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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 23 2018 10:12 GMT
#461
On June 23 2018 19:06 seemsgood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2018 18:55 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 23 2018 18:54 Tyrhanius wrote:
5/7 GSL were won by Terrans on LOTV and each time we heard "Byun is a god", "Gumiho is best", "Innovation best players of the world", now it's just Maru's turn.

Maru could have dominated the scene from the start of LOTV if he was really above every players. He did not.

It's just the meta right now favors his agressive playstyle, and probably the other kor play worst due to region lock/kespa team disbands.

Great theory but he said he practices much harder this year than before so I guess that's the reason for his results.

you wouldn't see this kind of result in final if SKT,KT...ect.. were still a thing.i really dislike thier disbanding decision for a reason
JA players don't simply become good for no reason you know

Well you say that but guys like soO and INno actually did much better the year SKT disbanded. It varies from player to player.

The only Jin Air player who's done drastically better after the disbanding was Rogue. The others have been getting similar results to before. sOs, Creator, and Cure are actually doing worse. Maru is doing better than his HotS self but not by a huge amount.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
June 23 2018 10:16 GMT
#462
On June 23 2018 19:11 Charoisaur wrote:
If I'm correct Maru has also narrowly surpassed Jaedong as Starcrafts top earner

Are accounting inflation as well?
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
June 23 2018 10:20 GMT
#463
On June 23 2018 19:10 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2018 19:06 seemsgood wrote:
On June 23 2018 18:55 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 23 2018 18:54 Tyrhanius wrote:
5/7 GSL were won by Terrans on LOTV and each time we heard "Byun is a god", "Gumiho is best", "Innovation best players of the world", now it's just Maru's turn.

Maru could have dominated the scene from the start of LOTV if he was really above every players. He did not.

It's just the meta right now favors his agressive playstyle, and probably the other kor play worst due to region lock/kespa team disbands.

Great theory but he said he practices much harder this year than before so I guess that's the reason for his results.

you wouldn't see this kind of result in final if SKT,KT...ect.. were still a thing.i really dislike thier disbanding decision for a reason
JA players don't simply become good for no reason you know


sOs Trap Cure Creator arent overperforming, Maru/Rogue weren't too good in 2017 ( except Rogue in the last half of the year ).

well they have a coach and he knows what's up.When they play a tournament,they creat a much better pratice environment .Teamless players are showing thier sigh of exhaustion in this race.I don't think they can keep up even after the next big patch

and do not count sOs out
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 23 2018 10:33 GMT
#464
Back2Back GSL Champion

Maru has cleaned sweep so much this year!

IEM Season XII - World Championship - Semi Finals
World Electronic Sports Games 2017 - Winner
2018 Global StarCraft II League Season 1/Code S - Winner
2018 Global StarCraft II League Season 2/Code S - Winner

Netting him a cool $300,000 at the half way point of the year! Can he dominate and take home a blizzcon title? Three GSL championships in a row?

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FrashQ
Profile Joined November 2011
53 Posts
June 23 2018 11:04 GMT
#465
On June 23 2018 19:33 Pandemona wrote:
Back2Back GSL Champion

Maru has cleaned sweep so much this year!

IEM Season XII - World Championship - Semi Finals
World Electronic Sports Games 2017 - Winner
2018 Global StarCraft II League Season 1/Code S - Winner
2018 Global StarCraft II League Season 2/Code S - Winner

Netting him a cool $300,000 at the half way point of the year! Can he dominate and take home a blizzcon title? Three GSL championships in a row?



For sure. The only ones that have any chance to stop him are Rogue or TY maybe. TvP he's untouchable.
Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
June 23 2018 11:41 GMT
#466
On June 23 2018 18:37 Charoisaur wrote:
too early for the b- word?


For me a win or a 2nd place in season 3 might do it.

Alternatively a top 8 next season and a win in the Global finals.
Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-23 11:50:09
June 23 2018 11:45 GMT
#467
On June 23 2018 18:42 Waxangel wrote:
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On June 23 2018 18:38 Kommander wrote:
On June 23 2018 18:37 Charoisaur wrote:
too early for the b- word?


Maru winning at least the next GSL and perhaps Blizzcon seals it for me. Others might have higher standards and require having Maru dominate next year too.


Bonjwa is the stupidest thing the Korean BW community ever made and I hate it.

But if I had to entertain the idea for a second, if the community didn't allow Jaedong the title for his 2009~2010 run, then Maru doesn't deserve it for his first-half 2018 performances.


You just hate fun

On June 23 2018 19:01 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2018 18:57 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 23 2018 18:54 seemsgood wrote:
the problem of "bonjwa" term is you guys can't reach a same agreement.Without a standard arguing about this is pointless.

Right but I think it's pretty cool that we have a player good enough that there's discussion about it.
We don't have that often in SC2.


no it's actually incredibly lame that the foreign community obsesses over it when people stopped taking it seriously in Korea once the fad passed in 2010~2011


Now thats just gatekeeping

But anyway I'll be having fun discussing the b- word
DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
June 23 2018 12:05 GMT
#468
Congrats on the win Maru, another title. He's making up for lost time!. Comiserations to Zest who did well to get to the finals.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
June 23 2018 12:09 GMT
#469
Maru the fucking god!!
I missed it fuck I forgot about it

WriterMaru
neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
June 23 2018 12:53 GMT
#470
On June 23 2018 19:04 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2018 19:01 Waxangel wrote:
On June 23 2018 18:57 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 23 2018 18:54 seemsgood wrote:
the problem of "bonjwa" term is you guys can't reach a same agreement.Without a standard arguing about this is pointless.

