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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
The thing is that Rogue outclassed him so much Arty cursed Rogue with him winning the GSL. Edit> I give him the 2 last games where he turtled into superior position(doesn't help Byul doing some wierd de cisions in the 3rd game). That was really a perfect play, but the 3 PvZs before it was bad. Fine, underestimated Byul in the 1st game, but got smashed twice by Rogue? Yeah, no. | ||
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Elentos
55566 Posts
On May 02 2018 22:20 deacon.frost wrote: I would go with Classic over Stats ATM. Stats obviously was strong since he got into GSL finals, but at the moment he doesn't look like the best PvZ player out there. Classic has notoriously weak PvZ compared to his other match-ups. This year his bank account is missing a few 100k because of that. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On May 02 2018 22:20 deacon.frost wrote: I would go with Classic over Stats ATM. Stats obviously was strong since he got into GSL finals, but at the moment he doesn't look like the best PvZ player out there. Classic is better vT and maybe vP. But his vZ is a massive weak point. He said himself he loses to Zerg every time. In fact almost all of classic's recent loses are to Dark, Serral, or rogue. | ||
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leublix
493 Posts
Neeb definitely has good PvZ, too bad he didn't try for GSL this season (or did he lose to Hurricane again?). Stats showed again and again why he is the best PvZ player in longer series. A sloppy bo3 or two won't change that. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On May 02 2018 22:24 deacon.frost wrote: The thing is that Rogue outclassed him so much Arty cursed Rogue with him winning the GSL. Rogue also 4-0'd classic though?  | ||
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DBooN
Germany2727 Posts
On May 02 2018 22:24 deacon.frost wrote: The thing is that Rogue outclassed him so much Arty cursed Rogue with him winning the GSL. Maybe Rogue would have started tilting at 3-1 had it been a BO7  | ||
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Boggyb
2855 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
I don't remember it being such difference like this. If Stats is trully the best than PvZ is in even worse position than I think... (and I still don't think Stats is the best to offer) | ||
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Elentos
55566 Posts
On May 02 2018 22:25 leublix wrote: Neeb definitely has good PvZ, too bad he didn't try for GSL this season (or did he lose to Hurricane again?). He wasn't in Korea for the qualifiers I'm pretty sure. | ||
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Elentos
55566 Posts
On May 02 2018 22:27 deacon.frost wrote: I don't remember it being such difference like this. If Stats is trully the best than PvZ is in even worse position than I think... (and I still don't think Stats is the best to offer) Because it's impossible that Stats had a bad day right? | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On May 02 2018 22:29 Elentos wrote: Because it's impossible that Stats had a bad day right? AND THAT'S WHY I WROTE THERE ATM. Edit> And I still believe that the best having a bad day shouldn't look this easy Edit2 > FFS are you guys reading waht I'm writing or just jumping at me because I touched your PvZ god who has fallen? And Edit3> I'm out, I wrote my things and I don't have the time nor the will to do some e-penis measuring contest | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On May 02 2018 22:19 juicyjames wrote: Was any of this recommended? I personally enjoyed Byul vs. Rogue, it was a great ZvZ series, one of the better ones you can get in this matchup. The rest of the games were moreorless meh, anything with eMotion was, sadly, an outright stomp. | ||
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Penev
28512 Posts
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Lexender
Mexico2656 Posts
On May 02 2018 22:27 Boggyb wrote: Classic's losses to Zerg happened when the PvZ match up was extremely Zerg favored, so I'm not sure how much I'd read into that. Then again Classic does well whenever balance favors protoss so it cancels out. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On May 02 2018 23:34 Lexender wrote: Then again Classic does well whenever balance favors protoss so it cancels out. It would be pretty fucking awkward if one of the best Protoss players in the world didn't do well when Protoss was strong, wouldn't it? | ||
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Obamarauder
697 Posts
On May 03 2018 00:30 Ej_ wrote: It would be pretty fucking awkward if one of the best Protoss players in the world didn't do well when was Protoss was strong, wouldn't it? Well maru only does well when his race struggles. usually its innovation that takes the show | ||
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Elentos
55566 Posts
On May 03 2018 00:31 Obamarauder wrote: Well maru only does well when his race struggles. usually its innovation that takes the show He won OSL and SSL when Terran was doing perfectly fine, which mind you were his only tournament wins until this year. No big ups or downs for long periods of time just, very consistent independent of the meta, especially in HotS. He doesn't "only do well when his race has a hard time", he doesn't fall off as hard as the other Terrans do. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On May 03 2018 01:21 Elentos wrote: He won OSL and SSL when Terran was doing perfectly fine, which mind you were his only tournament wins until this year. No big ups or downs for long periods of time just, very consistent independent of the meta, especially in HotS. He doesn't "only do well when his race has a hard time", he doesn't fall off as hard as the other Terrans do. Maru doesn't only do well when terran is bad. But he sure has a habit of being the best whenever terran is worst. Late 2013-14 and early 2018 being the biggest examples. Either he plays better when terran sucks or he's just more independent of balance. | ||
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Topin
Peru10104 Posts
 those two could have advance but fell short | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
Sad to see ByuL go out. He looked like a Ro16 player, just makes you even more pissed that Patience advance from that fuckfest. | ||
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