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[WCS 2019] Winter Series - Group Stage 1 - Day 8

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Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
February 10 2019 13:27 GMT
#1

WCS 2019


eu Sunday, Feb 10 3:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
us Sunday, Feb 10 7:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)


(Wiki)2019 WCS Winter/Europe
(Wiki)2019 WCS Winter/Americas

Streams & Casters


uk WCS

(P)iNcontroL - (T)Nathanias - (P)feardragon - (T)ZombieGrub

Format

  • First Group Stage:

  • 32 players in 8 groups of 4 players each, played in a Dual Tournament
  • All Matches are Bo3.
  • Top 2 players of each group advance to Group Stage 2.

Map Pool



Group H


eu
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(P)ShoWTimE vs (Z)HateMe
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(Z)Zanster vs (Z)SortOf



us
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(P)Has vs (T)PSiArc

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(P)puCK vs (P)FireFly


Results


+ Show Spoiler [EU Group H] +


+ Show Spoiler [Matchlist] +


+ Show Spoiler [NA Group H] +


+ Show Spoiler [Matchlist] +




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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 10 2019 14:41 GMT
#2
Europe: Showtime + a close race for 2nd, probably Zanster?

Americas: Has + puCK? I have no clue aside from Has.
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1237 Posts
February 10 2019 14:58 GMT
#3
No shade to Showtime, but EU Group = Has waiting room
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Xitah
Profile Joined October 2018
49 Posts
February 10 2019 15:35 GMT
#4
I Has been waiting for this!!!!!
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
February 10 2019 15:57 GMT
#5
Psiarc's day, I hope!
Year of MaxPax
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-10 16:22:54
February 10 2019 16:22 GMT
#6
On February 10 2019 23:41 HolydaKing wrote:
Europe: Showtime + a close race for 2nd, probably Zanster?

Americas: Has + puCK? I have no clue aside from Has.


Unless Firefly is legit puCK should have it easy, maybe in 1th his he get lucky he's been on point lately.
And as much as I like Psiarc struggle across the ages to finally get into a WCS he's gonna get slamed harder than QXC keyboard.
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-10 16:53:33
February 10 2019 16:53 GMT
#7
Sortof gota hate himself after that one
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Rob-Zero
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany459 Posts
February 10 2019 16:53 GMT
#8
Don´t know how SortOf managed to lose that game. Even from Korea.
Dark Age of Camelot - I miss you
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-10 17:44:33
February 10 2019 16:59 GMT
#9
group H AM is one of the most interesting groups we've had in a while. Has, Puck, a CN protoss and a japanese terran? nuts
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
February 10 2019 17:06 GMT
#10
On February 11 2019 01:53 Nakajin wrote:
Sortof gota hate himself after that one

I loved it though. Great entertainment.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 10 2019 17:18 GMT
#11
ouch Sortof
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 10 2019 17:49 GMT
#12
Wow, Austrian dude is about to kick out the Swedes. =D Go HateMe.
Stormhoof
Profile Joined January 2015
Serbia182 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-10 17:50:05
February 10 2019 17:49 GMT
#13
HateMe deserves to advance, really refreshing to see newcomer kick known players like that.
Stormhoof
Profile Joined January 2015
Serbia182 Posts
February 10 2019 17:53 GMT
#14
Btw, racial distribution after round 1 in EU will be : 8P, 6Z and 2T.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-10 17:59:30
February 10 2019 17:56 GMT
#15
On February 11 2019 02:53 Stormhoof wrote:
Btw, racial distribution after round 1 in EU will be : 8P, 6Z and 2T.

Could be more even NA looks better, will probably be 6P 6T 4Z.

Niceee! GG HateMe. Now I'm hyped for some HAS action.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
February 10 2019 17:58 GMT
#16
On February 11 2019 02:53 Stormhoof wrote:
Btw, racial distribution after round 1 in EU will be : 8P, 6Z and 2T.

means nothing. T has lagged in EU for years over periods when the race was strong and when it was weak as well, there's a lack of full-time top talent.
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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
February 10 2019 17:58 GMT
#17
Solid nydusing by HateMe.
why even
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5589 Posts
February 10 2019 17:59 GMT
#18
Sweden ;__;
don't wall off against random
Stormhoof
Profile Joined January 2015
Serbia182 Posts
February 10 2019 18:00 GMT
#19
On February 11 2019 02:58 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2019 02:53 Stormhoof wrote:
Btw, racial distribution after round 1 in EU will be : 8P, 6Z and 2T.

means nothing. T has lagged in EU for years over periods when the race was strong and when it was weak as well, there's a lack of full-time top talent.


