Really hard to call, looking at the tvp/pvt results of both of them since the beginning of the year, the general form and adding my maru bias to the mix i have to go with the little terran though. OSL, SSL and soon GSL champion
Nuuu, I just finished unpacking my PS4 and inserted THe Last of Us. If I turn it on again(got a pause because of hunger) I am afraid I will miss this. What am I supposed to do now?!
On March 31 2018 04:25 deacon.frost wrote: Nuuu, I just finished unpacking my PS4 and inserted THe Last of Us. If I turn it on again(got a pause because of hunger) I am afraid I will miss this. What am I supposed to do now?!
GO MARU!!!
Edit> SC20 stream it is
you have 10 hours before GSL lol, play all you want unitl that
Anyone know what venue in Seoul this will take place? I'm traveling in the city and would very much like to attend in person. Any help would be appreciated.
On March 31 2018 14:42 obsilord wrote: Anyone know what venue in Seoul this will take place? I'm traveling in the city and would very much like to attend in person. Any help would be appreciated.
On March 31 2018 14:42 obsilord wrote: Anyone know what venue in Seoul this will take place? I'm traveling in the city and would very much like to attend in person. Any help would be appreciated.
I'd be shocked if Stats cheeses again after his build went that well and he still couldn't get the win, big advantage for Maru as he should be able to breathe easy in the early game.
On March 31 2018 17:40 woody60707 wrote: Early GG??? I mean it was 11 workers to 23. He did good Econ damage, why couldn't he just back off and try to go in to a longer game?
On March 31 2018 17:37 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Wait he GG'd while up 12 workers?
mules
you mean being 1 base to 2 base
Maru could have 10 bases, if he doesn't have the workers to saturate them, it doesn't matter. So yes, I mean mules, because they help replenish the workers he lost (although he wasn't down too many anyway)
On March 31 2018 17:37 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Wait he GG'd while up 12 workers?
mules
you mean being 1 base to 2 base
Maru could have 10 bases, if he doesn't have the workers to saturate them, it doesn't matter. So yes, I mean mules, because they help replenish the workers he lost (although he wasn't down too many anyway)
having workers but no bases isn't better than having bases but no workers.
Maru could've gotten so much more if he'd realized that the obs wasn't out. Stats did an okay job of positioning his units to convince Maru that it was out though.
On March 31 2018 18:20 Pandemona wrote: Im a maru fan but when u see whole of Jin Air coming over to support Maru and Stats has no one its a bit sad haha
On March 31 2018 18:20 Pandemona wrote: Im a maru fan but when u see whole of Jin Air coming over to support Maru and Stats has no one its a bit sad haha
On March 31 2018 18:34 Mnijykmirl wrote: I hate having to mute the stream because of garbage casters that just tell me what I can already see with faked excitement.
I feel when Stats first tagged Maru's army outside his natural was his best chance to shade in. When liberators came in, it was over for his gateway heavy unit comp.
GG from Maru, proxy 2rax into mindgame was what got him the huge lead.
On March 31 2018 18:38 leublix wrote: Stats should just cheese 3 games in a row, nothing he can do against those pushes with raven support unless he is already ahead from the early game.
How about starting out by not being considerably behind? Those pushes are perfectly holdable from equality.
On March 31 2018 18:37 yht9657 wrote: AAM doesn't win Maru that game, the early mindgame did. He just smashed Stats with tech advantage.
Would have crushed the first push without AAM. Met him out in the open, tanks unsieged, 1 second after +1 finished. That was the best possible engagement he could have gotten. (after that it'd have been somewhat even I guess)
Gotta say, I am really enjoying the cast right now. Valdes and Rapid are doing a great job. They know it's important and aren't meming to hard (looking at you Rapid), but are still having a lot of fun while bringing the hype this series deserves.
They just seem to have great chemistry. I don't think there are bigger shoes to fill than Tastosis casting the GSL final, but they are pulling it off.
On March 31 2018 18:45 Musicus wrote: Gotta say, I am really enjoying the cast right now. Valdes and Rapid are doing a great job. They know it's important and aren't meming to hard (looking at you Rapid), but are still having a lot of fun while brining the hype this series deserves.
They just seem to have great chemistry. I don't think there are bigger shoes to fill than Tastosis casting the GSL final, but they are pulling it off.
Agreed. I'm usually a Rapid hater but he's doing an ok job today. Kudos to him.
I'm not sure that was the same build as on Catalyst actually. It's similar, but this one got marauders faster I think. Either way I doubt Maru will try another similar build this series.
