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[IEM XII] Katowice World Championship - Ro8 + Ro12 - Page 3

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mCon.Hephaistas
Profile Joined May 2014
Netherlands891 Posts
March 03 2018 11:06 GMT
#41
Do these kind of allins actually ever work?
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
March 03 2018 11:07 GMT
#42
Trap
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 03 2018 11:07 GMT
#43
On March 03 2018 20:06 sneakyfox wrote:
But Dark transitions, so it wasn't all in

designated baneling pressure, while down 13 workers
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
March 03 2018 11:09 GMT
#44
ouch, losing 2 oracles and the phenix
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 03 2018 11:11 GMT
#45
This match is not only for ro8, but for the unofficial world championship too
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-03 11:11:59
March 03 2018 11:11 GMT
#46
On March 03 2018 20:06 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:
Do these kind of allins actually ever work?


Quite often actually. Very hard to scout. Trap got a bit lucky with Dark's queen not denying the probe scout on the natural drone count, otherwise he'd have died.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
ShAd_1337
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany1042 Posts
March 03 2018 11:11 GMT
#47
you hate to see that
I like Dark
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15979 Posts
March 03 2018 11:11 GMT
#48
On March 03 2018 20:06 sneakyfox wrote:
But Dark transitions, so it wasn't all in

lmao
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
March 03 2018 11:11 GMT
#49
Woll done Trop.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
March 03 2018 11:12 GMT
#50
On March 03 2018 20:07 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2018 20:06 sneakyfox wrote:
But Dark transitions, so it wasn't all in

designated baneling pressure, while down 13 workers


Dark needed to kill more with it to make room for the transition. Trap even lost two oracles and a phoenix but the push was still too strong.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 03 2018 11:12 GMT
#51
On March 03 2018 20:12 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2018 20:07 Ej_ wrote:
On March 03 2018 20:06 sneakyfox wrote:
But Dark transitions, so it wasn't all in

designated baneling pressure, while down 13 workers


Dark needed to kill more with it to make room for the transition. Trap even lost two oracles and a phoenix but the push was still too strong.

yeah because it was an all-in
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-03 11:13:46
March 03 2018 11:13 GMT
#52
On March 03 2018 20:12 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2018 20:12 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 03 2018 20:07 Ej_ wrote:
On March 03 2018 20:06 sneakyfox wrote:
But Dark transitions, so it wasn't all in

designated baneling pressure, while down 13 workers


Dark needed to kill more with it to make room for the transition. Trap even lost two oracles and a phoenix but the push was still too strong.

yeah because it was an all-in


I never understand why people don't realize that all-ins can transition if they do a certain amount of damage. You all-in on doing that damage, not winning the game.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15979 Posts
March 03 2018 11:14 GMT
#53
On March 03 2018 20:13 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2018 20:12 Ej_ wrote:
On March 03 2018 20:12 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 03 2018 20:07 Ej_ wrote:
On March 03 2018 20:06 sneakyfox wrote:
But Dark transitions, so it wasn't all in

designated baneling pressure, while down 13 workers


Dark needed to kill more with it to make room for the transition. Trap even lost two oracles and a phoenix but the push was still too strong.

yeah because it was an all-in


I never understand why people don't realize that all-ins can transition if they do a certain amount of damage. You all-in on doing that damage, not winning the game.

who doesn't understand that?
Still means it's all-in
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
March 03 2018 11:16 GMT
#54
On March 03 2018 20:13 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2018 20:12 Ej_ wrote:
On March 03 2018 20:12 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 03 2018 20:07 Ej_ wrote:
On March 03 2018 20:06 sneakyfox wrote:
But Dark transitions, so it wasn't all in

designated baneling pressure, while down 13 workers


Dark needed to kill more with it to make room for the transition. Trap even lost two oracles and a phoenix but the push was still too strong.

yeah because it was an all-in


I never understand why people don't realize that all-ins can transition if they do a certain amount of damage. You all-in on doing that damage, not winning the game.


