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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-27 00:58:21
October 27 2018 00:57 GMT
#1421
Funny how bad the Protoss or terrans players look when they lose but not the zergs.

Look at TY vs Neeb / sOs vs Serral , then Lambo vs Maru.
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JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-27 01:07:37
October 27 2018 01:06 GMT
#1422
On October 27 2018 09:57 DieuCure wrote:
Funny how bad the Protoss or terrans players look when they lose but not the zergs.

Look at TY vs Neeb / sOs vs Serral , then Lambo vs Maru.


This doesn't make any sense. Neeb destroyed TY and sOs defeated himself (not tanking anything away from Serral!). Lambo experienced the worst beatdown of all of them. TY did not look worse than the Lambo.
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5586 Posts
October 27 2018 01:08 GMT
#1423
On October 27 2018 09:32 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 07:23 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 27 2018 07:20 F1rstAssau1t wrote:
On October 27 2018 07:09 Fango wrote:
If anyone cares the broadcast today was 6 hours 10 mintues long, got about 2 hours 4 minutes of gameplay.

This is getting like the NFL, horrible.

I mean it's not really their fault. They need to stick to the schedule and the games were over super quickly.

There have been bo3s that lasted as long as all 13 games today


Just when I had finally forgotten about Mana vs Firecake...

My favourite was Lillekanin vs. Zhugeliang.
don't wall off against random
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
October 27 2018 01:10 GMT
#1424
On October 27 2018 07:46 Luolis wrote:
All these delays could be avoided if they just had two different setups, so the next players could setup while the last series is on


The technology just isn't there
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
October 27 2018 02:32 GMT
#1425
On October 27 2018 09:43 ionONE wrote:
No fresh air with new formats, very surface level talk on the "round table" the hub for deep talk in theory. (Whats do you think about player x, oh i think he has some kind of chance to win this am i right Y, goes to next caster.)


Yeah, for the amount of downtime and the amount of people they bring in to talk about these games you'd think they could have a bit more to say. Planned segments if that's what it takes. Anything, really.
Kalera
Profile Joined January 2018
United States338 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-27 03:14:11
October 27 2018 03:12 GMT
#1426
Pyeongchang had some nice well-structured analysis if I recall, with a display of the game they could draw over. It just felt a bit like filler today.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
October 27 2018 03:19 GMT
#1427
On October 27 2018 11:32 negativedge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 09:43 ionONE wrote:
No fresh air with new formats, very surface level talk on the "round table" the hub for deep talk in theory. (Whats do you think about player x, oh i think he has some kind of chance to win this am i right Y, goes to next caster.)


Yeah, for the amount of downtime and the amount of people they bring in to talk about these games you'd think they could have a bit more to say. Planned segments if that's what it takes. Anything, really.

They should do pre planned replay analysis like if Maru has to play a terran next have the pannel load up a particular game of TY-Maru gsl final and talk a bit about that. It would be a lot more interesting then only talking about the player and at least I feel like it should not be that complex.
It would also be a time to have in dept analysis of sc2 game that you can't always do while your casting, like the in dept thought process behind certain builds or in game decision, for exemple what was the proxy marauder-cyclone trying to catch punish and what could have been the best reaction. It's always a missed opportunity to have some of the greatest mind in Starcraft 2 at an event and not gave them time to explain what most of us can't see.
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jjmmtt
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
October 27 2018 03:41 GMT
#1428
Man these WCS games are bad. Is it just how SC2 is right now? I mean, they were really one sided, they were all over super quickly before it even got to the mid game most of the time and more than that, they were just boring to watch really. Is it because there's no comeback mechanics? Do units die too fast? Something's going on...
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
October 27 2018 04:31 GMT
#1429
On October 27 2018 12:41 jjmmtt wrote:
Man these WCS games are bad. Is it just how SC2 is right now? I mean, they were really one sided, they were all over super quickly before it even got to the mid game most of the time and more than that, they were just boring to watch really. Is it because there's no comeback mechanics? Do units die too fast? Something's going on...

It was just luck plus a lot of matches having one player heavily favoured.
Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-27 04:52:37
October 27 2018 04:52 GMT
#1430
Call it Cheese Craft 2. Honestly, most of the games are pretty OK except the sOs vs Serral series. That series makes me realize we should all be thankful that sOs didn't make Global Finals in the past two years. What a garbage player. So outdated, overly cheesy, horrible mechanics. Just wish he will get eliminated quickly so we can watch some decent games and perhaps Artosis and Tasteless can finally stop overhyping sOs any chance they get.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
October 27 2018 04:57 GMT
#1431
On October 27 2018 07:23 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 07:20 F1rstAssau1t wrote:
On October 27 2018 07:09 Fango wrote:
If anyone cares the broadcast today was 6 hours 10 mintues long, got about 2 hours 4 minutes of gameplay.