On March 31 2018 18:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote: I'm not sure that was the same build as on Catalyst actually. It's similar, but this one got marauders faster I think. Either way I doubt Maru will try another similar build this series.
The marauders might have just been a reaction to Stats' build (quick blink and not stargate)
On March 31 2018 18:55 Solar424 wrote: I don't know if Stats is doing a great job defending or if this build is just bad.
Yeah I don't understand it all. Stats took a third at it was still not even close in the fight.
Does seem like forcefields and some army will crush it if he sees it coming. Stats probably cut some probe production to be ready and especially with blink it looked easy.
The fast ghost academy is strong for Maru. It isn't looking good for Stats, but I don't think he's quite as far behind as he was on Abyssal or the other maps. So maybe there's a chance?
On March 31 2018 19:07 ZigguratOfUr wrote: The fast ghost academy is strong for Maru. It isn't looking good for Stats, but I don't think he's quite as far behind as he was on Abyssal or the other maps. So maybe there's a chance?
On March 31 2018 19:07 ZigguratOfUr wrote: The fast ghost academy is strong for Maru. It isn't looking good for Stats, but I don't think he's quite as far behind as he was on Abyssal or the other maps. So maybe there's a chance?
He's a full round of upgrades behind
Storm doesn't care (though ofc since Maru EMPed everything it's a moot point).
Not the best of games, but happy to see Maru win Let's hope that Maru's keeps his flow through the whole year. His aggressive style is great entertainment
Call me crazy but I actually really liked that final. Maru had awesome preparation and I loved watching how his plan unfolded game after game. Unfortunately, there weren't really any epic games but from a player's perspective, it's always nice to see some really strong strategic play.
On March 31 2018 19:18 blooblooblahblah wrote: Call me crazy but I actually really liked that final. Maru had awesome preparation and I loved watching how his plan unfolded game after game. Unfortunately, there weren't really any epic games but from a player's perspective, it's always nice to see some really strong strategic play.
It's not crazy. Lack of preparation and being predictable were Maru's downfall in individual leagues. Glad to see he matured. PVT is a MU where early game advantage really snowballs, so it paid off big time. I really liked him using his reputation of proxy 2rax to mind game Stats in G4. Also 5 rax mass marines is indeed strong pressure build and it is not easy to hold. So it's understandable he tried to mix it in twice. It just so happened that Stats had the correct defense setup in G2 and build order counter in G5.
People are upset about the engagement looking one-sided. But pretty much every game was already one-sided before the final engagement happened (except G1 & 2). G3 and G6 though were indeed low quality games. Overall, slightly below average finals but not abysmal.
Maru is on a level of control that is unmatched right now. The instant his banshees are under attack, he cloaks immediately to save them. That money EMP in game 6 was another example of his stellar control. Maru's elite control is also how he beat sOs in the two recent series against him. Remember when Rotti reviewed the one battle Maru had against sOs at IEM when Maru was down supply and about to lose and how Maru had to pull off that battle perfectly to win? Rotti explains how Maru had to be perfect here: .
As for today, in that last engagement in game 6, Stats clumped 3 High Templars together against Maru. I mean, I don't know if it's because Stats is lazy or what, but you don't clump 3 High Templars together when ghost is out for Terran. Do other top Protoss pros clump 3 HTs together? That is just lazy, unrefined play.
On March 31 2018 20:11 gingerfluffmuff wrote: Shout out to Rapid, who sticks around and watches most sc content live in the studio. This guy must have made the most cheerfulls by now.
Yes I was surprised to see how on point he was calling out the builds. He called out the doudle robo proxy and the 5 rax in games 1 and 2. Well played to Valdes and Rapid.
Cool series overall. Maru has grown a lot recently (huehue)
On March 31 2018 19:34 xelnaga_empire wrote: As for today, in that last engagement in game 6, Stats clumped 3 High Templars together against Maru. I mean, I don't know if it's because Stats is lazy or what, but you don't clump 3 High Templars together when ghost is out for Terran. Do other top Protoss pros clump 3 HTs together? That is just lazy, unrefined play.
He was moving across the map at that point. Nobody splits them up while you move and then there wasn't enough time (not a fast unit). Well and/or he didn't know that ghosts were on the field.
On April 01 2018 13:19 juicyjames wrote: Was this recommended?
I think the first 3 games or so had some entertainment value. The series taken as a whole, though, felt pretty one-sided, despite Stats' two wins. When he lost, he looked completely outclassed. Like, comprehensively dominated.
On April 01 2018 13:19 juicyjames wrote: Was this recommended?