Well, MarineLorD and souL deserves to advance by skill, Ziggy isnt bad aswell. Kas was close. I am not balance whiner, just saying Protoss is doing exceptionaly well after latest patch. I am P myself.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 10 2019 18:00 GMT
#20
On February 11 2019 02:59 rotta wrote:
Sweden ;__;

At least not wiped out yet, Namshar prevented that!
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
February 10 2019 18:05 GMT
#21
On February 11 2019 02:59 rotta wrote:
Sweden ;__;

unluky
why even
Legan
Profile Joined June 2017
Finland414 Posts
February 10 2019 18:06 GMT
#22
Distribution for next round would probably differ if group F wasn't so stacked. souL and MarineLord could have advanced from other weaker groups, A and D mostly. Also, Nerchio not advancing is probably biggest upset.
Creator of Gresvan, Tropical Sacrifice, Taitalika, and Golden Forge
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
February 10 2019 18:07 GMT
#23
On February 11 2019 03:05 D-light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2019 02:59 rotta wrote:
Sweden ;__;

unluky
That's not how Sweden works.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5589 Posts
February 10 2019 18:11 GMT
#24
TIME HAS COME
don't wall off against random
Legan
Profile Joined June 2017
Finland414 Posts
February 10 2019 18:15 GMT
#25
Have we got confirmation, that we are getting ro16 groups at the end of the broadcast? I expect it, because they start on Thursday.
Creator of Gresvan, Tropical Sacrifice, Taitalika, and Golden Forge
Stormhoof
Profile Joined January 2015
Serbia182 Posts
February 10 2019 18:26 GMT
#26
what happened in g1? I was afk like 10 minutes...
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10080 Posts
February 10 2019 18:31 GMT
#27
2 prism mass chargelots. 1 prism in the main and 1 in the natural while taking a fourth. psiarc didnt look good in that game.
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Stormhoof
Profile Joined January 2015
Serbia182 Posts
February 10 2019 18:32 GMT
#28
thx!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
February 10 2019 18:46 GMT
#29
On February 11 2019 03:00 Stormhoof wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2019 02:58 brickrd wrote:
On February 11 2019 02:53 Stormhoof wrote:
Btw, racial distribution after round 1 in EU will be : 8P, 6Z and 2T.

means nothing. T has lagged in EU for years over periods when the race was strong and when it was weak as well, there's a lack of full-time top talent.


Well, MarineLorD and souL deserves to advance by skill, Ziggy isnt bad aswell. Kas was close. I am not balance whiner, just saying Protoss is doing exceptionaly well after latest patch. I am P myself.

I'm not sure I'd consider MLorD one of the 16 best players in Europe yet, but he was definitely the weakest player in one of the hardest groups.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States972 Posts
February 10 2019 19:18 GMT
#30
On February 11 2019 03:15 Legan wrote:
Have we got confirmation, that we are getting ro16 groups at the end of the broadcast? I expect it, because they start on Thursday.

I asked about this earlier and I don’t think it’ll be ready by broadcast end but they want to have it announced by tomorrow. I’ll mention that on the broadcast at the end though and we’ll recap the Ro16 players.
Ok Starcraft 2 Commentator
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 10 2019 19:38 GMT
#31
This NA group ... so one-sided games so far. Unless miracles happen, puCK and Has will advance after what we've seen so far.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 10 2019 19:49 GMT
#32
Oh shit, hadn't realised Has was playing today. Did I miss anything amazing?
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden737 Posts
February 10 2019 19:52 GMT
#33
On February 11 2019 04:49 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Oh shit, hadn't realised Has was playing today. Did I miss anything amazing?


nah, first match was standard.

Only now he has done something we would expect
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 10 2019 19:53 GMT
#34
On February 11 2019 04:52 Kreuger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2019 04:49 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Oh shit, hadn't realised Has was playing today. Did I miss anything amazing?


nah, first match was standard.

