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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
October 27 2018 18:19 GMT
#341
yo, showtime beat dark? how were the games?
TL+ Member
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
October 27 2018 18:19 GMT
#342
On October 28 2018 03:17 DarkGamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2018 03:14 opisska wrote:
So having an opinion about the gameplay which is not "everything is so amazing" is negative now? Go away with such terrible attitude, we are here to discuss the games and that requires the ability to say that we don't think some play was good.



Chill. He is kinda right. Argueing a game was bad and telling what a pro should have done - beside it is clearly wrong - is just trying to bring negativity. Its not discussing the game. Beside that ur post is kinda aggressive ("go away with such a terrible attitude"). Chill


No it's not "trying to bring negativity". That's just what you "everything needs to be flowers" people read into it. I would be very disappointed if this attitude prevailed here, as it has done in so many other places of the internet.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
October 27 2018 18:19 GMT
#343
On October 28 2018 03:19 Paljas wrote:
yo, showtime beat dark? how were the games?

Game 1: Dark tried to proxy hatch and got scouted immediately and got rekt.
Game 2: DIE MAUER
very illegal and very uncool
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15972 Posts
October 27 2018 18:19 GMT
#344
On October 28 2018 03:17 DarkGamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2018 03:14 opisska wrote:
So having an opinion about the gameplay which is not "everything is so amazing" is negative now? Go away with such terrible attitude, we are here to discuss the games and that requires the ability to say that we don't think some play was good.



Chill. He is kinda right. Saying a game was bad and telling what a pro should have done - beside it is clearly wrong - is just trying to bring negativity. Its not discussing the game. Beside that ur post is kinda aggressive ("go away with such a terrible attitude"). Chill

agreed. Pros should never be criticized. That's just trying to bring negativity
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
October 27 2018 18:20 GMT
#345
Even though I am Dark fan, I'll admit Showtime played well that series more than Dark was playing poorly.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
October 27 2018 18:20 GMT
#346
On October 28 2018 03:19 Paljas wrote:
yo, showtime beat dark? how were the games?


Game 1 Dark failed proxy hatch and took 10 minute deatch animation, game 2 Showtime won a long macro game defending ling bane aggresion well and teching to enough carriers to close.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
October 27 2018 18:20 GMT
#347
On October 28 2018 03:19 Paljas wrote:
yo, showtime beat dark? how were the games?


In game one Showtime scouted Darks proxy-hatch and basically played it safe from there.
Game 2 was pretty good though, went into lategame with lots of harrassing, big fights etc.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
October 27 2018 18:20 GMT
#348
On October 28 2018 03:14 opisska wrote:
So having an opinion about the gameplay which is not "everything is so amazing" is negative now? Go away with such terrible attitude, we are here to discuss the games and that requires the ability to say that we don't think some play was good.

Are you kidding me, there have been 8 best of 3s so far between the top players, commentated by the best talent, and after the best game of the tourney the troll comes here to complain how not fun it is, and there hasnt been literally A SINGLE GOOD GAME, and I have the terrible attitude? Go to the store and buy a reality check.
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
October 27 2018 18:21 GMT
#349
On October 28 2018 03:19 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2018 03:17 DarkGamer wrote:
On October 28 2018 03:14 opisska wrote:
So having an opinion about the gameplay which is not "everything is so amazing" is negative now? Go away with such terrible attitude, we are here to discuss the games and that requires the ability to say that we don't think some play was good.



Chill. He is kinda right. Argueing a game was bad and telling what a pro should have done - beside it is clearly wrong - is just trying to bring negativity. Its not discussing the game. Beside that ur post is kinda aggressive ("go away with such a terrible attitude"). Chill


No it's not "trying to bring negativity". That's just what you "everything needs to be flowers" people read into it. I would be very disappointed if this attitude prevailed here, as it has done in so many other places of the internet.


You and I must have a very different use of Internet
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DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
October 27 2018 18:21 GMT
#350
On October 28 2018 03:19 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2018 03:17 DarkGamer wrote:
On October 28 2018 03:14 opisska wrote:
So having an opinion about the gameplay which is not "everything is so amazing" is negative now? Go away with such terrible attitude, we are here to discuss the games and that requires the ability to say that we don't think some play was good.



Chill. He is kinda right. Argueing a game was bad and telling what a pro should have done - beside it is clearly wrong - is just trying to bring negativity. Its not discussing the game. Beside that ur post is kinda aggressive ("go away with such a terrible attitude"). Chill


No it's not "trying to bring negativity". That's just what you "everything needs to be flowers" people read into it. I would be very disappointed if this attitude prevailed here, as it has done in so many other places of the internet.

So calling games bad is fine but criticizing that post is bad?
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
October 27 2018 18:22 GMT
#351
On October 28 2018 03:16 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2018 03:14 IshinShishi wrote:
On October 28 2018 03:10 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 28 2018 03:03 IshinShishi wrote:
On October 28 2018 02:57 kaykoose wrote:
On October 28 2018 02:55 IshinShishi wrote:
still waiting for one good game in the tournament, the overall level has been pretty bad


Uh... What about the game we just watched?

pretty bad play by dark, he overvalued his lings, should've just kept throwing his army with his 4k bank instead of watching showtime mass carriers.

