at ZvZ ?

I think he has gotten weaker, just like he's gotten worse overall, but it's still his strongest MU.

he hasn't gotten weaker. all players are constantly improving all the time /s

Zest and soO are way better know than in 2014. If you just look at the games you'd see the difference.

honestly I wish both of them could still play like they did in 2014

The ro4 they played in gsl that year is still one of the best series of all time. The level the two had in PvP/ZvZ is untouchable as well

hots gets a bad rep but I loved 2014

same. Probably not the best version of the game for a lot of reasons but the one I enjoyed playing and watching the most, by far
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
March 02 2019 12:59 GMT
#303
On March 02 2019 21:56 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 21:55 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:46 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:44 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:43 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:41 DBooN wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:
if soO qualifies his match vs Serral should be very exciting. Is soO still excellent at ZvZ ?

I think he has gotten weaker, just like he's gotten worse overall, but it's still his strongest MU.

he hasn't gotten weaker. all players are constantly improving all the time /s

Zest and soO are way better know than in 2014. If you just look at the games you'd see the difference.

honestly I wish both of them could still play like they did in 2014

The ro4 they played in gsl that year is still one of the best series of all time. The level the two had in PvP/ZvZ is untouchable as well

hots gets a bad rep but I loved 2014

I have way, way better memories of 2015 but that might be Terran bias.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
March 02 2019 13:00 GMT
#304
Do you guys think the dark horse RagnaroK has any shot against Neeb? e-e
Mine gas, build tanks.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
March 02 2019 13:00 GMT
#305
Did Ragnarok play ZvP when qualifying ? He only ZvZed and ZvTed in both GSL and his group. I have no idea how he'll play.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 02 2019 13:01 GMT
#306
On March 02 2019 21:59 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 21:56 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:55 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:46 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:44 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:43 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:41 DBooN wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:
if soO qualifies his match vs Serral should be very exciting. Is soO still excellent at ZvZ ?

I think he has gotten weaker, just like he's gotten worse overall, but it's still his strongest MU.

he hasn't gotten weaker. all players are constantly improving all the time /s

Zest and soO are way better know than in 2014. If you just look at the games you'd see the difference.

honestly I wish both of them could still play like they did in 2014

The ro4 they played in gsl that year is still one of the best series of all time. The level the two had in PvP/ZvZ is untouchable as well

hots gets a bad rep but I loved 2014

I have way, way better memories of 2015 but that might be Terran bias.

that Polt vs Hydra final is one of my all time favorites
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
March 02 2019 13:01 GMT
#307
On March 02 2019 21:59 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 21:56 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:55 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:46 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:44 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:43 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:41 DBooN wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:
if soO qualifies his match vs Serral should be very exciting. Is soO still excellent at ZvZ ?

I think he has gotten weaker, just like he's gotten worse overall, but it's still his strongest MU.

he hasn't gotten weaker. all players are constantly improving all the time /s

Zest and soO are way better know than in 2014. If you just look at the games you'd see the difference.

honestly I wish both of them could still play like they did in 2014

The ro4 they played in gsl that year is still one of the best series of all time. The level the two had in PvP/ZvZ is untouchable as well

hots gets a bad rep but I loved 2014

I have way, way better memories of 2015 but that might be Terran bias.

2015 gave us Dream vs Life and Dream vs Dark so yeah - the best year.
Also the fact that it was the peak of korean sc2 with Proleague and double Starleagues with all the top players playing in korea
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3511 Posts
March 02 2019 13:01 GMT
#308
On March 02 2019 22:00 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Did Ragnarok play ZvP when qualifying ? He only ZvZed and ZvTed in both GSL and his group. I have no idea how he'll play.

Beat Dear iirc.
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
March 02 2019 13:01 GMT
#309
On March 02 2019 22:00 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Did Ragnarok play ZvP when qualifying ? He only ZvZed and ZvTed in both GSL and his group. I have no idea how he'll play.

He won vs Dear, which is not indicative of anything really
Faker is the GOAT!
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 02 2019 13:02 GMT
#310
On March 02 2019 22:01 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 21:59 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:56 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:55 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:46 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:44 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:43 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:41 DBooN wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:
if soO qualifies his match vs Serral should be very exciting. Is soO still excellent at ZvZ ?

I think he has gotten weaker, just like he's gotten worse overall, but it's still his strongest MU.

he hasn't gotten weaker. all players are constantly improving all the time /s

Zest and soO are way better know than in 2014. If you just look at the games you'd see the difference.

honestly I wish both of them could still play like they did in 2014

The ro4 they played in gsl that year is still one of the best series of all time. The level the two had in PvP/ZvZ is untouchable as well

hots gets a bad rep but I loved 2014

I have way, way better memories of 2015 but that might be Terran bias.

2015 gave us Dream vs Life and Dream vs Dark so yeah - the best year.
Also the fact that it was the peak of korean sc2 with Proleague and double Starleagues with all the top players playing in korea

yeah 2015 was a pretty great year too, blizzcon 2014 was way better than 2015 though
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
March 02 2019 13:02 GMT
#311
On March 02 2019 22:01 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 21:59 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:56 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:55 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:46 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:44 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:43 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:41 DBooN wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:
if soO qualifies his match vs Serral should be very exciting. Is soO still excellent at ZvZ ?

