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Poll: Who Advances?Maru & Dear (28) 55% Zanster & Bunny (14) 27% Bunny & Maru (4) 8% Maru & Zanster (3) 6% Dear & Zanster (1) 2% Dear & Bunny (1) 2% 51 total votes Your vote: Who Advances? (Vote): Maru & Dear
(Vote): Zanster & Bunny
(Vote): Dear & Zanster
(Vote): Bunny & Maru
(Vote): Dear & Bunny
(Vote): Maru & Zanster
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Maybe I'm underestimating the difficulties in TvP and am overestimating Bunny, but this group looks like it is going to be an absolute bloodbath. With the exception of Zanster who is basically guaranteed to finish 4th, anyone in this group can finish in any of the remaining spots.
 Maru 2 - 0  Zanster
 Dear 2 - 1 Bunny
Maru 2 - 1 Dear
Bunny 2 - 0 Zanster
Bunny 2 - 1 Dear
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Maru is a good warm up before group G
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Should be Dear + Maru easy. Bunny could in theory win against Dear, but I don't think the current state of TvP helps him.
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The results seem so obvious everyone has trolled and voted for Zanster and Bunny.
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Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
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Rest RIP in peace, Zanster. 
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Can't wait to see Maru tear the little foreigner a new asshole.
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On May 05 2018 06:20 usopsama wrote:
Can't wait to see Maru tear the little foreigner a new asshole.
He's in for a surprise when acid comes out of that asshole and burn his marine.
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Zanster 2-0 Maru
Maru goes 2-1-1 both games and loses both medivacs.
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I wonder if Zanster will pull out any Noregret builds against Maru. After what happened to Dark/soO/Solar/Serral I doubt he feels confident in a macro game.
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On May 05 2018 06:34 Fango wrote:
I wonder if Zanstar will pull out any Noregret builds against Maru. After what happened to Dark/soO/Solar/Serral I doubt he feels confident in a macro game.
Did Noregret pull out any Noregret builds when he got destroyed in the qualifiers?
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Odds of Maru losing to Zanister are pretty close to zero, but he could actually lose to either or both of the other two, IMO. He's the favourite to come out in first, but it's not guaranteed.
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Zanster gonna beat Maru in 1st series to get everyone's hopes up and then fail to advance
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On May 05 2018 10:02 Shellshock wrote:
Zanster gonna beat Maru in 1st series to get everyone's hopes up and then fail to advance
He'll go up 1-0 in the decider match and end up losing like the other foreigners
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Looking forward to plenty of 2 rax proxy builds from Maru tonight.
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Wouldn't be too surprised if Bunny has practiced TvP exclusively for this group. He might be satisfied with letting the chips fall where they may if he wins the first match and has to play Maru. Like the TL preview said, he's pretty good in the mirror. Still think Dear will make it out, and Maru of course.
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maru vs zanster is going to be the most brutal korean-foreigner beatdown since life vs lilbow
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hahahahaha great quenstions, better answers
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Maru wanting to be TRUE O_O .
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Nice troll.
Pretty sure Chris Hemsworth is Thor AKA the handsomest man on the planet.
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Zanster's creep positioning to the north seems like it surprised Maru.
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Wow. So far this is a great macro game from both sides. I'm expecting Maru to proxy 2-rax on acid plant now.
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We in for a long night boys
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Feels like one of those games where Zerg does really well until Terran gets mass Ravens/Ghosts
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On May 05 2018 13:25 Kommander wrote:
Feels like one of those games where Zerg does really well until Terran gets mass Ravens/Ghosts
Zanster's denying and even taking Maru's sixth bases. If he manages that he's perfectly fine..
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Well nvm, Maru threw away his Ghosts lol
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Zanster's adrenaline certainly fucked him on the second fight there
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I was disappointed that Tasteless is not casting but I have to admit that Noregret is a pleasant surprise. He sounds like he really loves Starcraft. It's pretty refreshing.
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Foreigners and throwing in GSL, name a more iconic duo
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On May 05 2018 13:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Foreigners and throwing in GSL, name a more iconic duo
Koreans and winning in GSL
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On May 05 2018 13:28 Psychotikah wrote:
I was disappointed that Tasteless is not casting but I have to admit that Noregret is a pleasant surprise. He sounds like he really loves Starcraft. It's pretty refreshing.
Noregret casts when there's a foreigner from his teamhouse playing is perfect. He provides a great deal of insight on foreigners, as well as any ZvX matchup.
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Unless Maru takes more bases his economy's on a timer. Zanster's helping him out with his mediocre engagements.
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Maru is gonna win this isn't he?