That would've been horrible, Showtime was set up too well

meh, it was still better than waiting, forcing showtime to multitask was his best option and he had the bank to do it, showtime was quite behind in eco for a while.

throwing low-tech armies in fortified maxed protoss positions does nothing - Dark was just a little bit too sloppy with the engagements and transitioned too late but his gameplan wasn't bad

from the 13:00 mark forward dark had a few minutes to try the multitasking route, instead he went for a full blown undecisive engagement that did nothing, go watch it again, that should've been a multipronged attack Serral style.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15972 Posts
October 27 2018 18:22 GMT
#352
On October 28 2018 03:20 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2018 03:14 opisska wrote:
So having an opinion about the gameplay which is not "everything is so amazing" is negative now? Go away with such terrible attitude, we are here to discuss the games and that requires the ability to say that we don't think some play was good.

Are you kidding me, there have been 8 best of 3s so far between the top players, commentated by the best talent, and after the best game of the tourney the troll comes here to complain how not fun it is, and there hasnt been literally A SINGLE GOOD GAME, and I have the terrible attitude? Go to the store and buy a reality check.

before the last game saying there hasn't been a good game isn't a controversial opinion. I liked the last game but I don't think disliking it is trolling/trying to bring negativity.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15972 Posts
October 27 2018 18:23 GMT
#353
On October 28 2018 03:22 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2018 03:16 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 28 2018 03:14 IshinShishi wrote:
On October 28 2018 03:10 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 28 2018 03:03 IshinShishi wrote:
On October 28 2018 02:57 kaykoose wrote:
On October 28 2018 02:55 IshinShishi wrote:
still waiting for one good game in the tournament, the overall level has been pretty bad


Uh... What about the game we just watched?

pretty bad play by dark, he overvalued his lings, should've just kept throwing his army with his 4k bank instead of watching showtime mass carriers.

That would've been horrible, Showtime was set up too well

meh, it was still better than waiting, forcing showtime to multitask was his best option and he had the bank to do it, showtime was quite behind in eco for a while.

throwing low-tech armies in fortified maxed protoss positions does nothing - Dark was just a little bit too sloppy with the engagements and transitioned too late but his gameplan wasn't bad

from the 13:00 mark forward dark had a few minutes to try the multitasking route, instead he went for a full blown undecisive engagement that did nothing, go watch it again, that should've been a multipronged attack Serral style.

that's what I mean, his sloppy engagements lost him the game
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
October 27 2018 18:23 GMT
#354
On October 28 2018 03:21 DBooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2018 03:19 opisska wrote:
On October 28 2018 03:17 DarkGamer wrote:
On October 28 2018 03:14 opisska wrote:
So having an opinion about the gameplay which is not "everything is so amazing" is negative now? Go away with such terrible attitude, we are here to discuss the games and that requires the ability to say that we don't think some play was good.



Chill. He is kinda right. Argueing a game was bad and telling what a pro should have done - beside it is clearly wrong - is just trying to bring negativity. Its not discussing the game. Beside that ur post is kinda aggressive ("go away with such a terrible attitude"). Chill


No it's not "trying to bring negativity". That's just what you "everything needs to be flowers" people read into it. I would be very disappointed if this attitude prevailed here, as it has done in so many other places of the internet.

So calling games bad is fine but criticizing that post is bad?


Disagreeing with the poster's opinion on the game (and what the players should have done) is welcome and exactly what should happen, criticizing it for "negativity" is discussing form over substance and trying to silence an opinion without touching its substance, the worst enemies of any discussion.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
October 27 2018 18:23 GMT
#355
On October 28 2018 03:19 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2018 03:17 DarkGamer wrote:
On October 28 2018 03:14 opisska wrote:
So having an opinion about the gameplay which is not "everything is so amazing" is negative now? Go away with such terrible attitude, we are here to discuss the games and that requires the ability to say that we don't think some play was good.



Chill. He is kinda right. Argueing a game was bad and telling what a pro should have done - beside it is clearly wrong - is just trying to bring negativity. Its not discussing the game. Beside that ur post is kinda aggressive ("go away with such a terrible attitude"). Chill


No it's not "trying to bring negativity". That's just what you "everything needs to be flowers" people read into it. I would be very disappointed if this attitude prevailed here, as it has done in so many other places of the internet.

Jesus, you re unhinged.
The internet is filled with places where everything is all about positivity? From which parallel universe were you warped in?

If one couldnt enjoy a single game out of the 20ish that has been played by the best, commentated by the best, then what the hell is he doing here?
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
October 27 2018 18:24 GMT
#356
That was really bad
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
October 27 2018 18:25 GMT
#357
On October 28 2018 03:23 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2018 03:21 DBooN wrote:
On October 28 2018 03:19 opisska wrote:
On October 28 2018 03:17 DarkGamer wrote:
On October 28 2018 03:14 opisska wrote:
So having an opinion about the gameplay which is not "everything is so amazing" is negative now? Go away with such terrible attitude, we are here to discuss the games and that requires the ability to say that we don't think some play was good.