Only now he has done something we would expect


Good, I'm just in time then :D.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 10 2019 19:55 GMT
#35
Warp Gate research starting .
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
February 10 2019 19:58 GMT
#36
very Has
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 10 2019 19:58 GMT
#37
That was fun!
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 10 2019 20:12 GMT
#38
puCK > Has apparently, at least in PvP.
parrotpitaya
Profile Joined January 2019
Germany37 Posts
February 10 2019 20:14 GMT
#39
obvious unfair lag
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 10 2019 20:23 GMT
#40
wow, i always liked ZG before but whats with her being a total bitch to feardragon on stream for apparently no reason. that was like massively rude and awkward to watch, not because of him, he actually handled it well.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-10 20:28:01
February 10 2019 20:24 GMT
#41
On February 11 2019 05:23 travis wrote:
wow, i always liked ZG before but whats with her being a total bitch to feardragon on stream for apparently no reason. that was like massively rude and awkward to watch, not because of him, he actually handled it well.


Wasn't watching did something actually happen or is it the "Ravi is getting bullied" meme?

Also Ravi seems like you can't get out of this meme
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-10 20:30:29
February 10 2019 20:28 GMT
#42
I've never liked the bullying "meme", it's kind of gross bullshit, but at least it normally is funny or is clearly playful. This, not so much. You'd just have to watch it, it was awkward.

The good news is it made me really like feardragon, good for him, he handled ridiculous criticism in front of tens of thousands of people live very well.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-10 20:35:06
February 10 2019 20:34 GMT
#43
On February 11 2019 05:28 travis wrote:
I've never liked the bullying "meme", it's kind of gross bullshit, but at least it normally is funny or is clearly playful. This, not so much. You'd just have to watch it, it was awkward.

The good news is it made me really like feardragon, good for him, he handled ridiculous criticism in front of tens of thousands of people live very well.


I don't want to be rude but he said time and time again that he hate when people say he's getting bullied/ defend him against other caster. Doesn't mean you have to find it ok, but just saying.

Also if Has win this I quit Starcraft
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-10 20:46:07
February 10 2019 20:39 GMT
#44
On February 11 2019 05:34 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2019 05:28 travis wrote:
I've never liked the bullying "meme", it's kind of gross bullshit, but at least it normally is funny or is clearly playful. This, not so much. You'd just have to watch it, it was awkward.

The good news is it made me really like feardragon, good for him, he handled ridiculous criticism in front of tens of thousands of people live very well.


I don't want to be rude but he said time and time again that he hate when people say he's getting bullied/ defend him against other caster. Doesn't mean you have to find it ok, but just saying.

Also if Has win this I quit Starcraft


It doesn't really matter to me if a victim of shitty behavior says it okay, I am still going to call it shitty behavior. There's lots of awful reasons that people who get bullied say "it's fine".

That said, there is a difference between being playful and bullying. If viewers (like me) have no way to tell which is which, then maybe just avoid it and be nice. There was no joke there, it was just rude. It literally made me feel bad to watch it, and I know I am not the only one because I was watching the twitch chat.

And I do know about the running meme, I watch a lot of the WCS streams. I don't like it but sometimes it's funny, but mostly there are cues that its playful, and it's not just straight up irrelevant criticism.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 10 2019 20:50 GMT
#45
Noooooo has
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
February 10 2019 20:55 GMT
#46
I love Has
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10080 Posts
February 10 2019 20:57 GMT
#47
this game xD
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
February 10 2019 21:01 GMT
#48
dammit, Has could've won that match if he just cheesed a little less
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 10 2019 21:02 GMT
#49
On February 11 2019 06:01 Die4Ever wrote:
dammit, Has could've won that match if he just cheesed a little less


That's not the Has way, a win without a cheese isn't a win
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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10080 Posts
February 10 2019 21:02 GMT
#50
On February 11 2019 06:02 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2019 06:01 Die4Ever wrote:
dammit, Has could've won that match if he just cheesed a little less


That's not the Has way, a win without a cheese isn't a win

amen
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
February 10 2019 21:02 GMT
#51
Did ZG just insult Elfi?!
Enstein
Profile Joined April 2013
Russian Federation134 Posts
February 10 2019 21:16 GMT
#52
Very disappointed that the draw does not take place live. This also leaves practically no time for the players in the first groups to prepare.

Nice play by HateMe and Puck. ZG was a total disaster and she also came totally unprepared suggesting that TooDming came second in group A. Hope they get rid of her for the round of 16.
Rooting for MaNa, Snute and Bunny. Europe holds!
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
February 10 2019 21:27 GMT
#53
3 Chinese players in ro16, scboy's investments are paying off, really nice.

It promises for the Proleague.
TL+ Member
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 10 2019 21:44 GMT
#54
On February 11 2019 06:27 DieuCure wrote:
3 Chinese players in ro16, scboy's investments are paying off, really nice.