Right but I think it's pretty cool that we have a player good enough that there's discussion about it.
We don't have that often in SC2.


no it's actually incredibly lame that the foreign community obsesses over it when people stopped taking it seriously in Korea once the fad passed in 2010~2011


bonjwa is old meta, now its GOAT meta.

Show nested quote +
On June 23 2018 19:03 Charoisaur wrote:
No Bonjwa confirmed, Zest is just bad





"Wack" - Hannibal Buress


Let Maru win another GSL and I think it'll be pretty hard to get him off the GOAT train. Whatever label we use, Maru may be well on his way to being the Flash of SC2. Guess we'll have to see how it pans out, but my guess would be that Maru will win another season.

Rather than "God", I think of Maru as some kind of Lovecraftian cosmic monster, like Cthulu
Maru | Life | PartinG || I guess I like aggressive control freaks... || Reynor will one day reign supreme || *reyn supreme
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
June 23 2018 13:00 GMT
#471
GOAT

there
I Protoss winner, could it be?
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2754 Posts
June 23 2018 13:34 GMT
#472
Bonjwa or goat in this very reduced korean scene seems like a big overstatement, I don't enven rank MAru on the top 3 T considering the opposition. Except for jin air, all the teams disbanded since 2 years, there are no fresh blood at all, a lot of retirement, Maru is very strong but come on, Zest was way better before, as it has been said, in the long run, the jin air players benefit from their training, the direct emulation, the coach ext. Their mechanics (especially Rogue and Maru) are always on top while the others can slump pretty hard.
Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
June 23 2018 14:22 GMT
#473
On June 23 2018 22:34 stilt wrote:
Bonjwa or goat in this very reduced korean scene seems like a big overstatement, I don't enven rank MAru on the top 3 T considering the opposition. Except for jin air, all the teams disbanded since 2 years, there are no fresh blood at all, a lot of retirement, Maru is very strong but come on, Zest was way better before, as it has been said, in the long run, the jin air players benefit from their training, the direct emulation, the coach ext. Their mechanics (especially Rogue and Maru) are always on top while the others can slump pretty hard.


So who are top 3 T then? LOL
Obamarauder
Profile Joined June 2015
697 Posts
June 23 2018 14:32 GMT
#474
On June 23 2018 23:22 Aunvilgodess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2018 22:34 stilt wrote:
Bonjwa or goat in this very reduced korean scene seems like a big overstatement, I don't enven rank MAru on the top 3 T considering the opposition. Except for jin air, all the teams disbanded since 2 years, there are no fresh blood at all, a lot of retirement, Maru is very strong but come on, Zest was way better before, as it has been said, in the long run, the jin air players benefit from their training, the direct emulation, the coach ext. Their mechanics (especially Rogue and Maru) are always on top while the others can slump pretty hard.


So who are top 3 T then? LOL


probably something like avilo, ruff and upatree
neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
June 23 2018 14:52 GMT
#475
On June 23 2018 23:32 Obamarauder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2018 23:22 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On June 23 2018 22:34 stilt wrote:
Bonjwa or goat in this very reduced korean scene seems like a big overstatement, I don't enven rank MAru on the top 3 T considering the opposition. Except for jin air, all the teams disbanded since 2 years, there are no fresh blood at all, a lot of retirement, Maru is very strong but come on, Zest was way better before, as it has been said, in the long run, the jin air players benefit from their training, the direct emulation, the coach ext. Their mechanics (especially Rogue and Maru) are always on top while the others can slump pretty hard.


So who are top 3 T then? LOL


probably something like avilo, ruff and upatree


The top 3 spots are all left blank. Nobody is good enough.
Maru | Life | PartinG || I guess I like aggressive control freaks... || Reynor will one day reign supreme || *reyn supreme
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
June 23 2018 15:15 GMT
#476
I wish Blizzard would work on improving TvP, even though the balance is alright it's just not very interesting to watch because it's always early aggression now and usually ends with a single timing attack.
Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
June 23 2018 15:55 GMT
#477
As ive always said, terran can be pretty op in the right hands, but it takes mad skills.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 23 2018 16:10 GMT
#478
Lmao after he beat best PvT 4-1 did anyone think zest had a chance?
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stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2754 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-23 17:26:22
June 23 2018 17:23 GMT
#479
On June 23 2018 23:22 Aunvilgodess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2018 22:34 stilt wrote:
Bonjwa or goat in this very reduced korean scene seems like a big overstatement, I don't enven rank MAru on the top 3 T considering the opposition. Except for jin air, all the teams disbanded since 2 years, there are no fresh blood at all, a lot of retirement, Maru is very strong but come on, Zest was way better before, as it has been said, in the long run, the jin air players benefit from their training, the direct emulation, the coach ext. Their mechanics (especially Rogue and Maru) are always on top while the others can slump pretty hard.


So who are top 3 T then? LOL


Mvp, inno and Taeja impressed me way more. "LOL"
The same can be said about Life who will always surclass Rogue.
2 years old poster, you must have no idea of whom I'm talking.
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
June 23 2018 18:25 GMT
#480
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