Chill. He is kinda right. Argueing a game was bad and telling what a pro should have done - beside it is clearly wrong - is just trying to bring negativity. Its not discussing the game. Beside that ur post is kinda aggressive ("go away with such a terrible attitude"). Chill


No it's not "trying to bring negativity". That's just what you "everything needs to be flowers" people read into it. I would be very disappointed if this attitude prevailed here, as it has done in so many other places of the internet.

So calling games bad is fine but criticizing that post is bad?


Disagreeing with the poster's opinion on the game (and what the players should have done) is welcome and exactly what should happen, criticizing it for "negativity" is discussing form over substance and trying to silence an opinion without touching its substance, the worst enemies of any discussion.

You might want to reply to the particular post that you disliked then. Most responses were criticizing the substance of the post.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15972 Posts
October 27 2018 18:26 GMT
#358
On October 28 2018 03:25 DBooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2018 03:23 opisska wrote:
On October 28 2018 03:21 DBooN wrote:
On October 28 2018 03:19 opisska wrote:
On October 28 2018 03:17 DarkGamer wrote:
On October 28 2018 03:14 opisska wrote:
So having an opinion about the gameplay which is not "everything is so amazing" is negative now? Go away with such terrible attitude, we are here to discuss the games and that requires the ability to say that we don't think some play was good.



Chill. He is kinda right. Argueing a game was bad and telling what a pro should have done - beside it is clearly wrong - is just trying to bring negativity. Its not discussing the game. Beside that ur post is kinda aggressive ("go away with such a terrible attitude"). Chill


No it's not "trying to bring negativity". That's just what you "everything needs to be flowers" people read into it. I would be very disappointed if this attitude prevailed here, as it has done in so many other places of the internet.

So calling games bad is fine but criticizing that post is bad?


Disagreeing with the poster's opinion on the game (and what the players should have done) is welcome and exactly what should happen, criticizing it for "negativity" is discussing form over substance and trying to silence an opinion without touching its substance, the worst enemies of any discussion.

You might want to reply to the particular post that you disliked then. Most responses were criticizing the substance of the post.


On October 28 2018 03:09 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2018 03:03 IshinShishi wrote:
On October 28 2018 02:57 kaykoose wrote:
On October 28 2018 02:55 IshinShishi wrote:
still waiting for one good game in the tournament, the overall level has been pretty bad


Uh... What about the game we just watched?

pretty bad play by dark, he overvalued his lings, should've just kept throwing his army with his 4k bank instead of watching showtime mass carriers.

The clueless, random, uninformed and ill-willed negativity present at TL lr threads never seizes to amaze me.

Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
October 27 2018 18:26 GMT
#359
On October 28 2018 03:25 DBooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2018 03:23 opisska wrote:
On October 28 2018 03:21 DBooN wrote:
On October 28 2018 03:19 opisska wrote:
On October 28 2018 03:17 DarkGamer wrote:
On October 28 2018 03:14 opisska wrote:
So having an opinion about the gameplay which is not "everything is so amazing" is negative now? Go away with such terrible attitude, we are here to discuss the games and that requires the ability to say that we don't think some play was good.



Chill. He is kinda right. Argueing a game was bad and telling what a pro should have done - beside it is clearly wrong - is just trying to bring negativity. Its not discussing the game. Beside that ur post is kinda aggressive ("go away with such a terrible attitude"). Chill


No it's not "trying to bring negativity". That's just what you "everything needs to be flowers" people read into it. I would be very disappointed if this attitude prevailed here, as it has done in so many other places of the internet.

So calling games bad is fine but criticizing that post is bad?


Disagreeing with the poster's opinion on the game (and what the players should have done) is welcome and exactly what should happen, criticizing it for "negativity" is discussing form over substance and trying to silence an opinion without touching its substance, the worst enemies of any discussion.

You might want to reply to the particular post that you disliked then. Most responses were criticizing the substance of the post.


I was referring to:

On October 28 2018 03:09 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2018 03:03 IshinShishi wrote:
On October 28 2018 02:57 kaykoose wrote:
On October 28 2018 02:55 IshinShishi wrote:
still waiting for one good game in the tournament, the overall level has been pretty bad


Uh... What about the game we just watched?

pretty bad play by dark, he overvalued his lings, should've just kept throwing his army with his 4k bank instead of watching showtime mass carriers.

The clueless, random, uninformed and ill-willed negativity present at TL lr threads never seizes to amaze me.


I did not quote it full, but I thing the reference to "negativity" was pretty clearly related to that particular post and looking at the page, there is no room for any confusion.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44502 Posts
October 27 2018 18:28 GMT
#360
Forcefielding Zerg out of their main base... WoL Protosses are happy
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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