Really there's two types of all in then. Sometimes it's enough to do damage, sometimes it really is ALL in because you need to kill the other guy right there, or you lose
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15979 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-03 11:17:46
March 03 2018 11:17 GMT
#55
On March 03 2018 20:16 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2018 20:13 Olli wrote:
On March 03 2018 20:12 Ej_ wrote:
On March 03 2018 20:12 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 03 2018 20:07 Ej_ wrote:
On March 03 2018 20:06 sneakyfox wrote:
But Dark transitions, so it wasn't all in

designated baneling pressure, while down 13 workers


Dark needed to kill more with it to make room for the transition. Trap even lost two oracles and a phoenix but the push was still too strong.

yeah because it was an all-in


I never understand why people don't realize that all-ins can transition if they do a certain amount of damage. You all-in on doing that damage, not winning the game.


Really there's two types of all in then. Sometimes it's enough to do damage, sometimes it really is ALL in because you need to kill the other guy right there, or you lose

there is no allin that needs to kill the other guy.
If you kill all workers but your army gets cleaned up you're always ahead despite your "allin" got dfended.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
March 03 2018 11:18 GMT
#56
On March 03 2018 20:17 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2018 20:16 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 03 2018 20:13 Olli wrote:
On March 03 2018 20:12 Ej_ wrote:
On March 03 2018 20:12 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 03 2018 20:07 Ej_ wrote:
On March 03 2018 20:06 sneakyfox wrote:
But Dark transitions, so it wasn't all in

designated baneling pressure, while down 13 workers


Dark needed to kill more with it to make room for the transition. Trap even lost two oracles and a phoenix but the push was still too strong.

yeah because it was an all-in


I never understand why people don't realize that all-ins can transition if they do a certain amount of damage. You all-in on doing that damage, not winning the game.


Really there's two types of all in then. Sometimes it's enough to do damage, sometimes it really is ALL in because you need to kill the other guy right there, or you lose

there is no allin that needs to kill the other guy.
If you kill all workers but your army gets cleaned up you're always ahead despite your "allin" got dfended.

I guess you could make an argument for roach/ravager builds against terran with mules.
djraphi23
Profile Joined August 2013
France2262 Posts
March 03 2018 11:20 GMT
#57
Trap is way too defensive. Now Dark is in his confort zone.
Polt | Bomber | MMA | Taeja | Maru | TY | Byun | Innovation
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15979 Posts
March 03 2018 11:20 GMT
#58
On March 03 2018 20:18 DBooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2018 20:17 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 03 2018 20:16 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 03 2018 20:13 Olli wrote:
On March 03 2018 20:12 Ej_ wrote:
On March 03 2018 20:12 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 03 2018 20:07 Ej_ wrote:
On March 03 2018 20:06 sneakyfox wrote:
But Dark transitions, so it wasn't all in

designated baneling pressure, while down 13 workers


Dark needed to kill more with it to make room for the transition. Trap even lost two oracles and a phoenix but the push was still too strong.

yeah because it was an all-in


I never understand why people don't realize that all-ins can transition if they do a certain amount of damage. You all-in on doing that damage, not winning the game.


Really there's two types of all in then. Sometimes it's enough to do damage, sometimes it really is ALL in because you need to kill the other guy right there, or you lose

there is no allin that needs to kill the other guy.
If you kill all workers but your army gets cleaned up you're always ahead despite your "allin" got dfended.

I guess you could make an argument for roach/ravager builds against terran with mules.

nah you just need to kill the Orbitals
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
March 03 2018 11:21 GMT
#59
On March 03 2018 20:17 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2018 20:16 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 03 2018 20:13 Olli wrote:
On March 03 2018 20:12 Ej_ wrote:
On March 03 2018 20:12 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 03 2018 20:07 Ej_ wrote:
On March 03 2018 20:06 sneakyfox wrote:
But Dark transitions, so it wasn't all in

designated baneling pressure, while down 13 workers


Dark needed to kill more with it to make room for the transition. Trap even lost two oracles and a phoenix but the push was still too strong.

yeah because it was an all-in


I never understand why people don't realize that all-ins can transition if they do a certain amount of damage. You all-in on doing that damage, not winning the game.


Really there's two types of all in then. Sometimes it's enough to do damage, sometimes it really is ALL in because you need to kill the other guy right there, or you lose

there is no allin that needs to kill the other guy.
If you kill all workers but your army gets cleaned up you're always ahead despite your "allin" got dfended.


What about in between certain strong tech switches? I would say thar sometimes the required amount of damage for the all in to work equals a win.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
redloser
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1729 Posts
March 03 2018 11:22 GMT
#60
is this bo3?
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