It promises for the Proleague.


Coffee especially was a nice surprise, always hard to tell the level of someone playing against Has
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feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States972 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-10 22:06:18
February 10 2019 22:04 GMT
#55
On February 11 2019 05:39 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2019 05:34 Nakajin wrote:
On February 11 2019 05:28 travis wrote:
I've never liked the bullying "meme", it's kind of gross bullshit, but at least it normally is funny or is clearly playful. This, not so much. You'd just have to watch it, it was awkward.

The good news is it made me really like feardragon, good for him, he handled ridiculous criticism in front of tens of thousands of people live very well.


I don't want to be rude but he said time and time again that he hate when people say he's getting bullied/ defend him against other caster. Doesn't mean you have to find it ok, but just saying.

Also if Has win this I quit Starcraft


It doesn't really matter to me if a victim of shitty behavior says it okay, I am still going to call it shitty behavior. There's lots of awful reasons that people who get bullied say "it's fine".

That said, there is a difference between being playful and bullying. If viewers (like me) have no way to tell which is which, then maybe just avoid it and be nice. There was no joke there, it was just rude. It literally made me feel bad to watch it, and I know I am not the only one because I was watching the twitch chat.

And I do know about the running meme, I watch a lot of the WCS streams. I don't like it but sometimes it's funny, but mostly there are cues that its playful, and it's not just straight up irrelevant criticism.

I’m sorry you felt that way. ZG and I are really good friends and I poke fun at her as much as she does me. Please trust me that there is no actual rudeness. Just friends poking fun at each other. We’ve known each other for 6-7 years.
Ok Starcraft 2 Commentator
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-10 22:14:00
February 10 2019 22:13 GMT
#56
glad to hear it

please be aware that there are many people who feel uncomfortable by it

zg: sorry for saying you were acting like a bitch
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 10 2019 22:14 GMT
#57
Has out? joke tournament
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 10 2019 22:17 GMT
#58
On February 11 2019 07:13 travis wrote:
glad to hear it

please be aware that there are many people who feel uncomfortable by it

zg: sorry for saying you were acting like a bitch


I don't think casters need to change because of a few idiots on twitch chat who don't understand jokes or want to create drama.
Zerg for Life
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 10 2019 22:37 GMT
#59
ah yes, anyone who sees it and thinks it looks like one person is being mean to the other is clearly "an idiot". im just a big dumb idiot, and all of those people in twitch are idiots who just want drama
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-10 22:47:46
February 10 2019 22:47 GMT
#60
On February 11 2019 07:37 travis wrote:
ah yes, anyone who sees it and thinks it looks like one person is being mean to the other is clearly "an idiot". im just a big dumb idiot, and all of those people in twitch are idiots who just want drama


i mean you misunderstood it so.
Zerg for Life
HelpMeGetBetter
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States764 Posts
February 10 2019 23:37 GMT
#61
when are next groups being announced?
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 10 2019 23:46 GMT
#62
On February 11 2019 08:37 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
when are next groups being announced?


Tomorrow normally
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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
February 11 2019 08:46 GMT
#63
On February 11 2019 07:37 travis wrote:
ah yes, anyone who sees it and thinks it looks like one person is being mean to the other is clearly "an idiot". im just a big dumb idiot, and all of those people in twitch are idiots who just want drama


well not if its he first time but after they said it 100 times its starting to get annoying explaining it to everyone xD

i liked the cast and i like fd and zg xD
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6931 Posts
February 11 2019 12:30 GMT
#64
On February 11 2019 08:46 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2019 08:37 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
when are next groups being announced?


Tomorrow normally


Is there anything official about this? Will this be streamed? Are there any seeding rules? Can't wait! :D
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 11 2019 12:54 GMT
#65
On February 11 2019 21:30 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2019 08:46 Nakajin wrote:
On February 11 2019 08:37 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
when are next groups being announced?


Tomorrow normally


Is there anything official about this? Will this be streamed? Are there any seeding rules? Can't wait! :D



On February 11 2019 04:18 feardragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2019 03:15 Legan wrote:
Have we got confirmation, that we are getting ro16 groups at the end of the broadcast? I expect it, because they start on Thursday.

I asked about this earlier and I don’t think it’ll be ready by broadcast end but they want to have it announced by tomorrow. I’ll mention that on the broadcast at the end though and we’ll recap the Ro16 players.

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