I've been seeing a lot of hate towards the series, but rest assured that anyone who says that this was a bad series is a noob and has absolutely no idea what they are talking about.
Games were excellent and very entertaining. Casting was top notch too.
On April 01 2018 13:19 juicyjames wrote: Was this recommended?
I've been seeing a lot of hate towards the series, but rest assured that anyone who says that this was a bad series is a noob and has absolutely no idea what they are talking about.
Games were excellent and very entertaining. Casting was top notch too.
No, the games themselves weren't good with the exception of maybe game 2. Putting people down because they don't like the things you do gets you nowhere.
On April 01 2018 13:19 juicyjames wrote: Was this recommended?
I've been seeing a lot of hate towards the series, but rest assured that anyone who says that this was a bad series is a noob and has absolutely no idea what they are talking about.
Games were excellent and very entertaining. Casting was top notch too.
No, the games themselves weren't good with the exception of maybe game 2. Putting people down because they don't like the things you do gets you nowhere.
Please explain why "the games themselves weren't good."
On April 01 2018 13:19 juicyjames wrote: Was this recommended?
I've been seeing a lot of hate towards the series, but rest assured that anyone who says that this was a bad series is a noob and has absolutely no idea what they are talking about.
Games were excellent and very entertaining. Casting was top notch too.
No, the games themselves weren't good with the exception of maybe game 2. Putting people down because they don't like the things you do gets you nowhere.
Please explain why "the games themselves weren't good."
Does that even need explaining? By and large they were extremely one-sided with Maru pushing Stats (who made a lot of mistakes) around in the early game, and easily converting those leads into wins.
On April 01 2018 13:19 juicyjames wrote: Was this recommended?
I've been seeing a lot of hate towards the series, but rest assured that anyone who says that this was a bad series is a noob and has absolutely no idea what they are talking about.
Games were excellent and very entertaining. Casting was top notch too.
No, the games themselves weren't good with the exception of maybe game 2. Putting people down because they don't like the things you do gets you nowhere.
Please explain why "the games themselves weren't good."
Does that even need explaining? By and large they were extremely one-sided with Maru pushing Stats (who made a lot of mistakes) around in the early game, and easily converting those leads into wins.
Yeah I don't really have anything to add, the games were just one-sided. Maru either got an early game lead (on Ascension with the proxy, on Abyssal with the mindgame making Stats think he proxied, and on Blackpink with cloaked banshee + tank vs an all-in with no detection) and won with the first mid-game push, or didn't (Catalyst/Odyssey with the 5rax no starport) and lost. Either way was pretty one sided and not very exciting/entertaining. G1 is the only exception to what I said. Stats cheesed, didn't micro well, lost. From a strategic standpoint, the series was entertaining, I'll grant you that.
On April 01 2018 13:19 juicyjames wrote: Was this recommended?
I've been seeing a lot of hate towards the series, but rest assured that anyone who says that this was a bad series is a noob and has absolutely no idea what they are talking about.
Games were excellent and very entertaining. Casting was top notch too.
No, the games themselves weren't good with the exception of maybe game 2. Putting people down because they don't like the things you do gets you nowhere.
Please explain why "the games themselves weren't good."
Does that even need explaining? By and large they were extremely one-sided with Maru pushing Stats (who made a lot of mistakes) around in the early game, and easily converting those leads into wins.
From a strategic standpoint, the series was entertaining, I'll grant you that.
As far as I'm concerned, that's enough to recommend watching it. I absolutely loved how prepared Maru came and the way he controlled the series. Admittedly, the games weren't that exciting but if you enjoy a very well planned series I'd say go and watch it.
On April 01 2018 13:19 juicyjames wrote: Was this recommended?
I've been seeing a lot of hate towards the series, but rest assured that anyone who says that this was a bad series is a noob and has absolutely no idea what they are talking about.
Games were excellent and very entertaining. Casting was top notch too.
No, the games themselves weren't good with the exception of maybe game 2. Putting people down because they don't like the things you do gets you nowhere.
Please explain why "the games themselves weren't good."
Does that even need explaining? By and large they were extremely one-sided with Maru pushing Stats (who made a lot of mistakes) around in the early game, and easily converting those leads into wins.
From a strategic standpoint, the series was entertaining, I'll grant you that.
As far as I'm concerned, that's enough to recommend watching it. I absolutely loved how prepared Maru came and the way he controlled the series. Admittedly, the games weren't that exciting but if you enjoy a very well planned series I'd say go and watch it.
Yes, the mindgames Maru pulled off (or tried to) were really fun and the casters were able to highlight them.