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On May 05 2018 13:32 Morbidius wrote:
Maru is gonna win this isn't he?
I would bet that he will. I think Zanster has to win this game to have a shot at winning the series imo
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On May 05 2018 13:29 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 13:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Foreigners and throwing in GSL, name a more iconic duo Koreans and winning in GSL
Only because Hurricane kept Neeb out. Korea got lucky.
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This is pretty sloppy but highly entertaining!
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Zanster got too excited... i cant blame him though wp
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Overeager lategame from Zanster. Still much more competitive of a game than what I expected of him.
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On May 05 2018 13:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Wow. So far this is a great macro game from both sides. I'm expecting Maru to proxy 2-rax on acid plant now.
Still think he does this?
EDIT: NEVERMIND, HERE WE GO
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Zanster made Maru sweat a bit that game, which is respectable.
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On May 05 2018 13:42 Moobutt wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 13:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Wow. So far this is a great macro game from both sides. I'm expecting Maru to proxy 2-rax on acid plant now. Still think he does this? EDIT: NEVERMIND, HERE WE GO
 Maru does this so much in exactly this position on this map.
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On May 05 2018 13:43 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 13:42 Moobutt wrote:On May 05 2018 13:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Wow. So far this is a great macro game from both sides. I'm expecting Maru to proxy 2-rax on acid plant now. Still think he does this? EDIT: NEVERMIND, HERE WE GO Maru does this so much in exactly this position on this map.
Yeah, I wonder if he still 2 raxes if he would've lost game 1
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On May 05 2018 13:43 Moobutt wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 13:43 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On May 05 2018 13:42 Moobutt wrote:On May 05 2018 13:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Wow. So far this is a great macro game from both sides. I'm expecting Maru to proxy 2-rax on acid plant now. Still think he does this? EDIT: NEVERMIND, HERE WE GO Maru does this so much in exactly this position on this map. Yeah, I wonder if he still 2 raxes if he would've lost game 1
I think he would've 2 raxed no matter what happened in game 1 except if he bopped Zanster with the 2-1-1 or a tank push.
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This foreigner sure loves to suicide units.
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he's so bad with the vipers. He's panicking.
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Honestly really impressed with SortOf and Zanster this season. Just a little more game sense and these guys would be going places.
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Does going roach/hydra/viper against mech ever work in late game?
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very good perfomance by Zanster imo... he can make it #believe
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Maru had to work for both victories and it was great to watch. I really do think Zanster can beat Alive. He's not gonna beat Dear though.
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Just song is just the worst
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Pretty insane to see these kind of games from someone's who's roughly the 15th best foreign zerg.
On May 05 2018 14:02 iamho wrote:
Does going roach/hydra/viper against mech ever work in late game?
It's definitely a composition that's on a clock.
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On May 05 2018 14:02 iamho wrote:
Does going roach/hydra/viper against mech ever work in late game?
I feel like nothing really works well against late game mech, just things that are less terrible.
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Backwater... Let's see what Bunny has planned for the best Protoss map in the pool.
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On May 05 2018 14:09 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Backwater... Let's see what Bunny has planned for the best Protoss map in the pool.
probably a LWW series
edit: w00t thats different
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On May 05 2018 14:05 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 14:02 iamho wrote:
Does going roach/hydra/viper against mech ever work in late game? I feel like nothing really works well against late game mech, just things that are less terrible.
RHV is fine vs regular mech. It gets problematic vs mass ghost/raven.
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nice try Bunny. good games so far :D
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And Dear picked Acid Plant. 
It's probably one of the better maps for terran, but maybe Dear who opens stargate every game anyways doesn't mind it.
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C O L L O S S U S
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Two base colossus all-in. Huh. Well if it works it works.
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Dear pulls a build from the last time he was actually good
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That was student vs. Master right there.
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Rofl Maru 
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Now remove widow mine reveal after shooting.
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On May 05 2018 14:46 ByuuN wrote:
Now remove widow mine reveal after shooting.
Would be broken with no mothership core, weaker oracles on top of being the shitty gameplay it always was.
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Haven't laughed like that at a game in a while
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Maru = Audience, everytime.
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Dear is the unluckiest player on top of not being that great at this match-up relative to his peers.
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What a fantastic micro from Dear to counter this push
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Amazing storms destroying all the zealots while suiciding the army under the libs...
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Uhhhh... Dear, why would you attack under a crapton of ranged libs?
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Scarlett on blackpink and now Dear
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gg maru well played. 29 drones in the second game vs dear, LUL you know it.
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People still think that tanks are trash and not weapons of mass destruction that kill your army from off screen.