I think he has gotten weaker, just like he's gotten worse overall, but it's still his strongest MU.

he hasn't gotten weaker. all players are constantly improving all the time /s

Zest and soO are way better know than in 2014. If you just look at the games you'd see the difference.

honestly I wish both of them could still play like they did in 2014

The ro4 they played in gsl that year is still one of the best series of all time. The level the two had in PvP/ZvZ is untouchable as well

hots gets a bad rep but I loved 2014

I have way, way better memories of 2015 but that might be Terran bias.

2015 gave us Dream vs Life and Dream vs Dark so yeah - the best year.
Also the fact that it was the peak of korean sc2 with Proleague and double Starleagues with all the top players playing in korea

ohh proleague how I miss you :/
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-02 13:03:54
March 02 2019 13:03 GMT
#312
On March 02 2019 22:02 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 22:01 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:59 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:56 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:55 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:46 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:44 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:43 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:41 DBooN wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:
if soO qualifies his match vs Serral should be very exciting. Is soO still excellent at ZvZ ?

I think he has gotten weaker, just like he's gotten worse overall, but it's still his strongest MU.

he hasn't gotten weaker. all players are constantly improving all the time /s

Zest and soO are way better know than in 2014. If you just look at the games you'd see the difference.

honestly I wish both of them could still play like they did in 2014

The ro4 they played in gsl that year is still one of the best series of all time. The level the two had in PvP/ZvZ is untouchable as well

hots gets a bad rep but I loved 2014

I have way, way better memories of 2015 but that might be Terran bias.

2015 gave us Dream vs Life and Dream vs Dark so yeah - the best year.
Also the fact that it was the peak of korean sc2 with Proleague and double Starleagues with all the top players playing in korea

yeah 2015 was a pretty great year too, blizzcon 2014 was way better than 2015 though

I dunno, 2015 had epic finals with 2 idiots cheesing each other 7 games in a row. It also had Rain cheesing out Polt because he couldn't beat him in a macro game

I think I prefer 2015 for everything except Blizzcon.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
March 02 2019 13:04 GMT
#313
I'm up. Did I miss any good games?
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-02 13:04:55
March 02 2019 13:04 GMT
#314
On March 02 2019 22:04 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
I'm up. Did I miss any good games?

apparently the first series was hilarious but I don't think you missed anything really crucial
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
March 02 2019 13:04 GMT
#315
On March 02 2019 22:04 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
I'm up. Did I miss any good games?

I'm not sure I'd call Trap vs herO games 1 and 2 good, but they were sure as shit worth watching. Avoid soO vs Zest like the plague.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
March 02 2019 13:04 GMT
#316
On March 02 2019 22:04 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
I'm up. Did I miss any good games?

nah
I Protoss winner, could it be?
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 02 2019 13:05 GMT
#317
On March 02 2019 22:04 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
I'm up. Did I miss any good games?

herO vs trap was actually hilarious and the most protoss series ever, don't bother with Zest vs soO
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
March 02 2019 13:06 GMT
#318
On March 02 2019 22:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 22:04 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
I'm up. Did I miss any good games?

apparently the first series was hilarious but I don't think you missed anything really crucial


On March 02 2019 22:04 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 22:04 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
I'm up. Did I miss any good games?

I'm not sure I'd call Trap vs herO games 1 and 2 good, but they were sure as shit worth watching. Avoid soO vs Zest like the plague.


Sounds like Trap/herO was my kind of series .
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 02 2019 13:06 GMT
#319
On March 02 2019 22:03 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 22:02 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 22:01 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:59 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:56 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:55 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:46 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:44 Fango wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:43 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:41 DBooN wrote:
[quote]
I think he has gotten weaker, just like he's gotten worse overall, but it's still his strongest MU.

he hasn't gotten weaker. all players are constantly improving all the time /s

Zest and soO are way better know than in 2014. If you just look at the games you'd see the difference.

honestly I wish both of them could still play like they did in 2014

The ro4 they played in gsl that year is still one of the best series of all time. The level the two had in PvP/ZvZ is untouchable as well

hots gets a bad rep but I loved 2014

I have way, way better memories of 2015 but that might be Terran bias.

2015 gave us Dream vs Life and Dream vs Dark so yeah - the best year.
Also the fact that it was the peak of korean sc2 with Proleague and double Starleagues with all the top players playing in korea

yeah 2015 was a pretty great year too, blizzcon 2014 was way better than 2015 though

I dunno, 2015 had epic finals with 2 idiots cheesing each other 7 games in a row. It also had Rain cheesing out Polt because he couldn't beat him in a macro game

I think I prefer 2015 for everything except Blizzcon.

not to mention the whole Lilbow fiasco and INnoVation rolling over and dying to Life
Toua
Profile Joined February 2017
Denmark318 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-02 13:08:46
March 02 2019 13:08 GMT
#320
So Neeb and Ragnarok are figthing to see who will lose to Stats

Edit: and i guess 5000 dollars but who cares about that
Stats, Dark, Maru <3
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