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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
November 24 2017 16:44 GMT
#21
WP Demuslim
Kashim
Profile Joined December 2013
Poland1218 Posts
November 24 2017 16:47 GMT
#22
Lambo
SC2 LP Staff, Aligulac Editor, Tournament Organiser and Admin @KashimSC2
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 24 2017 17:09 GMT
#23
Wow, what happened Lambo .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
djraphi23
Profile Joined August 2013
France2262 Posts
November 24 2017 17:12 GMT
#24
Clem is really not playing well. 0-8 deserved.
Polt | Bomber | MMA | Taeja | Maru | TY | Byun | Innovation
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
November 24 2017 17:15 GMT
#25
On November 25 2017 02:12 djraphi23 wrote:
Clem is really not playing well. 0-8 deserved.


The casters kept mentioning how young he was, so I took a look at Liquipedia. Holy cow, he does looks very young in his profile picture.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Clem
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
November 24 2017 17:18 GMT
#26
On November 25 2017 02:15 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2017 02:12 djraphi23 wrote:
Clem is really not playing well. 0-8 deserved.


The casters kept mentioning how young he was, so I took a look at Liquipedia. Holy cow, he does looks very young in his profile picture.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Clem


Holy crap, that is young.
Gurbak
Profile Joined January 2017
France622 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-24 17:30:02
November 24 2017 17:29 GMT
#27
wtf how demu 2-0ed lambo ?
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 24 2017 17:34 GMT
#28
On November 25 2017 02:29 Gurbak wrote:
wtf how demu 2-0ed lambo ?

no idea, but I guess Lambo just didn't play on his usual level

Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
November 24 2017 17:39 GMT
#29
Really sad about Lambo's result, he was looking way more prepared in his streams.

Hopefully he can take this as a learning experience/motivation and do better next time. Fighting!
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 24 2017 17:43 GMT
#30
They need to double the pay of casters then penalize them every time they misuse the word "cheeky".
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4041 Posts
November 24 2017 17:47 GMT
#31
something was really wrong about that attack. Did a single protoss unit die there?
Drone is a way of living
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 24 2017 17:50 GMT
#32
the year of Showtime is upon us
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
November 24 2017 17:51 GMT
#33
On November 25 2017 02:43 Boggyb wrote:
They need to double the pay of casters then penalize them every time they misuse the word "cheeky".


They still need to get paid... I can't see them leaving without debt under these rules ^^

----

One thing I've really genuinely hated about the design of Zerg is that it feels like so many strategic victories (eg: very late scouted nydus) can be negated by just good control. Zerg has so few ways to leverage this compared to Terran and Protoss. Mutalisks used to do this somewhat in HotS, but it's always been a major weak point. Inevitably, at levels where players don't have this control, Zerg is too strong. And when they do, Zerg feels very vulnerable to plays that just hinge on only mechanics, even when the information game has played out in their favour.

That said, ShowTime played that series very well. Overall some good games today.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-24 18:01:30
November 24 2017 17:57 GMT
#34
Apparently the Ro12 is:
A2/B3 Minato - Rail
A3/B2 Namshar - Bly
C2/D3 Serral
C3/D2 NightEnD
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-24 18:03:07
November 24 2017 18:02 GMT
#35
On November 25 2017 02:51 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2017 02:43 Boggyb wrote:
They need to double the pay of casters then penalize them every time they misuse the word "cheeky".


They still need to get paid... I can't see them leaving without debt under these rules ^^

----

One thing I've really genuinely hated about the design of Zerg is that it feels like so many strategic victories (eg: very late scouted nydus) can be negated by just good control. Zerg has so few ways to leverage this compared to Terran and Protoss. Mutalisks used to do this somewhat in HotS, but it's always been a major weak point. Inevitably, at levels where players don't have this control, Zerg is too strong. And when they do, Zerg feels very vulnerable to plays that just hinge on only mechanics, even when the information game has played out in their favour.

That said, ShowTime played that series very well. Overall some good games today.


I think the trick is to force these players to make control mistakes. Certain players that I don't want to name were famous for always having lings at their opponent's base so that their opponents never could only focus on one attack, and they won incredibly consistently.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 24 2017 18:21 GMT
#36
Majestic was doing really well there that game till he lost that warp prism...
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 24 2017 18:22 GMT
#37
On November 25 2017 03:21 Boggyb wrote:
Majestic was doing really well there that game till he lost that warp prism...

He also lost all his stalkers at the same time. He had 4 army supply when he left.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
November 24 2017 18:24 GMT
#38
Nerchio and Elazer didn't drop a single map. POLISH ZERG BEST ZERG

Also I thought that part of window was on my pc and I tried to close it. Then I realized it's part of the stream. Triggered.
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 24 2017 18:26 GMT
#39
On November 25 2017 03:22 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2017 03:21 Boggyb wrote:
Majestic was doing really well there that game till he lost that warp prism...

He also lost all his stalkers at the same time. He had 4 army supply when he left.

I mainly meant he could have pulled back and transitioned to a macro game and been ahead. Obviously Nerchio is a stronger player and probably wins regardless which was probably why Majestic was still trying to be aggressive.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 24 2017 18:35 GMT
#40
Majestic is not great with his warp prisms...
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