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On December 21 2018 21:13 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2018 19:46 Ej_ wrote:
If Durn wins the LRSL World Championship, who will be the SC2 world champion? You can have more than one world championship. Currently Serral is the reigning WCS world champion, and Rogue is the reigning IEM world champion. Katowice is certainly a better tournament than blizzcon, given it has almost every decent sc2 player competing and a much better format. But you could argue WCS had more prestige.
Isn't boxing something with a multitude of titles? I never cared much for boxing
Playerwise: Which players did you miss at Blizzcon that were huge contenders for IEM?
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On December 21 2018 21:16 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2018 19:41 uummpaa wrote:On December 21 2018 18:34 Harris1st wrote:On December 20 2018 23:22 uummpaa wrote:On December 20 2018 21:03 Harris1st wrote:On December 20 2018 17:38 uummpaa wrote:On December 20 2018 08:21 Pandain wrote:On December 20 2018 08:05 Fango wrote:
Shame korea doesn't get more spots from qualifiers, especially with Serral giving europe an extra slot. Its much easier for EU players get participate in the open bracket. No residency requirements for any of the regional qualifiers aka anyone can compete in any region. EU may be too much lag but expect lots of Koreans playing on NA yeah, in the 2018 edition of the tournament, pretty much every top lvl korean made it through some kind of qualifier ( and only pretty much because of a guy named soul ^^) i'm really looking forward to this, especially if you compare the quality of games in2018 between this tournament and blizzcon, i tink it's safe to say that this will be the truer world championship in my book What? Pretty hyped for this, shame it's such a long way of. I hope the qualifiers are streamed as well? what what? there are two world championsships in sc2 and i prefere this one Agree to disagree. What qualifies in your opinion for a world championship? That it's a non-invite tournament and everyone is eligible? That would mean WESG is a world championship too and probably a few more tournaments as well. Also it doesn't make sense for a world championship to give points for another world championship, does it? well apart from the sublte fact that its called a world championship, it has pretty much all the best players of the world (not just top 8 of restricted regions, which also answers your silly WESG comparison), and if you would care to show me any sport( i honestly don't know to many sports that well, so they could exist) where a world championship is nothing with a regular qualifier then feel free to do so, but you can keep your opinion all you want, since already my first line should be enough ^^ If the name is enough for you, that's your thing. For me, just because sth is called sth doesn't mean it actually is. Everyone and their mother could name sth world championship I guess. WESG is exactly that? I don't understand. Do we mean the same thing? Everyone has the opportunity to qualify AFAIK I don't understand the regular sports comparison, like what you mean exactly language-wise. Could you explain further? Obviously I don't mean any offense, this is mostly curiousity. If there are some good arguments for and against sth I'm always open-mined 
k,
sure your open minded when you don't understand a single point i make, so yeah, choose your one and only world championship, i'm sure its the right choice
so long
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On December 21 2018 21:20 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2018 21:13 Fango wrote:On December 21 2018 19:46 Ej_ wrote:
If Durn wins the LRSL World Championship, who will be the SC2 world champion? You can have more than one world championship. Currently Serral is the reigning WCS world champion, and Rogue is the reigning IEM world champion. Katowice is certainly a better tournament than blizzcon, given it has almost every decent sc2 player competing and a much better format. But you could argue WCS had more prestige. Isn't boxing something with a multitude of titles? I never cared much for boxing Playerwise: Which players did you miss at Blizzcon that were huge contenders for IEM?
Top players that were at Katowice but missing from Blizzcon are Dear, Solar, Inno, Trap, Gumiho.
Maybe they are not the top favourites for the title but they are all capable of making a deep run which raises the overall quality of the tournament and makes it harder for all the other players to win.
Also I prefer Katowice just because the format is better imo.
1 bad bo3 series at Blizzcon can mean the end of the tournament for you if your other series is against a top top player (see: Classic)
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On December 21 2018 21:20 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2018 21:13 Fango wrote:On December 21 2018 19:46 Ej_ wrote:
If Durn wins the LRSL World Championship, who will be the SC2 world champion? You can have more than one world championship. Currently Serral is the reigning WCS world champion, and Rogue is the reigning IEM world champion. Katowice is certainly a better tournament than blizzcon, given it has almost every decent sc2 player competing and a much better format. But you could argue WCS had more prestige. Isn't boxing something with a multitude of titles? I never cared much for boxing Playerwise: Which players did you miss at Blizzcon that were huge contenders for IEM?
