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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 24 2018 17:02 GMT
#61
Three seminifinalists from the last GSL Code S in one group. Gonna be good.
asongdotnet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1060 Posts
October 24 2018 17:24 GMT
#62
Wish they would allow people to come into the studios to watch the ro32...
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
October 24 2018 17:36 GMT
#63
I have liquibet-ed Maru to not make it out of the group stage.

Let the hype begin!
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
agsub
Profile Joined May 2012
Singapore368 Posts
October 25 2018 12:13 GMT
#64
Go Maru and Serral!
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7142 Posts
October 25 2018 13:42 GMT
#65
Repping ENCE LETS GO SERRAL
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-25 13:44:45
October 25 2018 13:44 GMT
#66
On October 25 2018 22:42 Luolis wrote:
Repping ENCE LETS GO SERRAL


I have the feeling Drunk Santa is not going to cut it this time. Anyone having a Heroin Overdosed Undregoing Emergency Quadruple Amputation GIFs?
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
October 25 2018 15:10 GMT
#67
Serral is either gonna rekt all or get rekt himself. No middleground
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
spoonmaster
Profile Joined May 2012
United States347 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-25 15:39:25
October 25 2018 15:38 GMT
#68
On October 25 2018 02:24 asongdotnet wrote:
Wish they would allow people to come into the studios to watch the ro32...

They do but the stipulations are kind of odd, here's the link if you want tickets:

Info: https://starcraft2.com/en-us/news/21757770
Tickets: https://www.axs.com/series/6493/blizzcon-opening-week-tickets?skin=blizzardarena
Kalera
Profile Joined January 2018
United States338 Posts
October 25 2018 15:51 GMT
#69
On October 26 2018 00:38 spoonmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2018 02:24 asongdotnet wrote:
Wish they would allow people to come into the studios to watch the ro32...

They do but the stipulations are kind of odd, here's the link if you want tickets:

Info: https://starcraft2.com/en-us/news/21757770
Tickets: https://www.axs.com/series/6493/blizzcon-opening-week-tickets?skin=blizzardarena


Trouble is they are playing/filming the Ro32 in a small side studio without room for an audience. Meanwhile, WoW/Heroes get to use the main stage of the Blizzard Arena.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
October 25 2018 16:10 GMT
#70
One thing to commend the organizers for is the seeding. I honesty wouldn't know how to seed 4-man groups. Obviously putting two good players and two bad ones would work considering two get through, but I would say this is even better (they put the best/worst and two in the middle in the extremal groups) because it makes sure the top players don't get any other top opponents. But the specific algorithm, with two independent rankings, is still quite clever.

The seeding also increases foreigner chances, but I am not afraid!
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
October 25 2018 16:25 GMT
#71
Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeb
very illegal and very uncool
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
October 25 2018 16:39 GMT
#72
EU zerg > Korean terran
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
October 25 2018 17:00 GMT
#73
On October 26 2018 01:10 opisska wrote:
One thing to commend the organizers for is the seeding. I honesty wouldn't know how to seed 4-man groups. Obviously putting two good players and two bad ones would work considering two get through, but I would say this is even better (they put the best/worst and two in the middle in the extremal groups) because it makes sure the top players don't get any other top opponents. But the specific algorithm, with two independent rankings, is still quite clever.

The seeding also increases foreigner chances, but I am not afraid!

What? How on Earth does it increase foreigners chances? This format guarantees that Koreans dont get another korean for the first round. Also, equal 2 korean 2 foreigner groups, no chances of koreans being forced to eliminate each other. This is literally the only format that allows theoretically for 8 koreans to advance
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-25 17:09:23
October 25 2018 17:09 GMT
#74
On October 26 2018 02:00 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2018 01:10 opisska wrote:
One thing to commend the organizers for is the seeding. I honesty wouldn't know how to seed 4-man groups. Obviously putting two good players and two bad ones would work considering two get through, but I would say this is even better (they put the best/worst and two in the middle in the extremal groups) because it makes sure the top players don't get any other top opponents. But the specific algorithm, with two independent rankings, is still quite clever.

The seeding also increases foreigner chances, but I am not afraid!

What? How on Earth does it increase foreigners chances? This format guarantees that Koreans dont get another korean for the first round. Also, equal 2 korean 2 foreigner groups, no chances of koreans being forced to eliminate each other. This is literally the only format that allows theoretically for 8 koreans to advance


C'mon, it would always be 2-2 groups, nothing else makes even a remote sense. Then it's groups, so it's not that important who plays whom first.