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Guess he was hoping the storms did their work faster? That was utter annihilation unfortunately.
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I am confused, is Maru really so much better than Dear, and Dear so much better than Bunny.
At first I was fuck protoss, but after that series could say same for Terran. Both losing players made many mistakes though.
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to make a strong argument against a protoss nerf. if he won that game, even blizzard couldnt have denied there is a problem with TvP. so take one for the team and throw your army into the liberators.
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On May 05 2018 15:05 StabiloBoss20 wrote:
to make a strong argument against a protoss nerf. if he won that game, even blizzard couldnt have denied there is a problem with TvP.
So that's why he threw it ?
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On May 05 2018 15:06 DieuCure wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 15:05 StabiloBoss20 wrote:
to make a strong argument against a protoss nerf. if he won that game, even blizzard couldnt have denied there is a problem with TvP. So that's why he threw it ?
Good on Dear for taking one for the team.
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On May 05 2018 15:06 DieuCure wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 15:05 StabiloBoss20 wrote:
to make a strong argument against a protoss nerf. if he won that game, even blizzard couldnt have denied there is a problem with TvP. So that's why he threw it ?
thats what i mean  and yes. i hate my balance whine. btw.. im not terran. but its disgusting to watch this matchup right now.
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On May 05 2018 15:07 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 15:06 DieuCure wrote:On May 05 2018 15:05 StabiloBoss20 wrote:
to make a strong argument against a protoss nerf. if he won that game, even blizzard couldnt have denied there is a problem with TvP. So that's why he threw it ? Good on Dear for taking one for the team.
It's fantastic how devoted Dear has been to furthering the Protoss balance cause day in and day out for years on end, even when Protoss wasn't favoured balance-wise.
He still hasn't surpassed the game where he started building manner nexi against Symbol and lost, but I'm always hoping.
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I'm new to actually posting here but derping your entire army while the camera cuts to your chargelot harass killing depots is as Dear as it gets, right?
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I do doubt it if Zanster's zerg is better than Maru's zerg.
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On May 05 2018 15:15 yht9657 wrote:I do doubt it if Zanster's zerg is better than Maru's zerg.
you ever saw maru's zerg? saw it once on stream. its ridiculous. he could probably qualify for code s with zerg as well
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Bunny should play Gumi-mech vs Dear.
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Really looked like Zanster had no way of losing this game after the doom drop, but he was so wasteful with roach/hydra following that...
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On May 05 2018 15:24 ByuuN wrote:
Bunny should play Gumi-mech vs Dear.
uThermal's also been playing some MechvP recently. Didn't look too successful so far from what I've seen though.
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Nice to have NoRegreT casting to explain the secret strat.
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On May 05 2018 15:24 Ej_ wrote:
Really looked like Zanster had no way of losing this game after the doom drop, but he was so wasteful with roach/hydra following that...
im not sure about this style against mech in general. i feeld often times zerg wins some fights here and there, but sooner of later there is a huge landslide lost and in the big picture you are falling behind.
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On May 05 2018 15:29 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Nice to have NoRegreT casting to explain the secret strat.
Even cooler when its literally the thing that everyone praised Korean teamhouse structure for being done by non Koreans
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On May 05 2018 15:30 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 15:29 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Nice to have NoRegreT casting to explain the secret strat. Even cooler when its literally the thing that everyone praised Korean teamhouse structure for being done by non Koreans
The gold expo into ling flood on 15 drones that SortOf did vs Zest last week is likely also something they came up with.
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Come on Zanster. Unity team house needs more third place Ro32 group finishes.
edit: Building cyclones at this stage is weird. I think KeeN likes to do this, but it's kinda bad imo despite the upgrade. Not that it matters.
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still not sure if mech is hilariously broken or Bunny is a much better player than I give him credit for
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On May 05 2018 15:49 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Come on Zanster. Unity team house needs more third place Ro32 group finishes.
edit: Building cyclones at this stage is weird. I think KeeN likes to do this, but it's kinda bad imo despite the upgrade. Not that it matters.
Gumiho especially likes to build cyclones for anti-air too.
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On May 05 2018 15:53 chipmonklord17 wrote:
still not sure if mech is hilariously broken or Bunny is a much better player than I give him credit for
it's zanster dude lol
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Ay, the cyclone upgrade looks dope. I'd build that too.
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On May 05 2018 15:53 chipmonklord17 wrote:
still not sure if mech is hilariously broken or Bunny is a much better player than I give him credit for
zanster has bad viper control.