Yeah boxing has like 4 or 5 world titles that can be held by different athletes at once.
And many top players were at Katowice this year but not blizzcon. Solar, Dear, Trap, Gumiho, soO come to mine.
Then you have players like Hurricane, Bunny, Impact, Ryung, Leenock, Snute, uThermal, Patience, Scarlett etc. Sure they aren't really contenders for the title, but they aren't pushovers and still contribute to the competition.
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On December 21 2018 22:49 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2018 21:20 Harris1st wrote:On December 21 2018 21:13 Fango wrote:On December 21 2018 19:46 Ej_ wrote:
If Durn wins the LRSL World Championship, who will be the SC2 world champion? You can have more than one world championship. Currently Serral is the reigning WCS world champion, and Rogue is the reigning IEM world champion. Katowice is certainly a better tournament than blizzcon, given it has almost every decent sc2 player competing and a much better format. But you could argue WCS had more prestige. Isn't boxing something with a multitude of titles? I never cared much for boxing Playerwise: Which players did you miss at Blizzcon that were huge contenders for IEM? Top players that were at Katowice but missing from Blizzcon are Dear, Solar, Inno, Trap, Gumiho. Maybe they are not the top favourites for the title but they are all capable of making a deep run which raises the overall quality of the tournament and makes it harder for all the other players to win. Also I prefer Katowice just because the format is better imo. 1 bad bo3 series at Blizzcon can mean the end of the tournament for you if your other series is against a top top player (see: Classic)
Blizzcon is a joke, remember 2016 for example, Zest and Violet were so out of shape but qualified because of the first half of the year ...
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Canada8989 Posts
On December 23 2018 05:59 DieuCure wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2018 22:49 Charoisaur wrote:On December 21 2018 21:20 Harris1st wrote:On December 21 2018 21:13 Fango wrote:On December 21 2018 19:46 Ej_ wrote:
If Durn wins the LRSL World Championship, who will be the SC2 world champion? You can have more than one world championship. Currently Serral is the reigning WCS world champion, and Rogue is the reigning IEM world champion. Katowice is certainly a better tournament than blizzcon, given it has almost every decent sc2 player competing and a much better format. But you could argue WCS had more prestige. Isn't boxing something with a multitude of titles? I never cared much for boxing Playerwise: Which players did you miss at Blizzcon that were huge contenders for IEM? Top players that were at Katowice but missing from Blizzcon are Dear, Solar, Inno, Trap, Gumiho. Maybe they are not the top favourites for the title but they are all capable of making a deep run which raises the overall quality of the tournament and makes it harder for all the other players to win. Also I prefer Katowice just because the format is better imo. 1 bad bo3 series at Blizzcon can mean the end of the tournament for you if your other series is against a top top player (see: Classic) Blizzcon is a joke, remember 2016 for example, Zest and Violet were so out of shape but qualified because of the first half of the year ...
Was that the year Hydra chose love over 11000$?
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Yes, and Polt had to withdraw due to military service. 
Probably the worst Blizzcon of LoTV ( except Byun's story but eh ).
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On December 23 2018 07:25 DieuCure wrote:Yes, and Polt had to withdraw due to military service. Probably the worst Blizzcon of LoTV ( except Byun's story but eh ).
let's face it,
all LoTV blizzcons weren't that great (from the quality of the games at least, there where some neat storylines in all 3 of them i think)
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and so it begins.... the best tournament of the year
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On December 24 2018 17:39 uummpaa wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2018 07:25 DieuCure wrote:Yes, and Polt had to withdraw due to military service. Probably the worst Blizzcon of LoTV ( except Byun's story but eh ). let's face it, all LoTV blizzcons weren't that great (from the quality of the games at least, there where some neat storylines in all 3 of them i think)
The 2016 Blizzcon was great not only due to story lines but games as well. May be the finals weren't the best, but there were many good games, starting from the group stage.