I though agree that it's quite debatable what is best for the cause of "at least some foreigner advancing". In theory, it is enough to beat just one korean, so in some sense, Zest is "wasted" on Serral, because he already has sOs for that - and they could have gone with seeding like "Maru Serral sOs Lambo", so that the two highest seeds get the two lowest and both advance, but this would all work just on paper, because the ranking is simply not some transcendent order of the skills. That considering, I think having both Zest and sOs gives Serral more chances.

It could, mind you, have been also seeded as "Maru Classic Nerchio Lambo" / "Serral Showtime Dark sOs", but I think the current seeding gives more chance to have both Serral and Showtime advancing than this alternative for example.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17126 Posts
October 25 2018 17:37 GMT
#75
I'm so pumped for this. Its really cool that the giant SC2 balance overhaul was announced just BEFORE Morhaime stepped down. Things that make you go "hmmmm". I hope this gives us 1 more amazing year of a great RTS game.

the more the entire RTS genre goes into the tank the more i cheer for SC2 as the venerable improbable underdog.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
October 25 2018 17:44 GMT
#76
On October 26 2018 02:09 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2018 02:00 Geo.Rion wrote:
On October 26 2018 01:10 opisska wrote:
One thing to commend the organizers for is the seeding. I honesty wouldn't know how to seed 4-man groups. Obviously putting two good players and two bad ones would work considering two get through, but I would say this is even better (they put the best/worst and two in the middle in the extremal groups) because it makes sure the top players don't get any other top opponents. But the specific algorithm, with two independent rankings, is still quite clever.

The seeding also increases foreigner chances, but I am not afraid!

What? How on Earth does it increase foreigners chances? This format guarantees that Koreans dont get another korean for the first round. Also, equal 2 korean 2 foreigner groups, no chances of koreans being forced to eliminate each other. This is literally the only format that allows theoretically for 8 koreans to advance


C'mon, it would always be 2-2 groups, nothing else makes even a remote sense. Then it's groups, so it's not that important who plays whom first.

I though agree that it's quite debatable what is best for the cause of "at least some foreigner advancing". In theory, it is enough to beat just one korean, so in some sense, Zest is "wasted" on Serral, because he already has sOs for that - and they could have gone with seeding like "Maru Serral sOs Lambo", so that the two highest seeds get the two lowest and both advance, but this would all work just on paper, because the ranking is simply not some transcendent order of the skills. That considering, I think having both Zest and sOs gives Serral more chances.

It could, mind you, have been also seeded as "Maru Classic Nerchio Lambo" / "Serral Showtime Dark sOs", but I think the current seeding gives more chance to have both Serral and Showtime advancing than this alternative for example.

It is very important who u play first. It s not round robin, it s Gsl format, afaik.

I dont think the pairing favours foreigners very much. I would say there are 2 pairings where the foreigners got a bit lucky in theory, but not sure it s gonna matter.

Classic got a foreign zerg, which sounds good, then again it s Nerchio, who is probably the weakest foreigner to qualify, so Clsssic shouldbe fine.

The other one is Showtime getting a PvZ, his strongest mu. But then again Dark s strongest mu is zvp as well, and he does well against foreigners in general.

Serral ofc is expected to make it out, but i wouldnt call lucky drawing the cheesiest Korean toss who s coming off of a good run.
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-25 17:49:39
October 25 2018 17:49 GMT
#77
On October 26 2018 02:44 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2018 02:09 opisska wrote:
On October 26 2018 02:00 Geo.Rion wrote:
On October 26 2018 01:10 opisska wrote:
One thing to commend the organizers for is the seeding. I honesty wouldn't know how to seed 4-man groups. Obviously putting two good players and two bad ones would work considering two get through, but I would say this is even better (they put the best/worst and two in the middle in the extremal groups) because it makes sure the top players don't get any other top opponents. But the specific algorithm, with two independent rankings, is still quite clever.

The seeding also increases foreigner chances, but I am not afraid!

What? How on Earth does it increase foreigners chances? This format guarantees that Koreans dont get another korean for the first round. Also, equal 2 korean 2 foreigner groups, no chances of koreans being forced to eliminate each other. This is literally the only format that allows theoretically for 8 koreans to advance


C'mon, it would always be 2-2 groups, nothing else makes even a remote sense. Then it's groups, so it's not that important who plays whom first.

I though agree that it's quite debatable what is best for the cause of "at least some foreigner advancing". In theory, it is enough to beat just one korean, so in some sense, Zest is "wasted" on Serral, because he already has sOs for that - and they could have gone with seeding like "Maru Serral sOs Lambo", so that the two highest seeds get the two lowest and both advance, but this would all work just on paper, because the ranking is simply not some transcendent order of the skills. That considering, I think having both Zest and sOs gives Serral more chances.

