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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
March 03 2018 22:59 GMT
#2261
On March 04 2018 07:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Wait this shit starts even earlier tomorrow? Goddamn it, think of the NA fans

So considerate of Neeb and Scarlett, going out early so that we can get a full night's sleep.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 03 2018 23:00 GMT
#2262
On March 04 2018 07:58 juicyjames wrote:
Any recommended matches?

Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2656 Posts
March 03 2018 23:00 GMT
#2263
On March 04 2018 07:57 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 07:55 Lexender wrote:
On March 04 2018 07:51 Penev wrote:
On March 04 2018 07:50 Lexender wrote:
I hope they dont nerf the armor reduction in the AA missile when the whine makes Blizz nerf them, that is actually interesting and makes you have a few Ravens as support.

If anything they should nerf the damage.

they should make it dodgeable


No.

Thats the worst, old seeker never connected unless it was a slow as shit unit or there was so many seekers it didnt really mattered.

Single missile should do realiable damage and be balanced around that.


The old seeker was good at zoning out and in big fight, you had to spread+ micro the targeted units, so no, it was an interesting spell.
The cancer ones were the old auto turrets and the pdd.


Wich meant nobody used them unless they went mass ravens, nobody made a few Ravens just to "zone out".

Meanwhile we see people getting 1 or 2 ravens with their Bio as support, something that has never happened in the meta before.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-03 23:01:41
March 03 2018 23:01 GMT
#2264
On March 04 2018 07:59 Solar424 wrote:
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On March 04 2018 07:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Wait this shit starts even earlier tomorrow? Goddamn it, think of the NA fans

So considerate of Neeb and Scarlett, going out early so that we can get a full night's sleep.

No way I'm watching this whole thing. Best tournament in years, even if some of my favorites got knocked out a bit early.
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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
March 03 2018 23:02 GMT
#2265
Man this tournament has been excellent. Is Lotv usually like this?
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
March 03 2018 23:02 GMT
#2266
On March 04 2018 07:57 Lexender wrote:
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On March 04 2018 07:54 MarianoSC2 wrote:
And I still don't get the Raven whine... We have 1 terran in GSL ro8 and 1 in WC Ro4, and it is the same terran, the 1 and only terran. Zergs are clearly still doing better, its just now the Terrans actually have something to counter the ridiculously OP Zerg late game army. And that is only good for the game!


I like terran having a lategame but mass ravens have been cancerous anytime they were the meta.


Agreed they were, I just don't feel that way right now. The new AA ability is very interesting and I think the war of positioning and quick fingers between them and Vipers is very nice to watch.
The Raven ghost combo seems to be a little bit OP, but Zergs have tons of units to counter that they just have to adapt, same as Terrans had to when ultras or vipers started to get OP
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FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-03 23:07:04
March 03 2018 23:06 GMT
#2267
On March 04 2018 08:01 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 07:59 Solar424 wrote:
On March 04 2018 07:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Wait this shit starts even earlier tomorrow? Goddamn it, think of the NA fans

So considerate of Neeb and Scarlett, going out early so that we can get a full night's sleep.

No way I'm watching this whole thing. Best tournament in years, even if some of my favorites got knocked out a bit early.

I agree! It's definitely been a great tournament. It is without a doubt the best premier tournament I've seen in all of March.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-03 23:07:46
March 03 2018 23:06 GMT
#2268
On March 04 2018 08:00 Musicus wrote:
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On March 04 2018 07:58 juicyjames wrote:
Any recommended matches?

https://twitter.com/RotterdaM08/status/970068906399248384

Not sure I'd consider sOs - Maru and Classic - Dear a must watch. Impact - Dear was so so, Maru vs Solar was good and the 2 Trap series were absolutely insane.
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YourFavoriteTerran
Profile Joined November 2017
33 Posts
March 03 2018 23:08 GMT
#2269
I'm finding it downright alarming how good a Terran has to play to beat a Protoss or more specifically a Zerg. You shouldn't need to play for 25 minutes each time you are ahead. When other races are ahead the game is over in 10 minutes. I think a patch needs to be released sometime soon. 1/8 of the worlds finalists was a Terran and he's on another level mechanically twice as good as his opponents.