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On December 23 2018 06:28 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2018 05:59 DieuCure wrote:On December 21 2018 22:49 Charoisaur wrote:On December 21 2018 21:20 Harris1st wrote:On December 21 2018 21:13 Fango wrote:On December 21 2018 19:46 Ej_ wrote:
If Durn wins the LRSL World Championship, who will be the SC2 world champion? You can have more than one world championship. Currently Serral is the reigning WCS world champion, and Rogue is the reigning IEM world champion. Katowice is certainly a better tournament than blizzcon, given it has almost every decent sc2 player competing and a much better format. But you could argue WCS had more prestige. Isn't boxing something with a multitude of titles? I never cared much for boxing Playerwise: Which players did you miss at Blizzcon that were huge contenders for IEM? Top players that were at Katowice but missing from Blizzcon are Dear, Solar, Inno, Trap, Gumiho. Maybe they are not the top favourites for the title but they are all capable of making a deep run which raises the overall quality of the tournament and makes it harder for all the other players to win. Also I prefer Katowice just because the format is better imo. 1 bad bo3 series at Blizzcon can mean the end of the tournament for you if your other series is against a top top player (see: Classic) Blizzcon is a joke, remember 2016 for example, Zest and Violet were so out of shape but qualified because of the first half of the year ... Was that the year Hydra chose love over 11000$?
His wedding probably cost more than $10K
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On December 24 2018 20:46 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2018 06:28 Nakajin wrote:On December 23 2018 05:59 DieuCure wrote:On December 21 2018 22:49 Charoisaur wrote:On December 21 2018 21:20 Harris1st wrote:On December 21 2018 21:13 Fango wrote:On December 21 2018 19:46 Ej_ wrote:
If Durn wins the LRSL World Championship, who will be the SC2 world champion? You can have more than one world championship. Currently Serral is the reigning WCS world champion, and Rogue is the reigning IEM world champion. Katowice is certainly a better tournament than blizzcon, given it has almost every decent sc2 player competing and a much better format. But you could argue WCS had more prestige. Isn't boxing something with a multitude of titles? I never cared much for boxing Playerwise: Which players did you miss at Blizzcon that were huge contenders for IEM? Top players that were at Katowice but missing from Blizzcon are Dear, Solar, Inno, Trap, Gumiho. Maybe they are not the top favourites for the title but they are all capable of making a deep run which raises the overall quality of the tournament and makes it harder for all the other players to win. Also I prefer Katowice just because the format is better imo. 1 bad bo3 series at Blizzcon can mean the end of the tournament for you if your other series is against a top top player (see: Classic) Blizzcon is a joke, remember 2016 for example, Zest and Violet were so out of shape but qualified because of the first half of the year ... Was that the year Hydra chose love over 11000$? His wedding probably cost more than $10K
well, i guess that the price for the wedding would be roughly the same a few weeks earlier or later, and he could have planned blizzcon ahead of time considering his lvl of play.
but nobody can argue with his priorities here i would say, and we don't know the details anyway.
what really amazes me everytime is the amount of money people spend for their weddings, but thats a little off tópic i guess^^
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Canada8989 Posts
On December 24 2018 20:26 bulya wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2018 17:39 uummpaa wrote:On December 23 2018 07:25 DieuCure wrote:Yes, and Polt had to withdraw due to military service. Probably the worst Blizzcon of LoTV ( except Byun's story but eh ). let's face it, all LoTV blizzcons weren't that great (from the quality of the games at least, there where some neat storylines in all 3 of them i think) The 2016 Blizzcon was great not only due to story lines but games as well. May be the finals weren't the best, but there were many good games, starting from the group stage.
2016 was the worst for me because I really hated Buyn style of play, proxy reaper and 2-1-1 got old really fast for me. I imagine it was the same way for some people watching sOs winning in 2013-15.
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On December 24 2018 21:16 uummpaa wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2018 20:46 Fango wrote:On December 23 2018 06:28 Nakajin wrote:On December 23 2018 05:59 DieuCure wrote:On December 21 2018 22:49 Charoisaur wrote:On December 21 2018 21:20 Harris1st wrote:On December 21 2018 21:13 Fango wrote:On December 21 2018 19:46 Ej_ wrote:
If Durn wins the LRSL World Championship, who will be the SC2 world champion? You can have more than one world championship. Currently Serral is the reigning WCS world champion, and Rogue is the reigning IEM world champion. Katowice is certainly a better tournament than blizzcon, given it has almost every decent sc2 player competing and a much better format. But you could argue WCS had more prestige. Isn't boxing something with a multitude of titles? I never cared much for boxing Playerwise: Which players did you miss at Blizzcon that were huge contenders for IEM? Top players that were at Katowice but missing from Blizzcon are Dear, Solar, Inno, Trap, Gumiho. Maybe they are not the top favourites for the title but they are all capable of making a deep run which raises the overall quality of the tournament and makes it harder for all the other players to win. Also I prefer Katowice just because the format is better imo. 1 bad bo3 series at Blizzcon can mean the end of the tournament for you if your other series is against a top top player (see: Classic) Blizzcon is a joke, remember 2016 for example, Zest and Violet were so out of shape but qualified because of the first half of the year ... Was that the year Hydra chose love over 11000$? His wedding probably cost more than $10K well, i guess that the price for the wedding would be roughly the same a few weeks earlier or later, and he could have planned blizzcon ahead of time considering his lvl of play.