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On May 05 2018 15:55 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 15:53 chipmonklord17 wrote:
still not sure if mech is hilariously broken or Bunny is a much better player than I give him credit for it's zanster dude lol
And its Bunny. We're not talking about some great master of the terran race
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It was very insightful casting, but a bit too biased in my opinion
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He is so bad that it is embarrassing to watch.
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On May 05 2018 15:56 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 15:55 Durnuu wrote:On May 05 2018 15:53 chipmonklord17 wrote:
still not sure if mech is hilariously broken or Bunny is a much better player than I give him credit for it's zanster dude lol And its Bunny. We're not talking about some great master of the terran race
Bunny would trash every foreign zerg
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On May 05 2018 15:55 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 15:53 chipmonklord17 wrote:
still not sure if mech is hilariously broken or Bunny is a much better player than I give him credit for it's zanster dude lol
He did play surprisingly well today and was even winning against Maru game 1, but yeah.
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On May 05 2018 15:56 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 15:55 Durnuu wrote:On May 05 2018 15:53 chipmonklord17 wrote:
still not sure if mech is hilariously broken or Bunny is a much better player than I give him credit for it's zanster dude lol And its Bunny. We're not talking about some great master of the terran race
No, but we're talking about a consistent Ro16 player that has always had great TvZ (although recently it's fallen off).
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On May 05 2018 15:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 15:55 Durnuu wrote:On May 05 2018 15:53 chipmonklord17 wrote:
still not sure if mech is hilariously broken or Bunny is a much better player than I give him credit for it's zanster dude lol He did play surprisingly well today and was even winning against Maru game 1, but yeah.
He looked solid in that game 1 against Maru, but even Tefel was winning against Mvp at one point in that famous comeback game :p
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on one hand zanster played really well. on the other im not sure, if his playstyle against mech can work.
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On May 05 2018 15:58 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 15:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On May 05 2018 15:55 Durnuu wrote:On May 05 2018 15:53 chipmonklord17 wrote:
still not sure if mech is hilariously broken or Bunny is a much better player than I give him credit for it's zanster dude lol He did play surprisingly well today and was even winning against Maru game 1, but yeah. He looked solid in that game 1 against Maru, but even Tefel was winning against Mvp at one point in that famous comeback game :p
Mvp had like five broken wrists at that point and it wasn't much of a macro game. Whereas Maru is currently the best terran player by a mile.
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On May 05 2018 16:01 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 15:58 Bagration wrote:On May 05 2018 15:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On May 05 2018 15:55 Durnuu wrote:On May 05 2018 15:53 chipmonklord17 wrote:
still not sure if mech is hilariously broken or Bunny is a much better player than I give him credit for it's zanster dude lol He did play surprisingly well today and was even winning against Maru game 1, but yeah. He looked solid in that game 1 against Maru, but even Tefel was winning against Mvp at one point in that famous comeback game :p Mvp had like five broken wrists at that point and it wasn't much of a macro game. Whereas Maru is currently the best terran player by a mile.
Early HotS Terran wasn't exactly the pinnacle of balance.
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On May 05 2018 15:56 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 15:56 chipmonklord17 wrote:On May 05 2018 15:55 Durnuu wrote:On May 05 2018 15:53 chipmonklord17 wrote:
still not sure if mech is hilariously broken or Bunny is a much better player than I give him credit for it's zanster dude lol And its Bunny. We're not talking about some great master of the terran race Bunny would trash every foreign zerg
Man I haven't heard Korean bias that strong since HotS. Bunny is a mid tier Korean. We are long past the era where someone at that level could trash every foreigner. Heck, Bunny couldn't trash the majority of a WCS Ro16. Looking at Leipzig bracket, the only people I would say he would dumpster are Bly, Nice, Masa, and Lambo.
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On May 05 2018 16:13 Parrek wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 15:56 Ej_ wrote:On May 05 2018 15:56 chipmonklord17 wrote:On May 05 2018 15:55 Durnuu wrote:On May 05 2018 15:53 chipmonklord17 wrote:
still not sure if mech is hilariously broken or Bunny is a much better player than I give him credit for it's zanster dude lol And its Bunny. We're not talking about some great master of the terran race Bunny would trash every foreign zerg Man I haven't heard Korean bias that strong since HotS. Bunny is a mid tier Korean. We are long past the era where someone at that level could trash every foreigner. Heck, Bunny couldn't trash the majority of a WCS Ro16. Looking at Leipzig bracket, the only people I would say he would dumpster are Bly, Nice, Masa, and Lambo.
You clearly have no idea about Bunny's TvZ level.
