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On November 04 2018 08:17 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2018 08:15 JJH777 wrote:On November 04 2018 08:14 Bagration wrote: The first Bonjwa of SC2 is a foreigner hahaha Can we let him a win a single starleague before he gets that title please? Yea, he's got one already this summer by beating Stats
GSL vs the World is an invite based special event lol. It's not on the level of an OSL/SSL/GSL in terms of difficulty.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 04 2018 08:17 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: ah the tears of all the Serral haters and korean elitists over here are going to be sweet for a long time.
You know, it's okay to think Several is merely "really good" without all the superlatives. That's not being a hater or an elitist.
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On November 04 2018 08:19 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2018 08:17 Makro wrote:On November 04 2018 08:17 BretZ wrote:On November 04 2018 08:16 Charoisaur wrote:On November 04 2018 08:15 BretZ wrote:On November 04 2018 08:14 deacon.frost wrote:On November 04 2018 08:13 Charoisaur wrote:On November 04 2018 08:12 mierin wrote:On November 04 2018 08:12 Sabu113 wrote: Remember JvZ?
Perhaps we'll be talking about SvZ soon. I've been called out for mentioning this before, prepare for some criticism it wasn't even called SvZ when soO dominated the matchup Foreigner bias... yea jeez fuck people for being happy for the first good foreigner...ever....against the korean dominated sport. wow people are so racist for cheering for an underdog you can cheer for him without calling him "bonjwa", GOAT, "SvZ" etc lmao people are just insecure about having an other great zerg foreigner that's it You do realize you're replying to people who value Serral pretty high in the rankings, do you? But we're not blind fanboys.
and heres the backpedal
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Russian Federation40169 Posts
On November 04 2018 08:19 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2018 08:17 Bagration wrote:On November 04 2018 08:15 JJH777 wrote:On November 04 2018 08:14 Bagration wrote: The first Bonjwa of SC2 is a foreigner hahaha Can we let him a win a single starleague before he gets that title please? Yea, he's got one already this summer by beating Stats GSL vs the World is an invite based special event lol. It's not on the level of an OSL/SSL/GSL in terms of difficulty. It is considered a legitimate GSL title, see Mvp and Innovation, this is the joke.
Naturally it is not a starleague title, true.
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On November 04 2018 08:19 IshinShishi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2018 08:17 blade55555 wrote:On November 04 2018 08:15 Zerothegreat wrote:On November 04 2018 08:12 Philozovic wrote: HOW DID HE WON ????? Because we don't see lategame ZvZ very often in professional play, it is easy to see that Serral was winning the entire game. When you have a bank in lategame, having less workers is an advantage due to the bigger army supply and the bank to keep max. Combine that with the fact that Serral trades so efficiently and lost less Vipers in each engagement. He just had to wait for Rogue to dry his gas bank out. Serral is just soooo smart in late game. I was a little confused when there were people saying Rogue at the advantage. Serral had 3k more gas, 6-8k minerals and Rogue had 8k minerals and no gas and 20-30 more workers. Serral had the advantage for most of that late game imo. I mean, if Rogue didn't consistently lose the viper battles he could take it, but he lost every single one of them, in every other aspect he was doing great. he was throwing away a lot of units all the time, wasted so many resources with nydus as well
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Even when sOs doesn't win blizzcon he destroyed everyone's dream of maru vs serral.
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On November 04 2018 08:18 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2018 08:17 blade55555 wrote:On November 04 2018 08:15 Zerothegreat wrote:On November 04 2018 08:12 Philozovic wrote: HOW DID HE WON ????? Because we don't see lategame ZvZ very often in professional play, it is easy to see that Serral was winning the entire game. When you have a bank in lategame, having less workers is an advantage due to the bigger army supply and the bank to keep max. Combine that with the fact that Serral trades so efficiently and lost less Vipers in each engagement. He just had to wait for Rogue to dry his gas bank out. Serral is just soooo smart in late game. I was a little confused when there were people saying Rogue at the advantage. Serral had 3k more gas, 6-8k minerals and Rogue had 8k minerals and no gas and 20-30 more workers. Serral had the advantage for most of that late game imo. Rogue had the superior economy for a long time. If he had been able to maintain the advantage he would've won. Thing is, Rogue did not get any gas in the top left base. That was such a fail.