Hydra's wedding was supposed to be before the tournament. No announcement being made yet at the time of planning, the date was selected based on the schedule of the previous years, with them expecting it to work out.
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On December 25 2018 00:32 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2018 21:16 uummpaa wrote:On December 24 2018 20:46 Fango wrote:On December 23 2018 06:28 Nakajin wrote:On December 23 2018 05:59 DieuCure wrote:On December 21 2018 22:49 Charoisaur wrote:On December 21 2018 21:20 Harris1st wrote:On December 21 2018 21:13 Fango wrote:On December 21 2018 19:46 Ej_ wrote:
If Durn wins the LRSL World Championship, who will be the SC2 world champion? You can have more than one world championship. Currently Serral is the reigning WCS world champion, and Rogue is the reigning IEM world champion. Katowice is certainly a better tournament than blizzcon, given it has almost every decent sc2 player competing and a much better format. But you could argue WCS had more prestige. Isn't boxing something with a multitude of titles? I never cared much for boxing Playerwise: Which players did you miss at Blizzcon that were huge contenders for IEM? Top players that were at Katowice but missing from Blizzcon are Dear, Solar, Inno, Trap, Gumiho. Maybe they are not the top favourites for the title but they are all capable of making a deep run which raises the overall quality of the tournament and makes it harder for all the other players to win. Also I prefer Katowice just because the format is better imo. 1 bad bo3 series at Blizzcon can mean the end of the tournament for you if your other series is against a top top player (see: Classic) Blizzcon is a joke, remember 2016 for example, Zest and Violet were so out of shape but qualified because of the first half of the year ... Was that the year Hydra chose love over 11000$? His wedding probably cost more than $10K well, i guess that the price for the wedding would be roughly the same a few weeks earlier or later, and he could have planned blizzcon ahead of time considering his lvl of play. Hydra's wedding was supposed to be before the tournament. No announcement being made yet at the time of planning, the date was selected based on the schedule of the previous years, with them expecting it to work out.
well, then once again:
nobody can hold his priorities against him
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A small reminder folks, qualifiers begin this week with the Americas one, don't forget to sign up.
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Btw, can EU players sign for US qualies and otherwise? I see a lot of Koreans in EU quali but I cant signup for US. (i am from Europe). Just wanna check if its kinda region-locked
Edit : Its now open to all
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I'll be casting NA qualifiers
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On January 03 2019 23:57 ZeRoX_TV wrote:Btw, can EU players sign for US qualies and otherwise? I see a lot of Koreans in EU quali but I cant signup for US. (i am from Europe). Just wanna check if its kinda region-locked Edit : Its now open to all
It has been like that for a while. The qualifiers are server qualifiers, that is, they are played on those specific servers. You can play in every single one of them if you want.
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Alright folks, we are just a few moments away from the first qualifier, and I will link to remind all of you of these important details:
- Sign up link: https://iem.gg/IEMKATO2019-SC2-NA
- In-game Chat Channel: IEM (/join IEM in the Americas region)
- Check-in: Saturday, Jan 05 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
- Late Sign up: Saturday, Jan 05 9:45pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in case you forgot to sign up, you can do it during the Late Sign up)
- Starting hour: Saturday, Jan 05 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
IMPORTANT NOTES ABOUT THE TOURNAMENT
- All players must upload the replays of their matches
- No Skins are allowed, all players have to play with the default skin;
- All the in-game names should be recognizable and attached to your online persona. If you need help in setting up your ESL account please check this guide;
- All the Qualifiers will be transmitted by a team of pre selected Casters - for those who don't remember, applications were open since the announcement of the qualifiers. Currently we have streams listed to broadcast in English, German, French, Polish, Korean, Spanish, Brazilian Portuguese, and Taiwanese (see first post);
- 8 Players advance from Stage 1 to Stage 2, that means the last round played today is the Ro16. Stage 2 is played tomorrow, Sunday, Jan 06 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
If you end up facing issues when signing up, or have any general questions regarding the tournament, feel free to open a ticket on the support
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