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On May 05 2018 16:13 Parrek wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 15:56 Ej_ wrote:On May 05 2018 15:56 chipmonklord17 wrote:On May 05 2018 15:55 Durnuu wrote:On May 05 2018 15:53 chipmonklord17 wrote:
still not sure if mech is hilariously broken or Bunny is a much better player than I give him credit for it's zanster dude lol And its Bunny. We're not talking about some great master of the terran race Bunny would trash every foreign zerg Man I haven't heard Korean bias that strong since HotS. Bunny is a mid tier Korean. We are long past the era where someone at that level could trash every foreigner. Heck, Bunny couldn't trash the majority of a WCS Ro16. Looking at Leipzig bracket, the only people I would say he would dumpster are Bly, Nice, Masa, and Lambo.
Bunny 4-0ed Serral in an online tournament earlier this year..
Guess who's the biased one here
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What happened to tasteless?
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On May 05 2018 16:16 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 16:13 Parrek wrote:On May 05 2018 15:56 Ej_ wrote:On May 05 2018 15:56 chipmonklord17 wrote:On May 05 2018 15:55 Durnuu wrote:On May 05 2018 15:53 chipmonklord17 wrote:
still not sure if mech is hilariously broken or Bunny is a much better player than I give him credit for it's zanster dude lol And its Bunny. We're not talking about some great master of the terran race Bunny would trash every foreign zerg Man I haven't heard Korean bias that strong since HotS. Bunny is a mid tier Korean. We are long past the era where someone at that level could trash every foreigner. Heck, Bunny couldn't trash the majority of a WCS Ro16. Looking at Leipzig bracket, the only people I would say he would dumpster are Bly, Nice, Masa, and Lambo. Bunny 4-0ed Serral in an online tournament earlier this year.. Guess who's the biased one here
That was last year.
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On May 05 2018 16:14 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 16:13 Parrek wrote:On May 05 2018 15:56 Ej_ wrote:On May 05 2018 15:56 chipmonklord17 wrote:On May 05 2018 15:55 Durnuu wrote:On May 05 2018 15:53 chipmonklord17 wrote:
still not sure if mech is hilariously broken or Bunny is a much better player than I give him credit for it's zanster dude lol And its Bunny. We're not talking about some great master of the terran race Bunny would trash every foreign zerg Man I haven't heard Korean bias that strong since HotS. Bunny is a mid tier Korean. We are long past the era where someone at that level could trash every foreigner. Heck, Bunny couldn't trash the majority of a WCS Ro16. Looking at Leipzig bracket, the only people I would say he would dumpster are Bly, Nice, Masa, and Lambo. You clearly have no idea about Bunny's TvZ level.
Still a bit disingenuous to say he'd trash every foreign zerg when I watched him lose to Elazer doing basic ravager attacks earlier this week.
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Dear's still probably going to win, but damn he's been messing up in some funny ways this game
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On May 05 2018 16:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 16:14 Durnuu wrote:On May 05 2018 16:13 Parrek wrote:On May 05 2018 15:56 Ej_ wrote:On May 05 2018 15:56 chipmonklord17 wrote:On May 05 2018 15:55 Durnuu wrote:On May 05 2018 15:53 chipmonklord17 wrote:
still not sure if mech is hilariously broken or Bunny is a much better player than I give him credit for it's zanster dude lol And its Bunny. We're not talking about some great master of the terran race Bunny would trash every foreign zerg Man I haven't heard Korean bias that strong since HotS. Bunny is a mid tier Korean. We are long past the era where someone at that level could trash every foreigner. Heck, Bunny couldn't trash the majority of a WCS Ro16. Looking at Leipzig bracket, the only people I would say he would dumpster are Bly, Nice, Masa, and Lambo. You clearly have no idea about Bunny's TvZ level. Still a bit disingenuous to say he'd trash every foreign zerg when I watched him lose to Elazer doing basic ravager attacks earlier this week.
Like I said, his TvZ has fallen off recently (for the last 2-ish months), but it has always been his best match-up and it shows in his results before the last two months. FFS, he didn't win against Zanster because mech is OP
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On May 05 2018 16:25 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 16:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On May 05 2018 16:14 Durnuu wrote:On May 05 2018 16:13 Parrek wrote:On May 05 2018 15:56 Ej_ wrote:On May 05 2018 15:56 chipmonklord17 wrote:On May 05 2018 15:55 Durnuu wrote:On May 05 2018 15:53 chipmonklord17 wrote:
still not sure if mech is hilariously broken or Bunny is a much better player than I give him credit for it's zanster dude lol And its Bunny. We're not talking about some great master of the terran race Bunny would trash every foreign zerg Man I haven't heard Korean bias that strong since HotS. Bunny is a mid tier Korean. We are long past the era where someone at that level could trash every foreigner. Heck, Bunny couldn't trash the majority of a WCS Ro16. Looking at Leipzig bracket, the only people I would say he would dumpster are Bly, Nice, Masa, and Lambo. You clearly have no idea about Bunny's TvZ level. Still a bit disingenuous to say he'd trash every foreign zerg when I watched him lose to Elazer doing basic ravager attacks earlier this week. Like I said, his TvZ has fallen off recently (for the last 2-ish months), but it has always been his best match-up and it shows in his results before the last two months. FFS, he didn't win against Zanster because mech is OP
Well no, he won against Zanster, because Zanster's viper control sucks.
edit: Well this game is going the distance.