This is getting like the NFL, horrible.

I mean it's not really their fault. They need to stick to the schedule and the games were over super quickly.

There have been bo3s that lasted as long as all 13 games today

You mean a single map?
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Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
October 27 2018 05:21 GMT
#1432
Hi guys, sorry for the delay. I see Serral advanced untouched as expected. Nice to see Neeb take down TY as well.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
October 27 2018 06:11 GMT
#1433
The Terran meta is god awful. Seeing Maru proxy every single game is boring af.

What the hell. I am a bit out of touch from SC2 but I always tune in to Blizzcon and these games are just boring.

Seeing proxy rax being completely normal opener is bad for the game. I miss the TvP mexican stand offs, big armies looking at each other and the the big fight.

At least a non Korean is actually the favourite to win. I hope this is the turning point where they open up WCS. A bit late but better late than ever.

TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
October 27 2018 07:54 GMT
#1434
On October 27 2018 07:23 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 07:20 F1rstAssau1t wrote:
On October 27 2018 07:09 Fango wrote:
If anyone cares the broadcast today was 6 hours 10 mintues long, got about 2 hours 4 minutes of gameplay.

This is getting like the NFL, horrible.

I mean it's not really their fault. They need to stick to the schedule and the games were over super quickly.

There have been bo3s that lasted as long as all 13 games today

But we were 1 hour behind the schedule.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3423 Posts
October 27 2018 07:57 GMT
#1435
This must have been the worst tournament in terms of organization this year. SO MUCH DOWNTIME (with so many commentators around as well, which boggles my mind), so few games (bo5 next year, please).
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17984 Posts
October 27 2018 08:17 GMT
#1436
I watched the matches, but wasn't even hyped enough to come here and mention how unhyped I was. They are trying to stretch this out so badly, and that interviewer is really bad. How are these blizzcon production values?
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
October 27 2018 08:39 GMT
#1437
On October 27 2018 06:53 Fango wrote:
Can someone who understands PvZ explain that to me? Even if Zest scouted how many roaches he would have died right?


Late to the party here, but if you identify the all-in early enough you can set up shield batteries, cannons and sentries while chronoing void rays. I've seen Zest hold this sort of all in with the same build before. Just didn't see it coming at all this game.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12874 Posts
October 27 2018 09:08 GMT
#1438
On October 27 2018 15:11 papaz wrote:
The Terran meta is god awful. Seeing Maru proxy every single game is boring af.

What the hell. I am a bit out of touch from SC2 but I always tune in to Blizzcon and these games are just boring.

Seeing proxy rax being completely normal opener is bad for the game. I miss the TvP mexican stand offs, big armies looking at each other and the the big fight.

At least a non Korean is actually the favourite to win. I hope this is the turning point where they open up WCS. A bit late but better late than ever.


If you don't do that you get abused easily like heromarine against Zest tho, so it'll be like that for the rest of BlizzCon probably.

TY vs Neeb rematch will be funny, I wonder what TY will have in store this time.
WriterMaru
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
October 27 2018 10:11 GMT
#1439
On October 27 2018 17:39 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 06:53 Fango wrote:
Can someone who understands PvZ explain that to me? Even if Zest scouted how many roaches he would have died right?


Late to the party here, but if you identify the all-in early enough you can set up shield batteries, cannons and sentries while chronoing void rays. I've seen Zest hold this sort of all in with the same build before. Just didn't see it coming at all this game.

yep, you need batteries and sim-city at the third. Px+Chragelot (which means delayed immortals) is one of the weakest unit combos when it comes to holding an allin, but it s definitely still doable.
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
leublix
Profile Joined May 2017
493 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-27 10:19:35
October 27 2018 10:18 GMT
#1440
On October 27 2018 09:43 ionONE wrote:
I lost it in the break leading up to the maru winner match .. i fell asleep.

The studio atmosphere is really dull, 8? friends gathered to talk about starcraft just like the 8 years before. No fresh air with new formats, very surface level talk on the "round table" the hub for deep talk in theory. (Whats do you think about player x, oh i think he has some kind of chance to win this am i right Y, goes to next caster.)

Remember the weather man from earlier starcraft events, talking about a map specific thing we should look for on a big screen (example: where does maru place his hidden buildings usually)

I wanted to rant about the same thing. It's disappointing that there is no in depth talk about strategy. For fucks sake, even tennis has more strategy analysis.
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