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On November 04 2018 08:15 Zerothegreat wrote:Because we don't see lategame ZvZ very often in professional play, it is easy to see that Serral was winning the entire game. When you have a bank in lategame, having less workers is an advantage due to the bigger army supply and the bank to keep max. Combine that with the fact that Serral trades so efficiently and lost less Vipers in each engagement. He just had to wait for Rogue to dry his gas bank out. Serral is just soooo smart in late game.
He was behing in eco from the middle game 20 workers behind for 10+ min did nothing but defend with his army advantage still won ....
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only 30min break for serral. not that much
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Stats is Tassador, Serral is Overmind.
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No matter who wins this, Serral already proved that he's the greatest Z in the world right now.
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Czech Republic12116 Posts
On November 04 2018 08:18 BretZ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2018 08:17 deacon.frost wrote:On November 04 2018 08:16 Charoisaur wrote:On November 04 2018 08:15 BretZ wrote:On November 04 2018 08:14 deacon.frost wrote:On November 04 2018 08:13 Charoisaur wrote:On November 04 2018 08:12 mierin wrote:On November 04 2018 08:12 Sabu113 wrote: Remember JvZ?
Perhaps we'll be talking about SvZ soon. I've been called out for mentioning this before, prepare for some criticism it wasn't even called SvZ when soO dominated the matchup Foreigner bias... yea jeez fuck people for being happy for the first good foreigner...ever....against the korean dominated sport. wow people are so racist for cheering for an underdog you can cheer for him without calling him "bonjwa", GOAT, "SvZ" etc You can't explain this to them. So pretentious Yeah, why not though?
I tried several times using several other things and yet all the replies I got was LMAO, ROTFL(whatever that meant), Bonjwa, you jealous, etc.
So my experience is, that the debate was already lost and there's none. Surprise me. Or not, I'm going to bed anyway.
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Russian Federation40169 Posts
On November 04 2018 08:20 argonautdice wrote: Even when sOs doesn't win blizzcon he destroyed everyone's dream of maru vs serral. Stats would beat Maru anyway, tbh.
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On November 04 2018 08:17 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: ah the tears of all the Serral haters and korean elitists over here are going to be sweet for a long time.
Poor rodya :/
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France12466 Posts
On November 04 2018 08:20 Philozovic wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2018 08:15 Zerothegreat wrote:On November 04 2018 08:12 Philozovic wrote: HOW DID HE WON ????? Because we don't see lategame ZvZ very often in professional play, it is easy to see that Serral was winning the entire game. When you have a bank in lategame, having less workers is an advantage due to the bigger army supply and the bank to keep max. Combine that with the fact that Serral trades so efficiently and lost less Vipers in each engagement. He just had to wait for Rogue to dry his gas bank out. Serral is just soooo smart in late game. He was behing in eco from the middle game 20 workers behind for 10+ min did nothing but defend with his army advantage still won .... Workers don't matter that much, gas and cost efficiency matter the most.
This was a long death animation for Rogue kinda like his game vs TY on the same map imho
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I'm so nervous right now. I can't even imagine how much pressure Stats feels.
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Italy2573 Posts
On November 04 2018 08:21 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2018 08:20 argonautdice wrote: Even when sOs doesn't win blizzcon he destroyed everyone's dream of maru vs serral. Stats would beat Maru anyway, tbh. ^this
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On November 04 2018 08:17 argonautdice wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2018 08:16 IshinShishi wrote:On November 04 2018 08:14 Philozovic wrote:On November 04 2018 08:13 starkiller123 wrote: really sad that serral never got to challenge korea when it was at it height in kespa, fun last game more like really sad that kespa at it height couldn't challenge serral Serral got really good during 2017-18, he would just get murdered during kespa era Are you rodya's alt? ? Look at serral's history, he was nothing worthy of note during his early years. Certainly no Flash/Life
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don't be too happy please, korean ellitists are annoyed
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