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Bunny should make a few orbitals with all his minerals
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Bunny could nuke the mid-map shield battery stations.
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Dear tries so hard not to get a Protoss nerf
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On May 05 2018 16:36 DieuCure wrote:Dear tries so hard not to get a Protoss nerf
I mean we already know anti-armor missiles are busted, so all that tempest clumping micro he seems to be doing is just gratuitous.
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Bunny's control is awful lol
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I don't know what Bunny was doing in that fight, because he was neither macro-ing nor micro-ing
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Lots of mistakes from both players are making for a hilarious game.
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These guys played a very entertaining game
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On May 05 2018 16:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 16:36 DieuCure wrote:Dear tries so hard not to get a Protoss nerf I mean we already know anti-armor missiles are busted, so all that tempest clumping micro he seems to be doing is just gratuitous.
He also likes to walk under sieged libes, maybe he likes the mood below them.
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It's funny when I'm reminded that Dear's a former GSL Champion. You wouldn't have thought that was the case when you see him make the kind of mistakes he does.
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Dear is about to throw again.
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On May 05 2018 16:44 ByuuN wrote:
Dear is about to throw again.
This should probably be pinned to any tournament LR where Dear is playing.
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On May 05 2018 16:43 Kommander wrote:
It's funny when I'm reminded that Dear's a former GSL Champion. You wouldn't have thought that was the case when you see him make the kind of mistakes he does.
TOP is a GSL finalist
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On May 05 2018 16:21 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 16:16 Charoisaur wrote:On May 05 2018 16:13 Parrek wrote:On May 05 2018 15:56 Ej_ wrote:On May 05 2018 15:56 chipmonklord17 wrote:On May 05 2018 15:55 Durnuu wrote:On May 05 2018 15:53 chipmonklord17 wrote:
still not sure if mech is hilariously broken or Bunny is a much better player than I give him credit for it's zanster dude lol And its Bunny. We're not talking about some great master of the terran race Bunny would trash every foreign zerg Man I haven't heard Korean bias that strong since HotS. Bunny is a mid tier Korean. We are long past the era where someone at that level could trash every foreigner. Heck, Bunny couldn't trash the majority of a WCS Ro16. Looking at Leipzig bracket, the only people I would say he would dumpster are Bly, Nice, Masa, and Lambo. Bunny 4-0ed Serral in an online tournament earlier this year.. Guess who's the biased one here That was last year.
You're right...
29th December rofl.
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im wondering, why terran still going for mine drops. i think its rarely finding enough damage.
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Bunny
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that's the look of a dead man
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On May 05 2018 16:54 StabiloBoss20 wrote:
im wondering, why terran still going for mine drops. i think its rarely finding enough damage.
Dear's pretty bad against mines. Maru destroyed him with mine drops.
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On May 05 2018 16:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 16:54 StabiloBoss20 wrote:
im wondering, why terran still going for mine drops. i think its rarely finding enough damage. Dear's pretty bad against mines. Maru destroyed him with mine drops.
i dont think this should be the blueprint. maru is maru. and maru always does with runbys or sth else. its always the comb which does the damage. an isolated mine drop gives you bad odds i feel.
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Damn, was hoping Zanster would be able to advance...his first series vs. Maru pretty much convinced me he could.
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On May 05 2018 16:46 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 16:21 D-light wrote:On May 05 2018 16:16 Charoisaur wrote:On May 05 2018 16:13 Parrek wrote:On May 05 2018 15:56 Ej_ wrote:On May 05 2018 15:56 chipmonklord17 wrote:On May 05 2018 15:55 Durnuu wrote:On May 05 2018 15:53 chipmonklord17 wrote:
still not sure if mech is hilariously broken or Bunny is a much better player than I give him credit for it's zanster dude lol And its Bunny. We're not talking about some great master of the terran race Bunny would trash every foreign zerg Man I haven't heard Korean bias that strong since HotS. Bunny is a mid tier Korean. We are long past the era where someone at that level could trash every foreigner. Heck, Bunny couldn't trash the majority of a WCS Ro16. Looking at Leipzig bracket, the only people I would say he would dumpster are Bly, Nice, Masa, and Lambo. Bunny 4-0ed Serral in an online tournament earlier this year.. Guess who's the biased one here That was last year. You're right... 29th December rofl.
http://aligulac.com/players/1517/results/?after=&before=&event=&race=z&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=
His only really high level TvZ win since that win vs Serral was a 3-2 over soO in late March. The best foreign win was vs Lambo and now Zanster. This is literally nothing impressive. Also, Scarlett 3-1 Serral in February, but you're not acting like she can dumpster literally every foreign Zerg for it.