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ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
March 03 2018 23:09 GMT
#2270
Funny hearing all the zergs bitching about turtle mech yet terrans had to deal with YEARS of turtle zerg play. Deal with it
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yangluphil
Profile Joined July 2015
318 Posts
March 03 2018 23:10 GMT
#2271
When a fan favourite player plays cancerous build, it is all ok. Maru is smart that he only starts doing this when he's the only terran left so other terrans cannot use it to their success in this season. Pretty sure he has the build practiced over and over in the team house. I would think rogue knows how to counter it in the late game. If not, this build can kill the game. Not my 'great day of starcraft'.
Neither party will be missed.
Lyyna
Profile Joined June 2011
France776 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-03 23:13:00
March 03 2018 23:10 GMT
#2272
When terran complained about parasitic bomb or fungal, they were (are) told to learn to spread, attack earlier, try other comps, etc.

Same thing for zerg now. And unlike the above spells, you need to spend 2k+ gas before you can actually do decent damage with the missiles. And they are the only decent option for T. So less whining, more trying to learn to play versus something new. Or as they loved saying after the hydra / viper changes when every terran would die to random hydra + whatever bust, "it's too recent, play more to get used to the new patch §§§" "you need to figure the new things out" "bwahahah terrans whining whenever they can't stim to the win".
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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-03 23:11:38
March 03 2018 23:10 GMT
#2273
On March 04 2018 07:58 juicyjames wrote:
Any recommended matches?


I got here for Hurricane vs. Rogue, which was one-sided and pretty average.

Sos versus Maru was very entertaining, so long as you enjoy cheese.

Trap vs. Serral was amazing.

Dear vs. Classic was good, but I thought game three was hilarious.

Ty versus Rogue was excellent, and Maru vs. Solar was even better.
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sirax067
Profile Joined February 2018
11 Posts
March 03 2018 23:10 GMT
#2274
so Jin Air >>> Splyce ???
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
March 03 2018 23:10 GMT
#2275
On March 04 2018 08:08 YourFavoriteTerran wrote:
I'm finding it downright alarming how good a Terran has to play to beat a Protoss or more specifically a Zerg. You shouldn't need to play for 25 minutes each time you are ahead. When other races are ahead the game is over in 10 minutes. I think a patch needs to be released sometime soon. 1/8 of the worlds finalists was a Terran and he's on another level mechanically twice as good as his opponents.

Maru is NOT twice as good as his opponents mechanically and you clearly haven't watched much PvZ if you think Terran is the only race that struggles with putting away Zerg in a macro game.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 03 2018 23:12 GMT
#2276
The only series I'd say isn't worth watching was Rogue v Hurricane because they were so one sided and didn't have much in the way of strategic diversity lol.

Some of the other series weren't amazing but they were at least interesting or entertaining
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sirax067
Profile Joined February 2018
11 Posts
March 03 2018 23:15 GMT
#2277
On March 04 2018 08:08 YourFavoriteTerran wrote:
I'm finding it downright alarming how good a Terran has to play to beat a Protoss or more specifically a Zerg. You shouldn't need to play for 25 minutes each time you are ahead. When other races are ahead the game is over in 10 minutes. I think a patch needs to be released sometime soon. 1/8 of the worlds finalists was a Terran and he's on another level mechanically twice as good as his opponents.


Yea. Maru was getting sooooo much ahead of Solar in game 4 with his banshees killing so many hatcheries and drones/queens/creep/spores and even then it was still a really close game that he could have lost instantly. Solar wasn't doing all that much damage to Maru and he still had to wait until he had like 15 ravens in order to actually get a real advantage.

If this new Raven gets nerfed, then Zerg will have to have something nerfed as well to compensate imo.
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
March 03 2018 23:19 GMT
#2278
Lets go Serral vs Maru Finals
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showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
March 03 2018 23:20 GMT
#2279
On March 04 2018 08:19 ReachTheSky wrote:
Lets go Serral vs Maru Finals


Classic will win then balance the trophy on his mighty chin
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 03 2018 23:31 GMT
#2280
the orange debuff is weird
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