It could, mind you, have been also seeded as "Maru Classic Nerchio Lambo" / "Serral Showtime Dark sOs", but I think the current seeding gives more chance to have both Serral and Showtime advancing than this alternative for example.

But then again Dark s strongest mu is zvp as well

What.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
October 25 2018 17:52 GMT
#78
On October 26 2018 02:49 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2018 02:44 Geo.Rion wrote:
On October 26 2018 02:09 opisska wrote:
On October 26 2018 02:00 Geo.Rion wrote:
On October 26 2018 01:10 opisska wrote:
One thing to commend the organizers for is the seeding. I honesty wouldn't know how to seed 4-man groups. Obviously putting two good players and two bad ones would work considering two get through, but I would say this is even better (they put the best/worst and two in the middle in the extremal groups) because it makes sure the top players don't get any other top opponents. But the specific algorithm, with two independent rankings, is still quite clever.

The seeding also increases foreigner chances, but I am not afraid!

What? How on Earth does it increase foreigners chances? This format guarantees that Koreans dont get another korean for the first round. Also, equal 2 korean 2 foreigner groups, no chances of koreans being forced to eliminate each other. This is literally the only format that allows theoretically for 8 koreans to advance


C'mon, it would always be 2-2 groups, nothing else makes even a remote sense. Then it's groups, so it's not that important who plays whom first.

I though agree that it's quite debatable what is best for the cause of "at least some foreigner advancing". In theory, it is enough to beat just one korean, so in some sense, Zest is "wasted" on Serral, because he already has sOs for that - and they could have gone with seeding like "Maru Serral sOs Lambo", so that the two highest seeds get the two lowest and both advance, but this would all work just on paper, because the ranking is simply not some transcendent order of the skills. That considering, I think having both Zest and sOs gives Serral more chances.

It could, mind you, have been also seeded as "Maru Classic Nerchio Lambo" / "Serral Showtime Dark sOs", but I think the current seeding gives more chance to have both Serral and Showtime advancing than this alternative for example.

But then again Dark s strongest mu is zvp as well

What.

Well that s my bad, I relied on memory, didn't check stats. Indeed it s not his best stat wise. What I wrote still stands, those 2 are the luckier foreign draws and I'm not sure it s gonna work out for them even so
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
October 25 2018 19:39 GMT
#79
On October 26 2018 02:52 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2018 02:49 Fango wrote:
On October 26 2018 02:44 Geo.Rion wrote:
On October 26 2018 02:09 opisska wrote:
On October 26 2018 02:00 Geo.Rion wrote:
On October 26 2018 01:10 opisska wrote:
One thing to commend the organizers for is the seeding. I honesty wouldn't know how to seed 4-man groups. Obviously putting two good players and two bad ones would work considering two get through, but I would say this is even better (they put the best/worst and two in the middle in the extremal groups) because it makes sure the top players don't get any other top opponents. But the specific algorithm, with two independent rankings, is still quite clever.

The seeding also increases foreigner chances, but I am not afraid!

What? How on Earth does it increase foreigners chances? This format guarantees that Koreans dont get another korean for the first round. Also, equal 2 korean 2 foreigner groups, no chances of koreans being forced to eliminate each other. This is literally the only format that allows theoretically for 8 koreans to advance


C'mon, it would always be 2-2 groups, nothing else makes even a remote sense. Then it's groups, so it's not that important who plays whom first.

I though agree that it's quite debatable what is best for the cause of "at least some foreigner advancing". In theory, it is enough to beat just one korean, so in some sense, Zest is "wasted" on Serral, because he already has sOs for that - and they could have gone with seeding like "Maru Serral sOs Lambo", so that the two highest seeds get the two lowest and both advance, but this would all work just on paper, because the ranking is simply not some transcendent order of the skills. That considering, I think having both Zest and sOs gives Serral more chances.

It could, mind you, have been also seeded as "Maru Cllassic Nerchio Lambo" / "Serral Showtime Dark sOs", but I think the current seeding gives more chance to have both Serral and Showtime advancing than this alternative for example.

But then again Dark s strongest mu is zvp as well

What.

Well that s my bad, I relied on memory, didn't check stats. Indeed it s not his best stat wise. What I wrote still stands, those 2 are the luckier foreign draws and I'm not sure it s gonna work out for them even so

For your defense he used to have a sick zvp for the longuest time
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JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-25 20:58:36
October 25 2018 20:29 GMT
#80
Poor Lambo and Heromarine, I don't see them winning even one series. Out of all the foreigners I feel like Serral and Special do have the best chances to advance.

Group A: Maru, TY
Group B: Serral, sOs
Group C: Stats, Dark (maybe Showtime although his chances are slim)
Group D: Rogue, Classic (or Special).

... actually the more I think about it, Special has a decent chance making it out of his group.
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