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On May 05 2018 17:23 Parrek wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 16:46 Charoisaur wrote:On May 05 2018 16:21 D-light wrote:On May 05 2018 16:16 Charoisaur wrote:On May 05 2018 16:13 Parrek wrote:On May 05 2018 15:56 Ej_ wrote:On May 05 2018 15:56 chipmonklord17 wrote:On May 05 2018 15:55 Durnuu wrote:On May 05 2018 15:53 chipmonklord17 wrote:
still not sure if mech is hilariously broken or Bunny is a much better player than I give him credit for it's zanster dude lol And its Bunny. We're not talking about some great master of the terran race Bunny would trash every foreign zerg Man I haven't heard Korean bias that strong since HotS. Bunny is a mid tier Korean. We are long past the era where someone at that level could trash every foreigner. Heck, Bunny couldn't trash the majority of a WCS Ro16. Looking at Leipzig bracket, the only people I would say he would dumpster are Bly, Nice, Masa, and Lambo. Bunny 4-0ed Serral in an online tournament earlier this year.. Guess who's the biased one here That was last year. You're right... 29th December rofl. http://aligulac.com/players/1517/results/?after=&before=&event=&race=z&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=His only really high level TvZ win since that win vs Serral was a 3-2 over soO in late March. The best foreign win was vs Lambo and now Zanster. This is literally nothing impressive. Also, Scarlett 3-1 Serral in February, but you're not acting like she can dumpster literally every foreign Zerg for it.
What's your point. Since monthe he lose only to good korean zerg or top foreigner. It was just Zanster here. Nothing to be shocked.
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On May 05 2018 16:54 StabiloBoss20 wrote:
im wondering, why terran still going for mine drops. i think its rarely finding enough damage.
Dear is historically not good against mines.
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Jin Air players are 16-3 with every single player getting out of their group in first so far. If Cure can get out of his group of death, the value of having a team cannot be denied.
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this was a fun group, gg
weird both zanster and bunny didn't make it out tho
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juicyjames
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On May 06 2018 00:13 juicyjames wrote:
Any recommended matches?
Both Maru Zanster games are watchable.
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On May 05 2018 23:55 Boggyb wrote:
Jin Air players are 16-3 with every single player getting out of their group in first so far. If Cure can get out of his group of death, the value of having a team cannot be denied.
No chance Cure gets out of his group unless he's suddenly good again. Creator didn't manage to qualify either.
It's hard say that the team is what's responsible for Jin Air's recent success either. sOs, Maru, Rogue, and Trap have always been solid players. I'd honestly say that except for Rogue, they're all performing equal or worse to what they were in the past when everyone had teams.
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On May 06 2018 00:13 juicyjames wrote:
Any recommended matches?
The first map of Maru vs Zanster was decent, and Dear vs Bunny on Neon Violet was good.
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On May 06 2018 00:57 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 23:55 Boggyb wrote:
Jin Air players are 16-3 with every single player getting out of their group in first so far. If Cure can get out of his group of death, the value of having a team cannot be denied. No chance Cure gets out of his group unless he's suddenly good again. Creator didn't manage to qualify either. It's hard say that the team is what's responsible for Jin Air's recent success either. sOs, Maru, Rogue, and Trap have always been solid players. I'd honestly say that except for Rogue, they're all performing equal or worse to what they were in the past when everyone had teams.
Then we can talk about other players falling because of the lack of teams. Either way it appears that having a team is good(what a shocking reveal, i know )
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lol, just rewatching the 2nd game of Dear vs. Bunny, game of throws, so many mistakes and clumping by both sides(THOSE RAVENS!!!)
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On May 06 2018 06:04 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2018 00:57 Fango wrote:On May 05 2018 23:55 Boggyb wrote:
Jin Air players are 16-3 with every single player getting out of their group in first so far. If Cure can get out of his group of death, the value of having a team cannot be denied. No chance Cure gets out of his group unless he's suddenly good again. Creator didn't manage to qualify either. It's hard say that the team is what's responsible for Jin Air's recent success either. sOs, Maru, Rogue, and Trap have always been solid players. I'd honestly say that except for Rogue, they're all performing equal or worse to what they were in the past when everyone had teams. Then we can talk about other players falling because of the lack of teams. Either way it appears that having a team is good(what a shocking reveal, i know )
I'm talking about performance relative to the playing field. Jin Air's players haven't improved that much since the other teams disbanded. Cure got worse. Rogue improved. Creator, Maru, sOs, and Trap remained at pretty much the same level. Some players have drastically improved since leaving their teams as well. So there isn't enough evidence to prove having a team is that important for results.
Although personally I do believe a having a team would help.
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Cure didnt get worse lol, he was playing OW at the time and then bad bracket luck in GSL S1 2018 qualifier
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On May 06 2018 07:26 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2018 06:04 deacon.frost wrote:On May 06 2018 00:57 Fango wrote:On May 05 2018 23:55 Boggyb wrote:
Jin Air players are 16-3 with every single player getting out of their group in first so far. If Cure can get out of his group of death, the value of having a team cannot be denied. No chance Cure gets out of his group unless he's suddenly good again. Creator didn't manage to qualify either. It's hard say that the team is what's responsible for Jin Air's recent success either. sOs, Maru, Rogue, and Trap have always been solid players. I'd honestly say that except for Rogue, they're all performing equal or worse to what they were in the past when everyone had teams. Then we can talk about other players falling because of the lack of teams. Either way it appears that having a team is good(what a shocking reveal, i know ) I'm talking about performance relative to the playing field. Jin Air's players haven't improved that much since the other teams disbanded. Cure got worse. Rogue improved. Creator, Maru, sOs, and Trap remained at pretty much the same level. Some players have drastically improved since leaving their teams as well. So there isn't enough evidence to prove having a team is that important for results. Although personally I do believe a having a team would help.
I guess we'll see how things play out, but honestly I think Trap has gotten better. When I watch him lately, I consistently think he's a player on the uptick. Also, Maru had a lot of windows of greatness in the past, but I think he's gotten better again. When he won last season, he was really looking like the best version of himself, having shored up a lot of his traditional weaknesses.
I have no idea how much the team membership is responsible for these things, but I would guess it helps. I guess Cure has his excuses, and I have no idea what the story is with Creator, but I really feel for him.
And as a side note, if I'd been Stats in the last GSL finals and seen Maru's teammates all in the booth with him in between games while I was on my own, I think that would have been pretty demoralizing. Though Stats is of course a pretty level-headed player.
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On May 05 2018 17:50 Mun_Su wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2018 17:23 Parrek wrote:On May 05 2018 16:46 Charoisaur wrote:On May 05 2018 16:21 D-light wrote:On May 05 2018 16:16 Charoisaur wrote:On May 05 2018 16:13 Parrek wrote:On May 05 2018 15:56 Ej_ wrote:On May 05 2018 15:56 chipmonklord17 wrote:On May 05 2018 15:55 Durnuu wrote:On May 05 2018 15:53 chipmonklord17 wrote:
still not sure if mech is hilariously broken or Bunny is a much better player than I give him credit for it's zanster dude lol And its Bunny. We're not talking about some great master of the terran race Bunny would trash every foreign zerg Man I haven't heard Korean bias that strong since HotS. Bunny is a mid tier Korean. We are long past the era where someone at that level could trash every foreigner. Heck, Bunny couldn't trash the majority of a WCS Ro16. Looking at Leipzig bracket, the only people I would say he would dumpster are Bly, Nice, Masa, and Lambo. Bunny 4-0ed Serral in an online tournament earlier this year.. Guess who's the biased one here That was last year. You're right... 29th December rofl. http://aligulac.com/players/1517/results/?after=&before=&event=&race=z&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=His only really high level TvZ win since that win vs Serral was a 3-2 over soO in late March. The best foreign win was vs Lambo and now Zanster. This is literally nothing impressive. Also, Scarlett 3-1 Serral in February, but you're not acting like she can dumpster literally every foreign Zerg for it. What's your point. Since monthe he lose only to good korean zerg or top foreigner. It was just Zanster here. Nothing to be shocked.
Read the rest of the chain. I was responding to a guy who said Bunny would dumpster literally every foreign zerg. Probably a troll, but I like looking at statistics and arguing so it didn't matter much
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On May 06 2018 07:47 DieuCure wrote:
Cure didnt get worse lol, he was playing OW at the time and then bad bracket luck in GSL S1 2018 qualifier
Being in a group with Billowy and Losira isn't bad bracket luck.
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